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From searching, it looks like tons of people are having random reboot issues with the HTC EVO. Let's make one thread to put everything so maybe we can figure this out.
Side note, it looks like the HTC desire has the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676402&highlight=rebooting
So post what you've tried that hasn't worked.
If you think you have a solution, share
One thing I've noticed is it seems heat related.
I've installed temperatures monitors and it seems around 32 degrees Celcius is around when it reboots. It will reboot loop usually. This can be cured by pulling the battery and waiting for it to cool down, or just put it in the freezer for 4-5 minutes.
I've tried underclocking it with the screen dimmed way down, and running it without the back cover and it still overheats.
For me, the problem came out of nowhere. I had the device for over a month with heavy usage and no problems. My current GUESS is it must be a physical problem. Not enough thermal grease or something...
It looks like the HTC Desire users may be getting replacement motherboards to fix their issue.
Does the HTC EVO and Desire share parts?
From other threads it looks like:
Root or Stock - Doesn't matter
Radio version - Doesn't matter
Rom version - Doesn't matter
GPS Fix - Doesn't matter
GPS turned off - Doesn't matter
3G data, 4G data turned off - Doesn't matter
Hard Reset - Doesn't matter
Found this on the HTC Desire reboot thread:
Latest test list for HTC Desire RR (Random Reboot) problems:
-All phones with s/n HT03 to HT07 can get this problem (Minor problem from SH09 so far)
-Starts around 1.5 to 3 months after use
-Reboots get worse over time
-Firmware and android version doesn’t matter which you have
-Force apps2sd doesn’t matter if you use it or not
-PVT1 or PVT3 or whatever doesn’t matter
-Screen type, doesn't matter if you have AMOLED or SLCD
-There seems to be an antenna/radio/simcard issue also
-Overheating causes reboots too
-Reboot is not always temp related
-SD card size doesn’t seem to matter
-Having apps on SD or not doesn’t matter
-Size of files on SD doesn’t matter
-Rooted or not doesn’t matter
-Motherboard changed after repair doesn't always fix it
-Sim locked or not doesn't matter
-Provider doesn't matter(vodafone, kpn/hi, T-mobile etc all got it)
-Most likely hardware issue, sense flashing won’t fix it, yet changing motherboard will
-Restarting doesn't fix it
-Factory resetting doesn't fix it
-Changing/buying new battery Doesn’t fix it
-Using app killers or shutting down some services yourself doesn't help
-Leaving all settings on default doesn't fix it
-Plugged into car charger in the past doesn’t matter
-Hboot version probably doesn't matter (still not fully tested)
-Having a phone cover or not doesn’t matter
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wifes phone has been doing it very bad...one that has never been rooted...
was going to root it and try new rom but seems to be a hardware issue.
any other comments on this subject?
My stock rooted Rom just rebooted for the first time today. I really don't rememebr what I was doing st the time....but this has never happened before. I assume there's no event log to check.
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I had been facing this with increasing frequency. I got the phone on launch day, and the problem started over the last month, getting worse all the time. I agree with the OP that there does not seem to be any obvious cause -- sometimes it is heat related, sometimes not. Any time I push the phone (run psx4droid, or navigation + anything else), and sometimes even with lighter usage, like on a phone call. Unrooting did nothing to stop the problem.
After extensive searching, I found three possible causes: bad battery (I tried a new one and the problem continued, but this seems a good starting place), bad memory blocks, or bad processor.
I was unable to find any solution to this problem. I took my phone to Sprint today, and they told me that their tests didn't show a problem. Then I made it happen in front of them (launch navigation to anywhere, then a couple more apps, then boom, reboot) a couple times (really, after the first time, letting it turn back on pretty much caused it to happen again).
After that, they agreed to replace it. I do have the TEP, but they assumed that the problem was hardware related so I don't know if you have to have it for them to replace it.
Strangely, they gave me a white one as a replacement.
I haven't had any problems with the new (well, re-manufactured) one, and I hope it stays that way, but I guess only time will tell.
I'm currently experiencing the problem as well, funny thing is every time it happens, the phone is NOT in use, simply sitting on table or desktop in standby. This happens about once every two days.
Currently running rooted evio2 1.3.1
Wow, I was about to start this thread, when I saw this. I guess I was like 10 minutes late. Either way, i believe something messed with the hardware. My little bro cracked my screen badly, so I am getting a new evo anyway, but will I be able to get one free bcuz of this? This is really a terrible problem. Somebody needs to de-assemble their precious evo and see if there is an obvious problem. thanks a bunch. Subscribing.
same here.
happens mostly when on the charger and i am using it at the same time. so heat related seems likely.
can anyone get a logcat of it happening?
I called sprint support and they said it's defective to return it.
Taking it in for replacement today.
Sprint replaced mine for $35 [a refurb]. That's the end of that.
But now, I can only use the speaker to hear my callers. Gotta go back and get another!
My guess is the new update could be putting a lot of strain on the battery but who knows? I haven't experienced it but maybe its because I'm using the extended mah 3500 seido battery.
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thlinx said:
My guess is the new update could be putting a lot of strain on the battery but who knows? I haven't experienced it but maybe its because I'm using the extended mah 3500 seido battery.
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No, I've got the 3500mAh Seido battery too.
I don't think it's strain since mine has gotten worse. AKA the amount of usage it take to make the phone reboot has gone from hours of use to minutes.
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No, I've got the 3500mAh Seido battery too.
I don't think it's strain since mine has gotten worse. AKA the amount of usage it take to make the phone reboot has gone from hours of use to minutes.
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Actually I just had a reboot lol.
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Same thing here. I posted my issue in the rom threads i used, and everyone ignored the issue, lol.
For me, I noticed it about a week after using roms with the new software update (3.29). It happened with navigation, launching multiple apps, running quadrant, etc.
So yesterday I installed DC 3.5 from scratch, turned nav on and let it sit for a couple of hours. NO reboots. Before, after 10 mins of the screen and nav being on, I'd get a reboot. Has anyone else tried this (or willingly to try it)? I switched back to my nand backup, ran quadrant -> bam, reboot.
I bought my EVO on launch day (HW Version 002), and have not had any problems until around Oct 13.
I took the phone on a trip to Orlando, and as soon as I got off the plane and turned on the phone, the problems started happening. It has been happening ever since, even since I returned home.
I bought my phone at Best Buy, and have had their Geek Squad send it back to try to fix it. I also added the complaints about screen separation to the workorder so that they would be more likely to replace the device. Hopefully, this fixes the issue.
I also think it is heat related, but I don't know why it is just now becoming an issue. Just to make sure the folks at BB could see the issue happening, I put the phone in front of my car's heater for a few minutes, then started up Google Earth, and was able to make the phone start boot looping while I walked into the store.
I tried hard reset, soft reset, update prl, underclocking, GPS Reset, new battery, new SD Card, and none of those things worked. I wonder if the removal of the 30 fps limit in the last update caused some type of heat damage?
I just had a reboot last night while trying to look at a picture I'd just taken in the Camera app on CM6.0.0. Only the 2nd or 3rd time it's happened. Still annoying though. Hope it doesn't get worse.
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I called sprint support and they said it's defective to return it.
Taking it in for replacement today.
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How much they charged you?
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MedSchool26 said:
Same thing here. I posted my issue in the rom threads i used, and everyone ignored the issue, lol.
For me, I noticed it about a week after using roms with the new software update (3.29). It happened with navigation, launching multiple apps, running quadrant, etc.
So yesterday I installed DC 3.5 from scratch, turned nav on and let it sit for a couple of hours. NO reboots. Before, after 10 mins of the screen and nav being on, I'd get a reboot. Has anyone else tried this (or willingly to try it)? I switched back to my nand backup, ran quadrant -> bam, reboot.
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I reset mine back to stock. Unrooted it and everything.
Didn't fix the issue for me.
Now I did try erasing all the stuff that's erasable inside recovery and it seemed to go a few days without a reboot. Not sure if that was a fluke or not.
i've had a desire (normal version) since the day it was released. but when the HD came out, i just had to have it.
in the beginning everything was just fine with my HD.
but since a little while, the simcard is acting weird.
yesterday afternoon i put the simcard in (had to use a different phone for a day), and everything worked fine. no problems at all.
this morning i woke up, and i looked at the screen of my HD.
no reception, and a little warning telling me to set the time and date.
(it has done this before, it started about a week after i got it).
i try calling, but the phone says "no simcard".
i remove the backcover, and there was my simcard. still in perfect position.
i even tried a little piece of paper to really squeeze the card in.
i took out the simcard, cleaned it (just in case), put it back in and turned off the phone.
a minute later, i turned on the phone again and everything was fine again.
but it's just a matter of time before the phone will say that there is no simcard.
it does this almost every other day, and it's really really annoying.
(it does this to with other simcards)
if i put my simcard in another phone, i don't have any problems, only the HD does this.
can somebody please help, because it's really annoying if i have to restart the phone every other day because it won't recognize the simcard anymore.
If a hard reset (back to factory defaults) doesn't fix this then I'm afraid it sounds like hardware fault and you'd need to get the phone replaced.
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i can't get it replaced (i've been told).
a few weeks ago the phone fell and the screen broke. the screen has been replaced but i've been told that i don't have any warranty on it because of the repair.
the thing i don't understand is, why work perfectly for a whole day (sometimes even more) and without warning all of the sudden the simcard isn't recognized anymore.
with hardware faults the fault should be there all the time, not just after a certain amount of time.
Hardware fault can still be intermittent just like a mechanical fault.
How did the hard reset go?
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i used this guide for the hard reset: http://www.hard-reset.com/htc-desire-hd-hard-reset.html
that was about a month or two ago.
the phone still acts as if there is no simcard sometimes.
the hard reset didn't do anything. (except for losing some data...).
Then if it does this with every SIM card you tried and the SIM cards all work fine in other phones (ruling out SIM card issue) I don't know what else it could be other than hardware.
Software issue can discounted as you have done a reset.
How long getting it back from screen replacement? If not long I'd blame that and insist they repair it.
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i had to sent it twice actually.
the first time they had it for about 2 weeks because they had to wait for parts.
then i got it home, but the glue for the screen didn't stick well enough (1 corner got loose) so i called them and they fixed it for free.
this time they had the phone for about 2 weeks again.
but how the hell am i gonna explain why the simcard holder was affected by the replacement of the screen?
You don't.
The phone has to be pulled apart to change screens and anything could have happened.
If it was only a week ago you got phone back or less I'd just contact them and say "ever since I got phone back this has happened" and ***** till they agree.
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made the call, the're gonna look into it.
so i'll have to sent my phone again, and wait for the're findings.
they first check if it has to do with previous repairs, if not it's not covered by the warranty.
*sigh...*
been sending it up and down for the last couple of months...
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*sigh...*
been sending it up and down for the last couple of months...
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Good luck. If they get funny about it just ***** louder.
But the moral here? Don't drop the phone )
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But the moral here? Don't drop the phone )
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yeah... i found that one out the hard way.....
well, i just got my phone back. the statement they included says "no error found".
those goddamn f%$#^&% probably didn't even test it out.
it doesn't act up immediatly, it usually happens after a day or so.
maybe they couldn't find any hardware problems, but i know it's still acting up.
i'll just wait till tomorrow to see when the phone stops working.
Just call them back and point out it is intermittent and often takes 24-48 hours after inserting a SIM for it to fail again. Just keep at them.
yeah i will.... on monday.
if i call now, they'll say "send it to us, and we'll have a look".
they don't work in the weekend, so i might as well wait till monday and have a few days with me precious phone.
i haven't seen it in such a long time, i'm starting to miss it...my precious... ;-)
but on the serious side, i really wander what the problem could be. i just don't understand why it suddenly stops recognizing my simcard.
i'm not able to fix it, but i'm still curious.
Can anybody help me out with this? I've already searched but haven't found a clear cut answer on what to do.
For a while, I've had random events that cause my HTC Evo (running the latest stable release of CM7) cause my phone to suddenly show the "HTC Evo 4G" white screen, then go black and vibrate 5 times while having the green LED on, which never lets me do anything until I pull the battery out and start it up again. It used to only happen when I did specific things, like whenever I tried using Google Goggles at the store (and had to go through all the trouble of disassembling my 3 layer protective case just to pull the battery again). It even happened again yesterday when I was trying to use Goggles on a specific item, but it has happened before in other events since then, like when I was browsing my phone's running applications menu, or even one time when I was simply browsing the internet on it.
I've been taking steps to try and fix it, but I think it's been getting worse. I tried downloading CM7 and Google Apps again to flash on the phone to see if it fixed anything. I tried doing this again, but clearing the data and cache this time. I tried flashing the latest CM Recovery (since I stayed with 2.5.x.x for as long as I could remember), and I'm pretty sure it's gotten worse. There's points where I get to the CM7 boot animation and the phone then does the white screen and five vibrates again, and just a moment ago when I was sure I finally solved it after clearing data and cache, while filling out my Google account info, it happened again and I was greeted once again by that horrendous white screen and the five vibrates.
Now I don't know what to do. I still have S-OFF, but I have no plans to unroot. Can anybody think of suggestions? I've already tried Googling and haven't gotten anything useful enough to help me so far.
EDIT: I guessed it would help if I was a bit more specific. This started happening about two or three weeks ago after I tried using Goggles for the first time in ages. Since then, I've had this issue coming back over and over. It also puzzles me how Goggles usually works completely fine when I'm at home but causes the phone to go black and vibrates 5 times whenever I'm at a store.
Also, right now, I re-downloaded CM7 and Gapps from the CM mirrors instead of simply reusing the ones that ClockworkMod had saved for me already. I hope this somehow makes a difference.
Also, last edit, if I manage to solve this somehow, I'm going to definitely post the answer to what I did in case anybody else out there is having the same issue.
EDIT 2: Welp, re-downloading CM7 and flashing again didn't do anything to fix the problem. I'm going to try another ROM to see if the problem persists. I really want to stay with CM7, though.
Did you wipe everything? Cache and so on ect....?
I wiped everything and I'm still having the issue.
I also caved and I'm going to unroot because the retards over at the Sprint repair center refuse to look at it otherwise. I got my hopes up after hearing on places like XDA or the CM forums about how Sprint didn't care about rooted phones, but I guess the Sprint guys in my area do. I'm currently downloading unrevoked forever son and PC36IMG right now.
I'm just hoping I can get a new Evo after this, because there's a chance I could lose root forever after doing this. But I'm so certain it's a hardware problem.
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I wiped everything and I'm still having the issue.
I also caved and I'm going to unroot because the retards over at the Sprint repair center refuse to look at it otherwise. I got my hopes up after hearing on places like XDA or the CM forums about how Sprint didn't care about rooted phones, but I guess the Sprint guys in my area do. I'm currently downloading unrevoked forever son and PC36IMG right now.
I'm just hoping I can get a new Evo after this, because there's a chance I could lose root forever after doing this. But I'm so certain it's a hardware problem.
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Just curious ....
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I had the same exact issue with my Evo over the past 2 weeks. But I never use Goggles and run MIUI pretty much exclusively. I was never able to fix it and it just got worse. I unrooted and still have the same problems.
I notice it happens on 3g data, I can't remember when it happened on wifi.
I am selling mine back to Sprint tmrw and using my upgrade to get the Nexus S for$50. Then hoping the Evo 3D comes out within 30 days.
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I took it back to Sprint today, and after being treated like a second class citizen for rooting over and over, they managed to somehow fix the random reboots, but have initiated the OTA update for me. Now I'm sitting here with it and it's asking if I should install it now or later.
I'm hesitant because I tried to unroot earlier, and since then, the technician at Sprint said that it wasn't really unrooted or something (I remembered using unrevoked forever last year when I rooted). I'm scared that maybe I'll lose my chance at being able to root again if I accept the update or not. I'm also scared if I won't be able to get full root from here.
EDIT: SON OF A *****. I can't believe this. I applied the OTA update like a good boy and everything, and then the phone starts boot looping randomly again. This is the last straw. I'm going to go back to Sprint tomorrow and be more in-your-face about this problem. I'm through letting them treat me like **** just because I rooted my phone once.
I have a similar problem.....
My problem is random. My phone will go into constant reboot mode until I pull the battery out for 10 minutes. Just pulling the battery and putting it back does not help.
I also noticed that I am losing GPS signal occasionally. It is random too. The GPS will come on and work for about 5 minutes then just lock up. I have to reboot to get it working again and there is no rhyme or reason as to when it will stick (or wont) or how long it will last. It may work for 3 days and then not work a lick for 3 days.
The local Sprint store replaced the back red portion of my phone (the part with the camera lens and kickstand) stating it was an GPS antenna problem. I got 30 secs outside the store and tried the GPS....same problem. I went back into the store and showed them and they tried to convince me I needed AGPS on as well. AGPS always worked but is not as accurate as the satellite GPS. The repair shop refused to do more or order a replacement. I just got scammed out of $35.00 cause nothing is fixed.
I got so pissed, I called Sprint. They were terrific. They refunded the $35.00 the repair center charged me of the repair (the rip-off repair) and agreed to send a replacement phone. Awaiting arrival of the replacement but they are back ordered...so, maybe, I'll get a new phone instead of a refurb.
Long story short...I don't know what is causing your reboots. Mine could not be solved by software changes. My phone was rock solid until around a month ago. Then the GPS dropouts and reboots became more frequent until they became unlivable. I think you have a bad device and would seek replacement.
I had the same problem with mine about a month ago. It happened once about a month before that and then a month ago started happening a lot. I finally narrowed it down to how "hot" it was (body temperature in this case). So basically any time that I was in the car it happened. I was able to unroot (you have to make sure you to s-off on) and put a stock rom on it, and take it in with it happening. They took it for an hour and said they had not seen any issues. I finally convinced them and the replaced it with a refurb. I'm okay as long as it works, but it makes me wonder what happened. When I first got it I used fresh for about a week and then went to CM and was on it the rest of the time. I used an SBC kernel starting around the same time and am thinking maybe that had something to do with it... Just as a precaution I'm staying away from SBC kernels.
If I were you I would just go to the store and get a replacement if you can otherwise if it's like mine you won't be able to count on it working...
Good luck
Hello dear friends!
HTC let me down Kind of stupid phones indeed at least desire...
I have my phone for quite a time now, it is rooted with unrewoked, clockwork recovery and s-on. I flashed many different roms in the past and everything was brilliant. In a pas half-a-year or so I stayed with only one ROM - MIUI-Au. I kept updating it to the newer versions and so on and on. Never had any random reboot or something. At least maybe it was because of some strange app or something else. But now it started to reboot randomly and constantly!
Phone gets hot abit and it just reboots, and never comes to android homescreen again, until I put out the battery, hold it for few minutes, pop it back and then it boots. But as soon as start to play music, or run a game the phone gets hot abit and reboots again. and so on and on. I thought maybe it was a miui issue. So I tried to flash different roms, but guess what? None of the even boot! The main screen shows and with the same second it bootloops again and forever!... (
Even from recovery it sometimes reboots randomly. So i managed somehow to flash my miui back and it at least boots. But it is very unstable now, I barely can use my phone now
PLEASE WHO CAN HELP ME????
My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
What have you set the CPU max to?
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Thank you for response! Appreciate, really!! I didn't set it, I left everything by default I think! Because as i said, i even tried flashing different roms, not only miui.
What else could be? By the way, with stock froyo rom If I remember correctly, sometimes it became extremely hot, but I didnt get any reboots from that. But now, it gets just a little bit hot and it seems that this causes the reboot...
Now what I just noticed, I get reboots even when the phone is idle. And it is not even warm!
If its not getting hot then I'm confused lol. It sounds like a actual hardware fault. Sorry I can't help with this one
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My warranty probably out of date, and my phone is rooted, I dont think HTC would accept it...
any thoughts? friends?
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try and get it taken back to stock if you dare.
The phone hasn't been out 2 years yet, which is how long the warranty is.
Thank you! But is there any possibility to fix it without HTC involvement? Maybe it is not hardware issue ? Can it be because phone is rooted and I flashed many roms to it ? I didnt try AOSP roms since reboots started, I will try to pop in Cyanogenmod or other and see if I will get reboots.
Would rerooting my phone and updating my recovery fix the problem?
and Note: yesterday I tried to S-OFF my phone, but I can't even do that with my unstable MIUI. It rebooted in the middle of the process..
I had a similar problem, apparently it's not uncommon on the early revisions. I sent mine to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Thank you for answer! But what if my phone is bought through a contractor?
Can just call HTC and ask the for repair? Or should I contact my contractor first ?
Just give them a call and they will try to help you out. I had a very good customer service experience with them when my desire had some issues.
They will require a proof of purchase though. If you managed to get the receipt from your "contractor" (I am unsure what you mean by a contractor), then there should be no problem.
Sorry for misleading word, I meant T-Mobile. I bought my phone under contract. I think I have a receipt. I even have whole box and stuff of the phone somewhere in my drawer.(just sayin ). So how is customer service of HTC? Poor, good ? I heard you need to tell them that you did a factory reset and that didn't help. Is that true. Also if I will unroot my phone, will they know it was rooted anyhow?
Ahhh....this overheating issue seems common. How they can release faulty phones?? No clue.
thanks for answers mates!
In Singapore, HTC service is really good. Phone was still under warranty.
It took me just one (real) call to confirm a repair order. The first call I was just checking to see what options were available to me.
The second call was an actual repair request. And the third call was me pestering them for a pickup date. heehee
In Singapore, repairs were done via courier. They picked it up and 1 working day later, they sent it back.
Naturally, you will probably need to impress upon them that you tried everything to fix your phone (which I hope you did which includes proving to yourself that it's not the ROMs fault).
You will definitely need to reset everything back to zero. In my case, I downloaded an RUU to totally reset everything back to STOCK, which included removing clockworkmod recovery. You WILL need to create a goldcard for this though so bear in mind that it's not exactly a case of a simple flashing procedure. At least not if you don't already have a goldcard.
Sorry if I overread it at some point, but you speculated at the beginning there could be some faulty app causing this, but you never meantioned performing a full wipe. Have you full wiped yet? Just to make sure it is indeed no software problem.
greets
Thank you for your answers. At the moment I have SuperNova classic ROM. ( 2.3.3 + Sense 2.1) But my phone crashes again and again, it is so annoying and causes me so much trouble.
I never tried a reset or unroot and return to original rom. Im just wondering now, would this help to remove or at least remove those reboots?
Today I was in my work and i was keeping my phone in my jeans pocket. it got hot as u would expect when keeping in pocket and suddenly it rebooten, then it went into a bootloop and started to bootloop 7 times in a row quickly. then again and again. It became very hot at that time.
For the interest, what exact hardware faults causes these reboots and why phone gets even hotter if you keep it on boot loop. If I keep phone cold, the rom usualy stays normal, without reboots. but as soon as I start using my phone, texting or calling for at least 5minutes of using it just reboots.
as I said- really annoying thing :S
I remember my happy times with miui, apps and no reboots Was fun!
cheers for helping!
I would give full wipe / factory reset a chance, and maybe RUU.
At least try it before sending phone to htc.
It is hardware problem, search forum. Fresh ROM without SD card, enabled WIFI and GPS, running G navigation, back of the phone is warm - restart after few minutes.
Maybe someone know how to read info form the phone right before reset? We could understand why the phone is reseting and hopefully add some patch.
Reboot-loop experience
Hey,
i had the same problem over the last few months: In the beginning my phone restarted only when it got hot, but it got worse over the last few weeks, in the end i was not able to use two apps at the same time (music and mytracks) or even to surf the internet longer than a few minutes. The problem did noticeably decrease when the phone was cool - tested by putting it on a fan or in the fridge. Yet, Skype was regularly killing it. As i really love my phone (and especially the AMOLED-Screen!) i did not want to resign. The battery cover contains some metal which is supposed to enhance heat dissipation - so i attached a little thermal pad to the hotter bottom of the phone to improve contact with the head spreader. Unfortunately it did not entirely fix the problem. Yes, it improved the situation a little, but it got even worse after a week or two - in the end i had to turn it in.
So i decided to take it to the Telekom-Shop. They were very kind and told me they would call the other day to confirm that the replacement would have been shipped. It took a few days longer, but i got a phone with the AMOLED-Screen! The employee said it was a used mainboard in a new case, completely refurbished. They only replaced the main unit, i kept the battery, sd-card, charger and so on. Now i have a working Desire again!
Terminator
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Hi i on the other hand have similar problem, qiute anoying one, my desire, cm7 hboot, s-off, insert coin cm7 rom, have phone freezing in diferent situations, sometimes its working sometimes just freezez and i need to get battery out and turn it one and sometimes several times in row to get it working again???? RUU and go to give phone in service? plaese advice?
@cp6ija Sandisk SD card? If yes, smash it.
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Love the phone but getting kind of sick of this stuff. The phone has been crashing lately, went into a boot loop today that took me at least half an hour to get working again (pulled the sim, sd card and battery till it worked), about 5 minutes ago my phone was on charge and I was sending sms messages using browser texting, and I noticed I hadn't received any replies for a while, so I looked at my phone and noticed it was a phone icon with a red triangle and a red exclamation mark, I pulled the battery and everything booted up like normal, then I went to unlock my phone a minute later and it wasn't responding, but the green notification led was flashing. This is the second phone I've bought, this time with warranty so that's good, I generally really like the phone and I feel if I can fix these weird problems and get the battery life a little better it'll be perfect. Anyone have any ideas? I was thinking of doing a factory restore but I basically just got this phone, and I have so many apps installed (May possibly the problem). I'm running Juice Defender Beta... I think I might try and use Ultimate and not beta and see if that helps the situation, other then that, any ideas guys?
Okay so right now after rebooting my phone again, the phone locked and isn't responding again with the bottom soft keys lit up. This phone is driving me crazy I'm going to uninstall juice defender see if that helps.
Is the phone rooted? If you installed a buggy custom rom it could cause the problems you're seeing.
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jgummeson said:
Is the phone rooted? If you installed a buggy custom rom it could cause the problems you're seeing.
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Thanks for the reply, my phone is completely stock running the 2.3.3 OTA firmware. I uninstalled a few programs, juice defender beta being one of them and everything is working wonderfully now hmmm, besides my poor battery life of course.
Just had another crash while downloading 2 things from the market and now I have the red triangle and exclamation mark thing again..
And now my phone isn't turning on again!. I'm having so much luck with these wonderful devices. What should I do?
the only things, that comes to my mind needs root. root breaks your warranty.
So - i would try factory reset and after this, if it wount help, give it back to the shop for repair.
The red triangle/exclamation mark is stock recovery, you can pull up a menu in it by pressing vol up + power.
Do you get any error messages in that recovery? especially along the lines of:
E: Can't mount cache
If so, it might be a bad emmc chip.
-Nipqer
I didn't see any errors and now the phone wont turn on at all. Looks like I'll have to take it back
Okay so I got a brand new one replaced through warranty, it was the 28th day of the 28 day return period and it was the last one in stock, this one has nothing wrong with the screen which is good. Anyway I was wondering if anyone is willing to bounce ideas off me as to why this has happened to me twice. Bad apps? Juice defender? Custom launcher? (Zeam)? I find it hard to believe this is possible, but it could be.
Definitely don't think it was Zeam. Could just be rotten luck. Perhaps try installing your desired apps one at a time to verify that wasn't the cause. Best of luck.
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Ditamae said:
Definitely don't think it was Zeam. Could just be rotten luck. Perhaps try installing your desired apps one at a time to verify that wasn't the cause. Best of luck.
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Good because I like Zeam . The problem with that is it's pretty much impossible to narrow it down like that, the first one took 3 months to die, second one took 2 weeks, I can't install an app then wait until it dies then determine that's the app that does it.
Don't think it was apps that caused your device to behave like that. Probably just faulty device...
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Don't think it was apps that caused your device to behave like that. Probably just faulty device...
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I think this has to be the case, an app couldn't fry the device like that could it? Even if it was trying to? I just sincerely hope this one isn't faulty... 3rd times the charm . So basically everyone's in agreement I don't have to do anything special just use the device like normal? Some people are saying don't install too many things, while others are saying just use it like normal what do you guys think. I don't think the amount of apps installed would do that, I had plenty of space left on my phone.
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Okay so I got a brand new one replaced through warranty, it was the 28th day of the 28 day return period and it was the last one in stock, this one has nothing wrong with the screen which is good. Anyway I was wondering if anyone is willing to bounce ideas off me as to why this has happened to me twice. Bad apps? Juice defender? Custom launcher? (Zeam)? I find it hard to believe this is possible, but it could be.
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It's probably closer to what Nipqer said with bad EMMC chip. I fully bricked my Desire Z and boy the s--t I did to that phone warranty would have been gone in a few seconds of research. I mean I rooted it, flashed it well over a hundred times. I took it into the HTC repair shop opened up my phone into CWM -- remember if a tech sees CWM -- warranty voided period. I showed him the E:/ can't mount error and he replaced the phone no questions asked. I think this is something that HTC is keeping under wraps instead of doing a massive recall just replacing any unit where this occurs no questions asked. Probably worried about getting a massive class action lawsuit where a judge will force them into doing a recall and giving thier customers a major settlement. Obviously this is only speculation, but I also talked to a good friend who is the west coast business manager for all of Rogers in Canada and he said that every Desire Z that is having problems is getting returned no questions asked, and he said that is completely out of the ordinary for HTC. So my guess something is up and we will never really find out the truth, just count your blessings with this.
Hmm interesting, thanks for your reply gave me something to think about. I guess it makes sense, the phones over a year old and HTC doesn't want to deal with it. I was surprised how quickly and easily I walked out of the Vodafone store with a brand new desire z, tho I've never done it before and it could be standard procedure. Anyway I hope this ones okay, otherwise I'll just take it back again.