I am a fng but i was wondering if anyone had any opinions on this root compared to the 2.1, like speed, battery life, tethering, freezing overclocking etc.
What you're really asking is whether the stock 2.2 ROM has any of those advantages over 2.1. Root has nothing to do with it.
PS - You're an f-ing what?
f-ing new guy and thank you
What I dont understand is, I used it last night before "part 2" was posted. I then was able to install CM6 with no problem. Then I saw part 2 today, followed the instructions, and now I cant install CM6. i dont understand why cm6 worked after root last night, but not today.
Other than that, yeah, I'm rooted. but want/need wifi tether capabilities.
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f-ing new guy and thank you
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Ah, I see. Kids and their acronyms.
You think with HTC finally about to release their root tools, you think they'll release it for the Evo's latest OTA? just want to hear some opinions. Here's the site btw http://www.htcdev.com/
Nope, at least not for awhile. And there are no "root tools".
I seriously doubt it, but my fingers are crossed. The OG EVO is on its way out the door to for the 3D and stuff to take center stage. Don't worry though, root has been found by TeamWin, they're just working on making it safe to use and not brick phones. I read they found an exploit in the mobile browser, so it's just a matter of time before it comes out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209457
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I seriously doubt it, but my fingers are crossed. The OG EVO is on its way out the door to for the 3D and stuff to take center stage. Don't worry though, root has been found by TeamWin, they're just working on making it safe to use and not brick phones. I read they found an exploit in the mobile browser, so it's just a matter of time before it comes out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209457
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I don't believe we are 100% certain this will work with Android 2.3.3 or that it can be used to obtain root. But I'm really hoping... And it shows that there are still options out there.
Also, Agrabren has been working specifically on rooting the EVO 4G. Two days ago on Twitter he said something like "Hope is not required, just patience".
Ive been reading on xda ever since i had a hero and rooted it using some guides on here and decided i would finally post lol. Upgraded my evo to e4gt on 28th of sept and havent looked back.
I rooted it last night using crawrj deodexed with busybox and its been running great so props for that. I have only experienced LOS twice since i have had my phone but those were instances that i was actually out of signal and it came back once i was out of the deadzone. So overall i love the e4gt compared to my evo .
Anyone else come from the evo to the e4gt? Also after rooting this phone any sweet mods that are must have yet? Thanks
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Ive been reading on xda ever since i had a hero and rooted it using some guides on here and decided i would finally post lol. Upgraded my evo to e4gt on 28th of sept and havent looked back.
I rooted it last night using crawrj deodexed with busybox and its been running great so props for that. I have only experienced LOS twice since i have had my phone but those were instances that i was actually out of signal and it came back once i was out of the deadzone. So overall i love the e4gt compared to my evo .
Anyone else come from the evo to the e4gt? Also after rooting this phone any sweet mods that are must have yet? Thanks
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I, too, came from the EVO4G to the E4GT. If you're having LoS issues try the LoST Kernel and if you wanna try a custom ROM try out Calkulin's (new but my favorite), ViperROM or StarBurst.
Evo4g>EVO3d>Photon>ET4g
jonnyisback said:
Ive been reading on xda ever since i had a hero and rooted it using some guides on here and decided i would finally post lol. Upgraded my evo to e4gt on 28th of sept and havent looked back.
I rooted it last night using crawrj deodexed with busybox and its been running great so props for that. I have only experienced LOS twice since i have had my phone but those were instances that i was actually out of signal and it came back once i was out of the deadzone. So overall i love the e4gt compared to my evo .
Anyone else come from the evo to the e4gt? Also after rooting this phone any sweet mods that are must have yet? Thanks
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I came from EVO4G (which I absolutely loved) to EVO3D (HATED except for the 3D) to E4GT and this phone by far is the best one of all three.
I loved my evo 4g as well, my fiancee is using it now as i added a second line and moved my number to the new phone (e4gt) and gave her the evo . I do have a question, i odined this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415
and i am trying to make sure this did not change my kernel. I was completely stock before this so by what i read in his thread i should still have the kernel the phone came with correct?
My next question is can i odin this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099
which would be the same kernel i have at the moment but with root and cwm because i am currently rooted now correct?
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I loved my evo 4g as well, my fiancee is using it now as i added a second line and moved my number to the new phone (e4gt) and gave her the evo . I do have a question, i odined this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415
and i am trying to make sure this did not change my kernel. I was completely stock before this so by what i read in his thread i should still have the kernel the phone came with correct?
My next question is can i odin this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099
which would be the same kernel i have at the moment but with root and cwm because i am currently rooted now correct?
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The first one contains no kernel, so it's definitly stock, just rooted.
second is stock also.
Okay so the second one would keep root but add cwm. Thanks
okay so now i am rooted with cwm5 and stock pulled kernel with no yellow triangle on splash screen, thanks for the help guys
I started out with the HTC Hero as well, i upgraded to the HTC Evo and i loved it but i wanted the Evo Shift so not too much of a change there. But i got this phone about october 25 and i never looked back once, what an amazing phone this is, sure it feel like plastic but thats because they wanted a light weight phone.
I just rooted for the first time two nights ago and been having issues with media because of a file ".nomedia" that file tends to stop the SD scan so it skips over pictures, music and other things but since i removed it i can play music and see my pictures again except a few that the file locked them some how. but Since Calkulin came in the picture to E4GT that made the E4GT a much better phone :-D
Lol ya, i was kind of scared to root at first because of all the LOS reports after rooting but once they came out with the stock pulled with cwm its all good now really no reason not to root and boy do i love odin, makes life easy compared to when i first rooted the hero and evo by using command prompt and adb lol..... This phone is great, no actual LOS issues for me but i hope samsung/sprint release an update so everyone can enjoy the phone for what a beast it is.
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Lol ya, i was kind of scared to root at first because of all the LOS reports after rooting but once they came out with the stock pulled with cwm its all good now really no reason not to root and boy do i love odin, makes life easy compared to when i first rooted the hero and evo by using command prompt and adb lol..... This phone is great, no actual LOS issues for me but i hope samsung/sprint release an update so everyone can enjoy the phone for what a beast it is.
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lol i agree, i was thinking this odin stuff was going to be confusing, since i knew HTC phone used HTC sync for phone drivers. but when i found out needed samsung kies on the PC to get the drivers and started up odin it was a breeze, never thought rooting could be so easy. Since rooting the HTC Evo Shift from 2.3.3 was a PAIN where had to downgrade the Hboot.
I had one incident where i lost signal but that was the kernal i tested for a sec, i ended up going back to LoStKernelExp+ which is the bomb and glad Clakulin decided to use it.
I just came to the E4GT from the OG Evo myself, it's amazing. CM7 was nice but the blazing speed on this thing really is something to behold!
Guys OG Evo owner here myself... I still have both phone as I love them equally now. So I just flashed one of the OG Evos best developers roms... Caulkin is making roms for us guys so check it out here
The good ole days are back...lol
Going to get the E4GT today. Charging circuit went to hell on my EVO and it's way out of warranty. I can pay the $100 insurance deductible and get a refurbed EVO, or upgrade with $90 buyback on the EVO and get the E4GT for $110.
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For those of us OG Evo folks who moved to the E4GT, how do you root it without getting LOS?
I have never gotten LOS on my E4GT & that has been what has given me pause in rooting. i really miss TI backup & a few other pieces of software. Teather would be nice too (Granted the web browsing speeds are too damm slow to bother).
Anyone want to point me in an OG Evo friendly direction on what & how to do it all?
I am starting to feel like I might join the Verizon bandwagon with the NP. I am getting sick of the unusable data speeds.
Thanks,
Rich
check out my original post on this thread, it has both .tars that i used to odin onto my phone to get root+stock pulled kernel + CWM5 and you should be set. LOS is not really caused by root, its an underlying problem in the hardware/software from what ive read on the forum and some kernels can cause it to happen more often and others less often. I am using the stock pulled kernel which is the exact same that is on unrooted phones so if you get LOS with that you would have gotten it with no root as well.
I've had my E4GT for about 2 or 3 weeks now, I received the OTA update to FI27 last week, and overall I'm pretty happy with it (I was happy before the update though, but to be honest because I only had the phone a few days I haven't noticed a difference ).
I rooted my last phone, which was a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V, but that was because Virgin loaded it with a bunch of bloatware and there was a very good ROM that removed all of it, improved battery life, etc etc.
But with this phone, I don't find I have any issues with battery life, I have plenty of space on my phone with way more apps installed than I had on the Optimus, it runs smoothly, and the only complaint I have is that my LED notification light isn't working correctly, which I know can be fixed with an app.
So, to all the people that have rooted and know what else this phone can do, is there a good reason other than "you can install lots of different custom roms" that I should root my phone? What else will I be able to do with it? What benefits will I see? Installing different ROMs doesn't mean much to me. Even though I did that on my old phone, there was a real reason to do it: I could install more than 4 apps on it (and I kept that same ROM on it the entire time). I don't have that issue with this phone, so why should I?
Thanks
I personally consider customization, removing bloatware, and tweaking to your own liking genuine and legitimate reasons. You also have Ad blocking & WiFi tether though.
You shouldn't if you are happy with it.
I rooted for those reasons..
-Tired of stock look. Install new roms.
-Use apps needing root like titaniun backup.
-Get rid of stock apps.
I didnt root for almost 2 months. I was eager to try ics leaks before ota so I eventually rooted.
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I personally consider customization, removing bloatware, and tweaking to your own liking genuine and legitimate reasons. You also have Ad blocking & WiFi tether though.
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Well this is what I don't really understand. What sort of customization and tweaking can be done to the phone? What are the effects of it?
BluesRulez said:
You shouldn't if you are happy with it.
I rooted for those reasons..
-Tired of stock look. Install new roms.
-Use apps needing root like titaniun backup.
-Get rid of stock apps.
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Don't you really only need Titanium Backup if you are gonna be rooting though? The bloatware I can deal with as the phone hasn't (yet) told me that I don't have enough space to stop me from installing new apps.
mewikime said:
I've had my E4GT for about 2 or 3 weeks now, I received the OTA update to FI27 last week, and overall I'm pretty happy with it (I was happy before the update though, but to be honest because I only had the phone a few days I haven't noticed a difference ).
I rooted my last phone, which was a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V, but that was because Virgin loaded it with a bunch of bloatware and there was a very good ROM that removed all of it, improved battery life, etc etc.
But with this phone, I don't find I have any issues with battery life, I have plenty of space on my phone with way more apps installed than I had on the Optimus, it runs smoothly, and the only complaint I have is that my LED notification light isn't working correctly, which I know can be fixed with an app.
So, to all the people that have rooted and know what else this phone can do, is there a good reason other than "you can install lots of different custom roms" that I should root my phone? What else will I be able to do with it? What benefits will I see? Installing different ROMs doesn't mean much to me. Even though I did that on my old phone, there was a real reason to do it: I could install more than 4 apps on it (and I kept that same ROM on it the entire time). I don't have that issue with this phone, so why should I?
Thanks
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There is no reason for you to root. You are happy that's good.
XDA's 4,697,117+ Members are just nuts. We're unhappy with our stuff and insist on making it less useful to us.
Nothing to see here....
Seriously if you need to ask and don't want to investigate for yourself then rooting and certainly these forums are not for you.
I root because
- Hate Touchwiz look
- Customization
- Themes
- Battery Saving options
- AOSP (AOKP)
- JELLYBEAN
- Better reception and data
You may be happy with bloat. I do not want battery resources going to apps I will never open. I like battery life. I like optimization. I like customization. If you don't see a need then don't do it. But if your phone ever drowns don't complain that you lost all your game data or texts and stuff. With titanium backup I can even set a schedule to back up those items for me at whatever time to my sd card. So if my phone drowns I pop my as card into my new phone and its all there. Also make nandroids when I receive my replacement its like my phone never died. Its all exactly how I had it.
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I run stock 90% of the time.
My main reason to root at least after FF18
-Tethering
-Tethering nothing more
I said after FF18 because on Gingerbread there's no need to root for tethering thanks to FoxFi but since ICS, Sprint block it and they are working on a new version for ICS when they found a way again I'm back to Stock.
Do what you want!
That is what is most important.
If there was any legitimate reason, it would be because you want to.
Otherwise you are just following what someone else says. Of course, there are very good reasons for both. The one thing I am told a lot by people on the other end of the phone conversation consistently, is that there seems to be feedback and they hear themselves a lot(- since I started Modding). What do I care, I hear everyone just fine. But I do care. I use my phone for work a lot. NOW, someone else is going to post after this that you can play with modems and what not to clear this up... which is true. And also you can reflash and do this & do that. What if the person using the phone just wants simplicity.... stay stock! Do not pass go. It takes tweeking, fine adjustments, research and ROM updates(The almighty Search box on XDA is awesome) and time to figure some of this stuff out. And ALSO it doesn't hurt to have an interest in android, Apps, ROMs and so on and so on.
Sometimes either the manufacturer or the carrier sends out updates that just don't work well. I like having the ability to keep it working properly, not working the way Sprint thinks is best for me.
You have only had your phone for a month. I have had mine for about a year, and others here have had it longer. If you are trying to convince us not to root, you should spend your time on the Sprint message boards instead of here.
Your happy that's what matters. Your choice
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It comes down to personal choice. Android is customizable right out of the box. It is even more so once you root and get under the hood.
Agreed with all that say it's your choice. Also your habits are very important. One of the reasons why I love Android is that I can literally change my software whenever I want. I was running AOKP 2 days ago, M'ICS the day after. Now today I'm on stock rooted FI27.
Honestly though, this phone is really good out of the box. I had the LG Optimus V for over a year as well, and the only way to get that phone to perform was to root it and put a custom ROM on it. It was actually a great phone for being low end. I had said that when I upgraded to this phone that I wouldn't root it, but that didn't last long. Really though, you can easily get the performance you're looking for on this phone without rooting it.
I rooted for UV/OC ability.
And I really didn't like touchwiz, but I accidentally found that it comes stock with both the ICS launcher and TW launchers, so that was a plus.
I'm on a stock rom running agat's source 6.5 kernel. Runs great. Only thing better would be if I could find an optimized stock rom (much like Sprint Lovers on the OG Evo 4G.)
I'm rooted because I like to tell my devices what to do.
I guess rooting might make more sense if you've ever been an administrator or if you've ever ran any Linux machine.
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Tethering and titanium backup. There is no way to truly backup data without root and on something as accident prone as a smartphone that's a necessity.
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Don't you really only need Titanium Backup if you are gonna be rooting though? The bloatware I can deal with as the phone hasn't (yet) told me that I don't have enough space to stop me from installing new apps.
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You can't reliably backup say your angry bird progress without TiBu or the like and being rooted. Sure for this specific series of apps there have been applications made to back up the save progress but they have proven often at times to be unreliable.
Maybe your favorite app gets pulled from the market, lets say flash. Too bad you didn't back up the APK. Of course for flash you can download the apk from adobe still so not a great example but you get the idea.
But overall something like Titanium Backup comes in handy if you ever need to format the phone. Like say the OTA to ICS, problems for unrooted users were easily solved by a factory reset (except for that brick bug triggered by factory reset...). Nice to be able to restore all your user apps with all their settings and save data.
I rooted so I could use a PS3 controller back on gingerbread. As time goes on many things that required root like taking screenshots have become officially available in Android or OEM firmware. Question is you want to be able to do completely normal and reasonable things up to a couple years ahead of Google catching up? Surely if someone locked down your windows PC so you couldn't do things you take for granted you would wish for root access.
I waited about 5 months before I finally rooted my phone. My old phone was rooted and I liked CM7 and MIUI but with stock ICS on this phone I was getting amazing battery life and I was using GO Launcher and it looked great. The only thing I hated was the black status bar and it could only be changed if it was rooted.
There are a lot of roms for our phone but I really missed the CM7 rom I had on the old optimus S. It supported status bar transparency and I could change the color of the status bar and status bar text. It looks like no rom for our phone has that feature. Right now I'm on MIUI which has a great looking UI but battery life isn't nearly as good as the unrooted FH13. I get the best battery life with CM9 which is still a lot less than before when it wasn't rooted. My phone used to last around 60 hours with very light use and now I could only get around 48 hours with CM9 and maybe 30 hours with MIUI. But I'm still happy with it since I get tons of beautiful themes and new features and I like to try new roms and it keeps me busy lol.
Rooting allows you to have full control of the device whether its software or hardware. I agree that this phone is just fine stock. It just works and its fast.
Reasons why I'm rooted
Titanium backup, roam control, extended toggles, root explorer to push custom themed apps to /system/app. When rooted you can do almost anything with your phone that comes to your mind. There's a pic of the super super handy extended toggles that I can't live with out.
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There is no reason for you to root. You are happy that's good.
XDA's 4,697,117+ Members are just nuts. We're unhappy with our stuff and insist on making it less useful to us.
Nothing to see here....
Seriously if you need to ask and don't want to investigate for yourself then rooting and certainly these forums are not for you.
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You have only had your phone for a month. I have had mine for about a year, and others here have had it longer. If you are trying to convince us not to root, you should spend your time on the Sprint message boards instead of here.
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I wasn't trying to imply that anyone who has rooted this phone is nuts, you shouldn't have done it, and that it's less useful. I was asking what are some specific advantages to rooting, how does rooting make it more useful, as at the moment I have had no issues with the operation of the phone, but I don't know the full extent of what it can do when rooted, and I thought that these forums would be the place to get such answers from experienced rooted users who have had their phones for a year and know more than I do. I should have worded my initial question differently to explain that better.
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I root because
- Better reception and data
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This is interesting to know. At home I get 1 bar of reception if I'm lucky, dropped calls, and no 3G data. I had to ask Sprint for an Airave. When I leave my street but am still in the general neighbourhood I get no service again. Is reception improved by root-only apps or certain ROMs?
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You may be happy with bloat. I do not want battery resources going to apps I will never open. ... But if your phone ever drowns don't complain that you lost all your game data or texts and stuff. With titanium backup I can even set a schedule to back up those items for me at whatever time to my sd card. So if my phone drowns I pop my as card into my new phone and its all there. Also make nandroids when I receive my replacement its like my phone never died. Its all exactly how I had it.
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Thanks for telling me that. It's not that I'm happy with them, I just haven't yet had my phone tell me I can't install a new app. When that happens no doubt I wouldn't be pleased. I assumed that because I hadn't opened the bloatware apps that they weren't using battery resources so it's good to know that they do, and that this is a good reason for rooting and removing them. Your reasons for using Titanium backup were something I hadn't thought of as well.
Omar04 said:
I run stock 90% of the time.
My main reason to root at least after FF18
-Tethering
-Tethering nothing more
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Again, good to know. As I said, I've had the phone a couple of weeks and only now with a lower workload have I really had time to sit and contemplate what to do with my phone, and look into what it does and what it can do. I have the paid EasyTether app but I haven't used it on this phone yet. I also saw that it comes preloaded with Sprint Hotspot app.. I take it then that EasyTether won't work on this phone with current stock setup?
mjs2011 said:
Agreed with all that say it's your choice. Also your habits are very important. One of the reasons why I love Android is that I can literally change my software whenever I want. I was running AOKP 2 days ago, M'ICS the day after. Now today I'm on stock rooted FI27.
Honestly though, this phone is really good out of the box. I had the LG Optimus V for over a year as well, and the only way to get that phone to perform was to root it and put a custom ROM on it. It was actually a great phone for being low end. I had said that when I upgraded to this phone that I wouldn't root it, but that didn't last long. Really though, you can easily get the performance you're looking for on this phone without rooting it.
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I think if I did root, I'd do what I did with the OV and stick with the same ROM for a good time. Again, not to insult those that do (see above reply), but I don't think I'd have the balls to run different roms on a daily basis in fear of bricking it and also because once I've found something I'm happy with I'm usually okay not to look any further!
Mattix724 said:
I'm rooted because I like to tell my devices what to do.
I guess rooting might make more sense if you've ever been an administrator or if you've ever ran any Linux machine.
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Yeah, no. No Linux experience here except for a tiny bit of stuff on my seedbox, installing 7zip and using Putty to unzip iso's and stuff.
I'm going to spend the next couple of days reading the various forums, looking at what ROMs are available, what they do, etc etc, checking out what apps that require root access I'm missing out on.. one has piqued my interest already: Root Call Blocker. But I use my phone to make calls, make texts, check emails, surf the web a bit, and let the kids play a few games on it. So this is why I was wondering if there were any other benefits for me to do this.