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SENSE UI or NO SENSE?

I have been using sense ui virt rom.
I loved it but noticed a bit of lost of speed when I flashed cyanogen v7.
Cyanogen was really fast for me compared to virt. rom.
What do u guys prefer?
Idk which one I shud stick too.
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Cyanogen
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xandermpls said:
Cyanogen
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I wud prefer cyanogen too but the video app can't touch focus.
And I use video a lot...
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Well sense is slower due to the fact its "packed". Well I really like sense, it looks really good. Love the wigets the most but I like cyan more because.... umm I just like it better lol.
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Sense widgets aren't as fast, but I do love the Sense clock app, the Sense clock widget, contacts widget and photo gallery widget.
the calendar widget is very laggy compared to Launcher Pro, and the actual dock/launcher bar at the bottom is a very wasteful way to use precious screen real estate. I mean - who really needs such a large button for the phone?
Launcher Pro/ADW Ex and other launchers make it really easy to save screen space by having scrollable launcher/docks...but with Sense it just wastes space.
I am using a GingerVillain ROM with ADW Ex and it works pretty well. But I am missing some of those Sense apps/widgets!

cyanogenmod is faster ,has better battery life,its more up to date and is more customizable.
sense/virtouos has much better apps and widgets such as camera,contacts,keyboard,phone,etc...
it really comes down to personal preferences.
I personally have set them both exactly the way i like and installed all the
apps that i need on them and made a back up so i regulary change between
them whenever i feel like it.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.

chobie said:
I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.
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Is there a camera app like sense on the market? I'm missing the touch to focus.
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Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.

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Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.
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What do u think about the speed on virtuous vs cyonagen
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CM is definitely faster, mainly because its built for that, specifically. Sense is built to give a better user experience. Apples and Oranges. With the stock Virtuous kernel, I don't notice a significant speed difference vs CM.
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Without sense. No question.
From my permarooted overclocked HTC G2 with cyanogen 7 nightly via XDA app

Is there any way to get the alarm clock to put a notification in the notification bar on the Sense UI like it does in the Vanilla ROMs? Everytime I hit snooze I wonder if I hit the right button. I'm currently using Virtuous v1.0.0 for the G2/DZ.

I like the sense over the "vanilla" the G2 came with. I've been using virtuous since the day it came out and have loved it. I haven't used CM but I' am comfortable with sense

i currently use MIUI but i loved sense when i used it the only thing i didint like was that you couldnt get it to not autocap , i know it sounds stupid but its really one of my pet pev's , i switch back and forth from now & again but does anyone know how to make it so it doesent autocap on sense virtu rom ?

aad4321 said:
only 1 thing i love about sense. CAMERA!
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thats exactly why i staied with Virtuous Rom.
i would go to CM but the camera app sucks..

[Q] Stock gingerbread launcher.

Please tell me why people like it? It has 3 non changable icons that stay one color and looks like its out of place compared to the rest of a home screen setup.
Just wondering whats so great about it? Am i missing something?
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different strokes for different folks.

It gives more of a stock feeling than ADW. And the trashcan is on the bottom dock, the only reasons I used it, then I moved to ADW for honeybread
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I actually think it looks a bit better than adw. It gives more of a clean look.
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Because the app drawer is the best app drawer of all of them! Especially with a phone with good graphics!
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Isn't the same effect app drawer available on adw and lppro?
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Well gb launcher2 is just so much smoother then adw or lp. Home screen scrolling is buttery smooth, and the transition for opening the app drawer is much nicer then the other two. The app drawer cube effect shows 5 rows in the fold compared to the others. Now that I can use themes in CM7 without adw, I use it.

And in the stock launcher the apps in the drawer "bounce" much smoother than LP, not as laggy

I believe i read somewhere on here that the stock launcher is hardware accelerated. That is why is runs faster and smoother.
I personally prefer anything stock. Stock apps seem, to me at least, to be smaller and faster. Try to keep the fluff to a minimum.

I love stock anything! My Nexus One made me love the 3D app drawer, and on my G2, its only smoother! I can't wait to see how smooth a stock dual core Android 2.4 phone from Google is gonna be! The G2x is a good example, however it will be froyo, meaning not fully dual core compatible like 2.4 will be! My guess....Nexus X by Motorola! I can wish, can't I??
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I just love that stock vanilla google experience...same when ICS, Jellybean drop...ill stick to stock...no overlays or launchers for me...BTW is there a zip I can flash for the gingerbread launcher over adw in CM7..? (There was one for NS)
Edit: I know there's a couple in the market but those aren't as smooth as the ones in NS Development...
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http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-launcher-in-cm7-on-htc-desire-z-t-mobile-g2/
You can get it from there, worked very well for me.
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I flashed the dark launcher zip I used to have for my nexus and its working just fine but ill try this one also...thx
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thomas_wlc how did you make this launcher work very well on cm7? i flashed it and its just as laggy as adw (switching between homescreens)

shadal said:
thomas_wlc how did you make this launcher work very well on cm7? i flashed it and its just as laggy as adw (switching between homescreens)
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Hey,
I really didn't have to do anything but flash it. I flashed this over the ILWT cm7 rom and it just worked right out of the box (on 187b as well as 204).
I wouldn't know how to improve the performance of the launcher, except for common guesses such as reflashing/wiping and such.
Maybe it's just a different understanding of what "working really well" means. I never did get it to work perfectly buttery smooth, a very tiny lag always remained (even though it was running a lot better than adw).

Make your phone look nice without root?

Hey, just read the topic and please give me some names of apps that you can buy from Android market to customize your phone
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go launcher,balancer,pro launcher............

Some launchers

I want a really clean and fresh theme. Anyone?
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no way, sir

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Hey, just read the topic and please give me some names of apps that you can buy from Android market to customize your phone
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have a good search on the market yourself would be the best option for you. there are literally thousands of different options for you. but customisation is relatively limited for non rooted phones, live wallpapers and HTC themes, avaliable though HTC built in Sense Themes.
with certain roms, they take on the T-Mobile theme system what utilises much more themes to download and customise. launchers only make changes to your main screen and application list, icons as such a limited.

adw launcher, launcher pro, helix launcher

Re. Make your phone look nice without root...
This might raise some hackles, but in my opinion, when it comes to the aesthetics between rooted and stock phones, there isn't usually a drastic difference. You can get a stock ROM looking really great. I run LauncherPro Plus on CM7.1, but to be honest the cosmetic difference between that and running it on stock Froyo is fairly minor, to the, uhm, passerby. *hides*

Thanks this helps alot

An here are also some nice Themes for Sense 2.0: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801928 and Sense 2.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048894

Launcher pro is a good one. You should check it out

Turn off sense?

I'm getting really tired of HTC Sense, and I don't really want to mess around with launchers at the moment. I'm wanting to basically disable Sense and revert it to the basic android look. Anyone know if this is possible on and unrooted Evo 4G running 2.3.3? And if not, is there a really good launcher that will imitate that look?

well to start, if you "turn off" sense you will need a launcher. Launcher 2 would look the most like what i think you are looking for. just remove all widgets from homescreens on sense and select that launcher as the default.
or
you could flash one of these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092221
they have most of sense removed.
or
try an aosp rom

I second Launcher2. I was never a fan of the bloatware we know as sense.
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I tried looking up Launcher 2 in the market, but i couldnt find it.

Yea me too. Try Gingerbread Launcher free or Android 2.3 Launcher (Home).
Alternatives are ADW, Go Launcher and Launcher Pro. There are also themes for the launchers to customize them further.
The following are themes to make the launchers look more like stock gingerbread
ADW - here or here
Go Launcher - only found 1 theme but had bad reviews
Launcher Pro - here
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I'd recommend Launcher Pro, there are tons of free themes for it and you can customize almost everything. Both Launcher Pro and ADW are both good, I would try both (they are free in the market) and see which one you like better. I used sense exclusively until I found Launcher Pro, I preferred it over ADW. If you want to completely get rid of sense, then the only option is to root and check out the senseless ROMs that are posted in the development section, or the AOSP ROMs.

Edit: I didn't fully read the post lol
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HTC phones. Sense or AOSP after root?

So just kinda wanted to see what the general consensus here is. I personally love sense and would hate to run aosp on my HTC, but I'm seeing a lot of stock android love more and more it seems.
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AOSP ROM all the way for me. Its all personal preference really. I got the one for its HW specs not SW. Sense isn't purr enough for me yet its still come a long way.
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I like sense 5 but I am over it. I much prefer the aosp look and how much I can customize it. I will flashing pac or carbon if it is ported to our phone.

Once I have s-off... Bye bye sense!
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I'll be going Sense-less as soon as possible. This is mainly because all of the ROMs I'm interested in and have used on other phones lack sense and are mostly ASOP, not because I dislike Sense. Sense isn't terrible in and of itself, the stock Sense ROM just doesn't offer enough features to make it worth-while.

AOSP / Sense-less GPE
I love the stock google lockscreen, but I hate how now that I did the 'hack' for getting rid of sense lockscreen without root, I cant see who's calling until I unlock the phone...

Apparently I'm among the minority so far. I prefer Sense, but modified along the lines of TeamVenom's Viper ROM. So many tweaks and adjustments. It's clearly still Sense, but definitely changed.

I'm with you on Sense icedragon, I ran aosp for a long time on the tbolt and loved it but im really liking Sense 5. So I'll probably be keeping sense especially if Santod or Virus make a sense rom
Edit: or newt, I can't believe I almost forgot about him. The sense 4 port he did for the tbolt was really good
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I actually like sense but I would Prefer the AOSP lock screen. But being new to android I don't really know what kind of roms are out there.
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Definitely leaning toward AOSP since I've used stock android phones (gnex, and before that -- droid 1). Sense I like using Zoe, blinkfeed, and am curious to see what customized sense roms have to offer

I ran AOSP/CM on my GS3 for a few months, but have liked Sense quite a bit so far. Just a few features I miss, namely the ability to switch between notifications and quick settings by swiping the bottom bar (where VZW is listed). Saved a fair amount of time, oddly enough.

I've tried both and keep coming back to Sense for Zoe, the stock Sense gallery (looks more beautiful and alive to me) and Blinkfeed. If they could be incorporated into Beanstalk or maybe PAC man, that might draw me away.
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Sense 5 is the first time ever that I actually LIKE Sense.

I love CyanogenMod but can't stand the crappy radios as of now.

I like sense five, but I liked it more with the original pull down lockscreen I had on my evo honestly. Never a huge fan of the aosp lockscreen. Especially before ics
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cesium said:
I ran AOSP/CM on my GS3 for a few months, but have liked Sense quite a bit so far. Just a few features I miss, namely the ability to switch between notifications and quick settings by swiping the bottom bar (where VZW is listed). Saved a fair amount of time, oddly enough.
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Or you can two finger swipe from the top to get straight to the quick settings.
Personally will be sticking with sense roms. Every aosp rom I've used, something was either broken or wonky because they had to hack it to get it to work at all. And I'm digging zoe.
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I have used AOSP for the last couple years. It is nice to have a rom with zero bugs and still runs fast and has good features. I will probably stick with sense roms for stability unless I see some really cool things come out for AOSP.
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I am already running a custom launcher and Widget Locker for the lock screen so I will probably jump from a Sense rom as soon as it is possible, or at the very least freeze a bunch of the apps that I am not using.
The Camera and Gallery are the only couple I may keep in the long run. Blinkfeed is nice but I cannot add it to a different launcher so it is a bit useless to me at the moment.

What's wrong with the radios on AOSP? I too will be deciding between Sense and AOSP.
I love HTC devices for the reliable signal reception. I don't want to sacrifice that.

calash said:
The Camera and Gallery are the only couple I may keep in the long run. Blinkfeed is nice but I cannot add it to a different launcher so it is a bit useless to me at the moment.
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Zoe and the HTC gallery won't work on non-Sense based roms (including 4.3 GPE roms). You can still use custom launchers with Blinkfeed in one of two ways. If the launcher allows you to set up shortcuts on your home screen (Nova I think allows this but others do as well), you can set up a shortcut to the Sense launcher and just delete the other pages, leaving just Blinkfeed. Also if you are rooted, you can download the MoDaCo Toolbox and in there it will allow you to create a Blinkfeed "app" that takes you to your Blinkfeed.
Have your cake and eat it too.
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