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This will all probably sound extremely nooby but just want to make sure I dont do anything to break my new DHD!
I've previously had experience rooting and flashing ROMS on a Htc Hero and that seemed much simpler.
Basically what I want to know is, if I have a branded Orange DHD do i need to use a goldcard in order to flash ROMS like Android Revolution or is a gold card just if I want to a flash a HTC stock ROM? I've tried reading up on this but I'm still unsure...
And also, does rooting and flashing Roms and Radios affect the sim card at all or does it just affect the device itself?
Your similar card is fine no matter what you do, unless you try and bend it!
The process of flashing ROMs is exactly the same as the HTC Hero, my old phone, however some processes need to be run before you can flash.
If you have a branded Orange handset and firmware 1.72/1.84 you will need to downgrade to 1.32 before you can root and start these processes, ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF (Optional).
I will link an excellent guide that has all the info you need.
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
thanks a lot, sorry to be a pain but the thing I'm really unclear about is if my DHD is Orange branded, but my firmware is 1.40.61.2 do i still need to downgrade to 1.32?
I don't know to be honest. Try running Visionary+ and see if you can root. If you can, then you don't need to downgrade.
Your firmware seems.to be rootable
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
And I can confirm it, no need to downgrade
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good info
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
Hi dayze0
dayze0 said:
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
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You should find most of the link you should need here:- DHD Development Sticky Roll-Up Thread
Take Care
TheQuest
andyharney said:
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
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thhx
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
emm_stra said:
hello
i am new in rooting stuff.
i want to use visionary+ to temp root my device
it worked fine.
Now i want to use ROM manager to backup my current rom without being permanent root. I want to do it using temp root.
Is that possible?
I already tried and it didn't worked..
thank you in advanced for any help!
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No answer yet? Where are root experts?
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Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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dexter93 said:
Why temp root? It's really easy permrooting it...
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thank you for the answer
if i pemanent root my device before i take a initial backup of my current factory rom i would not be able to restore it whenever i want to give my phone for service.
I will have to download one from a site. But i want to use again my own one.
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
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I am confused
What is ruu?
And s-off?
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RUU stands for ROM update utility. It's an upgrade pack from htc. It contains ROM, radio, bootloader and recovery(in other words all the software bits required for your phone to run) to "update" your phone. These are all factory ones that are released from htc to help users upgrade their phones to the latest official software. Their components are found also on the OTA updates. We use them after when we want to return the phone to factory default state after we have flashed custom versions of any of the above, in order to return for service. S-on/off indicates a security status set by HTC. S-on is the standard for retail phones and it means that the /system and /data are not writable when the phone is operating. In that case we use tools like adb to do so , through pc. S-off disables this security measure allowing further customization of the device. It is also said that root+s-off = ultimate root, because then the phone is fully accessible and customizable
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dexter93 said:
You could just grab one of the ruus that are on shipped-roms.com that contains your current rom. It's a pity to have such a good device and not root it... You lose functionality.... Also you can't flash custom roms.... Our devs are by far better than htc's
Think that people even s-off and send their phone in for service (after returning it to perfect factory condition via ruu).
Sent from my HTC Desire
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hello again
thank you for the answer
should i trust the ruu from this site shipped-roms.com? do we know that is the factory one?
and which one is for my hct desire? in this site there are more than one ruu for my device. how do i know which one is for my device?
And a final question
What will be the profit of making my device root? would i be able to have more software?
thank you in advanced for any help
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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dexter93 said:
The ruus on shipped-roms are the factory ones and are tested. There are many roms, because there are many updates, and because some of them are branded, which means that they are specifically designed for a specific carrier. Usually what you need is the latest WWE RUU. When rooted you can use some extra apps, and flash custom roms(and recoveries/radios too)
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thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
emm_stra said:
thank you again for the help
if i root my phone what is the normal process that i should take? the steps or the guide i mean.
after my phone is rooted, what other ruu should i install to my phone?
i would like to test sense 3.0 and the new version of android.
is that possible??
and of cousre to be able to have many software in my card...
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There are full tutorials in the desire development sub forum. The latest ruu is the one that came to you over the air and its froyo with standard sense. You don't need to install any ruu, as long as you don't want to send it in for service. If you want to try sense 3(its still im beta phase) you can try one of the custom roms found in the desire index thread(in the development subforum). You must first become familiar with these terms: adb, fastboot, ext, a2sd, a2sd+,data2sd/ext/whatever, hboot, root, s-off, alpharev, partition,recovery,wipe, backup,flash,dalvik cache,RUU, usb brick, rosie,apk, updater-script, update.zip, radio, ril,amend, edify, data++, amonRA, clockworkmod, AOSP, MIUI and others, but there are enough to bring you in the world of Android on Desire. Be patient and search for each and every one of these.... Everything has been explained on the forums and the tuts in great detail. Dont be afraid to use Google search, or the xda one
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hey guys.i need to flash my brothers wildfire,and i must not mess up.i never worked with htc's,only with sony ericssons.and they are easly recoverable if it bricks.and i dont know anything about htcs so help me up
Follow this one:
http://joel5121.blogspot.com/2011/06/wildfire-22-root-tutorial.html
The only difference is that instead of downloading AlphaRev X, you have to download Revolutionary (This will unlock the bootloader AND will install a Custom Recovery - ie Clockworkmod), and the site is here:
http://revolutionary.io/
Rest, everything is pretty safe. The Wildfire is also pretty easily recoverable.
thanks.can you guide me to the best rom?
Depends on whether you want to keep the HTC Sense Interface or not. If you are ready to give it up, then I will go with Cyanogenmod 7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015532
If you want to keep the Sense Interface, you are restricted to Android 2.2 ROMs only (There is one 2.3 Sense ROM, but its incomplete and under development). Popular choices there include RemPuzzleROM and Joker Droid:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978197
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999899
Lastly, there is a complete ROM Listing here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
...hope this isnt a pointless thread, but I felt these are a valid set of questions... might be wrong though... >_<
In any case, I've just been informed that the HTC now officially unlocks the DHD bootloader through their website.
Now, my questions...
Does anyone know the difference between the Official HTC bootloader unlock procedure versus the Radio and ENG-HBOOT procedure posted by jkoljo?
Also, note that the HTC way looks like its just one procedure... whilst jkoljo's are distinctly two (one for Radio and one for HBOOT)... if the HTC procedure is initially used, would you still need to do either of jkoljo's? ie the Radio S-Off one... assuming the HTC way gives you only Eng-HBOOT S-OFF?
Hell, do you still need to downgrade with the HTC bootloader unlock?
Lastly, I've already used jkoljo's procedure and now fully Radio & HBOOT S-Off'ed... is there any point of doing the HTC unlock bootloader procedure? Would it actually give me a negative result if I actually go through the HTC procedure now with the current state of my phone?
Anyways, thanks for reading through my musings... and here's hoping someone with the knowhow answers well... ^_^
/Peace
I would like to no this to, but do we really need to worry now we are rooted ?
Yes me 2. What are the pros and cons of them?
...from reading the FAQ on the HTCdev about it.
...according to its FAQ
It seems you're still S-ON after their procedure. This is to apparently secure the radio as well as the SIM-Lock...
So me thinks we might still need jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure afterwards...
...Although, with HTC leaving that lock... I'm a bit dubious about advocating their procedure now as opposed to jkoljo's as well as the Advanced Ace Hack kit. The latter of which is actually the most effective imho, though it still needs jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure...
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
truc007 said:
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
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Root is different from unlocking bootloader eg the Motorola Milestone has root but the bootloader is still locked. This still allows you to load partially customized ROMs but prevents loading custom kernels for one thing.
My question though would be:
What exactly is the point in HTC's bootloader unlocker? Say you go from a stock phone, upgraded froyo to GB all the way. You dont have s-off or eng-off or anything, what would the benefit be to now unlock the bootloader "officially"?
Does it supply a recovery with nandroid backup or allow GB to be rooted or anything like that?
The benefit would be that you lose your warranty because HTC saves your serial, which wouldn't happen if you do it yourself.
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Exactly...and thanks to AAHK it's not really difficult to get Root, S-Off and CWM on our phones
DN41
Wonder why HTC went through "all the trouble" to do a bootloader unlocker for Desire HD now anyway? its like p#ssing on the ashes AFTER the house burnt down, surely they know there's a dozen ways to get there that are far less involved than their convoluted scheme. *shrugs*
I did this just because there's no major action on ICS and no action on rcmix runny, so i needed to do something to my phone.
Its a real convoluted process.
you need to restore to stock and update to the latest ruu before you can then install the new hboot to then unlock.
The only difference is now i have locked, then unlocked at the top of the bootloader screen.
still needed to re root the stock rom to install 4ext to nandroid the stock and restore ICS.
Really not worth the effort trying ifyou already have a custom recovery and s-off.
Unless you want the latest possible date to show off...
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
Pibroens said:
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
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Check the stickies in the dev forum like this one.
If you have S-OFF, obviously you can skip to the next steps, which is to root.
Make sure you read, read, read so you don't miss anything important.
I have a HTC Desire A9191 which is is branded with a ROM from Orange. So far I have unlocked it and is working with a different network.
I want root the device and also removed the branded bloat sh*te from Orange and install a custom ROM. I have read multiple forum articles on how to do this, and understand the process.
What I don't know is which method will work for my current image version, and what is the best ROM for this device.
Version info as follows:
Adroid - 2.3.5
HTC Sense - 3.0
Software number - 3.13.61.5
Many thanks in advance.
Does anybody have advice for this this Orange version?
I don't think that the orange bloatware or branding will have any effect on the rooting process, it should be that standard downgrade and then root procedure. Just remember to follow the steps precisely and read the entire post with all instructions as all the information you could possibly need will be there.
With regard to the custom rom, well thats entirely up to you! There are plenty of great roms available, try them all and keep the one that suits you best
mpg19 said:
I have a HTC Desire A9191 which is is branded with a ROM from Orange. So far I have unlocked it and is working with a different network.
I want root the device and also removed the branded bloat sh*te from Orange and install a custom ROM. I have read multiple forum articles on how to do this, and understand the process.
What I don't know is which method will work for my current image version, and what is the best ROM for this device.
Version info as follows:
Adroid - 2.3.5
HTC Sense - 3.0
Software number - 3.13.61.5
Many thanks in advance.
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You can folllow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
Is a one step process to root, S-OFF, supercid, custom recovery etc. Then you will be able to flash any custom rom or a stock rooted rom.
Follow the instructions very carefully.
The link in the post above doesn't seem to work.
I would just say do a search for the "Ace hack kit" in this forum to find the right thread.http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765&order=desc
I don't think you'll be S-OFF but that won't stop you flashing a ROM, plus there is another 1 step process to get you S-OFF. If you read the thread, and ask in there, you'll find everything you'll need.
The Ace hack kit is extremely easy to do, you simply plug your phone into your PC and click on or two buttons and it does the rest. Make sure you are absolutely sure on the procedure before doing it though.