My issue is that When I am using the phone, normally on dolphin or else a chan viewer, my phone will just turn off. Like the battery died. My phone would have somewhere between a 70-20% charge. Most the time it is above 50%. I will power the phone on and it will say I have 1-3% charge left then shut off normally after.
If I plug it into a charger after that and boot it up (or pull the battery then on a charger and boot it up) the phone will come up fine and say I have 70-20% left. Just depends on where it was at before it shutdown. I can look at my battery usage when it comes up and you can see it go from say 60% to 2% after reboot, then back to 60% once I get it back up. There will be gaps in the usage.
I am currently on Shooter with the freedom kernal. I was on chop suey. I have not reimaged my rom, but I have reinstalled the kernal. I have tried to calibrate my battery and wiped the battery info.
Also my phone charges really slow now too. It can take 20-30 mins to go 5% at times.
I think I just need a new battery.
I think you're right
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Does anyone have a link for the thread that discussed the correct way to wipe battery stats when upgrading to a new Rom? I remember it went something like drain dead, charge to full, drain dead again then charge to full and wipe stats. I can't remember the complete process. Thanks for the help.
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I've seen a couple different threads on that here, one saying discharge fully then charge while powered off, and the other saying to do a full charge "conditioning cycle". I did the latter and it seems to have made a difference.
Here's what I did:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I am using Amon Ra recovery which has the wipe battery stats option under the Wipe option. I never did this when I had Clockwork recovery installed, so I don't know if the option is in the same place.
Being an electrical engineer, I find this business of battery conditioning interesting, along with the Ni-Cd "memory" vs. Li-Ion "no memory" issue. If anyone has found a decent physics-based explanation as to why these things do or do not have any basis in fact, I'd appreciate a link. Yes, I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment.
Hmm, I may have to look into this again. I charged my phone all night (powered off) and unplugged it this morning. I did nothing with it this morning but turn it on and look at it, then put it in standby (quick press of power button). It lost 16% of charge in less than 2 hours!
I'm running BS1.2 with the Baked1 (low voltage/best battery) kernel.
Damn, just installed System Panel and found that my CPU is at 100% constantly!
I'm trying this now. The longest I've pushed my battery was 22 hours... and that was with 39 minutes of screen on time, lol. In standby almost the entire 22 hours....
Ok, I believe my issue was related to a camcorder problem, my CPU usage has dropped back to normal levels after fixing that separate problem. After my battery recharges fully I will see what happens with the charge.
the other methods to do "calibrate your battery" (which isnt really calibrating the battery but the battery stats of the phone so it can accuratly judge when it stops and starts charging)
1) charge the phone to full
2) unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
3) charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
this should reset the battery stats.
the last method is one from HTC
1)Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
2) turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
3) turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
all 3 methods listed should help. I personally dont like the x10 method because it has the potential and basically over charges the battery to make sure it is acctually at a full charge. It is much faster then the other 2 methods though so to each there own.
Dont waste your time on...
plug/unplug 10 times. It really doesn't recal the battery.
the unplug/plug 10 times.
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
You are good to go!
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
fldash said:
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
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the evo doesnt do a trickle charge so when the light turns green it stops, this is why you will almost always drop 1-5% battery rather quickly.
Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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There's a lot of confusion over how the battery / charging circuit works and how it reports. My advice is to just charge until it's green and full, then unplug it. If you leave it plugged in all night, unplug it for 10 mins in the morning, then plug it back in to top off.
That doesn't really help me SilverZero, my question is only if leaving it tethered (which means connected to USB) is bad for my battery.
Well on mine i would check it every once in awhile and i would see that once it get downs to under 90% that it would charge again till it recognized that it was full again. So based on that i dont think you should have to worry about it. It seems to only draw the charge when needed. I also leave mine plugged in alot when im home so its good to go when i leave and havent noticed a loss of battery life at all.
You guys don't want the charger to trickle charge. Li-Ion does not accept overcharge, even 0.01C (15 mA on the stock Evo battery) will cause it to vent and probably combust.
So does "calibrating the battery" calibrate the phone or the actual battery?
I ask because I have 3 spare batteries, wondering if I have to do this for each of them??? They are all standard size, one of them OEM
So, I'm on my Evo today, playing a game (Air Strike). My battery is at 93% when I picked the phone up to play, and the phone is plugged in. Suddenly, with no warning what-so-ever, my phone shuts off. Of course a mini-freak out and many "wtf's" ensue. No warning, no signs, even the led went off. I pulled the battery, put it back, then plugged the phone in again. After that it gave me the blinking light indicating the battery was too low to turn on. After a few minutes charging she came back on and battery was at 5%.
How the hell does a battery go from 93% to 0% in less than 5 minutes, and give no warning at all?? Anybody else ever have this problem?
Wow I've have never heard or that happening before. Maybe a glitch in the battery stash? Did it take awhile to charge up to 100%? Can you reproduce the issue again?
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I had this problem with my older phone once. The battery itself may have a problem or your phone is not getting charged properly.
Try These :
1) Try charging the phone overnite from the Wall charger (Not through USB of your computer)
2) If the above does not work, and you have access to another evo battery, then try using that.(try using a friends battery and charger for a day. ) (Ofcourse needless to say the charger and battery must be for Evoonly )
In my case, my phone started working fine again after getting my battery & charger replaced.
Probably shouldn't worry about it too much just yet. Could be something as simple as your battery meter was mis-calibrated. The meter itself is software so it can easily be wrong/off. If it continues you may have a bad battery.
Sounds to me like something is wrong. Did you just get the phone or have you had it?
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
Mark_Hardware said:
Idk... The phone had been plugged in for most of the day (hadn't gone anywhere. Lazy day lol) And like I said, the led went completely out as well.
Haven't had the problem again, so we'll see I guess....
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I've seen some posts about the Evo battery shutting off the charge when its being used. Were you using your Evo while it was charging?
If the battery doesn't seem to be giving you percentages that are accurate, you might want to recalibrate your battery.
Common misconceptions sticky (Evo Q&A) said:
Battery recalibration (Thanks to Cyanogen for this and to fachadick for bringing it to my attention).
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
1. Charge the phone to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
2. Boot to recovery and wipe battery stats.
(To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the phone immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for your ROM to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the phone, go ahead and pull the charger and continue.)
3. Do not charge the phone until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off. Take out the battery, and keep trying to turn on your phone until it will not turn back on at all.
4. Recharge the phone completely and then use as you normally would.
This is a method that has been proven to work, I am sure there are other ways. My battery lasts longer after doing this and the reading is much more accurate. It might be advisable to do this after every ROM install if you want the most battery life and most accurate battery reading by the phone's software.
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This morning after I got ready I took my phone off the charger (it had been charging all night and was at 100%) and walked upstairs. About 10 minutes later I turned on the phone and it was at 67% and going down. I had flashed a new rom yesterday and as quick as I could I did during the drain I did a NAND restore. Could this have been actual battery drain or is there something wrong with my phone/stats. Could my phone have stopped charging at 50% and then just said it was 100%? What should I do? Is there anyway to avoid this from happening again?! I cant go to work with a battery at 50%! lol
-.- Searching is your friend.
The Evo has never trickle charged properly. Trickle charging is when you hit 100% battery while charging and the phone will continue to keep the battery charging and maintain this 100%. So 100% > 99% > 100%.
The problem is the Evo doesn't do this. Once it hits 100%, it switches to battery. It will run off the battery till it hits about 90% and then charge again. Some even say it will NEVER charge again after it hits 100%. So when you unplug it in the morning, you end up dropping extremely fast from 100% to 90%.
There are kernels in the development section that fix this issue but there are people who say it will break your phone or burn your battery out faster over time. When trickle charging, your phone will get hot as its constantly draining and charging. That can lead to a burned out battery as time goes on or a damaged phone. I personally have three batteries. I still tried to use this and noticed a drastic improvement but my phone was also pretty warm when I picked it up in the morning. Its up to you.
Also you might want to see if you have your 4G radio on. That is probably the only thing I can think of that would drain it that fast. Either that or your GPS is on and theres an app running thats using the GPS receiver.
i'd say a 30% drain in 10 minutes is unnatural. it wouldnt be myns rls4 that you flashed, would it? this is experianced by some as a "first day side effect". just fully drain and fully charge the battery a few times and you will be fine.
It could be that it just needs a couple drains and I don't want to quickly point the finger at an app that you are using. A lot of times if I actually charge my phone it will be on 92% when I wake up. 67% is a stretch unless that was 10 minutes of a game or YouTube..but still. Drain the battery a few times and see what happens.
i was thinking maybe its some kind of battery stats problem? Could that have caused it?
OK so here is the deal.
I did the battery calibration of charging to 100 and then wipe the battery stats and then fully deplete. The following day I wanted to drain it even further down so after the phone hit zero and shut down. I then plugged it into a usb just long enough to get into recovery and then immediately unplugged it from the usb (10-15 seconds.) I just left it sitting there in recovery for AN HOUR before it shut off on it's own. I am wondering why there is that much power still left in the batteries and yet the phone still shuts down? Is there a reason the phone needs to keep that much of a reserve?
Thanks!
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OK so here is the deal.
I did the battery calibration of charging to 100 and then wipe the battery stats and then fully deplete. The following day I wanted to drain it even further down so after the phone hit zero and shut down. I then plugged it into a usb just long enough to get into recovery and then immediately unplugged it from the usb (10-15 seconds.) I just left it sitting there in recovery for AN HOUR before it shut off on it's own. I am wondering why there is that much power still left in the batteries and yet the phone still shuts down? Is there a reason the phone needs to keep that much of a reserve?
Thanks!
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Well, draining a modern lithium ion battery completely is detrimental to it's lifespan, so... yes, there is a reason for the reserve.
So I updated my phone tonight and after it used 30% in an hour or so. All I was doing was using FB on it. Prior I played PAD for 15 minutes and it hardly used 5%. I've wiped cache, cleared app cache, and now I'm working on a full discharge from 100%. The battery is brand new and it was getting better life prior to the upgrade. So much for 3x better battery I guess?
After clearing caches I left it idle ofer night. It used 13% for 20 minutes of screen time. and then it used 3% idle over the 5 hours I slept. Still seems a bit high on usage for screen time but idle is great.
So I discharged it completely and now its losing power fast again. The battery was 100% unplugged it and turned it on and its 97%. So I turned it back off and checked it and its also showing 97%. Charge it back to 100%, turn it on, its on 100% but loses 1% in a second. Plugged it in while onand it took like 3 minutes to charge that last 1%/ No idea why. The battery is brand new and got 2 or 3 days on idle before, now it reports 20 hours. what happened to that 3x better battery? What else can I do to sync the battery properly? I also noticed 100% is not 100% until the phone tells me battery is charged.
Again this battery is brand new and my life with 5.1.1 was pretty good.
I've been having poor battery calibrations in EPH7, though my battery is still what came with the phone.
There are days I can get to about 5? left before the phone dies, and there are days it dies at 15?..
Already tried charging all the way till full while the phone was off, still the same. It's random, but I just generally expect the phone to turn off as I come close to 15?.
boofman said:
I've been having poor battery calibrations in EPH7, though my battery is still what came with the phone.
There are days I can get to about 5? left before the phone dies, and there are days it dies at 15?..
Already tried charging all the way till full while the phone was off, still the same. It's random, but I just generally expect the phone to turn off as I come close to 15?.
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That sounds like a bad battery. I can get my phone to drain down to 0% before it dies, but the battery usage can be erratic.
After some testingm the first 5% (95-100%) does down fast but after that it can go a pretty good while. Not sure why. I left the screen on with max brightness, turned on NFC/wifi/bluetooth and just left tons of apps running and it took 4-5 hours to get the battery down to 20%. the life is in fact great just not properly synced. No root makes it more of a pain to calibrate.
So I charged the battery offline and it got to 100%. I switched it on and it shows 97%. What the hell has marshmallow done to my note?
last post. If I charge the phone formt he OS it reaches 100% seemingly properly and doesn't discharge quickly. Not sure what marshmallow screwed up.
I had the same issue with my battery draining quickly after the upgrade. I backed up all of my data and then performed a master rest of the phone and then went into recovery and cleared cache as well. Once it booted back up I reloaded all of my apps and reconfigured all my accounts and my battery acts normal once again. It was a pain in the ass to do all of that but it did work for me so hopefully it works for you too.