I have been modifying my Evo for close to a year now. What a fantastic device. Here recently, I have been plauged w horrible data speeds. Called sprint, complained, they told me my area is below the standard for speeds. Which is odd because away from work my speeds are nice and no real complaints but I work on a Verizon dominated AFB and no real support for sprint. I had been on the new radios, pri and NV for a while and decided while I'm taking a little break to test out something. I flashed back to 1.77 pri and NV and in the exact same spot my ping went from 900s to 130s. My do speed went from 50kbps to over 1mbps.
How is this? Is it possible the old pri and NV make that much of a difference? This is the same data are for the last month I have had horrendous speeds and immediately after flash my speedtest locks in faster. Everything is working better. Anyone else have this experience?
After extensive testing this is the only answer I can come up with...it makes my phones data 10x faster in over a mile of different locations. Held over 1mbps in all areas where previously for over a month have been barely 100kbps. The best was 1.8mbps dl speed. I am super excited.
You can prove your speculation by flashing back and forth between version 1.77 and 2.15 and try speedtest at the same time and location. I tried both and didn't see any noticeable difference in speed test.
Weird. Maybe not for everyone but it has definitely helped my phone.
Even had another stock Evo 3d beside my Evo 4g and I consistently pulled over 500 kbps greater than his E3D.
Does anyone know exactly what pri and NV do?
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Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?
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God's honst truth man... if thats all you get... thats all you are going to get because sprints 3g network is the worst i have ever seen. Bar none. Even little us cellular has better coverage and twice the data speeds as sprint does here in iowa.
There is no possible way for the phine or any hack to it to speed up sprints crap network.
My advise to you is to cqll sprint and plead your case, that you paid for 3g and are getting 1x rtt speeds 24/7 and politely demand a credit to your account like i do every month.
And then call back about 5 minutes later and ask to speak to the retention center because you want to cancel your service because you arpe not getting service you are paying for.
Then tell the retention persion you were thinking of getting the Airave but cant afford it and see if they will give it to you free on the basis of poor service and they typically will.
I did, and got one for when i am at work and the boss wont let me use it because it uses works internet for voice and data.
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Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.
I know in the old days of 3g internet hacks Sanyo phones had a data cap screen that was accessible via ##040793##. From there you could change the data rate, 144K/230K. Not sure if we have the same here but phone codes may be a place to start.
Mmmmhmmm. Just be glad you don't have the epic and are capped at 150kbps up.
I think sprint has finally gotten 2 good phones and 4g, so now they think they're the top dog and can do whatever they damn well please...it's like a cycle with them. Bad service>>>loose all of their customers>>>cheap, semi-good service>>>get customers back>>>become assholes again>>>loose their customers...
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Figures... Should have went with ATT or Verizon.
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lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?
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lol, good luck getting a decent phone on att or verizon. Let alone coverage. Oh and dont forget about the data caps on the phones, 100mb right? or was it 200mb?
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Well Verizon has amazing android phones for one. There is a data cap for ATT which is true but no cap for Verizon. You know now that I think about it I might do the force roam hack on my Evo and see if if I get better 3g speeds.
I have no idea what any if you are talking about, I get better 3g speeds on Sprint then I ever did with any other carrier I've had.
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am I doing something wrong?
on 3g I pull down at least 512 up
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Hey guys I have had my Evo for awhile now and Sprints network has great coverage BUT the 3g seems abysmally slow. For instance, I can rarely stream videos without it buffering - youtube videos on regular quality mind you. If I stand still in a place with good signal I will be fine but if I'm moving etc it is slow. I get around 100KB/s during daytime where I live and 130KB/s night time which is great but luckily I also get full signal where I am. On the go, it sucks.
Are there any ways to increase 3g speeds or is it purely network related?
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I wish I could get speeds that fast consistently. Actually what you are getting is right about on par for 3g. That's prob the avg speed one would expect to get. There are higher areas and lower areas depending on a lot of things. A 100KB connection is nothing to complain about. I've personally never had a connection over 150 KB.
Sent from your mom's phone.
Not sure if its sprint or my phone but I can't break 40kbs down on anything and 3g cuts out all the time. Crappy....
The first thing I would do to verify your 3g speeds is to unroot your phone, and make sure you are running the latest .93 hboot release and sprint ota release. If your phone is already in this state (un rooted and latest hboot) then ignore me.
You should also look into unrevoked forever if you haven't already...it runs off the current hboot, and I've noticed that something about that hboot does help 3g speeds on some rooted phones if you go that route.
I've done a ton of research and practical testing on this subject and I can say without a doubt that the evo's current rooting methods DO have a negative impact on some 3g phones in some areas. And I'm not talking about 100 or 200 kbps here or there. In the same house, same phone, 1 rooted and 1 not. That was the ONLY difference. The rooted phone got 7 kbps. The stock got 1800kbps. I swapped phone setups so that the rooted one was now unrooted and vice versa. That time the rooted one got 47kbps and unrooted was 1681 kbps...in other words the problem followed the rooting process, and not the phone. I've done dozens of tests like this and others in various areas within the surrounding wilmington delaware area.
I have access to 3 rooted evos, 1 evo that is always stock, as well as a samsung moment. The 4 evos are all rev 3 nova. I also did similar tests on the hero with the same sorts of results. Feel free to pm me or post here with any questions.
EDIT: the kbps numbers I listed were for download speeds. Upload speeds on both rooted and unrooted, regardless of build or boot version, were consistent at around 600 -700 kbps during almost all of my testing.
EDIT2: I forgot to say - this problem also happened to me when I changed recoveries from clockwork to AmonRA. So it's not JUST the rooting process that can cause this, but several low-level engineering commands, such as flashing a kernel, upgrading a ROM, etc.
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That's pretty crappy, I get full 3g pretty much everywhere around St. Louis until I get out to the country. And pretty good 4g around town. My 3g is about 1.5mb down. 4g is 5 to 7mb down.
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Flash the PRL to connect to Verizon's towers. I get 1.2 mb/s even see 2mb/s occasionally. Of course ping times are raised.
It's pretty hit or miss here, one day I will get 50-150k down and the next it will be +1meg. Next time it get drops below 500 you can bet I will be talking to somebody about it though, their advertised 3G speed is 600kb - 1.5mb.
100kb is ridiculous
I get anywhere between 500-1mb down 100-200kb up. My 4G easily does between 2-6mb down and 1mb up. People just love to complain. You didn't realize this within your 30 day trial? If so, why didn't you switch carriers?
What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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You live in an area with poor coverage or your phone has a faulty radio.
I get good signal and up/Downs on 3g. If I nandriod away from cm6, I can get 6-7mb down and 1mb up with 4g in San leandro CA.
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What should the prl be right now ? And how are you guys testing the speeds? Nvr done it
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Speedtest... its in the market.
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I think it is my radio. I was getting fine speeds up until 3 days ago when I noticed severe loading lag in my tethered apps. I get decent pings ~ 200-300ms which is not too out of the ordinary. I did a speed test other day and it was 50KB/s down and 70KB/s up. I figured it was just a faulty day but it has gone on far too long now. This is with 5/5 bars too... Just gotta wait for my new Evo to come in. Seems like every hardware ****up is happening at once.
On Saturday, I was at a buddy's house and one of his friends has an Epic. SO we're comparing phones and whatever, and we do a speed test on 4G. My phone hit 2.5 Mbps (which is what it always hits no matter when I am connected to 4G) and his phone hit almost 7 Mbps!
We used Speedtest, and I know it isn't 100% accurate, and we could have ran the test from different servers........but we are talking a huge difference here, and he said he always get speeds faster than 2.5 Mbps.
I called Clear, they said they can't help me because I am not directly their customer. I called Sprint, and well, we all know how well Sprint trains their reps on 4G. I spoke to a guy at Sprint who was very helpful, and he did something from his side and had me do a ##3282# data profile reset, and he is going to call me in an hour when I can try out my 4G connection again (I do not get 4G at home).
All my info is in my sig. Does anyone have any ideas as to why? I inclined to flash the older Wimax radios onto my phone to see what happens, but I'm scared of messing up my RSA keys and losing 4G altogether.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
The WiMAX radio hasn't been updated since June/July so in all likelyhood you are both using the same version.
You mentioned that you might have been on different servers. I'd say that's the #1 most likely cause.
Another possible cause is that you were connected to another pod than he was if there was overlapping coverage. You could try disconnecting/reconnecting both phones and run the test again.
Well, I checked the radio version on his phone and it was numbered completely different from mine, but then again, it was a different phone from a different manufacturer.
Not to mention, I never hit over 2.5 Mbps no matter what time of day it is or where I am geographically. Also, my upload speed is capped at 1 Mbps.
Missed the Epic part. Yeah in that case the versions will not match.
Sprint caps everyone's 4G upload to 1MBps.
Hello, I have noticed that ever since I have gotten my EVO that the 3G speeds are insanely slow. I've ran speedtests all over the Los Angeles area and they average download speed never exceeds 1 Mbps. Anyways, I have been without proper internet since I have moved, so I have been USB tethering to my PC. This has compelled me to look into the slow 3G matter more. I ran a speedtest from my PC browser and noticed that the central server(gold star) it recommends is in KS and im in CA. This is suggesting that the best speedtest is in KS, meaning that I am probably getting 3G connection out of state
Is this even possible? And how can I adjust my 3G connection?
Well there are never radios which could potentially help, but a lot of that data speed just varies.
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Well there are never radios which could potentially help, but a lot of that data speed just varies.
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Thanks for the suggestiom, i've already updated the PRI, WiMax and Radio to the latest(I never read about NV or HBoot updares, so i'll stay away from those for the time being). I just updated to the deodexed version of the latest rooted HTC sense 3.70 update. Results have been constant from stock up until this point though.
Yea my 3g at times are like but I notice it when I flash different radios & prl from new to old they say u should always stay updated but notice the best results when I use the old radio n old prl but now I use the old radio and the new prl 1.90 get results n u should playing with the home agents
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I would have agree with the OP. I live in the Atlanta GA area and typically where I would I get 5+ bars of signal, but I get speeds averaging .600 mbps, its ridiculous. With my old Hero I would always get +1.5 mbps in the same area. Now there have been times where I would get 1.5 to 2.1 mbps on my Evo on 3G... but a lot of the times it would only last for a day or 2. Then I come back to work the next morning and these speeds are back to being craptastic even while still displaying 5+ bars.
At home its always been worse. But I would still be able to run Pandora and run a 4 minute or less youtube video on regular quality without too much stutter. Now I wouldn't dare use data like that on my Evo w/o flipping on WiFi now though. Its pretty ridiculous at this point...
I've been playing around with the 7.28 and 9.01 radios. My dBms are higher with 9.01 but the dowloads on speedtest are generally better on 7.28. The upload is usually slightly better on 9.01. I want good signal strength and good 3G. I am understanding it correctly that dBm is signal strength and speedtest shows your 3g?
Also, I'm on PRL 52999. I live in Alabama and used to be on Alltel. I'm on a Verizon plan now. Would changing to a hybrid prl inprove my signal strength? I've got great signal in Montgomery but get lower test results and dbms at my house in the suburbs and at my parent's lake house. I used to get better signal strength but it's gone down recently. Maybe there are tower's damaged by April's tornados.
When it comes to dBm, a LOWER number is better. It means you have a stronger signal. That could answer why your downloads are better on 7.28 which has a lower dBm, correct?
Also, when I flashed a hybrid PRL (I'm in NY and CT), I actually had worse signal, and my 3g speeds were slower, but of course, your mileage may vary.
At work I average about -49 to -55 on 9.01 and -52- to -59 on 7.28. So, the dBm on 9.01 should be better. After a while of 9.01 settling in it seems the upload speeds have increased. Maybe I jsut tested too quickly.
I could always try the hybrid prl and then change it back if no increase. In Montgomery the signal is great but in the suburbs not as much. I had much better signal in the suburbs before I went to Cyanogenmod 7. I understand that it doesn't show as many signal bars. Virtuous used to show 4/4 bars. My wife's Env always seems to have more bars.
Can a rooted droid with cyanogenmod 7 receive prls pushed from Verizon? I know *228 doesn't work and you hve to go back to a sense ROM to update the prl that way.
Every time I've run *228 on CyanogenMod 7.03 I've gotten a response saying that my roaming capabilites were updated successfully. The only difference is see when I do this when on stock Sense is that the phone reboots itself right after, I have to manually reboot with CM7.
I've done *228 and its worked fine on CM7, you just don't have access to the menu that lets you manually update PRLs. As for data speeds, they vary so much even in the same location with the same radio, its hard to tell if one radio is appreciably better than another in that regard. Also I've found that the speedtest.net app is super inconsistent and buggy, I'd recommend this browser based test instead: http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html
Verizon is going to push the latest hybrid prl. How long should it take to show up on my phone? Do I need to *228 after that? They said a hybrid prl may benefit me in my area since it was once a huge Alltel area.
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Verizon is going to push the latest hybrid prl. How long should it take to show up on my phone? Do I need to *228 after that? They said a hybrid prl may benefit me in my area since it was once a huge Alltel area.
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Be sure you're on a Sense 1.0 rom, and do a *228. If they said they'll push it, then I don't see why you can't try it now. Then once you do a *228 (or even a *22899 if you want to skip the menus), reboot and see if you have a new PRL.
So I won't get the prl update if I'm on Cyanogenmod? Will I have to flash to my backed up sense rom for a few hours and hope it pushes then?
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When it comes to dBm, a LOWER number is better.
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No, the higher number the better. -30dBm is better than -40dBm. Since -30 is closer to 0 than -40, it is actually a higher number.
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all true....too bad my coverage sucks regardless what I do. tried every combo of prl and radios and still average at -92dBm. sprint users average in mid -70's. I'm close to a tower but it must be weak or damaged
I am extremely upset with the 3G data speeds of my new Epic Touch compared to my Evo 4G. I tested the download 3G data speeds at the exact same time using the speedtest.net application. I tested the data speeds several times throughout the day with the same results. My Evo is always about 4 times as fast as my Epic Touch. The Evo is running around 1600 kbps and the Epic Touch around 400 kbps. I have tried everything. Any suggestions?
I just tested two Evo 4G's and my touch and they were all in the same range +-200k, and all fluctuated pretty much the same.
Did you ever do the proxy 0 setting on the Evo? I have heard that really boosts speeds.
There is a similar problem on the Epic 4G. If I recall correctly, a modem nvram reset in Odin fixed it.
You might be connecting at 1X. Check out this thread for how to make the phone properly display the 1X icon.
In my office where I have gotten great 3G and 4G speeds on my EVO for the last year, my E4GT barely gets 20kbps and ping times of several seconds (thousands of ms), all while connected to 1X. Coworkers on Sprint have phones right next to me getting 1Mbps... There is definitely a problem. 4G is unaffected and it still connects and is fast as normal.
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There is a similar problem on the Epic 4G. If I recall correctly, a modem nvram reset in Odin fixed it.
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Are there instructions regarding how to perform this? What does this do?
I guess I'm justifiably nervous about messing with the radio.
For what its worth, both my EVO and ET4G seem to get similar (crappy, 150-400kbps) speeds at my house. 11115 PRL and roam control get me much better (600-1200kbps).
But just today I dropped calls twice on my ET4G, once on home towers about -91dB, and again on VZW towers at -76dB. That never seemed to happen on my EVO, and I have a job where i often work from home, on the phone for 5-7 hours per day. I need my phone calls to be RELIABLE!
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Are there instructions regarding how to perform this? What does this do?
I guess I'm justifiably nervous about messing with the radio.
For what its worth, both my EVO and ET4G seem to get similar (crappy, 150-400kbps) speeds at my house. 11115 PRL and roam control get me much better (600-1200kbps).
But just today I dropped calls twice on my ET4G, once on home towers about -91dB, and again on VZW towers at -76dB. That never seemed to happen on my EVO, and I have a job where i often work from home, on the phone for 5-7 hours per day. I need my phone calls to be RELIABLE!
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I actually think if both phones had crappy data speeds I wouldn't be as upset. It kinda feels like I paid to downgrade.
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I actually think if both phones had crappy data speeds I wouldn't be as upset. It kinda feels like I paid to downgrade.
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You should return your phone and stick to the Evo 3D.
Evo 3D has bad signal also. Original Evo had good signal.