LOS finally hit me... and hit HARD! - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I was at the Brewer's game last night, and the loss of service was horrible. I literally rebooted 18 (I counted) times during the game, that was just to get my missed text messages.
Scary thing is that I had nearly full bars showing for the cellular signal, but the 3G was terrible. Every time the 3G dropped too low, it took both the 3G and cellular service with it, and it never came back. At one point, I rebooted 5 times in a row, and still had no service (no data, and texting/calling would not work), even though I was showing nearly full reception.
I couldn't keep the radios working long enough to even successfully use Roam control. By the time I was able to switch to roaming (on Cellular One, apparently), the radios were already crashed, and I still had no service (even though I still had no indication).
About halfway through the game, I finally started getting the triangle notification "You have lost data services be...." Toggling roaming policies and roam guards did nothing to make this go away... Whether I was in forced roam or on Sprint.
I assume that there was a lot of network congestion at a playoff game, but clearly this phone does not handle network congestion well. I never had this problem with the Samsung Moment, and it saddens me to think that that piece of crap does ANYTHING better than the ET!
I wonder if the low data signal somehow creates a cascade of events that tells the phone to shut down the radios?

I never experienced LOS until yesterday and it's hit me 5 times now since. I reverted back to stock kernel for the time being, but I'm afraid it'll happen again since it's even a stock problem (from what I've heard.)

There is a kernel in the dev section to fix LOS. Take a look at lostkernel.
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Damn, y'all got me scared to get this phone.

Khilbron said:
There is a kernel in the dev section to fix LOS. Take a look at lostkernel.
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Seems like some are getting in on Jmthat one as well.
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Dalmus said:
I was at the Brewer's game last night, and the loss of service was horrible. I literally rebooted 18 (I counted) times during the game, that was just to get my missed text messages.
Scary thing is that I had nearly full bars showing for the cellular signal, but the 3G was terrible. Every time the 3G dropped too low, it took both the 3G and cellular service with it, and it never came back. At one point, I rebooted 5 times in a row, and still had no service (no data, and texting/calling would not work), even though I was showing nearly full reception.
I couldn't keep the radios working long enough to even successfully use Roam control. By the time I was able to switch to roaming (on Cellular One, apparently), the radios were already crashed, and I still had no service (even though I still had no indication).
About halfway through the game, I finally started getting the triangle notification "You have lost data services be...." Toggling roaming policies and roam guards did nothing to make this go away... Whether I was in forced roam or on Sprint.
I assume that there was a lot of network congestion at a playoff game, but clearly this phone does not handle network congestion well. I never had this problem with the Samsung Moment, and it saddens me to think that that piece of crap does ANYTHING better than the ET!
I wonder if the low data signal somehow creates a cascade of events that tells the phone to shut down the radios?
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What kernel are you on?
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musclehead84 said:
What kernel are you on?
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I'm running the stock with root (flashed CWM, then flashed the root .zip).
I forgot to mention that after the game in the parking lot (about 4 blocks from the stadium) a reboot set my phone working perfectly fine again, so I'm thinking its a combination of something Sprint's network tells our phone, and then something in Samsung's kernel goes "Duh...."

Brewers suck. Go Cards!
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lancelane said:
Brewers suck. Go Cards!
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(It was a great game Let's hope we keep it going at home tomorrow!! Go Cards!!)
That stinks about the phone though :-( I hope it's something that gets resolved, sorry you had to mess with it during the game.

Roam Control periodically does a license check when you start it. If you don't have data, and it decides to check the license, you are SOL.
As for rebooting, it was necessary to reboot because that's the only time I got text messages. We had two sets of two seats, and texting was the only way to communicate with people 3 second away.
Perhaps you should spend some time with kindergartners and take some etiquette lessons. Although they might be too advanced in that area for you to learn much.

nabbed said:
Perhaps you should try to stop texting to people who are 39 seconds away.
And Roam Control required internet? Really?
What version of this ridiculously hypocritical app do you use?
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It does do checks every so often... Cum on men, give the guy a break.

nabbed said:
Perhaps you should try to stop texting to people who are 39 seconds away.
And Roam Control required internet? Really?
What version of this ridiculously hypocritical app do you use?
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Great. Let's see you try to set up meeting places, or exit strategies with people you can't communicate with. Or are you the rude type that would barge into the middle of somebody else's section?
As for Roam Control, it just updated from the market, so its the latest version. Try reading the description.
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BethyM said:
(It was a great game Let's hope we keep it going at home tomorrow!! Go Cards!!)
That stinks about the phone though :-( I hope it's something that gets resolved, sorry you had to mess with it during the game.
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I preferred Sunday's game myself.
Despite how it sounds, I spent more time watching the game (such as it was!) than messing with the phone. Reboots and clicking resend on a text doesn't really take that long, thankfully!
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Sprint's 3G in Milwaukee is not working at all. Sprint offered to let me out of contract free because of the 3G being out since June and still not fixed.
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I live in Milwaukee as well and I can vouch for how terrible the 3g is here. I only use about 1 gig a month in data on a light month and about 2 gigs a month on a heavy month. I even tried using my slingplayer as much as I could keeping it on for a few hours at a time for a whole month and I barely used 3 gigs!! When Verizon gets a nice phone with LTE I'm ditching sprint for a network that actually works here. And I don't care about the caps because I don't even use that much to begin with. And if Sprint ends up getting LTE in Milwaukee by 2013 maybe I'll come back...but since sprint has no wimax here...and they won't fix the 3G, I'm guessing Milwaukee will be the very last city to get LTE.....

worldwidepmp said:
Damn, y'all got me scared to get this phone.
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Don't root yet.....problem solved.

Dalmus said:
I preferred Sunday's game myself.
Despite how it sounds, I spent more time watching the game (such as it was!) than messing with the phone. Reboots and clicking resend on a text doesn't really take that long, thankfully!
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I didn't get to see Sunday's because we had plans. Excited for tonight's game. Always enjoy a good play off, even better when my home team is in. Of course, the tension keeps it amusing.... hmmm... kinda like XDA.
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nabbed said:
Why are you crying?
Do a motherfathering data reset. Stop being a victim. And stop posting here.
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First off, I've done multiple data resets since I activated the phone last month, and 3G data has not improved one bit.
Second, according to other posts, I obviously am not the only one with a data problem in my city, so posting here helped me with some evidence to go to Sprint and get credit or out of my contract, doesn't it?

Err0rist said:
Sprint's 3G in Milwaukee is not working at all. Sprint offered to let me out of contract free because of the 3G being out since June and still not fixed.
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The ONLY place I get decent 3G speeds is by the airport. Just did a speed test, and I got 1.3mbs down... Everywhere else in the city, I average somewhere around .15, which is basically 1xRTT speeds.
How did you go about getting the offer to let you out of the contract? Did you have to call multiple times? Honestly, I'm hoping that this phantom update that's supposedly coming this month actually fixes something, but with Samsung/Sprint, I'm not holding my breath.
I go back to my experience with the Moment. Sprint put out several updated, but never managed to fix the data lock problem (which also cut out voice service, which is eerily similar to what's happening here). It took the devs over at SDX to fix the problem by porting Froyo over from the Acclaim (or maybe it was the Intercept... I forget).
Bonus information: By the airport there is a 4G tower that's active. I can pull 3mbs at work, and if I go about 6 blocks north, I can pull 11mbs.

jaygraffix said:
I live in Milwaukee as well and I can vouch for how terrible the 3g is here. I only use about 1 gig a month in data on a light month and about 2 gigs a month on a heavy month. I even tried using my slingplayer as much as I could keeping it on for a few hours at a time for a whole month and I barely used 3 gigs!! When Verizon gets a nice phone with LTE I'm ditching sprint for a network that actually works here. And I don't care about the caps because I don't even use that much to begin with. And if Sprint ends up getting LTE in Milwaukee by 2013 maybe I'll come back...but since sprint has no wimax here...and they won't fix the 3G, I'm guessing Milwaukee will be the very last city to get LTE.....
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Yeah, that's my worry. Sprint doesn't seem to have any logical progression of cities they implement 4G in. Milwaukee is a Top 20 city (by population), so you'd think they'd be in the first wave. But no, they'd rather put 4G in Milledgville, GA, population 19,000 before a city with 500,000.

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Slow 3G?

I'm going f'n mad. How can my 3G be so slow with over half my bars lit up...
Accessing websites is slow, downloading is slow. I don't get it. I can barely break 30 KB/s. I'm ready to throw this POS in the trash, it's a waste of money paying for data and premium data at that when it's slower than snot.
Anyone experiencing the same? In OKC.
Yep, phone is a POS.....
Have you tried updating your PRL / PRI?
How about you give some details?
PRI?
PRL?
Hboot?
ROM?
Kernel?
Signal strength (in -dB)?
Do you get the same results on another ROM?
Do you get the same results in another area?
How much data have you used this billing period?
Same issue with me. Called Sprint tonight andsaid I was going to leave for t-mobile. Said I would sell evo for 300 on ebay to pay for cancellation. They covered next months bill (150) and an airave. I am now using the roaming hack (prl 31005) and if they kick me off then I will go to T-Mobile.
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Mine is going bad lately
crisbv said:
Mine is going bad lately
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That's exactly how mine looks, it's completely ridiculous...
Bielinsk said:
Yep, phone is a POS.....
Have you tried updating your PRL / PRI?
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Yea, I've updated everything... and tried a multitude of different ROMs...
Pri:1.90_003
Prl:60674
Hboot:
Kernel:2.6.32.17-gee557fd
[email protected] #15
ROM: I think Sprint lovers
Hardware: 0003
Baseband: 2:15.00.11.19
Build: 3.70.651.1 CLUB294884 release-keys
I just rooted using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
I used the first method presented, and now I am having this exact same problem! Never did before.
???????
r u runnin any ad free software or is it cooked in your rom, if it is download the ad free app from the market and just click revert, ( then uninstall if you like I did) then reboot, this puts your host file back to normal and internet will be fast again (if this is the prob)
click thank you if i helped!!!!!!!!!
fldash said:
I'm going f'n mad. How can my 3G be so slow with over half my bars lit up...
Accessing websites is slow, downloading is slow. I don't get it. I can barely break 30 KB/s. I'm ready to throw this POS in the trash, it's a waste of money paying for data and premium data at that when it's slower than snot.
Anyone experiencing the same? In OKC.
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Call them. It's the network. I'm days into it with an executive. Basically been field testing and reporting areas that suck. Contact sprint otherwise they'd never know
I haven't experienced any problems here. Love my rooted Evo!
At my home I get pathetic 3g speeds, maybe 100 kbps or so, but for whatever reason the 4g is stronger than anywhere else in the country I've been. Consistenly 8-9 Mbps. Is that common, an almost non-existent 3g connection but an awesome 4g connection? Needless to say I'm on 4g all the time at home.
I need help!! I have flashed myns Fls5 and the 4g connects but doesn't load web pages . It gets stuck all the time . I've downloaded adfree and have the updated radios. 3g works great . I've tried to search for this but no help so far thanks
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Try opera mini it works faster on myns
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Might be a long shot but do the 3G connection fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10781368#post10781368
Also I had this issue in NYC where it slowed to a crawl on 3G to the point where it wouldn't even load google.com
I flashed another ROM and everything was good but one thing I did notice was when I did a speed test using Speedtest it said the closest server was in the UK for all the tests I ran that day. I was pretty baffled by that.
So unless Sprint is routing all of their connections to the UK, they are just lagging. Try another ROM and if its the same deal and you have everything updated, call and flip out.
Do the 3g connection fix a couple posts up/back.
Check what rom you have. If you have a rom with adfree in it, then install it and uninstall the application from the market. Then reboot.
I'm actually getting better speeds now that I moved to a different rom. Weird, eh?
Myn's was giving me trouble with that because of adfree.
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Call them. It's the network. I'm days into it with an executive. Basically been field testing and reporting areas that suck. Contact sprint otherwise they'd never know
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I've been having this problem for months now, while my friends evo doesnt have this problem, and none of the evos at the sprint store do. But mine does, along with many people here. Ive had the phone replaced 6 times, so obviously its not a hardware problem.
I have spent MANY MANY hours on the phone with sprint, and the executives have basically told me, unless 100 people or more have the same problem in the area, they wont send anyone out to check the network. Since apparantly I'm the only one in my area with this problem, they refuse to send anyone out.
Have you tried the profile reset, and changing the settings so you are no going through their proxy server
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frontay said:
Have you tried the profile reset, and changing the settings so you are no going through their proxy server
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Yes, everything. I have done everything the techs on the phone and in the store can do. I have gotten 3 refurb evo's and 3 new ones, all have the same problem. When I roam on verizon (using the verizon prl) even with 1 bar of verizon service I get 10 times as fast as I do with 6 bars on sprint.
sekigah84 said:
Might be a long shot but do the 3G connection fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10781368#post10781368
Also I had this issue in NYC where it slowed to a crawl on 3G to the point where it wouldn't even load google.com
I flashed another ROM and everything was good but one thing I did notice was when I did a speed test using Speedtest it said the closest server was in the UK for all the tests I ran that day. I was pretty baffled by that.
So unless Sprint is routing all of their connections to the UK, they are just lagging. Try another ROM and if its the same deal and you have everything updated, call and flip out.
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it does this to me all the time on 4G on any sense rom, and the CM6-7+4G roms. There are days it tells me I am in the UK.

Sprint service quality, is this normal?

I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
I have noticed, I live in New York, a significant service downgrade in the past three months. My unfounded theory is that it has something to do with the Iphone launch, because service was great about 6 months ago. I had very few problems.
I've noticed the same thing here in Oak Park, CA (just a bit NW of LA), starting about a couple of months ago, on both my Photon and my Epic Touch. Sprint's 3G service has become terribly inconsistent and generally bad.
Its all over thats why im switching to verizon. The worst thing is the reps act like nothings wrong
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They keep saying the iphone isn't having any problems. I wonder if they are degrading android to male iphone look better. We are switching to Verizon when the contract is up.
Sprint might be doing work in your area. See map here: https://network.sprint.com/
pbiancardi said:
I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
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Same here, data sucks balls big time but voice so far has had no issues.
Its the dat part that is killing it. Yet we have to pay that extra 10 bucks a month just because its a smart phone aka data usage. What a joke.
Or maybe that extra 10 bucks is to pay for data usage for Carrier IQ... LOL
It's not really because of the iPhone, although that plays a small part in it. Sprint has just been lazy overall in maintaining and upgrading their network while the majority of customers have switched to smart phones
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Honestly, I think its just work being done on the network. I noticed the same thing, but 3 days ago I did a prl n profile update (I had done this several times before) n started getting much better service, including 4g. I'm not saying g this is the case for everyone. If you do jump ship, have fun with Verizon. I dealt with them for years before sprint. And if you think sprints customer service is bad. . . Also their data prices are INSANE! but, Verizon does have a better network. TO ME, being able to stream my music collection without worrying about data is more important than being able to watch a movie on 3g, but thats why we get choices if sprint was right for everyone, Verizon wouldn't be in business, and its the same the other way around
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When I go within 100ft of the tower I use in my home in Toledo I get full signal strength and peek speeds of 100 kbps, sprint really needs to get on that. Then again in Cleveland I get 1mbit+.
Sprints network is really unstable right now so its probably not the best time to sign a contract with them if you use a lot of data.
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....the IPhone effect maybe? My 4g has been better lately.
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Just keeping checking the website that was posted before. We are making a lot of updates and changes to make the network better. I have seen better improvement myself and know more are coming. The next two years are going to have a better and faster network. Remember that the USA is huge so it does take time. The other thing to do is preach to everyone to use wifi whenever they can so that there are less phones on the network until the project is completed in 2013!
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I have noticed these slow speeds, buy within the last week, it has improved. I was driving down the highway and was hitting 1600kbs on 3G!!
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Yup lots of variables.
each site can handle only so many people. Older sites have overall capacity issues. Thats to say some sites can handle x amount of users, and x amount of data. Some sites get user upgrades to handle more users but not data, causing a super slow down.
Then theres the issue of interference. Add in any issues your device might be having due to flashing a custom rom, kernel or modem and it all adds up to way to many possibilities.
The good news is, you verified your modem is good, not only did you get slow data speeds one test, but later it was good.
I have a similar experience with my Stock Epic Touch.
Some locations in Dallas, TX have horrible data speeds, while others are hit and miss.
One of the worse i am aware of is the are of i635 / hwy 80. Ever weekend i meet my dad for lunch at a BBQ place in that area. I test every weekend and the speeds are SOO SLOW. But once i leave the area im back to 1meg or so..
Overall i am still happy. I am just patient i guess.
yap service absolutely sucks, that's why I have started using the ROAM method and hopefully within a couple of months sprint will let me leave at no cost.
I think the implementation of "Network Vision" is going to cause things to get worse before they get better in many areas.
I live in NW Indiana as well and this is how it normally is
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i live in orange county NY the army bases in los all. I get 1-2 MB down on 3g and 4g on most of the area ranging from 4.5-11mb down. Its really spotty in some areas though. I can honestly sit in the my bed sometimes and get like 100kb down
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California
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pbiancardi said:
I live in NW Indiana (just outside of Chicago) and last night my service was so slow I could not even stream Spotify (with 3-bars on the 3g meter), when I tested with speedtest app I was getting +,- 100 kbps, is that what I can expect from my new carrier?
My phone is rooted with Blazer rom and shows baseband EG31 and Kernel EG30, is that ok or could I have messed up the modem? I tested at 4:40am this morning and got over 1 mbps....
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I was up in Michigan City last month for 4 days (Mother in Law and Wife's Grandma live there) and was in and around Hammond and Valpo as well. I got much better speeds than that with my EG4T. The 3G in MC was actually superior to the 3G down here in DFW, although they don't seem to have 4G...
I was running Caulkin's 1.0 at the time, and it was pretty nice up there.

[Q]Data Speed Woes.

Just got mine on today from the retail store the guy activated a new Sim card for me and my data speed is terribly slow it doesn't even seem like it's 3g . Any ideas why its so slow?
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what phone did you have before and how much did you use your data....could be tmobile throtteling
I'm only getting about 5-6Mbps which I would get on my MT4G... but it's the service in this area, not the phone's fault
HOWEVER
I am getting such bad upload speeds it's puzzling.. giving the phone time to adjust, I'll test again tomorrow because for some reason anytime I change phones the data connection seems to act weird the first day..
The phone in my store which is in a 42mbps area gets 15mbps with every test I did.
I'm getting 8 - 12 Mbps avg.
Just did a test right now and got 10,390 kbps using a 1MB file.
Seems pretty much the same as my HD2.
Remember that HSPA+ speeds are theoretical, the chances of you reaching those speeds are slim.
ok so after two t mobile calls and numerous network resets im getting absolutely ****ty speed test results. the browsing is ok but seems to be really laggy. hmm..
also noticed under settings/aboutphone/signal/MobileNetworkType i get UMTS and it will switch to HSPA randomly. could this be the reason? or should it say HSPA+? can someone verify this?
You won't get 4G speeds everywhere.
im aware of this..
i had a sgs4g which i lost 2 weeks ago and it was nothing like this.
it feels like my connection is capped at 56k
It could be the network, there could just be a lot of congestion. It happens to me sometimes too, one day I'll get 12mbps & the next I won't be able to get over 5. Try your sim in another phone if you can & see if you get the same results.
i used to get anywhere from 5mbps to 15mbps with the sgs4g.
im ashamed to say that i am getting half a mbps. lol
Speeds suck near Phoenix 2.4mbps
i talked to t mobile couple days ago, the technical support had to issue a ticket in order for it to get resolved. the lady said that my Internet should be back to speed in 3 days! Its not phone related its definitely a network glitch of some sort because i am getting 60 kbits. My very first bill cycle is days shy from being over and yet i have not been able to use 4g speeds.. even edge speeds is faster than what i am getting. I believe i shouldn't be held responsible to pay the web data portion of my bill for this month. its only fair.
Try this (if you haven't already).
Pull up your dialer, then dial
*#*#4636#*#*
Select "phone information"
Scroll to the bottom and select
Either "WCDMA Preferred" or "WCDMA Only".
This can be changed from the network settings also. However, I had ****ty data speeds at first too and, for some strange reason, the two menus did not match up... Using the dialer method it was on GSM and inexplicably went back to GSM on its own a couple times.
Hate to say... But if tmo says they are filing a ticket, most of the time the rep just exhausted what their knowledge or troubleshooting is telling them to do and a ticket doesn't change anything.
The GS2 should unquestionably whip the MT4G, HD2, SENSATION as well as most other phones in data speeds, consistently. I can say this from personal experience.
Interested to know how it turns out for you.
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data speeds are eye popping!
This phone is great! I'm getting a whopping 60kbps/30kbps. We really standing still now! Tmo tech say everything is fine on there end so back to the store I go.
Sounds like your throttled, or your stuck in gsm/edge mode. Check to see also if your on gsm/wcdma, thts what it should be on. You could be on 2g/gsm setting. I put mines on tht setting from time to time.
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i feel your pain, t-mobile can be very spotty in some places. I dont think its my phone!!
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LpSk8r said:
Sounds like your throttled, or your stuck in gsm/edge mode. Check to see also if your on gsm/wcdma, thts what it should be on. You could be on 2g/gsm setting. I put mines on tht setting from time to time.
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I thought the same thing but tmo said I'm not throttled. gsm/wcdma(auto) is checked.
Thank for the advice though.
Edit: I put the Sim back in my vibrant and the speeds are the same. So I'm going with bad Sim or they are throttling me and don't know it. To be continued.
So they put in a work order and said they will get back to me within 72hrs. If it's not fixed I'm going to sprint. Tried the Sim in the amaze and sgs2 in store same speeds. Funny thing one of the questions asked while filling out the work order "do you tether?" Lol. Of course not.
I'm getting as high as 13mbps and almpst 2 upload speed. My g2x got half of that at best most of the time...
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[Q] anybody else get " the letter"

i just got my letter (about my unlocked phone/ wifi tethering ). the same day i got my new S3,
the phone is nice but cleveland has no LTE...and won't until mid 2013
i've been with sprint 10 years so if they terminate F U C K ' E M
i'll get the Galaxy note 2 (cheap ) / wit a new contract.:highfive:
How much data did you use while tethering?
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I had that letter numerous time with my Epic. I used roam control and strictly roamed for 3 months straight. Nothing ever came off it though. No Sprint data, 10gb a month of roaming data.
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It would be nice if their network was at least useable enough that you don't have to force roaming just to check your email or load a damn Facebook page.
BWFBezerk said:
I had that letter numerous time with my Epic. I used roam control and strictly roamed for 3 months straight. Nothing ever came off it though. No Sprint data, 10gb a month of roaming data.
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that's a lot. maybe if people had consideration and didn't abuse tethering it would be included in the plans.. obliviously downloading 10gb of data while roaming seems blatantly excessive. surprised they didn't pull the plug, perhaps it takes a bit for the system to raise a flag. the fees must be costing them more than you're worth having as a customer, as harsh as that may sound..
I'd rather use roam control and get 3g Verizon speed, instead of 1 bar of Sprint 3g. So if they upped their network then I wouldn't have to. I'm not complaining though, just giving op my situation.
I wasn't tethering though. Just lots of high quality Spotify. I don't think they'd even know the difference.
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I got the phone call from sprint about 5 months ago, after only one month of high roaming data (was using samsung epic 4g touch at the time). I wasn't force roaming. I was just doing my usual work, home, kids stuff routine. That's how bad the sprint signals are in pockets of where I live. So for one month I used 6g of data roaming, which is my monthly average. Pandora, email and facebook.
In fact, my house, which is about 6 blocks from LTE coverage is a dead zone with roaming only (even with an air rave).
I reverted the modem back a couple versions the next month and problem was solved, of course with much slower data.
What I don't really understand is how sprint can know that the 2 mile stretch of area I live and work in is a deadzone and still give me crap for it. Basically, the rep said turn roaming off and have no service, or terminate. I like sprint, I've got 6 lines. It's the only carrier i can afford. I never call to complain, specifically because of that. I am happy with what I get.
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i live in Michigan and have no 4G service. I pay $10/mo for "premium data" services. IDK about you but 3G speeds so slow that you dont even wanna use data is hardly "premium". i only use about 1.5GB/month. I am sure as soon as 4G LTE becomes available for me (end of year or early next year) i will get the same letter/call from them.
dgn_sandibalz said:
I got the phone call from sprint about 5 months ago, after only one month of high roaming data (was using samsung epic 4g touch at the time). I wasn't force roaming. I was just doing my usual work, home, kids stuff routine. That's how bad the sprint signals are in pockets of where I live. So for one month I used 6g of data roaming, which is my monthly average. Pandora, email and facebook.
In fact, my house, which is about 6 blocks from LTE coverage is a dead zone with roaming only (even with an air rave).
I reverted the modem back a couple versions the next month and problem was solved, of course with much slower data.
What I don't really understand is how sprint can know that the 2 mile stretch of area I live and work in is a deadzone and still give me crap for it. Basically, the rep said turn roaming off and have no service, or terminate. I like sprint, I've got 6 lines. It's the only carrier i can afford. I never call to complain, specifically because of that. I am happy with what I get.
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the thing that gets me is why don't they at least give out some numbers on how much you're allowed to roam data.. or are people not allowed data roaming at all?
i also assume if you tether, unless you do some type of work around on the device they can tell whether it's tethering or normal phone data.
Call to action!
TO ALL!!!! this is a call to action. I too, like many others are experiencing unacceptable data speeds while on 3G and in great reception while using the Galaxy S III. the speeds I should be receiving are 1.5-3 MB/s but instead I am receiving around 128Kb/s in the city and within excellent service. We all have to pay a 'Premium Data Add-On' charges just to own these phones and this is unacceptable. Please write an Email to [email protected], vice president of customer experience at sprint and let him know what you are experiencing. Maybe if enough pissed off customers write, they will finally listen!
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TO ALL!!!! this is a call to action. I too, like many others are experiencing unacceptable data speeds while on 3G and in great reception while using the Galaxy S III. the speeds I should be receiving are 1.5-3 MB/s but instead I am receiving around 128Kb/s in the city and within excellent service. We all have to pay a 'Premium Data Add-On' charges just to own these phones and this is unacceptable. Please write an Email to [email protected], vice president of customer experience at sprint and let him know what you are experiencing. Maybe if enough pissed off customers write, they will finally listen!
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That's a good idea. Cause I was thinking of doing the data roaming thing here and there when I need too. Some parts of Long Island is like a dead zone for Sprint. Esp, where I use to work. Now I work in New York City, signal is great there, but still tends to be funky and speeds are different (enough to notice) with all full bars. My friend who has Verizon, goes through his pandora, without skips, or downloads much quicker. I am just trying to wait it out for this 4G move to take place so my $10.00 extra a month addition won't feel that bad.....but its taking them forever!
It does suck. I've been paying the "premium" data few now for almost 3 years. I've never had had 4g and my 3g is pretty terrible.
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tft said:
the thing that gets me is why don't they at least give out some numbers on how much you're allowed to roam data.. or are people not allowed data roaming at all?
i also assume if you tether, unless you do some type of work around on the device they can tell whether it's tethering or normal phone data.
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They do its in your contract. And to the previous guy. 1.5GB of data is a lot for someone who doesn't get signal...
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Use the hell out your phone tethering included, we pay way more than it cost to use data. Roaning cost them money that's why the carrier get mad, but on there network they could careless. Most people ain't power users only most people on xda, well in the real world we make up a small group I highly doubt we would interrupt service. Sprint 3g is just slow it don't matter if 1500 people are connected or just 2 it sucks. I Been tethering over 20 gigs a month along time atleast five years. That's not a lot when you consider downloading games from gameloft downloading roms on xda tethering to use your xbox 360 online watching netfrix and so on. It needs to be unlimited all times free tethering an all I rather pay more for that.
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Since Dec 16,2012-Jan 9, 2013 I have used 20.40GB and have not received any letters from sprint
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Since Dec 16,2012-Jan 9, 2013 I have used 20.40GB and have not received any letters from sprint
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I am trying to roam using roam control but my GS3 won't get a signal in Chicago. I others on here roaming fine. I'm using version 2.6.2 which is the latest version. I have the app set to Samsung GS3. What can I do to get this working?

Werid 4g speeds, need help ruling out phone or network

I bought a Tmobile Galaxy S3 on new years from staples, and since ive got the phone ive been experiencing strange 4g speeds. While im in my house, I always have full signal strength, and it always says 4G. I live in the Bronx in New York City, and when the 4g is working properly, I get upwards of 20 megabits down, and 1-2 up. Now I could literally be sitting in the exact same spot, and later ill test the phone and it says 0.2 - 0.3 megabits, and like over 1000 ping and the up is so slow it doesnt even measure it. It usually comes back after waiting, turning airplane mode off and on multiple times or doing a battery pull. I find it strange that I can get either 21 mbps or 0.3 in the same house, while always having full bars. In the phone status sometimes it would say UTMS or HSPA, so it does switch from 3g to 4g sometimes. The thing is my previous phone was Nexus S with 3g and im pretty sure I never had a problem loading a simple image in my house because the internet was so slow. I consistently pulled 3-6 mbps on that phone. I tried calling t-mobile 3 times and they give me the same basic crap, like clear your cache, make sure airplane mode is off (really?) make sure youre network mode is on auto (i tried auto and wcdma only and it still gets slow) and all that other stuff. Is there anything else I could try to see if its a network or phone issue?
It sounds like it might be something with your local tower. I would call Tmobile and put in a repair ticket.
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Thanks, I just did that. Called t-mobile and just directly asked them to check for tower issues, and they filed a complaint. They said to check back in 3 days, hopefully this gets fixed, or else it might be the phone. Do you think flashing different modems would change anything?
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Thanks, I just did that. Called t-mobile and just directly asked them to check for tower issues, and they filed a complaint. They said to check back in 3 days, hopefully this gets fixed, or else it might be the phone. Do you think flashing different modems would change anything?
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It wouldn't hurt to try. What are you currently running? (rom/kernel/modem)
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Completely stock 4.1.1, with UVDLJA modem, which is the latest I believe. The phone is relatively new so I wanted to try touchwiz before I rooted. Does installing something like cm10 change the modem? Or is it independent of rom/kernel. I saw an application for tmo that can change between multiple modems pretty quickly, I might give it a try.
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My opinion
tigim101 said:
Thanks, I just did that. Called t-mobile and just directly asked them to check for tower issues, and they filed a complaint. They said to check back in 3 days, hopefully this gets fixed, or else it might be the phone. Do you think flashing different modems would change anything?
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I work for T-Mo,
If I may lend my opinion,
To me, it definitely sounds like the tower. If you go from 20Mbit down to 0.2, and with 1000ms latency, it's super obvious there is something
wrong with the tower, or there is significant demand on the tower from other users, hey its NYC population density is insane.
Something to note as well, New York City is "in progress" for "network modernization" where they are switching to 1900Mhz.
This is why some people who have iPhones are now getting 3G in certain areas, unlocked devices, as well as AT&T phones can have 3G down there.
Due to this, since there is quite a lot of switching around going on down there, that's probably what's going on.
Example:
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mobiles-network-modernization-what-is-it-where-can-i-get-coverage/
Hope it helps.
I see, well that makes sense. I dont really mind if its a tower issue because thatll be fixed eventually, I just would of hated if I had to replace the phone, it would of been such a hassle because I didnt buy it direct from t-mo. Thanks to both of you!
Also, since t-mobile seems to be using multiple bands for 4g, I guess it would be better to leave it on auto in network settings?
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I see, well that makes sense. I dont really mind if its a tower issue because thatll be fixed eventually, I just would of hated if I had to replace the phone, it would of been such a hassle because I didnt buy it direct from t-mo. Thanks to both of you!
Also, since t-mobile seems to be using multiple bands for 4g, I guess it would be better to leave it on auto in network settings?
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If it helps you at all to see if you are on a different band than 1700/2100mhz
You can go into the dialer and do:
*#0011#
Up top mine says band 4
Which is for 1700mhz AWS
BAND 2
which is for 1900mhz PCS.
You might be on band 4 or 2 on a tower by tower basis, or if they are making adjustments
You might be switched but that is above my pay grade lol

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