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Hi! I'm planning to buy DHD, but will it be worth to wait for IS, even IS isn't much better, if it is better...
IS has smaller display, less ROM, no card included, only better thing is HTC Sense 3.0 but I think i will be updated on DHD in q2 with G'bread.
If yuo have samo preposition, i'll be welcom to hear you. Thanks !
U have just answered ur own question. Why do u want a smaller phone with less RAM and no card if it gets gingerbread at the same time as the Dhd...the choice should be quite obvious....
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Hi.
The screen on IS is supposed to be better than DHD. Although, coming from TP2 myself, I've been more than satisfied with the display quality. Otherwise there's the front mounted webcam to consider. If you plan on doing video calls there probably won't be any way around the IS. Personally though, I'd go for the DHD, but that's just my preferred choice on account of the slightly larger screen and more RAM.
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Elo.
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The resolution is exactly the same on both devices, the only difference being that the Incredible S' screen is a bit smaller, so the pixel density is greater and it may look a tad better.
As for the RAM HTC's website states that in fact the Incredible S has EXACTLY the same amount of RAM as the Desire HD.
On top of that, the Incredible S also has a 1450mAh battery, while the Desire HD only has 1230mAh. The Desire HD has 1.5 GB of internal storage while the Incredible S has 1.1, but if you have a good SD card you won't miss much!
So basically what the Incredible S is, is a slightly smaller Desire HD with a smaller screen and bigger battery.
If battery life is very important to you then by all means, get the Incredible S, but if you look at the Desire HD forums, it is supported by amazing developers, whose ROMs easily tackle the battery situation; you can't guarantee that there will be good developers for the Incredible S, so you're taking a risk.
All in all I recommend the Desire HD, the choice is yours though.
Oh yeah, also I believe that only the Desire S, the HTC Flyer, the HTC ChaCha, and the HTC Salsa come with Gingerbread by default. The Incredible S is confirmed to get Gingerbread at the same time as the Desire HD.
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if you wanna upgrade go for dual core with a ddr2 ram. its gonna be worth it
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if you wanna upgrade go for dual core with a ddr2 ram. its gonna be worth it
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sod that hang out for the quad core with ddr3
Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Two words. Incredible s. If you can wait get a sensation
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Incredible S defenietly has better specifications, but it indeed does not have the same customrom / supportuserbase on xda yet.
Like stated above, the Sensation will be out in 1-2months, and thats a great phone. If you cannot wait and want a new phone now, perhaps the Desire HD is a valid option also (Better than regular Desire, similar specs to Incredible, but awesome support/userbase here on XDA).
Blah id get the lg optimus 2x for that amount of cash (dual corez)
But if i had to choose incredible s (desire is booring)
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I got an Arc to wait for the Sensation with root, I am considering to sell it and get a Desire or DHD just because the Arc while it has root it doesn't have any custom rom!
I sold my 1 year used N1 for 330$ 2 weeks ago so I think selling a Desire or DHD in 2 months will be pretty the same, whereas the SE price droping fast and its lack of popularity will mean that I will sell it for even less than a Desire.
So if you can't live without custom roms more than 2 weeks...buy a good old Desire or DHD!
The Sensation will be out between the 8th and 15th June, add to that another month to find a root and the price to decrease
Well, guys, thanks for replying, but why would you ever mention Sensation? I have a budget and I couldn't shell out that much of money and what I heard, dual-core is a battery drainer plus I don't want 4.3" screen as it's too big for me. Even 4" is, that's why I was going for Desire which is 3.7" or something.
Can you put custom ROM on Incredible S?
^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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I couldn't go for Google Nexus S because it doesn't have support in Moscow, Russia e.g if I have hardware failure or such, I couldn't take it to the support.
Sounds like I wouldn't need to change ROM on Incredible S but I would like to be able to root it to have full power on it. Is Android applications depended of which phone model do you have (I'm already aware it's depended of android version)?
Also, is dev support is that important? If it is, then I guess I should fall back down to HTC Desire.
Also, I'm pretty tired of this 5 minutes limit for editing/posting, when will it get removed?
If you are in desperate need of a new phone and you can afford something more expensive than Desire, I think you should get either Incredible S or Nexus S.
If you can wait and still afford the price when it comes to the market, I think Sensation would be the better option.
The good old Desire is still a good option to get. Despite of all its weaknesses due to being an old model with old specs, Desire is very cheap at this moment, especially the second handed one.
I had a Desire about a year ago, then moved to the Samsung Galaxy S.
But just today I bought a Desire for £200 brand new, I couldn't resist as it's just such a good phone!
Running AdamG's Oxygen ROM on it now, it's so awesome!
Oh well I just discovered the weather from Sense 3.0 has been ported to DHD in a 100% workingl rom, the Desire will follow shortly
I guess it boils down to price for you by the sounds of it. Also consider if you are big in to gaming and video as Incredible GPU is much better than Desire from what I can remember. Is the Incredible locked though, as in bootloader/ROM's? Also something to bear in mind.
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If you can I'd get a desire s sounds about right for you.
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Ill sell u my white htc desire good condition with 16gb class 10 card (13mb write 23mb read) and all manuals headphones usb charger. Unlocked running miui 1.4.29
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Hi all
Do you recommend buying Desire ?!
I tried Android at Wildfire and found it so good and amazing so i sold it and want to get a new more powerful device
It costs around 420~500 USD in my country - Egypt and the devices in that range is New Galaxy Ace or used Galaxy S and i don't like both
already compared it to Desire S and couldn't find any huge different which will cost me more 100 USD !!!
so do you recommend buying HTC Desire ? and is it true it will updated to New Sense same one in Desire S ???!!!
Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy
I just recently bought a used Desire for about $200 CAD and I love it.
My voice plan with Rogers comes to like 22$ and I have no desire to add a $25 data plan to get $50/month plan to get a phone subsidized from them.
I just the App2SD with a 1GB ext4 partition on my SD card to get around the limited space the phone has.
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Desire S has the double of space (1.1 GB internal memory) compared to the normal Desire
Desire will never get sense 3.0
But if u can spend a bit more or found a cheap offer, i'll go for the samsung galaxy s 2, once buyed it u can stay with it for 2-3 years without need to change phone (the same is not true for the desire s in this moment, because it's already "old")
Just my opinion if you going to buy a new phone, anyway i will stay with an other year or more with my desire (got it in april 2010) before buy an other top phone, this is my personal philosophy
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Galaxy S II will cost me about 800$ and this is too much for phone , buying i7+6GB laptop will be better idea
i think that i already saw costume roms for Desire with sense 3 and circle lock screen or i am wrong ??!!
and i am still noob at Android but i thing with root i can add more extra space for phone to install apps to it exactly like installing them to phone memory and it's so easy to get 8 or 16 GB SD Card ???
and as you said Desire S seems to be old and same as Desire so i think spending more money on it will not be a good idea
What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?
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What about Desire HD , If i managed to get it with good deal do you recommend it ?
will it be updated to new Sense the one in Sensation officially or also will be custom rom ?
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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.
i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!
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DHD is a fair bit better and still has some decent rom support. It will probably get the sense update, so if you can't really find a newer phone i'd say yeah, go for it.
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The problem is getting SGSII or Sensation that thier prices are too high now and sooner their prices will be lower than now so i don't think it's good idea to get 2 months old phone right now ,,,
i liked HTC Sense a lot so i am choosing from HTC not Samsung also HTC have bigger support from developers than Samsung as i can see
but i read that it's sound is low and LCD Screen not that good ,, is this true ?
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i'm also pretty much new with android and htc so let me give you some n00b insight...
i've owned Desire for 3 months and i got used to it by now. it can give you both joy and anger. it depends on how you use it. if you live it on stock ROM it'll work smooth and you can find tips and tricks how to make it somewhat better without rooting and flashing roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653310
if you decide to root and flash custom ROMs then you can get even better device with many tweaks already built-in new software. for example you can flash Desire HD rom and therefore don't have to actually buy DHD (hardware is not that much different IMHO). now i'm running InsertCoin Gingerbread based rom which hasn't even been released for Desire yet, with many Sense 3.0 goodies which probably won't be officially included in GB update at all. as a downside, these roms can have some bugs, but are overall better than stock. just take a look into some rom development topics...
Desire has it's flaws but overall i'm waaay satisfied... although it's now an old rag D) it still kicks many "smartphone" butts out there. i came from nokia x6 and now i wonder why did i go there in a first place...
anyway, i think you can't go wrong with it. you can of course buy DHD for somewhat better hardware or spare some more money for sensation, but if you're unviling to do so, Desire is still great choice...just my 2 cents!! cheers, i hope this helps a bit!
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Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??
Comparing DHD to Incredible S latest HTC one core device they are the same !!! and i think that DHD is even better !!!
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Thanks a lot very useful post ,,,
I will ditch my N8 for Android/HTC ,,, I really loved Android and HTC from using Wildfire for 10 days only !!!
mmmmm , DHD Roms working on Desire ?? very good and new info for me...
and i am agree with you that there is no much difference at specification just bigger screen and camera but ditching 12MP Cam - the best i ever used - means that i don't care that much for it
so your are happy with desire and it's worth it's money,,, is there any news about official update from HTC ???
and what is DHD latest official version right now ??
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yeah, x6 had much better camera, and camera is my only problem with desire. but the phone (any phone) is never meant to be a substitute for real camera..so no real prob here....
DHD rom for desire is actually a port, so desire can run it. it's not THE rom from DHD. with that said, you can put virtually any rom into desire but with more or less tweaking to the point where hardware eventually becomes incapable of running much newer rom. therefore sense 3.0 stuff are greatly tweaked for desire to be able to run it. it's not like the real thing but pretty much close. and it's getting better every day... modders here are the wizards, i tell you...
so yeah, i'm happy with desire, didn't regret spending the money on it at all!
as for the official update from HTC, there were many contradictory statements, and the final one is that there WILL be gingerbread update but no word on sense update. you can find it in desire-general section.
I'm using Desire since April 2010, so it's more than a year now. I was very excited about the whole Android thing. And still am. But the phone itself has some big issues. First of all is the huge lack of internal memory. I can't even install the most necessary apps. Secondly it's the overheating problem. My Desire was one of the first Amoled batches and it had issues with the SOC. While using processor demanding apps like navigation, flash playback etc. It was constantly rebooting. Had to repair it. For 3 times. Then it's the speaker and battery. They both are weak. After my previous E61 Desiree's speaker really sucks. Camera is decent too. But in overall I still like, though I would really consider buying SGS back then. Now I'll wait for another year or so. Btw I'm now using MIUI ROM and it gave a second breath to Desire. Good luck with buying!
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Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know
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Thanks all for your help , i will back again when i get the final prices for D , DHD and Ds as i will not buy it from my country , my cousin will get it to me so i am waiting the prices from him
if you will choose between Desire,Desire S and Desire HD , What will you choose ? and why ?
and if you have other suggestions - even if not HTC - let me know
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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...
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I'd go for dhd, bigger screen and same specs of ds, regular desire is a bit outdated compared to them both imo...
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What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!
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What about HD Games like Asphalt HD and NFS , are their performance good at this devices ?!
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Those are working good, but ofc latest tegra games will run no more than decent, adreno 205 is a relatively weak gpu compared to the latest hardware goodness like tegra 2 SOCs...
best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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400€ is an awful lot for something to deserve the best buy tag.
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best buy at the moment is Samsung Galaxy S 2 for 400€.
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Yes, 400€...in your dreams...
Hi there!
I just wanted to know which one is better, since I couldn't find a good comparison online...
They all feature 1GHz processors, but the Desire has a Adreno 200, while the other two have Adreno 205 (which is, according to WWW, better than 200...). But the Desire has an Amoled screen, the other Desire S has a S-LCD screen (don't know what's better but the 'amoled' sounds fancier), and the Desire HD has a LCD screen... I got the info about these phones on gsmarena.com...
I just want to know:
-what's better for gaming
-what's better for watching movies
-which one has better speakers, for playing music out loud
-what's better for just ... being a phone! - just your opinion (I don't care if it's subjective, just your feelings and thoughts if you ever held one and compared them.)
THANKS!
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Yeah, sorry, the title is 'HTC Desire vs. Desire S vs. Desire HD... I want to know about all of them...
1)gaming: there are both even with the same GPU, CPU is 1GHz and there have the same ram 768
2) Watching films: i would say the desire S as it has a sharper resolution of 252 PPI were the desire HD has 216 PPI however the screen in HDH is bigger
3)sound- im not sure
here is the other things you might want to know:
1- camera HDH wins beacuse it has a 8MP where the desire s only has 5 MP howvere the desire s has a secondary camera with a 1.3 MP were to HDH hasnt there both 720p recording
2-battery: if you care about battary than the desire s has a better one.
3-talk time: desire S wins
Hope that helps
What about Desire, the original HTC Desire? It's GPU seems to be... low against S and HD... Anything about that?
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What about Desire, the original HTC Desire? It's GPU seems to be... low against S and HD... Anything about that?
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You may as well forget about getting the Desire, there's no point now. It's old.
Desire S - looks good, good screen, good memory, good hardware.
Desire HD - Very bad battery life (from what I hear), sucky screen (but bigger), good hardware, good memory
I'd get a DesireS hands down. Actually.. if I was going to get a new phone it'd be a Galaxy Nexus, but out of those 3 the Desire S is the best choice.
Desire would be pointless compared to the desire s and HDH
and yes the HDH has a poor battery but the desire s and desire HD have similar specs but desire S wins for me
Thanks for the info! But about the price, which one is 'costier' and is it a good idea to buy a used android phone?
Sorry for bugging you...
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bortak, isnt that the desire in your signature? looks like it to me...
if u dont need htc sense, in my opinion the nexus s is the best compromise between price and performance at the moment
it already got ICS, better interface than the htc sense probably
The Desire is obsolete. No point in buying one now. While it's a good phone and can still hold its own, it has very low internal memory and that's a big problem now'days, as apps have gotten quite large (and interesting, which makes you wanna install more and more and more etc.). Sure, you can circumvent the low internal memory issue using an APPS2SD ROM, but why go through the hassle if you can completely avoid it?
In my opinion, the better phone between the three is the Desire S. Best battery life, easy to hold with one hand or fit in the pocket, decent screen, good GPU, good CPU, decent internal memory, Sense 3 straight from HTC, touch buttons (as opposed to physical buttons in the Desire, which are prone to failure). Just watch out for bad copies, as i've seen that there are quite a few people who had to return their phones because of mainboard issues. Some even got a replacement phone (brand new) with the same issue (mostly random reboots). So if you decide to get one, try and buy one which is still under warranty.
Regarding the HD and its low pixel density, that isn't that much of an issue in real life usage. The only thing about the HD is that it's quite big and it has quite a low battery life, making you need to carry your charger around with you.
If you're not really set on an HTC phone, yes, i have to agree, the Nexus S is best bang for buck ATM as ICS is quite the hit and it's gettin' it straight from Google, baby! Nothing faster than an AOSP ROM! Also, the ICS interface rocks!
Thanks, you guys!
but, about nexus, a used desire s costs three times less than a used nexus... anyways, the nexus is brand new here and people aren't showing much interest in it... besides, a new one costs ~650€ here and there are no used ones...
Nexus s or galaxy nexus
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[...] anyways, the nexus is brand new here and people aren't showing much interest in it... besides, a new one costs ~650€ here and there are no used ones...
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We're suggesting you buy a Google Nexus S, not a Google Galaxy Nexus. The Google Nexus S is basically a Samsung Galaxy S under the hood, the main difference being the fact that it gets all its updates straight from Google, including ICS (which Samsung isn't bringing to its Galaxy S line 'cause of "space reasons").
What about the screen res. between the nexus s and desire s? and the nexus s doesn't have radio... and they both have the same processor... so i'd reccommend the desire s more than nexus s...
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Hi there!
I just wanted to know which one is better, since I couldn't find a good comparison online...
They all feature 1GHz processors, but the Desire has a Adreno 200, while the other two have Adreno 205 (which is, according to WWW, better than 200...). But the Desire has an Amoled screen, the other Desire S has a S-LCD screen (don't know what's better but the 'amoled' sounds fancier), and the Desire HD has a LCD screen... I got the info about these phones on gsmarena.com...
I just want to know:
-what's better for gaming
-what's better for watching movies
-which one has better speakers, for playing music out loud
-what's better for just ... being a phone! - just your opinion (I don't care if it's subjective, just your feelings and thoughts if you ever held one and compared them.)
THANKS!
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Yeah, sorry, the title is 'HTC Desire vs. Desire S vs. Desire HD... I want to know about all of them...
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desire is the worst of them.it is the worst for gaming and watching movies.for watching movies i guess desire hd is the best since it has a 4.3 inch screen.My opinion desire hd is the best of them all.and if you root you can even overclock the dhd to 1.5 ghz stable.desire isnt a good overclocker the stable rate is 1113.not sure about desire s.but it could probably get more overclocked then normal desire.Thats my opinion
Hi people,
To start with, I did my research and haven't got answers to my question...so am posting one here.
Ok, so I plan to buy HTC Desire for my wife, but wanted to know if I now go to buy it, will it be an LCD or AMOLED? or something else??
There seems to some confusion about the screen?
Also, if you'll could help me in deciding between the Desire and the Desire S.
Wanted a front facing camera phone, but is the Desire S's FF camera any good? If it is hopeless, then I might as well buy a phone without it...
So, thanks so much for reading...
desire used to come in S-LCD and S-AMOLED...
now u will only get S-LCD
desire S is only available in S-LCD
Desire S is way better with more RAM and better camera...and hardware....worth it
dont buy desire..crappy camera...
so go for desire S....
also i'll highly recommend samsung Galaxy R which comes at the same price but is way more better
S-LCD
S-LCD is good too. Don't bother in picking one or the other.
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S-LCD is good too. Don't bother in picking one or the other.
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Thanx!
My only worry, the front facing camera quality of the Desire S. That is, IF I am buying that...
But so far my wife likes the Desire...
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desire used to come in S-LCD and S-AMOLED...
now u will only get S-LCD
desire S is only available in S-LCD
Desire S is way better with more RAM and better camera...and hardware....worth it
dont buy desire..crappy camera...
so go for desire S....
also i'll highly recommend samsung Galaxy R which comes at the same price but is way more better
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Thanx, I will try to convince her, but if she likes the Desire, I am helpless. I wanted one with a FF camera, which is the Desire S. But let's see. It isn't in my budget yet. Waiting for the CES 2012 to work its charm...
front camera
Yes, a front camera is good for video calls (3g or skype).
It's also good for the new Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) face unlock of the phone.
I will definitely recommend a phone with a front camera.