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For those of you on the T-Mobile 3G network, what speeds are you getting?
Please list:
- Upstream / Downstream
- Speed test URL
- City, State.
If tethering please note.
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- 26.29KBits / 314Kbits
- dslreports.com/mspeed
- Atlanta, GA.
Not bad in LA, varies by area & traffic
Best today..
-1157 kbit/sec / 320 kbit/sec
-dslreports.com
-Studio City CA (suburb of LA)
I usually average about 760 kbit/sec or so.
Cyph
Tethering with US T-Mobile network.
DL: 1.93MB/S
UL: 0.35 MB/S
Ping: 381ms
Server: Chicago, IL, USA
My Tp2 is tethered right now with my laptop and it is running very fast
alexxxcore said:
Tethering with US T-Mobile network.
DL: 1.93MB/S
UL: 0.35 MB/S
Ping: 381ms
Server: Chicago, IL, USA
My Tp2 is tethered right now with my laptop and it is running very fast
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I had an almost identical report in Atlanta, GA 2 months ago (yes, I had a pre-release).
Duplicate... sorry.
Long Beach California
Im now getting 9.24 mbps but mobilespeedtest is giving me an error when i want to share it.
^^^^^ frickin sick!!
1154 kbit/sec down
dslreports.com/mspeed
Philadelphia, PA
Will test other cities as I go through them
mmafighter077 said:
Long Beach California
Im now getting 9.24 mbps but mobilespeedtest is giving me an error when i want to share it.
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errr, that kind of speed is beyond the limits of 3g.
treo...not! said:
errr, that kind of speed is beyond the limits of 3g.
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No it isn't.
Vodafone UK currently offer 7.2mbps and have started rolling out 14.4 mbps. However as with anything, only certain areas have the updated speeds at the moment.
Hell when BT had an outage in my area i played halo 2 online, using my treo 750 as the modem.
karandras24 said:
No it isn't.
Vodafone UK currently offer 7.2mbps and have started rolling out 14.4 mbps. However as with anything, only certain areas have the updated speeds at the moment.
Hell when BT had an outage in my area i played halo 2 online, using my treo 750 as the modem.
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Since we are going for precision, it's actually 3.5G that's capable of those speeds and those speeds aren't available in the US afaik.See the thread title.
- Upstream / 475 kbit/sec
- www.dslreports.com/mspeed
- Portland, OR
I couldnt get upstream speeds from this site. I may have missed it. I will look again and post later.
I'm not versed in spectrum-talk, so here it goes: Why is it that T-Mobile HSPA+ states peak speeds of 21.6 Mbps, yet the G2 states peak speeds of 14.4 Mbps?
Also, what is the difference between HSDPA+ and HSPA+?
The HSPA+ network is capable of 21 Mbps, but the HSPA+ radio chip in the G2 is only rated at 14.4 Mbps. Currently the only device tmobile has that is capable of 21 Mbps is the web connect rocket.
HSPA = High Speed Packet Acces
HSPA includes both
HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access
and
HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access
HSPA+ = HSPA of 14.4 Mbps or faster (21 Mbps or the next step is 42 Mbps.
joebobjoe said:
I'm not versed in spectrum-talk, so here it goes: Why is it that T-Mobile HSPA+ states peak speeds of 21.6 Mbps, yet the G2 states peak speeds of 14.4 Mbps?
Also, what is the difference between HSDPA+ and HSPA+?
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HSPA+(3.75G) is actually newer and faster than HSDPA+(3.5G). In terms of speed, theoretically HSPA+ can reach speeds of 56Mbit/s while HSDPA+ can reach 21Mbit/s. Though in really the fastest your going to get for HSPA+ is 21.6 Mbps. As for why the G2 14.4 Mbps I have no clue. but its faster then my home internet
mtl171,
Technically HSPA+ consists of HSDPA+ and HSUPA+ just like HSPA contains both HSDPA and HSUPA.
I agree that we are unlikely to see HSPA+ networks faster than 21 Mbps in the U.S., I think carriers including T-Mobile will be investing in LTE before 42 Mbps HSPA+ especially since the speed on 21 Mbps is on par with many home broadband connections.
LTE has more benefits for carriers than just speed.
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Technically HSPA+ consists of HSDPA+ and HSUPA+ just like HSPA contains both HSDPA and HSUPA.
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my bad. forgot about that.
atlp99 said:
I agree that we are unlikely to see HSPA+ networks faster than 21 Mbps in the U.S., I think carriers including T-Mobile will be investing in LTE before 42 Mbps HSPA+ especially since the speed on 21 Mbps is on par with many home broadband connections. LTE has more benefits for carriers than just speed.
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True. though i thought Verizon and AT&T were going for LTE while T-Mobile and Sprint are going with Wi-Max. though i might be mistaken...
Well there are rumors about a merger between Clearwire and T-Mobile.
Anyway, does HSDPA+/HSPA+ rely on MIMO?
Sprint is the only carrier using WiMax
T-Mobile is also going to LTE.
Verizon , ATT, and T-Mobile have all committed to LTE for long term 4G networks.
Sprint is the only one using WiMax, and there is a chance they will switch to LTE also in the long run. Clearwire (which Sprint the majority shareholder) has indicated that their WiMax network could be converted to LTE without much effort.
T-Mobile is deploying HSPA+ currently before deploying LTE.
This makes sense to me, since the speeds of HSPA+ are higher than LTE will be at launch and T-Mobile does not have the network congestion problems that ATT and Verizon have. The biggest advantage of LTE is increased network capacity because of more efficient spectrum usage. I don't think that LTE speeds will pass HSPA+ speeds for at least a couple of years, but LTE has the potential to be faster in the long run.
Verizon is starting to deploy LTE for data cards the end of this year and is rumored to be launching LTE handsets towards the last half of 2011. Depending on the rumors, they may be running behind due to issues with calling over LTE but there are conflicting rumors at this point.
Joebojoe,
HSPA+ running at 42 Mbps and above technology similar to MIMO to download from 2 towers simultaneously.
There are rumors about a Clearwire and T-Mobile partnership. It could make sense for them to partner together for a LTE network roll out, and Clearwire has indicated that it could switch its network over to LTE or run LTE and WiMax.
The other option that has been rumored is that T-Mobile would simply buy some of the excess spectrum that Clearwire has.
Either of those options could make sense, but are just rumors with no real facts to support them. It's fun speculating though.
Thanks for the reply, yet I'm still curious why the G2 is labelled HSPA+ yet only supports 14.4 Mbps. 14.4 Mbps sounds more like HSDPA to me.
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Thanks for the reply, yet I'm still curious why the G2 is labelled HSPA+ yet only supports 14.4 Mbps. 14.4 Mbps sounds more like HSDPA to me.
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idk. design limitations? its still plenty fast. highly doubt people actually get 14.4 Mbps on a HSDPA connection.
Update: its design limitations. According to Qualcomm's website, "MSM7230(proccessor used in G2) support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads"
Like mtl171 posted the 14.4 Mbps speed on the G2 is a limitation of the chipset. I don't think any of the chipsets available for phones HSPA+ at 21 Mbps. The next generation 1.2 and 1.5 Ghz Snapdragon chipsets are supposed to be capable of faster data speeds (if i remember correctly)but they have not reached the market yet.
Joebobjoe,
HSPA and HSPA+ are basically versions of the same technology Hspa+ is the newest iteration. The main difference is the speed.
Please explain... if there are chipsets that support it for the usb dongle, why can't the same thing work on a phone? Have they just not made the chipset small enough for a phone yet?
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Please explain... if there are chipsets that support it for the usb dongle, why can't the same thing work on a phone? Have they just not made the chipset small enough for a phone yet?
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patience young one the geniuses at qualcomm are working on this. meanwhile we just need to patiently wait a year or so for them to release it
Aren't those chipsets coming out in January?
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Aren't those chipsets coming out in January?
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to tell you the truth, i don't know. but my guess is phones released next year should support it.
Last I heard the 1.2 Ghz Snapdragon chipsets should be released to handset manufacturers late this year or early next year. Then add a couple of months for manufacturers to get handsets built with them, so probably late Q1 for those handsets to get market
rpmccormick,
The chipset in the usb dongle only has to transmit data, it does not have support the other functions of a phone (O.S., wifi, Bluetooth, screen, audio, video, power management, etc..), plus since the usb pulls power from your computer so power management is not as important. The usb dongle uses a much simpler chipset, that only has to transmit data while your computer handles everything else.
atlp99 said:
Last I heard the 1.2 Ghz Snapdragon chipsets should be released to handset manufacturers late this year or early next year. Then add a couple of months for manufacturers to get handsets built with them, so probably late Q1 for those handsets to get market.
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1.2 ghz early next year. 1.5 dualcore Q4 next year.
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/is-qualcomm-and-htc-in-trouble-with-their-dual-core-processors/
Bringing this back since its relavant now....
So just found out about the new Samsung Galaxy S 4g with the new chipsets that give 21+ theroetical speeds....
I am a VERY VERY angry G2 owner who while loves my phone am very upset to find that I will be getting much less speeds out of their network labeled the SAME on both devices. I think this was a VERY deceiving move and hope that with enough complaints we can get some sort of retribution like lower data plan price or what not (the what not are better solutions like a free upgrade but i know those things dont happen as easy)
The only hope is that it can be updated to use 21+ from 14+ but this is HIGHLY unlikely.
Im curious to see what others think of this?
EDIT: this is a smart forum so lets not discuss the fact that not all areas will have that speed and just pretend that im in a market that already is pushing that when using one of those usb sticks..
no6969el said:
So just found out about the new Samsung Galaxy S 4g with the new chipsets that give 21+ theroetical speeds....
I am a VERY VERY angry G2 owner who while loves my phone am very upset to find that I will be getting much less speeds out of their network labeled the SAME on both devices. I think this was a VERY deceiving move and hope that with enough complaints we can get some sort of retribution like lower data plan price or what not (the what not are better solutions like a free upgrade but i know those things dont happen as easy)
The only hope is that it can be updated to use 21+ from 14+ but this is HIGHLY unlikely.
Im curious to see what others think of this?
EDIT: this is a smart forum so lets not discuss the fact that not all areas will have that speed and just pretend that im in a market that already is pushing that when using one of those usb sticks..
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. If you had a 4G galaxy s side by side with a G2 the galaxy s would very rarely achieve higher speeds. The G2 is a high end android phone that will not be obsolete anytime soon. You could always hold out for the next great phone but no matter what there will always be something better in a few months.
You should be happy about your decision to buy a G2 because its a fast, solid device and still the best phone in Tmo's lineup.
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Seriously you are getting that upset? Why do people get so uptight about so many things? Like the previous poster stated, real world is different. But technology moves forward, it doesn't stop for anyone. Life is much more difficult then getting one or two mbps less then another phone. I would be more upset if we never get a gingerbread update (yeah I know I would never use it seeing as I'm a xda member running cm7) simply because of principal. The whole vibrant fiasco would have me really ticked. It wasn't until people really started calling it out and got really loud did things really happen.
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i spoke to a guy at ATT the other day and he told me that theyre going to be releasing a new wp7 for att in late march/ early april...
its supposed to be 4g the whole 9 yards i guess..
has anybody else heard of this or have any details on it??
im running 2g on an unlocked tmobile hd7 and its be good to have a similiar phone running on H+ or at least 3g
Haven't heard anything myself. If they do, I just hope its an HTC solid body.
I read a rumor on a site(WMpower?) that the hd7 may be coming. Don't know if that would help you out though
Well.... the focus can do 4g speeds right now they just have it throttled down by default. So technically ATT already has a wp7 4g phone.
Focus 4G speed settings
I can tell you this much... Both my wife and I have the focus and after I applied the changes I was getting speeds on mobile speed test roughly 2 times faster then she was.... I was getting speeds between 2000 kbps (just under what they have 4G speeds at) and around 3000 kbps or more (well over what they have listed as 4G)
I just did a speed test a second ago and I'm at 2336 kbps.. my wife's is under 1000... same place.. same phone... way WAY different speeds
Aaron McCarthy said:
Well.... the focus can do 4g speeds right now they just have it throttled down by default. So technically ATT already has a wp7 4g phone.
Focus 4G speed settings
I can tell you this much... Both my wife and I have the focus and after I applied the changes I was getting speeds on mobile speed test roughly 2 times faster then she was.... I was getting speeds between 2000 kbps (just under what they have 4G speeds at) and around 3000 kbps or more (well over what they have listed as 4G)
I just did a speed test a second ago and I'm at 2336 kbps.. my wife's is under 1000... same place.. same phone... way WAY different speeds
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That's a bit misleading. The specs on the Samsung Focus state that it has HSDPA and HSUPA support, which equate to HSPA when both are enabled.
4G is considered to be LTE or WiMax (and even still, those technologies are considered pre-4G). The problem is that T-Mobile is marketing their HSPA+ network as a 4G network. Currently, Sprint has a 4G roadmap using Clear's WiMax network. Verizon has already begun building out their LTE network. AT&T is wrapping up their HSPA+ rollout before they begin on the LTE network. Since they are late in the marketing game, AT&T has gone to T-Mobile's level and marketed their HSPA+ network as 4G.
Ultimately, out of the 4 carriers above, T-Mobile will shoot themselves in the foot by not having a true 4G rollout plan and relying on marketing their HSPA+ network as 4G.
Bottomline -- Samsung Focus supports HSPA, not HSPA+ or LTE.
Michael.
For what its worth did a little download test about 10 sites.
Cleared cache. Both had very good signal. I'm on 4G of course.All browser settings identical.
And...yep...Epic was faster 9 out of 10 sites, usually by quite a bit.
And I'm no 'Homer'...actually pushed TMobile a split sec faster to make sure.!
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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I'd rather get that kind of 3g speed then have 4g IMO. 4g kills the battery
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WOW, 2.3 down on 3G
id take that any day over 4G, especially if it was consistent
but im not complaining I can pull 3 down in my office, and 2 down in my house...just have to stay still lol
it kills the battery, but my 3G is in the 300K range---
in the dallas area 3g speeds suck all around ... limited to 300 500kbps
4g is awesome u get 2 3mbits easy
Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
Yeah I don't know what's happened to 3G here.
When I had the Evo 4G...Chicago had a big surge here...like AVERAGING 2500kbps on 3g.
Was poorer on the Evo 3D days but not too bad.
Now (with Epic) it averages 600 or so here.
All I can say is....if there is a surge of IPhone buyers coming in they are going to.be monumentally dissapointed in data speeds!
Whatya thinkin Sprint?
I remain on 4G here...(have a MiFi unit in my bag which helps!). Almost always run 4M average on either 4G or WiFi MiFi.
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You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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Holy crap I wish I could just get 3000mbps on any ISP or phone. can you imagine No Lag, streaming instant.
Hell just going to click on anything on the website would seem to just pop up on screen as if the computer read my mind.
I used to be on att I had a Motorola atrix and ranged 3.5 to 6mb download.
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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Troll alert!! Troll alert!! A troll has escaped, please do not feed the trolls! They are unhappy with life not you.
dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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I think I literally have a tower in my back yard.
Edit: when my Comcast goes out, I use the phone for tether on xbox and it streams in 720p lol!
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Ok Einstein....never said it reflected GLOBALLY. Why so irritated?!
It WAS a data transfer test of Wimax vs TMobile HSDP++ of 10 sites I use for 'testing'. Connected to respected networks...not Wifi. (WiFi isn't a network test).
Both had superb signal strength. Both with identical browser conditions.
I suspect if I took both deep inside a building Wimax would not fair as well.
U OK now?
LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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what speeds are you getting? I'm on T-mobile sgs2 n get constant 10mbps n peak at 18 at sacramento CA area
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Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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irrelevelant
LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dont like your approach, but totally agree with the message. There are places where tmobile is faster on 3g/4g and vice versa. Not a fair comparison.
Put them both on the same wifi hotspot and then run some tests
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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I'm pretty sure I seen 20Mbs a couple times on wifi
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My cuzing showed me 20mbps speed test on that dual core LG phone on T-Mobile. Seems like double our 4g...
I was in ATT today speedtesting my Galaxy Note 4G+ vs Skyrocket LTE.
Skyrocket avg'd 12M Note avged 7M.
Then Dually downloaded Gizmodo, and howardforums etc (bout 10 different sites).... and Note downloaded those sites slightly faster than Skyrocket. Also downloaded a 250+ file and same result.
The LTE speedtests are a crock vs real world performance. Who cares......less you just get off on speedtest app contests.
Edit... Both devices on ATT network. Wifi testing:Note was better by more.
So what kind of download speeds are you getting? I'm sad to report my iPhone 3GS downloads faster than this phone where I live. This thread is my hope to reach out to the world and see that the phones can download faster than 1.5 mbps.
Thank you all!
Uh yeah,
I'm not in a 4G LTE area, but my "4G" HSPA+ speeds are depressing too, but not quite that bad.
I'm at 3mb down and 1mb up, which is still a joke for a 21.1mbps HSPA+ device.
20.56 mb down 8mb up LTE dallas
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22.28 Mbps down; 3.28 Mbps up - New York, NY- 258 ms (Dist-2.30 mi)
10.84 Mbps down; 6.54 Mbps up; LTE Washington, DC
19.5 down and 5.8 up on LTE Atlanta area.
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how may i test my speeds?
please advise
thank you
Bandwidth App
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/bd5202c2-c401-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
16.8/7.1 in an elevator in Seattle....I'll try again outside.
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nevermind
Instead of an app, try visiting:
1. mobilespeedtest.com
OR
2. Geekaphone.com
Here are my scores in Columbus, OH 4G HSPA+ 1: 14425kbps 2: 1695kbps
14.0/4.65 LTE Las Vegas
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15.56 dn 3.00 up with 140 ms on LTE West Los Angeles
18.29/down 5.01/up over LTE - 11.15/down 4.98/up over 4G - Orlando.
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Oakville, ON - CA D: 20.38 Mbps U: 5.51 Mbps Latency: 174 Network: ROGERS Using BandWidth.
It's weird, my SGII Skyrocket got around 20mbps and this phone only gets 3-4. I think AT&T does funny things with the data profiles.
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Outside
22/6.5
is that ok?
22.69 down/ 4.98 up - LTE Houston, TX
Depends.... at my job in the Financial District in NYC I get ~15mbps down/4 up on LTE.
At my apartment in Brooklyn, I get ~21mbps down/6 up.
Go fig.
So why is it I used to get 20MBPS with my GSII but with this phone I'm lucky to get 4? Should I factory reset?