I've been researching rooting for a while now but I still don't quite get what the consequences, requirements and benefits are of rooting, flashing etc. The wiki seems to be rather out of date, and doesn't even have an arc section.
What I want is:
1.To stop all the crappy software rogers and sony have forced on there, constantly autostarting themselves(Hotshots golf, setup guide, liveware manager, mobile backup, storefront, postcard, even maps likes to run on its own)
2. Swype
What I am concerned of is:
1. Do I have to erase everything on my phone to root?
2. Would I lose any of the default functionality of the arc?
3. What would I require to do this modification?
4. Can I reverse this process and go back to factory settings?
5. Would I be able to update later on?
and most of all, 6. Would it actually allow me to do what I want as stated above?
I've got an LT15a running 2.3.3 on Rogers with no attempted modifications.
bunktacular said:
I've been researching rooting for a while now but I still don't quite get what the consequences, requirements and benefits are of rooting, flashing etc. The wiki seems to be rather out of date, and doesn't even have an arc section.
What I want is:
1.To stop all the crappy software rogers and sony have forced on there, constantly autostarting themselves(Hotshots golf, setup guide, liveware manager, mobile backup, storefront, postcard, even maps likes to run on its own)
2. Swype
What I am concerned of is:
1. Do I have to erase everything on my phone to root?
2. Would I lose any of the default functionality of the arc?
3. What would I require to do this modification?
4. Can I reverse this process and go back to factory settings?
5. Would I be able to update later on?
and most of all, 6. Would it actually allow me to do what I want as stated above?
I've got an LT15a running 2.3.3 on Rogers with no attempted modifications.
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1. Nope at all, if you have unlocked bootloader and flash prerooted kernel correlate to your firmware
2. Nope, the phone still remains intact after rooting, just add superuser to your phone
3. Just need your phone rooted and do exactly as the thread owner said, ur gonna be fine.
4. Yes, all you need is flash back to your stock rom
5. Yes, absolutely possible
6. Yes again, once you have root permission (superuser), you can delete those craps and use Swype.
*just a side note,
you can root your phone without unlocking your bootloader but yeah, that would mean loosing your data completely
@Babygau
Alright, thank you very much.
On a follow up then, can you point me towards the best method of rooting an arc, bearing in mind that Rogers has disabled Sony's bootloader?
And also where I would be able to get Swype? Swype's site is pointless and google just brought up people talking about using it, not how to get it.
@cryogenix
Yeah, thats what I was afraid of :/
Rogers disabled the arcs bootloader, I'm trying to figure out what I can do and hopefully not erase my data.
So long as I can achieve the 2 objectives at the top, I'd be happy though.
You'll lose the ability for ota updates when you delete system files. That's the only bad thing at your plan.
Rooting alone won't remove any abilitys.
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@bunktacular
You would need to flash a 2.3.2 ROM onto your phone (Ignore this if you are on 2.3.2). Rooting is as simple as installing Gingerbreak and running it (Gingerbreak doesn't work on 2.3.3 and hence the need to downgrade to 2.3.2). Then do an OTA (Over The Air) update to 2.3.3 to retain root.
I suggest you wipe user data. Make a backup if need be.
Also, get the latest Swype 3.0 beta from here.
Once you have your rooted 2.3.3, install Titanium Backup. It will allow you to remove all the Rogers and SE bloatware. No, you won't lose the functionality of the arc. You stand to gain with rooting not vice-versa.
The only caveat is that once you remove system apps as Flo95 pointed out is that the next time you want to update your phone, you'd have to resort to SEUS instead of an OTA update.
[With the latest update from SE (i.e. the update from August 1, 2011), I'm not sure about root status.]
xtacy! said:
@bunktacular
You would need to flash a 2.3.2 ROM onto your phone (Ignore this if you are on 2.3.2). Rooting is as simple as installing Gingerbreak and running it (Gingerbreak doesn't work on 2.3.3 and hence the need to downgrade to 2.3.2). Then do an OTA (Over The Air) update to 2.3.3 to retain root.
I suggest you wipe user data. Make a backup if need be.
Also, get the latest Swype 3.0 beta from here.
Once you have your rooted 2.3.3, install Titanium Backup. It will allow you to remove all the Rogers and SE bloatware. No, you won't lose the functionality of the arc. You stand to gain with rooting not vice-versa.
The only caveat is that once you remove system apps as Flo95 pointed out is that the next time you want to update your phone, you'd have to resort to SEUS instead of an OTA update.
[With the latest update from SE (i.e. the update from August 1, 2011), I'm not sure about root status.]
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the other easier way is go to this website: http://www.wotanserver.com
create a free account, download their client software, and they will do the rest for you
droidlessons.com/what-is-rooting-on-android-the-advantages-and-disadvantages
Rooting v2.3.2, posted May 15th, 2011:
Updating over-the-air to v2.3.3 and keeping root, posted June 22nd, 2011:
Swype doesn't require root. It's just a regular application install.
Alright then, it seems what I really need is to flash 2.3.2 then, at least until gingerbreak works for 2.3.3.
What's the best method for me to do this?
EDIT:
I have found a fairly detailed guide on doing so, let's see how this goes.
Flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088539
Sucess! Aside from mybackup completely messing up my contacts, everything went smoothly.
if u already have your bootloader unlocked, just flash lastest firmware including prerooted kernel
if not, using gingerbreak
bunktacular said:
Alright then, it seems what I really need is to flash 2.3.2 then, at least until gingerbreak works for 2.3.3.
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I doubt Gingerbreak will patch 2.3.3.
The issue is that the exploits in 2.3.2, 2.3.3 were patched in 2.3.4 by Google and because Sony's version of 2.3.3 was released after 2.3.4 was released, those security fixes from 2.3.4 were backported into Sony's version of 2.3.3.
bunktacular said:
EDIT:
I have found a fairly detailed guide on doing so, let's see how this goes.
Flashing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088539
Sucess! Aside from mybackup completely messing up my contacts, everything went smoothly.
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Backup & Restore from v2.1 is compatible with v2.3.x.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196908
babygau said:
if u already have your bootloader unlocked, just flash lastest firmware including prerooted kernel
if not, using gingerbreak
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He's got a Rogers branded arc branded arc. Therefore, he can't unlock the bootloader (yet).
Hi guys I am a newbie here and need some help I have read through a few posts and still don't fully understand things to my specific needs I recently de-branded and rooted a xperia play and things went well I used some software that I was told to use and then used gingerbreak excellent stuff but now I have another query.
I have an xperia play running android 2.3.3 with the build version 4.0.A.2.368 originally the handset was on Vodafone I bought it 2nd hand and put my t-mobile sim card in and everything works fine, I have apps on there that relate to Vodafone customers e.g Vodafone store Vodafone updates and something called qype I do not want these an can not uninstall them there is also the apps that came with the 2.3.3 update like the wise pilot app that I don't need and want to remove. I also keep getting low storage warning and cant see why as I only have a few apps installed an about 10 games most of which I have moved to sd card using the built in option.
I have read about not being able to use gingerbreak with 2.3.3 I have read about downgrading to 2.3.2 and then using OTA to update but what I don't want todo is loose my games and apps that are on my fone can anybody tell me if this is possible and how I can do this. I don't want todo anything fancy like over-clocking I just want a way to free up space move apps to the sd card and remove the unwanted apps that I don't need.
I do apologize if this has already been discussed before I have searched and cannot find anything.
Look for thread in the dev section on how to root with zergRush, that should do it even on 2.3.3
And there's a thread about wich apps are safe to delete/freeze. Think it's located in the general section.
Regards Dousan...
thanks i will give this a try a bit later gona backup all the data i can just to stay on the safe side before going head with the it.
You can downgrade to 2.3.2 without loosing your data,just uncheck the ''Wipe data '' box,gingerbreak and then ota to 2.3.3 and you have root on 2.3.3 without data loss
I just unlocked the bootloader of the phone and lost all data including phone data of contacts and sd card data
Damn, never saw that coming, now what is the easiest way to install the CWM on Xperia Play.
I have root as well.
I want to do this before doing anything as I do not want to lose data again.
Please suggest. Basically I want this so that I can install ICS/other themes via flashable zip and also some tweaks.
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Maddy
I too would like to know this. Disappointed by lack of guides coming from the HTC Desire which was so hacker friendly and full of instructions. I've unlocked bootloader and rooted but there's hardly any roms plus don't even know how to install the ones that are available! Did my root install CWM?
Root does not install it, there are few ROMs which I have come across, but was struggling to find a proper install method w/o losing data.
I have been suggested this method which I am yet to try.
For now was moving apks to get the ICS look which I pretty much succeeded along with ADW Launcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130639
Will try the bootloader unlock and then you know but will take time.
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Maddy
There is this method of getting CWM without unlocking, Recovery for locked bootloaders. People have been reporting success from it
Hi guys,
I have a DHD running 2.3.5 sense 3.0 and there are data that need to access in the phone's memory, therefore I thought I'd give rooting my phone a try. I have been looking around and found that I can root using the Ace hacking kit, but it would require me to downgrade the phone which would wipe the data on my phone, which defeats the purpose for me to root my phone. I am wondering if there is a way to gain access to the phone's memory without wiping its data?
Cheers.
Hi
AAHK is the best method to root ur device and ur phone need downgrade because right now the only way to root 2.3.5 is to downgrade. you shuld backup ur data and try to root ur device or you can wait till there is exploit available to root 2.3.5
Thanks for the reply, so is there an app that allows me to back up the phone data before I root the device? (I am trying to access some messages that is stored in the phone memory (that app saves the messages in the phone memory only))
Cheers
I would like to temporary root my phone just to remove some unwanted apps then unroot it.
I actually rooted my Dell Streak before with oneclickroot but I never unrooted before so I have no experience in that. Will unrooting affect the phone in anyway?
By the way, my phone is an unlocked Asia phone.
How do I do this?
Thanks a lot.
Rooting your phone needs your bootloader to be unlocked, which will voids warranty.
but you can relock bootloader again.
ICS lets you disable apps, which other than the space recovered in the system partition is the same as uninstalling.
You get the space back in the data partition AND you won't lose the ability to do OTAs as the original APK is still in the system partition.
Disable is the same as Freezing in Titanium Backup.