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I have used both and loved both equally. But I want a cleaner and faster ROM, so which is preferable?
For me OD is faster.
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thanks to the best opendesire
opendesire is fast and stable my friends. and the best rom on market thats what i think
Have used both and personally find DeFrost is my favourite but it's all subjective in my opinion. Whichever you choose you're going to get a good rom supported by a good dev.
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Maybe it's just me but I feel that there is better support for OD than DeFroST. My questions on OD get answered fast without the need to bump them. While in the DeFroST thread, I have to bump a few times and then I won't get an answer sometimes too.
Went to bed with 59% battery, woke up 9 hours later finding that it's dead. And that's with OpenDesire. Recommend DeFroST atm matey/
Defrost all the way to go, imho
Regards
I've had DeFrost since I got by Desire back in May sometime. Switched to OpenDesire yesterday for no real reason. It is a bit cleaner from scratch. In other aspects, they're quite the same in normal day to day usage.
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I have used both and loved both equally. But I want a cleaner and faster ROM, so which is preferable?
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I've used pretty much all releases of both roms, deFrost has always been the most stable.
Dunno if its my fault, but going to bed with OD at 70% and finding it dead next Day isn't much fun but seems to be faster and more stable. But i have to look what's so Battery draining.. :/
I love both and switch between the two depending on the current release. Both are outstanding ROM's...
For those who are experiencing poor battery life in Open Desire, Perhaps there is a process hogging your CPU cycles. Get the app "Android System Information" from the market, go to the Tasks tab, and go menu -> Sort by CPU Usage. "android.process.acore" (there were two of these) was taking up 100%. Once killed, overall usage dropped from 40-ish% to 5%, and battery life was somewhere in the vicinity of 4% lost in 6 hours. I don't know why that process every now and then takes up 100% of my usage -there are threads about it scattered throughout the various forums. When I was using ADW Launcher, the problem was much more common, such that when you added or moved or removed a widget, the problem would arise again. Launcher Pro has given me less problems.
I suppose I'm just saying - see if killing android.process.acore fixes your battery life. (i realise if it does do anything that it may only be a temporary solution.
Josh.
i find both OD and DF almost the same. Open Desire feels much original in every sense, where DeFrost does now take things from others like Cynogen. But thats ok as one cant develop all things by himself.
2 things i really really miss in both of them though is,
1) friend stream widget
2) FM Radio
Both are good and it depends on which one you try and wanna keep on ur device. But yes both looks the same, performance wise i find them alike,
Make a Vote thread then : )
Tried both and switch between them a fair amount. At the moment, I prefer Defrost because it deals with activesync better than OD and I use that for work e-mails.
Neither is very good at displaying the correct contact pics in the launcher pro widget to be honest. I also found that OD was force closing the facebook app.
Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.
DeFroST all the way. OpenDesire is only there if you want to wake up the next morning with no alarm and finding that your desire have gone walkies to it's grave because it died.
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OpenDesire is only there if you want to wake up the next morning with no alarm and finding that your desire have gone walkies to it's grave because it died.
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i've never had either of these problems, been using OpenDesire since v1.1.
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Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.
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Dude are you kidding? If you are serious, I'll flash OD right away. No offense dude but coming from you it seems a little biased.
AdamG said:
Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.
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why do you tell it 10 times a hour? we now know it. thank you.
Long time lurker first time poster... so don't beat me up too bad.
I'm looking at jumping into the CM7 world and am looking for some input.
I've used multiple versions of Skyraider up to 3.5 and loved them until they began getting a bit laggy (tried multiple kernels). I'm now using myn's warm 2.2 and ziggy's kernel with great success. Phone operates VERY smooth and all features work (not even sure why I want to try something new... guess I'm bored?).
Long story short, my phone is a daily driver and needs good battery life and all features to work (BT, camera, data, WiFi, etc...). I don;t mind flashing a few ROM's but it gets quite time consuing setting up the desktop screens, apps, calendars, etc...
I see that some builds break things, some fix things and it's hard to know which build does what. Many folks feel CM7 is the greatest thing since the Atari 2600; so here's my question:
What build are you using?
Does the phone scroll and transition smoothly?
All features working?
Getting FC's?
And yes... I have done quite a bit of reading on the CM7 nightly thread and others as well. People have a tendancy to post issues, not sucesses so it's difficult to find a good stable GB ROM.
Im on the latest release #37 I believe Using slayhers .37 kernal.
Love it. Altho, ever since I installed .37 kernal I've had my phone randomly reboot between 7:30 am - 9:00 am
I have yet to find out why... and it's only durring those hours too
I'm loving this ROM. Every time i go back to a sense, rom, i end up flashing cm6/7 back.
There are good things about cm6 and cm7... cm6 has a better camera app, probably more stable, but cm7 brings all the little things together, like multitouch keyboard + maps, it's snappy, the txting lag has been much improved. I think they are going to drop RC1 tonite..
I'm using build #33 with Chad's.37 kernel and everything's been running perfectly for the past few days. I don't think I've had a single FC or reboot. Battery life has also been very good, been using it pretty heavily all day and I'm down to 50%.
Just flashed 38, Have also used pretty much all the 20's 31 and 32. .37 Slayher Homebrewed #14
No reboots. I would say I could count the FCs on one hand easily and honestly don't blame the build I blame the app.
I used a number of roms before. Most of them from Rom manager. Now I am strictly a CM guy. Love these builds. I don't use Rom manager anymore either, just manually flash.
Personally, I'm someone who generally avoids experimental roms that still have incomplete functionality. Like you, my phone is a daily driver and I need to be able to rely on it. But CM7 was getting such rave reviews, I started to read up on it. It seemed that by the time I was hopping onto the bandwagon (nightly build 27 or so), everything was functional, there were just some things to be polished here and there.
It would be an understatement to say that I've been pleased.
To answer your questions specifically:
What build are you using? - Just flashed to #38, but have used a number of the builds
Does the phone scroll and transition smoothly? - Yes. For whatever its worth, I use LauncherPro Plus rather than ADW (which is what CM7 comes with)
All features working? - Yes. At least everything that I use.
Getting FC's? - Nothing that can't be traced back to another issue besides CM7
Don't get me wrong, I've had some tiny issues here and there, and some weird interactions, but nothing critical, and nothing that has stopped me from using this as my only rom.
I still keep old nandroids of the last two roms I used before CM7, but unless something drastic changes, they will just collect dust.
I've been using CM7 as a daily driver since like build 11, I haven't had any problems at all and its nice seeing new things added with each build
My dinc runs CM7 with the modified slayher .37 kernel. I runs super fast, but I haven't really noticed a significant increase in battery life. It used to crash, but since I set the wifi sleep policy to never, I have not had any problems.
build#38 ran awesome. no force closes and great battery life 20 hours or more. id say give it a try.
Just flashed RC1. Going great so far with only a few FC's that were solved with a simple reinstall.
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Did RC1, shaky, but amazing. Running 39 and it is better, has a lot of fixes that RC1 was plagued with. Like the rotary lock in the call screen.
I've been following CM7 development since Crackflashers. The rom has come a long way. Many people had problems with the first RC1 release because a mistake was made and those who did a clean wipe were locked out of the system. -Guess that should serve as a lesson to always nandroid first-
My advice is to continue flashing nightlies. As previously mentioned, the code will continue to improve and you will receive the latest fixes and features. Save yourself the trouble and clear cache and Dalvik before every flash. No need to wipe data.
Does anybody happen to know if there is a .37 version of the invisiblek kernel that includes the wifi sleep policy fix?
Its been working fine for me. The only problem I am having is that trackball wake doesn't function. I've made sure its selected int he CM settings, but I can press the trackball until kingdom come and it won't do anything. Looking at the dev. thread, I'm either the only one experiencing it, or the only one who cares.
SD card not mounting
flashed CM7 yesterday, really like how it runs. problem is my SD card won't load on the phone! I tried two different cards but no luck. recovery won't mount them either so I can't restore a nandroid backup. help!
also when I reboot most of the time, it'll show the htc incredible screen then go black and vibrate 5 times.
I'm running CM7 nightly #2 with the 2.6.37 incredikernel and it's great. Everything is very smooth and I can't seem to find anything that refuses to work. I had fc's when I first flashed the rom but fixing permissions in rom manager did the trick, since then I've had no problems.
I flashed CM7 as soon as they posted RC1 to ROM manager. I was skeptical at first and had a bunch of FC issues until I ran fix permissions (AFTER you install all apps). Haven't had issues since and my battery is lasting longer than ever, even without Juice Defender. Performs great. Can't wait until they get to adding more features like 6.1 had.
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Is it just me, or did Cyanogenmod lose some customization options from CM6.1 to CM7?
I dont see many editing options under CyanogenMod Settings and miss the ones from CM6.1
I'm on Build #41 and I can say a few things:
1) Battery life sucks on the Incredible no matter what. So just accept that. That being said, with Incredikernel .37 and CM7 Build 41, my battery life is "acceptable" compared to completely unacceptable with any other kernel or Sense Rom combination.
2) Random reboots. I don't know if it's just my phone, but even after trying three different .37 kernels, fixing permissions and re-flashing, my phone will go through "reboot anxiety attacks" where it reboots once every 10-12 minutes and then it will be fine for a whole day. It's not at specific times either.
3) Honeybread Theme - Get it. That's all.
4) Turn off wifi sleep completely. It seemed to curb some battery issues I was having.
Thanks All...
I went ahead and took the plunge and I don't regret it
I had some issues with RC1 and had to go to nightly #38. Everything has been solid with the exception of 2 random reboots (in the last 3 days). Not sure why but this isn't a show stopper.
I'll likley wait a while before flashing another nightly build.
So far so good. Batter life is ok... I know the Inc isn't the best for battery life but I got a bit better with Myn's ROM.
My quadrant numbers have improved (I know... relatively meaningless) and the UI is quite smooth.
Thanks to the development team... You've done a great job !!!
Hey xda
I come from cyanogen7 and went for the acesmod rom because I was missing the nice widgets, looks, and overall performance of sense. I have now spend some time on acesmod and I must say that it looks very nice and I especially think that the sense keyboard works a lot better when writing danish.
My problem is now that I find acesmod drinking my battery like crazy. Besides this I find it to be lagging a lot and not that smooth a experience that one could expect.
Do anybody know what I could do about this. Have you guys experiences the same.
Alternatively I am open to other sense based roms.
Thanks xda people!
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sense roms do use considerably more battery than cm7 roms, nothing you can really do about it apart from maybe calibrate your battery, theres a thread on here about how to do it
Again, calibration is not to be used to increase battery performance... Disable htc.com sync, use as less widgets and let them sync as rarely as possible. Disable pocket mode too, sign out of Latitude and make sure that your market and maps are not in the foreground when you turn your screen off as they won't release the wakelock then.
I can hear that there is not much I can do. Had every updating things disabled and also got the black wallpaper for power saving.
Are there then any sense based roms you would prefer over acesmod 007?
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I have good battery life on 007 mod.... But I have used only sense roms, so I cannot compare it to others.
mine life battery is good, try using andrev_oc
andrev_oc? (This is only my second rom)
see here how to install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16803896&postcount=355
hope it helps
edit: with ES File Explorer (in settings tick the root explorer and mount file system) copy the freqs to system/etc/andrev_oc
Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
The new 007 mod (v39) has even better battery life!
And the speed...
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Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
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and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
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and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
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It's definitely more informative than what you've posted... :-\
Hi,
I wonder if i should switch from CM7 to ICS/Andromadus.
is Andromadus ready for exeryday use yet? (i don't mind a few bugs, glitches or even a freeze a week. But i need a working phone)
how does it compare to CM7? (battery life, performance)
is CM9 worth a try? (there is no official build or is there?)
i've tried these three roms and know i've Andromadus beta 3
cyano 9 has got a lot of bugs and make a lot of freeze (with beta 3 i've got 3 freeze in 6 hours)
the battery with Andro goes well, nothing special but the performance are excellent
you have to try it
dadefive said:
i've tried these three roms and know i've Andromadus beta 3
cyano 9 has got a lot of bugs and make a lot of freeze (with beta 3 i've got 3 freeze in 6 hours)
the battery with Andro goes well, nothing special but the performance are excellent
you have to try it
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I think my battery has been lasting less since I flashed andro. Anyways I think it's the best rom out, so I'll keep staying with it and its test builds...
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is Andromadus ready for exeryday use yet? (i don't mind a few bugs, glitches or even a freeze a week. But i need a working phone)
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I believe yes, it is certainly ready for everyday use. I haven't gotten many glitches/freezes since beta 2 (even then a glitch or reboot might happen once a week max). Pretty much everything works (mms, camera has no preview glitch, etc).
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how does it compare to CM7? (battery life, performance)
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IMO it's an upgrade feature wise. Many system apps and functions are just more polished IMO (contacts, dialer with google voice integration, etc). Battery life is noticeably worse than CM7 but I am still able to get through a day with no issues (my CM7 battery life ranged from 28-36 hours while Andromadus seems to be more like 19-28 depending on my usage).
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is CM9 worth a try? (there is no official build or is there?)
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Andromadus merges nearly everything from CyanogenMod's ICS branch (I think). This is apparent in the system settings such as lock screen customizations, notification bar toggles, etc. YES, it's worth a try!!
Andromadus. At least til cm9 comes out
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Andromadus. At least til cm9 comes out
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It looks like an official vision build of cm9 may never come out
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blk_jack said:
It looks like an official vision build of cm9 may never come out
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Cyanogen himself has a desire z so we'll get a official build when HTC stops dragging there feet and releases the desire hd kernel source.
That aside I too was a little iffy about flashing Androdamus being that there were a lot of bugs in the earlier beta's, So I waited a few months I'm glad that I did its good enuff to be used as a daily driver now. Depending on your battery (I bought a htc extended one over a month ago) the life will vary on heavy usage I get about 4 to 5 hrs, On Moderate I get 8 plus.
Andromadus is a HUGE upgrade from CM7 not only is it a newer version of Android but everything is more organized as far as settings and features go. Flash it if u don't like it you can always go back. . .
I stuck with CM6 until a week ago, tried CM9.
(totally skipped GB).
I flashed the CM9 and Andro ROMs.
I stuck with Andro since the camera actually worked...
So far - way less battery life, laggier than CM6 (our phones don't have the HP needed it's snappy enough for everyday use, it's just... you know, it's not like a dual core 1.4GHz phone). Lots of little bugs (missed notifications? can't use google voice / gtalk voice, graphical glitches sometimes, crashing programs, hanging) but if you only use a few apps and browse simple sites / check news it's not so bad.
Since you're on XDA it's almost safe to assume this won't phase you too much. It's not "THAT" bad, but it is definitely not like a commercial release yet. Many many things being worked out BUT it's definitely "usable".
I'm still using it It's just very annoying to have to update reimport contacts etc when new versions of the ROM come out. (I don't use contact sync). It's also annoying because of the app crashes or things that "don't work" like instagram etc. However, it looks way better than froyo!
If all your looking for is pretty, just use gingerbread with an ics theme
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does anyone know how to overclock DesireZ on Andromadus?
c00ller said:
I believe yes, it is certainly ready for everyday use. I haven't gotten many glitches/freezes since beta 2 (even then a glitch or reboot might happen once a week max). Pretty much everything works (mms, camera has no preview glitch, etc).
IMO it's an upgrade feature wise. Many system apps and functions are just more polished IMO (contacts, dialer with google voice integration, etc). Battery life is noticeably worse than CM7 but I am still able to get through a day with no issues (my CM7 battery life ranged from 28-36 hours while Andromadus seems to be more like 19-28 depending on my usage).
Andromadus merges nearly everything from CyanogenMod's ICS branch (I think). This is apparent in the system settings such as lock screen customizations, notification bar toggles, etc. YES, it's worth a try!!
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excellent answer,btw,this rom also have some bugs i think ,some apps cant work perfectly,yeah,bugs maybe come from apps....
everything works perfect,but phone seems to delay a few munites than cm7.sorry for my bad english
Using this one, works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461
Dear friends,
I have had some problems with my battery, as you can check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659525
I don't know if I have been spoiled by Nokia, because I had a Nokia E72 with a tiny screen a 1500Ah battery (Two days connected with EDGE/Wifi updating Whatsapp and Gravity).
I just need Whatsapp and any Twitter application running al the time.. 3G or HSPDA is not a must, I could live with EDGE for battery saving.
I have tried:
Stock 2.3 ROM
Oxygen COS'ed
CM7 RC1
Minwild 4.9 CM
I don't care about fancy widgets and so... I just want battery life... sometimes I use the screen with 10% brightness!
Please, help me! Help will be highly appreciated.
PD: Moto RZR MAXX is too expensive
PD2: I'm using lastest radio and have not messed with Kernels, always using the one that comes with each ROM.
PD3: Testing is so easy, I wonder if someone have done that before? Install ROM, install whatsapp and twitter, config, fully charge, see it discharge and take the time and try with another ROM, right know I don't have the time, but that's what I want to do...!
Bets regards.
Far as I know those roms aren't exactly power hungry.
ManU kernel is recognized for batter saving.
You can use with MildWild CM version.
For oxygen I think you have to use thalamus kernel.
I'm using Oxygen V4 MildWild with latest thalamus kernel and with normal use (wifi once in a while but usually switched off, some browsing, some phone calls, some texts and even a little game once in a while) it lasts me a full day. If I play too much, the battery can last as three hours (with bat, intensive games).
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Far as I know those roms aren't exactly power hungry.
ManU kernel is recognized for batter saving.
You can use with MildWild CM version.
For oxygen I think you have to use thalamus kernel.
I'm using Oxygen V4 MildWild with latest thalamus kernel and with normal use (wifi once in a while but usually switched off, some browsing, some phone calls, some texts and even a little game once in a while) it lasts me a full day. If I play too much, the battery can last as three hours (with bat, intensive games).
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Thanks...
Which ROM uses ManU kernel? I'd like to try that one.
Right now I'm using Oxygen Cosed with Thalamus (I think)
I dont think there is a rom that uses ManU kernel by default. But as long as a rom is based on CM7 I believe you can replace the default one with ManU.
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Anything without Sense, or without ICS.
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Anything without Sense, or without ICS.
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Not entirely true. Oxygen rom and those that use it as base need to use Thalamus kernel. Using ManU on Oxygen roms for example will break your camera.
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stankyou said:
Not entirely true. Oxygen rom and those that use it as base need to use Thalamus kernel. Using ManU on Oxygen roms for example will break your camera.
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Thanks for your answer.
What do you mean by breaking the camera? I suppose only software...!
Thanks for letting me know that, I was going to flash ManU kernell with Oxygen Cosed! So I'll flash it over MinWildCM.
There is a lot of reading about roms but not about kernels!
peikojose said:
Thanks for your answer.
What do you mean by breaking the camera? I suppose only software...!
Thanks for letting me know that, I was going to flash ManU kernell with Oxygen Cosed! So I'll flash it over MinWildCM.
There is a lot of reading about roms but not about kernels!
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The camera just wont work. I flashed ManU on Oxygen rom before.
peikojose said:
Dear friends,
I have had some problems with my battery, as you can check here.
Bets regards.
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The best rom for battery, performance and stability is none other than GINGER VILLAIN. If you look at the screenshot most of juice is gone into display as I like 100% display. I am sure you can save further battery with switching off wifi, mobile data, gps, vibrations, display etc. But this rom is pretty much beating other rooms. Only problem people find is there are no future updates for this rom. If you looking for above all then go for this rom.
Hit thanks if it helps you.
Cheers
Raj
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
When you realize it is mostly a kernel thing, silliness off "best rom for battery" phrases will struck you like an epiphany.
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I gave my old desire to my brother because the battery was dying , before I do so, I flashed MUIU rom, it seems fine when he is using it
OxygenMod worked well for me well.
erklat said:
When you realize it is mostly a kernel thing, silliness off "best rom for battery" phrases will struck you like an epiphany.
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And that would be about 50% correct. The rom does play an important role on battery consuption.
I know you asked about ROMs, but if you dont mind a thicker phone you could also consider an extended battery. I'm using a Cameron Sino 2400MAH battery, cost me £7 from Amazon UK and I get between 30 - 38 hours out of my Desire, depending on use. That's with ICS for Desire by Sandvold installed.
I cant post links yet but take a look at batteryboss.org and it mentions it as being "not a bad deal".
ICS works fine for me
I use the BCM - Ice Cream Sandwich from CM9 Source and it works fine for me. Been up for almost 16 hours with decent usage and pretty poor cell signal the whole time.
The lowest battery drain I've had was using Mildwild's Oxygen Based. Nearly 2 days of battery with pretty decent usage. See the attachments below: you might found them a bit dark cause they were made with screen filter at 50%.
- During night, phone had 2G (GPRS).
- Screen on-time: 3 hours, above 50% usage.
- Always with WiFi or HDSPA (3G) excepts during nights.
With battery perfectly calibrated (it shutdowns at 0%).