DeFroST or OpenDesire? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have used both and loved both equally. But I want a cleaner and faster ROM, so which is preferable?

For me OD is faster.
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thanks to the best opendesire
opendesire is fast and stable my friends. and the best rom on market thats what i think

Have used both and personally find DeFrost is my favourite but it's all subjective in my opinion. Whichever you choose you're going to get a good rom supported by a good dev.
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Maybe it's just me but I feel that there is better support for OD than DeFroST. My questions on OD get answered fast without the need to bump them. While in the DeFroST thread, I have to bump a few times and then I won't get an answer sometimes too.

Went to bed with 59% battery, woke up 9 hours later finding that it's dead. And that's with OpenDesire. Recommend DeFroST atm matey/

Defrost all the way to go, imho
Regards

I've had DeFrost since I got by Desire back in May sometime. Switched to OpenDesire yesterday for no real reason. It is a bit cleaner from scratch. In other aspects, they're quite the same in normal day to day usage.

fterh said:
I have used both and loved both equally. But I want a cleaner and faster ROM, so which is preferable?
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I've used pretty much all releases of both roms, deFrost has always been the most stable.

Dunno if its my fault, but going to bed with OD at 70% and finding it dead next Day isn't much fun but seems to be faster and more stable. But i have to look what's so Battery draining.. :/

I love both and switch between the two depending on the current release. Both are outstanding ROM's...

For those who are experiencing poor battery life in Open Desire, Perhaps there is a process hogging your CPU cycles. Get the app "Android System Information" from the market, go to the Tasks tab, and go menu -> Sort by CPU Usage. "android.process.acore" (there were two of these) was taking up 100%. Once killed, overall usage dropped from 40-ish% to 5%, and battery life was somewhere in the vicinity of 4% lost in 6 hours. I don't know why that process every now and then takes up 100% of my usage -there are threads about it scattered throughout the various forums. When I was using ADW Launcher, the problem was much more common, such that when you added or moved or removed a widget, the problem would arise again. Launcher Pro has given me less problems.
I suppose I'm just saying - see if killing android.process.acore fixes your battery life. (i realise if it does do anything that it may only be a temporary solution.
Josh.

i find both OD and DF almost the same. Open Desire feels much original in every sense, where DeFrost does now take things from others like Cynogen. But thats ok as one cant develop all things by himself.
2 things i really really miss in both of them though is,
1) friend stream widget
2) FM Radio
Both are good and it depends on which one you try and wanna keep on ur device. But yes both looks the same, performance wise i find them alike,

Make a Vote thread then : )

Tried both and switch between them a fair amount. At the moment, I prefer Defrost because it deals with activesync better than OD and I use that for work e-mails.
Neither is very good at displaying the correct contact pics in the launcher pro widget to be honest. I also found that OD was force closing the facebook app.

Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.

DeFroST all the way. OpenDesire is only there if you want to wake up the next morning with no alarm and finding that your desire have gone walkies to it's grave because it died.

atomfix said:
OpenDesire is only there if you want to wake up the next morning with no alarm and finding that your desire have gone walkies to it's grave because it died.
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i've never had either of these problems, been using OpenDesire since v1.1.

AdamG said:
Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.
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Dude are you kidding? If you are serious, I'll flash OD right away. No offense dude but coming from you it seems a little biased.

AdamG said:
Defrost is a clone of OD and has been since v2.6, there is no difference other than Defrost having more apps.
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why do you tell it 10 times a hour? we now know it. thank you.

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[Q] Will rooting to 2.3 disable htcsense.com?

Hi! I got my shiny new Desire HD yesterday (upgraded from an iphone) and by god do I love it, just perfect for me.
Although with it comes a lot of.. junk that I simply do not need (scrolling through a good 30 apps just to get to my most used), plus I heard that 2.3 (Specifically Cyanogenmod 7) brings with it better battery, better performance and with it being rooted, more features.
I'm looking to root it as soon as possible before I start putting a lot of things on it, rather than do a lot with it now and then have to do it again a couple months down the road.
My main question is, I love htcsense.com and I love the extra features it gives me, especially being able to track the phone, gives me much needed peace of mind, if I root to a 2.3 ROM (probably cm7) will htcsense.com no longer work?
Thankyou for any/all replies, oh and a little quickie at the end, I'm planning to go with cm7 because it seems the most basic and customizable for my needs, and battery life is a huge plus for me as I'm planning to use this beauty in and around college, is cm7 a good idea?
Thank you and have a great day.
If that HTC feature relies on having the app on the phone then it wont work as CM7 is not a Sense ROM and contains no sense applications.
Neither do I believe simply installing the apk, if possible, would work.
Be nice to be wrong though.
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Ahh, so in short, no?
Fair enough, is there a way to install the part needed for it to work after rooting it with cm7?
Probably not. Again, hope I'm wrong because it is a great utility that would otherwise cost you (Wavesecure app for example and I believe one of the anti-virus apps provides same functionality).
If anyone has the apk I'd happily try it but IIRC the apps rely on the Sense framework.
Bear with me, just checking this out.
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Confirmed. Without the apk installed the phone can't communicate with the HTC servers.
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Hi there,
i've recently rooted my Desire HD (and upgraded to 2.3.3) & I can tell you that HTCsense still works. No idea about if it still works on non-sense roms such as CM7 or not.
I've been using RCMix and Android Revolution roms in the past week & both of them are a lot better than the stock Froyo that my phone came with though.
Did a search and found an apk but it is confirmed that it will not run on AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod.
The only option you have would be to run a Sense based ROM then install something like ADW.Launcher which has categorised app drawer (meaning you can choose what apps appear).
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Thankyou for the replies you've really helped.
Does sense rom mean, a rom that has HTC sense enabled? I assume it does.
Also, if I want to get 2.3+ android with sense so I can use the htcsense.com service, which rom would be best to root too? I've only ever heard of cm7, that's about it.
Thanks again!
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
h3dfuk said:
Coredroid is a sense ROM. Pretty good too. If your main concern is tracking your phone, why don't you try Lookout from the marketplace. its free and is also a very good virus checker too!
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Does it improve the battery life at all?
Oh also, is it easy to change back to the original ROM that came with the phone in-case of any warranty issues? Coredroid just doesn't look as.. polished as cyanogen, I could be completely wrong though.
If so, I'll root it today! Love the community by the way, I can't say anything bad about the iPhone community really, although they seem to care a lot less.
Does rooting to an Android 2.3 ROM bring everything that normal Android 2.3 brings and then depending on the ROM, special things? So it doesn't matter what ROM I get that's 2.3 they'll all have 2.3 Android features?
Do a backup in Tom manager in case you want to go back to your previous rom. Coredroid is a very fast rom IMO, but its dependent on how you use it much like any other rom really.
batery life is better than stock but again you will need to be mindful of gps and wifi etc. An awesome gingerbread kernel to improve battery life does not yet exist.
Fantastic, I'll give CoreDroid a try then, thankyou for your help, you've been very useful and informative.
One last thing before I begin the process, what is Tom manager? I did a quick google search and a look into the market but found nothing, did you mean Rom manager?
my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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my bad. I have auto correction on. I meant ROM manager.
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Ahh, I got it and I'm trying to backup my current ROM but I need to install "clockwordmod recovery" and whenever I try I get a "An error occurred while attempting to run privilged commands!" which is a shame.
Oh, and is there an up-to-date guide on how to root? Pardon my ignorance.
You need root first.
There's several "how to's" in the development forum. More information than we could put here (or should).
Sorry, I'm being incredibly silly, I keep getting ROM's and rooting mixed up, I'm in the process of rooting it now then I'll install a ROM, I haven't decided which yet but I might.. shop around, sorta speak.
Thanks for the help guys, take care.
Because sense apps aren't running in background, Cyanogen should be less stressful on the battery. However stock roms are usually not developed to maximize battery life in the same way custom roms are (afterall, battery life is a bugbear for developers too!). With this in mind, Coredroid even with sense is still better on your battery life than stock sense. Its all dependent on how you use it though (turn off GPS and wifi when no longer required etc..). Intensive use will naturally drain your battery sooner than conservative use. If you find battery life a pain with any rom, you could try juice defender free to automatically regulate consumption of battery.
Best advice, try a number of mods every week or so, and settle on one you like once you've experienced them. You souls also download battery calibrator from market and use after every flash to help you with the battery.
After a little soulsearching I'm going to give RCMixHD a try, it seems very popular which is usually a good sign, it has sense 3.0 and 2.3.3 Android so it's practically perfect.
The only thing I'm puzzled by now is "radios" I've worked out that they determine call reception and 3G+HSPDA whatnots, but do I actually need a new one before/after flashing to a new ROM? There seems to be a lot of radios out there and I have no clue which to go with and what they do.
Oh, also, does overclocking your phone as you have done have a huge impact on the battery life? I assume it has atleast some impact.
Only certain roms currently support overclocking, with some having the ability only after a kernel flash. CM7.0.2 however comes with ability without need to install anything else. You will need SetCPU to overclock and select a governor to regulate how power is maintained. You need to set minimum frequency when phone is idle etc.. It's easier than it sounds but do read into the overclocking threads for dhd we have here if in any doubt.

Best Sense ROM atm?

Hi folks,
What do you consider to be the best, fastest, most stable, battery saving, whatever Sense ROM for the Desire atm and why?
Simple question, but there are so many GB 2.1 Sense + some 3.0 Sense etc. kinda ROM's out there that it might be interesting to see which one is clearly XDA's favourite and why. What is the difference between all these ROM's and why do you use the one you flashed?
Any answers/input is highly appreciated
Feel free to discuss...
There is no best rom at all. It depends on personal preferences. Just test.
Oh great another best Rom thread to add to the other 100 already made.....
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I will recommend AcesMod007, it's very fast, stable with good battery
i would thoroughly recommend insertcoin,
i have been running it for the last few weeks/month and so far i am very happy with it,
the only problem seems to be 720p video recording lag and also it stretches videos in portrait mode but they come out ok when played on pc,
apart from that i get no lag at all when using the phone, battery isnt as bad as people say and the sense 2.1/3.0 mix is rather sexy,
all taht said i would also recommend to try out a couple of roms, just remember to take a nandroid backup and revert back to a previous one if/when you wish,
Mine is surely not the best. But you can give a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178
I am on AcesMod007 (not 3d) and am also constantly searching for fastest sense rom (but must be very stable).
Previous rom was rcmix 2.0 - a GREAT rom, actually perfect for me, but I could always use less lag (esp. when scrolling), and that's why I am now trying AcesMod007.
I still cannot say it's much faster than rcmix, and it lags a little on the lock screen. On remix, lock screen never lagged (I use the normal - wallpaper one) Scrolling is much better, though.
To the future "Oh no, another best rom thread" remarks:
I like to read these threads and find them very informative. I am sure that many others do, too. Just don't join, read or reply if you don't like them. And roms are constantly evolving, especially for our beloved Desire! So a fresh start every now and then is really great imho.
sudkcoce said:
I am on AcesMod007 (not 3d) and am also constantly searching for fastest sense rom (but must be very stable).
Previous rom was rcmix 2.0 - a GREAT rom, actually perfect for me, but I could always use less lag (esp. when scrolling), and that's why I am now trying AcesMod007.
I still cannot say it's much faster than rcmix, and it lags a little on the lock screen. On remix, lock screen never lagged (I use the normal - wallpaper one) Scrolling is much better, though.
To the future "Oh no, another best rom thread" remarks:
I like to read these threads and find them very informative. I am sure that many others do, too. Just don't join, read or reply if you don't like them. And roms are constantly evolving, especially for our beloved Desire! So a fresh start every now and then is really great imho.
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Hi Sudkcoe,
I'm also on the .v32 of AcesMod007 (not 3d) and had the lag on the lockscreen too. Also had it in .v31
Today I tried the little update from PlayPetepp which pretty much eliminated the lag prob.
Check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16641755&postcount=1485
If you look further in the main post it'll tell you where to copy the 3 files to.
Hope it help
JaisonGJI1815 said:
Hi Sudkcoe,
I'm also on the .v32 of AcesMod007 (not 3d) and had the lag on the lockscreen too. Also had it in .v31
Today I tried the little update from PlayPetepp which pretty much eliminated the lag prob.
Check out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16641755&postcount=1485
If you look further in the main post it'll tell you where to copy the 3 files to.
Hope it help
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Also just to let you know when my screen is off the phone uses anything between 5mA to 15mA
Hi,
Thanks for all the replies so far. I am currently on LeeDoird GB 3.0.8.2 and I really like it. It is fast, stable and together with SetCPU and Juice Defender i get easily 3-4 days of juice out of my desire
However, no Sense 3.0 And not sure how long this version will still get updates cause Lee starts focusing on his HD port and other devices...
So thats why i thought a best Sense-ROM thread might be useful, especially because there's lots of movement/developments recently and lots of ROMs look pretty similar but are so different when you flash em: So keep the feedback coming
I am still looking for my perfect Sense-ROM ^^
LeeDroid 3.3.3 HD. I've just come from AcesMod007 (v29) and have seen battery life almost double, fantastic stability, no FC's or anything. I'll be sticking with this for some time methinks.
I'll definitely check out the HD Lee Droid sometime soon. However, reports vary from awesome to a little buggy so i am not sure what to think of it yet...
I have two friends who too were on Aces007 move to this and they confirm my findings, it's extremely stable and battery life is massively improved.
Mahlzahn said:
Hi,
Thanks for all the replies so far. I am currently on LeeDoird GB 3.0.8.2 and I really like it. It is fast, stable and together with SetCPU and Juice Defender i get easily 3-4 days of juice out of my desire
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You can not get easily 3-4 days in any rom with desire if you use your phone at all...
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Try coolexe`s roms
Xinot said:
You can not get easily 3-4 days in any rom with desire if you use your phone at all...
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I had 3 days and 8 hours on battery and like 20% left. During these 3 days, as i already stated, i didn't use it a lot except for some calls, sms and the active email sync (once an hour). I even listened to music for 5 minutes...so believe it or not. Why should i bull**** here
If you use it normally (including surfing, readings newssfeeds, listening to music) i still get 2 days easily.
I have tried most sense Roms including insertcoin, acemod but I have found sense 1.9 ROMs the quickest and most stable.
Teppics Rom is very good but the best is leedroid 3.0.8.2 as it does not lag at all.
I'm on AceSMod007-3D atm. Its all works surprisingly well and there is very little lag when simply moving about the homescreen. There's been lag with some widgets apparently but i only use weather and mail and they both seem fine. Also don't use the system restore in it. i did after screwing up my contacts and it screwed up all the A2SD+ stuff, had to uninstall and re-install all my apps to free up space on my internal again.
I use Insert Coin at the moment after using CM7 for a while.
I have seen a good improvement in responsiveness and battery life, I get through the day most of the time, but battery could still be better.
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i would thoroughly recommend insertcoin
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I agree. Simply awesome... although the snooze/ dismiss buttons on the lock screen are fiddly... maybe it's just me

Acesmod 007 -battery life and performance

Hey xda
I come from cyanogen7 and went for the acesmod rom because I was missing the nice widgets, looks, and overall performance of sense. I have now spend some time on acesmod and I must say that it looks very nice and I especially think that the sense keyboard works a lot better when writing danish.
My problem is now that I find acesmod drinking my battery like crazy. Besides this I find it to be lagging a lot and not that smooth a experience that one could expect.
Do anybody know what I could do about this. Have you guys experiences the same.
Alternatively I am open to other sense based roms.
Thanks xda people!
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sense roms do use considerably more battery than cm7 roms, nothing you can really do about it apart from maybe calibrate your battery, theres a thread on here about how to do it
Again, calibration is not to be used to increase battery performance... Disable htc.com sync, use as less widgets and let them sync as rarely as possible. Disable pocket mode too, sign out of Latitude and make sure that your market and maps are not in the foreground when you turn your screen off as they won't release the wakelock then.
I can hear that there is not much I can do. Had every updating things disabled and also got the black wallpaper for power saving.
Are there then any sense based roms you would prefer over acesmod 007?
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I have good battery life on 007 mod.... But I have used only sense roms, so I cannot compare it to others.
mine life battery is good, try using andrev_oc
andrev_oc? (This is only my second rom)
see here how to install
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16803896&postcount=355
hope it helps
edit: with ES File Explorer (in settings tick the root explorer and mount file system) copy the freqs to system/etc/andrev_oc
Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
The new 007 mod (v39) has even better battery life!
And the speed...
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Interesting... I have tried a few Sense ROMs and was quite dissapointed by the performance, memory consumption and battery life, went to CyanogenMod 7.1 and now tried Acesmod007.
For me, it does everyhing as smooth as cyanogen, and something obviously very strange - the same or maybe even longer battery time. A full day with gmail sync, active gtalk usage, a little browsing, ~25min of calls, messaging... on 2G+3G and (mostly) WiFi. And the battery level is still not very low.
I'm very happy with this
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and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
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and you dragged up an old thread to post this why exactly?
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It's definitely more informative than what you've posted... :-\

[Q] Yet another whats best ROM thread! [Answered]

Hello All,
I been a rooted HTC Desire user for quite sometime and my missus dislikes this very much because every month I will be stuck at my computer searching the XDA forum for my ideal ROM.
I know it is all down to personal preference and I have done a fair bit of searching before starting my own thread. (Also I have less than 10 posts so its a good start)
What I want in a ROM is fast and smooth as a prio.
Good battery usage and Stable.
Possibility to use a ext3/4 partition.
Not so import:
I love the ICS look and launcher but having used ADW Launcher and GoLauncher I prefer to just have a launcher built into a ROM. This made me find MildWild 4.3 and 5.0
I been using Oxygen 2.3.2 for quite sometime at the moment and never really had any problem apart from the very occasional soft reboot (Where the home screen reloads and welcome message appears)
So I tried MildWild 4.3 based on Oxy which so many people praised where the first thing I did was go into Spare Parts viewed battery history and BAM, Force Closes. So tried a full wipe but this still kept happening.
So I tried 5.0 but for some other reason that I cannot recall I was not getting a long with this (I think the lack of T9)
So yeah, what do people think would be ideal for me? I been watching Sandvolds work for sometime and even used the ICS rom but I would prefer a fully stable ROM that I can use day to day and take pictures of my family.
Sorry for the wall of text but hopefully people can give me their opinions. :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904496
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
I'm starting to regret the day I made my username.. people calling me Abaaaabbbb...
Anyways, your welcome.
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Ryukain said:
Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
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The cyanogenmod settings under settings? It shouldn't crash
The battery tap under spare parts, yes, it crashed on mine also and crashes on some roms. So not to worry there
Sorry about replying, I know it's been answered but just clearing that up
No, the Cyanogenmod settings are great, always have been when I using CM7.1
But when you dive right in under the System and Update Notifications, but when I looked in the development thread it seems MW stripped out that feature
Didn't need it anyway.
Thanks for posting!
Yea..happens to everyone.
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[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
demkantor said:
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
demkantor said:
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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