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application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

How to use multiple accounts at gmail?

I'm using gmail with one major gmail account plus few pop3 accounts.while using gmail at web I can chose which account name use for send out emails.i need sometimes to answer from another account name while still using one gmail login.
At android gmail application I cannot find such feature as changing "from"name. Any ideas?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The gmail app supports multiple accounts. Use that.
Also, you can go into your gmail settings from your PC and have one of your gmail accounts access your other POP3, managing those account for you. You can even set them up with a filter with autolabeling so they stand out in your inbox, also set them up so they show the original email when you reply.
I manage 7 email addresses this way, it works perfectly if you take the time to set it up well.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Frankenstooge said:
The gmail app supports multiple accounts. Use that.
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Im using built in Gmail client at HTC Desire. Is there any other to use?
Frankenstooge said:
Also, you can go into your gmail settings from your PC and have one of your gmail accounts access your other POP3, managing those account for you. You can even set them up with a filter with autolabeling so they stand out in your inbox, also set them up so they show the original email when you reply.
I manage 7 email addresses this way, it works perfectly if you take the time to set it up well.
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Now Im totally confused .
Via web Im using one gmail account ([email protected]) which receives mails from this adress and from 3 other servers via POP3. Mails are flagged - just as you described. We are here same, but:
- when I write answer to @gmail.com - it goes with @gmail.com, one answering for some POP3 message - answering as POP3 account owner. Via website everything is OK.
Via [email protected] if I receive mails to @gmail.com or any other POP3 Im always answering with the name and account set in Gmail application. So if somebody sends me email to account which is checked by gmail via POP3 once I answer from web - looks good, answered from phone - not as I use @gmail answering profile.
How can I match those in HTC to settings from Web?

Use K9 mail available from market, it let's you set up your gmail account and send e mails from different accounts
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There are two email clients on android. The gmail app and the mail app. Use the later for multiple pop accounts and gmail at the same time. You can set up as many as you want. It's all built in. The google mail app is crap imo, just switch to the HTC one

NicodemPL said:
I'm using gmail with one major gmail account plus few pop3 accounts.while using gmail at web I can chose which account name use for send out emails.i need sometimes to answer from another account name while still using one gmail login.
At android gmail application I cannot find such feature as changing "from"name. Any ideas?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Did you ever find a solution? I have the exact same question I have a gmail account, but my main email account is a work pop3. I used to use Outlook on my desktop and k9 on my EVO, but they didn't sync. Recently I changed over to using Chrome browser and gmail at work. I set gmail to check my work POP3 account and also have it set to send outgoing mail through the work pop3 server. My default "FROM" is my work POP3 address, but I can change the "FROM" to my gmail account using the drop-down in the "fROM" field. I also have another personal POP3 that I also have gmail checking and can send from that one as well.
My problem is that I can't select the FROM address when using the gmail app on my HTC EVO. It always addresses new messages from my default account which is the work POP3.
I like the gmail integration and don't want to to back to using multiple accounts in K9.

I cannot send outgoing email when out and about, but can receive incoming email anywhere.
When back in house and wifi, outgoing email suddeny sends.
I use pop3 on ukonline, so is there some security settings not working when not on wifi in house?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I did a search and this was only topic that returned.

Your SMTP settings will be incorrect.
I suspect that you will be using UKOnlines SMTP server for outgoing mail, which is fine when you are connected via WiFi (and hence, via their network), but will not work via Mobile Internet unless they allow authenticated access from outside their network.
Regards,
Dave

Push Email client

Hi,
Does the email client on the android device is push client,i have an yahoo acoount, i think it does not have push client.

Yeah I wish.
It seems blackberries are the only ones with PUSH from other providers. Plus the built in both GMAIL and MAIL apps confuse the **** out of me and make my desire less desirable.

Try seven beta version, its not in the market place and u need to register online but its free and its really good. Just Google seven Android.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

You need a mail client which supports IMAP idle. Most people recommend K-9 Mail.
The Gmail application supports push mail but can only be used with gmail accounts. The HTC mail application also supports push mail but only for exchange accounts, not IMAP.

pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you

Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.

khr0n0s said:
That's hardly push is it! You still have the delay while you wait for gmail to poll the POP server. No better than using the phones mail client.
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well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.

Lennyuk said:
well actually it saves you battery, gmail checks the pop roughly every 10 minutes, and your phone will only do any work when a mail is there i.e. its pushed.
if you use a normal mail client your trying to "pull every 10 minutes" it will use way way way more battery than gmail pushing the same result.
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The checking time on Google's mail fetcher service is dynamic. If you generally only receive a few mails per day then it will only check a few times per day. In Google's own words,
"Gmail checks individual accounts for new messages at different rates, depending on previous mail fetch attempts. At this time you can’t customize the frequency of automatic mail fetches."
I use POP mail and don't find any great difference in battery drain with it on or off. I understand that this could be an issue for the more battery anal though. I think the real benefit of your method is bandwidth. Polling every 5 or 10 minutes can quickly eat in to a monthly data allowance. This is significant to those who only get a few MB every month. Going through Google's push mail service is a much more bandwidth efficient method.

Lennyuk said:
pop your accounts into your gmail account and have gmail push it all to you
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Yeah i have done that, and i hardly ever receive an email, before that i just check my yahoo.
I have downloaded k-9 mail, hope it does the job.

I never got on with K9 myself.
I get emails all the time with gmail handling all my accounts every 10-15 minutes, oh well each to their own.

Too bad I cannot POP my yahoo with gmail... the asia trick doesn't work anymore.
If anyone does have a method (not upgrading to mail plus ), please share it!

I just had a play with K9 and comparing it to Seven I was not impressed. Its push pull and when i delete a email on my phone it does that on my account too.
I can recommend

since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.

samy.3660 said:
since yesterday i have not received a single mail on yahoo through k-9 mail, i think its just does not work, gmail app is wonderful, but transferring my yahoo on gmail doesn't work as well.
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I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.

khr0n0s said:
I just did some quick research on this. It looks like yahoo don't support standard IMAP IDLE. Instead they have their own custom Push IMAP protocol. You will have to use Yahoo's own mail client available from the market place to receive yahoo push email.
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I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I don't think Yahoos Android client supports push either. I have a very seldom used Yahoo account which I set up on the device, and when I sent an email to it, the application took an age to pick it up.
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It sounds like yahoo mail really sucks. Gmail FTW

Replacement email app?

I'm coming from an evo 4g and I loved how you could edit the frequency of refreshes and have only email pushed from a day, 3 days, and etc on the sense UI.
Is there a good replacement app that does something similar to this on all email accounts? Or if the touchwiz has something similar, please point me in the right direction. Thanks!

Subiegsr said:
I'm coming from an evo 4g and I loved how you could edit the frequency of refreshes and have only email pushed from a day, 3 days, and etc on the sense UI.
Is there a good replacement app that does something similar to this on all email accounts? Or if the touchwiz has something similar, please point me in the right direction. Thanks!
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Go into the email app, and then your account settings and check the sync schedule. You have change it there and even set it differently for peak/off-peak times. Like my work email I have it set to push m-5 from 5am-11:59pm then all other times and weekends I have it check every 4 hours. There is an option "Period to sync email" which controls how far back it pulls the email. ie.. 3 days, week, all

I don't think the stock email app "pushes" anything, just lets you choose intervals to check for email, which is why i use K-9 mail instead (despite the arcane U.I). I have 2 email accounts that support IMAP IDLE and K-9 supports IMAP IDLE push. Works great.

LordLugard said:
I don't think the stock email app "pushes" anything, just lets you choose intervals to check for email, which is why i use K-9 mail instead (despite the arcane U.I). I have 2 email accounts that support IMAP IDLE and K-9 supports IMAP IDLE push. Works great.
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If you have Exchange then push is an option.

Ah yeah that's what I meant just checking the intervals. Although I don't know what the difference is between the two lol. I'll check out the k9 app though.
Thanks for the reply guys. I just realized I have to go into each email account individually to to change the interval settings. My two primary email accounts are gmail and hotmail.

LordLugard said:
I don't think the stock email app "pushes" anything, just lets you choose intervals to check for email, which is why i use K-9 mail instead (despite the arcane U.I). I have 2 email accounts that support IMAP IDLE and K-9 supports IMAP IDLE push. Works great.
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sk63 said:
If you have Exchange then push is an option.
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You can also get normal hotmail to push. If you set it up manually as an exchange account and in the server field type in m.hotmail.com.

[Q] Email

I've set-up my Hotmail. When I receive an email it doesn't push it to my handset immediately. I've had a look in the settings but I don't understand what I need to change to that the emails are pushed as soon as they're received.
Please can anyone help?

Anyone?

scotty2012 said:
Anyone?
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You can change the frequency of when it checks your email.

scotty2012 said:
I've set-up my Hotmail. When I receive an email it doesn't push it to my handset immediately. I've had a look in the settings but I don't understand what I need to change to that the emails are pushed as soon as they're received.
Please can anyone help?
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Are you using the Hotmail app or the default Mail app?

dr9722 said:
Are you using the Hotmail app or the default Mail app?
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Use the Hotmail app instead then, this support push notifications.

I use and would recommend "Touch down for smart phones" it is almost instant push notifications and seems to work very well i have been using it for 18 months now. The other option is to set up your hotmail to forward masks to your gmail account, this also works well.
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Thanks for the replies. I will take a look at the other options you suggested although I would prefer to use the default app. I'm not keen on the Hotmail app.

Scotty mate, i had the same problem, the Hotmail app sorts it, and now I prefer it to the stock mail app.

HTC whore said:
Scotty mate, i had the same problem, the Hotmail app sorts it, and now I prefer it to the stock mail app.
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I'll try it out for a bit, see how it goes.

In order to get true push email + IMAP for HOTMAIL use this settings:
Incoming settings:
Enter your email account and password Do no hit next, instead click Manual Setup Chose Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
In the Domain\Username field: delete everything and enter your email address In the Server field: enter m.hotmail.com Keep the box ticked for 'Use secure connection (SSL)' and keep the box unticked for 'Accept all SSL certificates'
Should do it.
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Thank you wnp_79 that's a handy info.

wnp_79 said:
In order to get true push email + IMAP for HOTMAIL use this settings:
Incoming settings:
Enter your email account and password Do no hit next, instead click Manual Setup Chose Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
In the Domain\Username field: delete everything and enter your email address In the Server field: enter m.hotmail.com Keep the box ticked for 'Use secure connection (SSL)' and keep the box unticked for 'Accept all SSL certificates'
Should do it.
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Yes that worked a treat. Cheers mate!

I set-up my push email (hotmail) with the settings mentioned earlier in the thread. I thought it was working because I was receiving my mail. The thing is, I only get my emails when I click 'refresh' in the app. I sent myself an email from the PC and it wasn't pushed to the phone. Not sure were I'm going wrong. In the settings I have 'push mail' selected on peak & off peak. I have the data connection on. Does anyone have any idea what I need to change in the settings?

Anyone?

Using the email app or the Hotmail account in Account & Sync?
The email app wouldn't update for me either, and i've read a few posts from people with the same problem.
I just use the Hotmail Account to auto sync

HTC whore said:
Using the email app or the Hotmail account in Account & Sync?
The email app wouldn't update for me either, and i've read a few posts from people with the same problem.
I just use the Hotmail Account to auto sync
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Thanks for the reply. I managed to sort it out (with help from wnp_79). I downloaded the stock Android app and set up my account. The emails are pushed to the handset now.

Nae bother. So you can download the stock app from the Market? I'm guessing its just called Mail? It would be better to have that working than Mail and Hotmail both trying to sync, for battery life.

No the app is not on the market.
Here is the application.
Guide on how to set-up Hotmail manually on it. (Just in case)
Hope this helps.

Cheers dude