Can anyone see themselves hopping to a new phone after using this? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I'm just wondering here...because with all my other phones (well, other android phones. I really really liked the HTC Arrive. Don't sleep on WP7.5 folks) I would use them for a little bit and then have that urge to go out and buy another phone...but with this phone, that sht is gone. I don't even want to root the damn thing. I don't want to add any custom sht or anything. It's all perfect out of the box (for me, I know some of you guys are having issues and I hope y'all can get that sorted out ASAP).
I seriously think that this phone is the best thing out there. I'm at 20.5 hours unplugged with 25% battery left...surprisingly, my phone idle is at 5%...Display, Internet, and music are the highest...this phone lasted a night at my job which consists of heavy 3G use and music playing for about 4 hours straight. Samsung is legit.

The only phone I'm watching is the prime. That's only if it comes to Sprint though. Don't have Verizon where I live. Other than that I feel the same way.
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ms79723 said:
I'm just wondering here...because with all my other phones (well, other android phones. I really really liked the HTC Arrive. Don't sleep on WP7.5 folks) I would use them for a little bit and then have that urge to go out and buy another phone...but with this phone, that sht is gone. I don't even want to root the damn thing. I don't want to add any custom sht or anything. It's all perfect out of the box (for me, I know some of you guys are having issues and I hope y'all can get that sorted out ASAP).
I seriously think that this phone is the best thing out there. I'm at 20.5 hours unplugged with 25% battery left...surprisingly, my phone idle is at 5%...Display, Internet, and music are the highest...this phone lasted a night at my job which consists of heavy 3G use and music playing for about 4 hours straight. Samsung is legit.
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I agree. This is hands down the best phone I have ever had. I can see myself using this for 2 years and being happy. Even with the prime supposedly coming out, we don't know if sprint is getting it anyway. The only upgrade I could see would be the HD screen it's suppose to have, but, that would not make me jump out and buy it. Most of the upcoming things they are talking about, quad core and things like that is overkill for a phone IMHO. I would rather they focus on battery improvements and gpu upgrades, and just making the android os run as smooth as possible, better music player, and making sure android apps are properly made and not battery hogs.
I have no interest in rooting this phone, I might once it get's better, I miss some rooted apps, titanium backup, cache cleaner, and free tethering, but I don't need to root and I never thought I would say that.

i have 3 upgrades between now and next september, so i can guarantee i will be trying the next few devices regardless. i do think the et4g is the best overall device i have ever owned, but still has a crappy radio, which for all intents and purposes spoils a top notch cpu/gpu combo

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i have 3 upgrades between now and next september, so i can guarantee i will be trying the next few devices regardless. i do think the et4g is the best overall device i have ever owned, but still has a crappy radio, which for all intents and purposes spoils a top notch cpu/gpu combo
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The radio is a standard Samsung so-so radio. Complete crap when compared to my EVO4G and even my LG Lotus which still gets almost full bars where I am (and the EVO4G never saw full bars and the ET4G is seeing only 1 or 2 less than that). Even considering the relatively weak radio it still is a solid performer with less signal.
...as opposed to the 3 EVO3D's I went through. Talk about useless radio. Sure, it can do EVDO rev.B but what does that matter if you can't get a decent signal and lock on to a tower for more than a few seconds at a time?
Honestly, I think lower radiation (and lower signal strength) radios is just the new way for some absurd reason. Even though the meter reads roughly the same as my Moment (shudder) did it doesn't have any actual problems (data lockups, grrr).
But, yes, aside from that I agree. This phone is amazing. I'm rooted but I'm not going ROM crazy like I usually do. I'm still flashing things all the time on my NookColor (between CM7 and MIUI), and that's only minor revisions....but I feel no need, unlike my HTC devices. Though I think the fact that they ship with Sense on them makes getting as close to AOSP as possible much more urgent. As it stands I've torn out all of touchwiz and aside from a few extremely small hardware specific tweaks (screen mode, etc) and very minor aesthetic decisions we are as close to stock android as we could really ask for. Until we have a pure AOSP base and/or Cyanogen and MIUI I don't actually have a need to do any heavy modifications (besides root and screen density adjustment).
Though, I am getting the Nexus Prime for certain. I just hope the huge screen size can compensate for how much I hate 16:9.
EDIT: I can't believe I forgot fncking lock screen...that hideous thing. Have we found a way to put the stock Android pull-tab lock screen in yet or a 100%-perfect method of using alternate lock screens without this one popping back up again in addition to the aftermarket lock?

Nexus Prime.... paying out the ass at Verizon of course...

I'll be hopping to the next phone if/when Sprint get a good LTE phone + network. I'm guessing in the next 12-18 months.

rockky said:
Nexus Prime.... paying out the ass at Verizon of course...
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So far as I know they are getting the Samsung Galaxy Prime...since it won't be a Nexus device they can go right ahead and fill it up with bloaty crap and lock down any standard features that compete with their own service offerings.
The Google Nexus Prime (manufactured by Samsung) is a different phone....even though it's likely the same exact phone.

I've had Evo 3D (not 4G) and this side by side since day 1, and it's far from complete crap in comparison. Speedwise both running on 4G, Epic runs little circles around the Evo. Call volume is much better on the Epic also.
I'm fortunate in that I don't lose signal....or very rarely.
Remember early days of 4G?...took a lot of tweaking and radio updates to solidify signal strength.
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The radio is a standard Samsung so-so radio. Complete crap when compared to my EVO4G and even my LG Lotus which still gets almost full bars where I am (and the EVO4G never saw full bars and the ET4G is seeing only 1 or 2 less than that). Even considering the relatively weak radio it still is a solid performer with less signal.
...as opposed to the 3 EVO3D's I went through. Talk about useless radio. Sure, it can do EVDO rev.B but what does that matter if you can't get a decent signal and lock on to a tower for more than a few seconds at a time?
Honestly, I think lower radiation (and lower signal strength) radios is just the new way for some absurd reason. Even though the meter reads roughly the same as my Moment (shudder) did it doesn't have any actual problems (data lockups, grrr).
But, yes, aside from that I agree. This phone is amazing. I'm rooted but I'm not going ROM crazy like I usually do. I'm still flashing things all the time on my NookColor (between CM7 and MIUI), and that's only minor revisions....but I feel no need, unlike my HTC devices. Though I think the fact that they ship with Sense on them makes getting as close to AOSP as possible much more urgent. As it stands I've torn out all of touchwiz and aside from a few extremely small hardware specific tweaks (screen mode, etc) and very minor aesthetic decisions we are as close to stock android as we could really ask for. Until we have a pure AOSP base and/or Cyanogen and MIUI I don't actually have a need to do any heavy modifications (besides root and screen density adjustment).
Though, I am getting the Nexus Prime for certain. I just hope the huge screen size can compensate for how much I hate 16:9.
EDIT: I can't believe I forgot fncking lock screen...that hideous thing. Have we found a way to put the stock Android pull-tab lock screen in yet or a 100%-perfect method of using alternate lock screens without this one popping back up again in addition to the aftermarket lock?
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the leaked data sheets show it void of bloatware.
Irregardless.....
they all become aosp in short order...via XDA.
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So far as I know they are getting the Samsung Galaxy Prime...since it won't be a Nexus device they can go right ahead and fill it up with bloaty crap and lock down any standard features that compete with their own service offerings.
The Google Nexus Prime (manufactured by Samsung) is a different phone....even though it's likely the same exact phone.
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I find aosp boring as f*** anyway. My aosp has never looked aosp in the least.

rockky said:
I've had Evo 3D (not 4G) and this side by side since day 1, and it's far from complete crap in comparison. Speedwise both running on 4G, Epic runs little circles around the Evo. Call volume is much better on the Epic also.
I'm fortunate in that I don't lose signal....or very rarely.
Remember early days of 4G?...took a lot of tweaking and radio updates to solidify signal strength.
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Well, when I say complete crap I am referring to the measured signal strength. The actual real world performance of my OG Evo was pretty much on par with my ET4G. That's where the E3D just couldn't compete.
IRT Early 4G, well, we still haven't been officially announced as having 4G even though there is a tower a mile away. Unless they we are lumped in with "Hartford" which is a good 15 miles away. I guess we are part of the greater metro area.
I've gotta admit, Being with Sprint has been a fun, if very bumpy (at times) ride. I can only hope that we're about to have another great stretch of fantastic service...cuz it's deteriorating rapidly at this point.
I've gotta dig up my first Sprint PCS phone. A Samsung that looks like an out of date cordless phone. Last I turned it on it got a better signal (maxed out the entire time) than any of my other phones....though, It's likely measuring 2G. That phone was so futuristic looking when I got it...and TINY compared to my previous motorolas...

The galaxy III.
I wouldn't head to verizon for the prime but if it came to sprint I may try it out but it really has to wow me.

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Nexus Prime.... paying out the ass at Verizon of course...
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It won't be the nexus on verizon. They will get it but it is called the droid prime. If they also make it as the nexus prime it will be either sprint or att.
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Khilbron said:
It won't be the nexus on verizon. They will get it but it is called the droid prime. If they also make it as the nexus prime it will be either sprint or att.
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Splitting hairs here aren't we?
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It will be the Nexus on V.....even if it's called Droid Prime.
I'm gonna doubt they'll call it that though.

Ran both the GSII and the E3D for two weeks side by side. GSII went back. I'll be getting the E3D for the wife's upgrade and we'll stick with that til the next big thing drops. No real complaints with the GSII, it just didn't offer much more than I already have with the 3D. Bigger screen, blacker blacks, and slightly better camera. The difference in cameras was very slight and the fact that the GSII doesn't do 3D more than makes up for that difference. Plus the wife straight up chose the 3D so....

I should be eligible for a full upgrade next spring, possibly when LTE phones are getting ready to come out

@gadgetmonger
We know how you returned your epic. How does that have anything to do with this post?
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Ran both the GSII and the E3D for two weeks side by side. GSII went back. I'll be getting the E3D for the wife's upgrade and we'll stick with that til the next big thing drops. No real complaints with the GSII, it just didn't offer much more than I already have with the 3D. Bigger screen, blacker blacks, and slightly better camera. The difference in cameras was very slight and the fact that the GSII doesn't do 3D more than makes up for that difference. Plus the wife straight up chose the 3D so....
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Full Disclosure: I was waiting months for the 3D and went through 3 of them and it broke my heart to have to give up on the phone (because of the radio). I so wanted to love that phone.
With that said I had a lot complaints about the 3D...one of them wasn't the camera, but, umm, "a little better" camera? I'm sorry, I wish I could agree with you, but, the ET4G camera is effin' lightyears beyond that 'pretty good for a cellphone' 2 back cams on the 3D. Acceptable? Damn right, great and detailed if you could deal with clicking the button and guessing when in the next 4 seconds it would take the picture... Anything to write home about? Not at all. But compared to the ET4G camera is simply absurd.
...though the 3D function cannot be debated. The 3D was really cool for that.

I've been more than happy with the Epic Touch after coming from the OG Epic. This is the first smartphone that's given me over 10 hours with some heavy use. I can't see myself switching anytime soon, it's just too good of a device. Perfect size, more than enough power, gorgeous screen, stellar camera and beyond excellent battery life... I'm good.
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Evo 3d
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed

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I am happy with the GS2 over the Verizon Nexus

Good honest review from my coworker between the two phones, Verizon Galaxy-Nexus and Sprint Galaxy SII
My coworker just bought the Verizon Galaxy-Nexus, coming from an old HTC Incredible, that was damaged. He is not a [H]ard geek, but likes new tech. He was comparing to my Sprint Galaxy SII, that is rooted, with custom ROM, and ICS theme. He actually likes my phone better he said after a day with his new Nexus.
Some of his complaints on the Nexus;
- Speaker is very low, even at max hard to hear GPS navigation
- Screen is not that bright, looks good he says, but not what he expected after all the hype.
- Battery life totally blows he said, on his second day, and battery gets low quickly after a full charge. Lasts half a day.
- Phone is fast, but not butter smooth, there is slight lag here and there sometimes.
- Android 4.0 ICS is hard for him to get used to, feels almost alien to him after having an HTC Sense device running Froyo. He said needs awhile to still figuring everything out.
Now he compared it to my Galaxy SII with same points;
- Speaker is very loud and clear on my phone, loudest he's heard on a phone.
- GS2 is not high res, but still looks very clear, and extremely colorful.
- Battery life on my SII lasts a full day easily.
- Pretty much zero lag on my device he says, where the Nexus does have a little.
- I am on Android 2.3.6 with custom ROM + Theme, hard to really compare, I prefer full 4.0 ICS myself, but he's on the fence he said, almost prefers my tweaked Touchwiz 4.0 better.
My opinion, would be a full stable ICS ROM running on our Sprint GS2, might be a tad faster/smoother than the Galaxy-Nexus. But Verizon has us on the network speeds, not even talking about LTE vs WiMax, but their 3G is almost as fast as our 4G. Sprint's network just blows lately in Chicago_land, 3G is a ****ing joke.
Nice write up. My take is its more about the data network than the hardware. Sure some people will prefer pure ICS, but we'll have it on this phone at some point.
I do wish i had better data speeds sometimes but I can live with it.
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I'm still on the fence. I could go and trade my E4GT in right now for it and walk out with $50 best buy credit...but I love my unlimited data. I go hog-effing-wild on data. Though that has gotten pretty difficult on Sprint these days. Verizon 3G is much faster in my area and LTE is just...wow. As for the phone itself, well, I like the zero-shutter-lag on the camera. The panel has the same amount of sub-pixels as ours, so, I'm really curious to see the difference between the two screens up close both set to 160 DPI....I'm willing to bet it's probably going to be close to a draw for most things. We also have a superior CPU and GPU. Vastly superior? Not really...but enough to measure reliably.
But to have a Nexus device...guaranteed first-in-line updates are nice. "Just unlocking it" 'cuz you are allowed to...that's nice, though a moot point given how easy this phone was to get into. Not to mention pretty much guaranteed CM support, MIUI as well...and Nexus devices seem to just be smoother than any device built off the same platform. Nexus One and Evo4G were on the identical platform, save for a few minor differences (CDMA, FFC, HDMI, FPS cap lol) and an N1 smoked an Evo in day to day performance, even on the same ROM....same for the GalaxyS vs the NexusS...even though they were on the identical platform. Though I'm not so sure there will ever be another OMAP Samsung phone, I could be wrong. I never thought there would be a Snapdragon GalaxyS2 either.
...and I have gadgetitis, it's been exactly 3 months since I got a new phone, lol. That's pretty much exactly when I usually get a new one.
I want to see one in person, then I'll make my mind.
I was just gonna reply to your thread over on Hard Forum. I have a friend who's got one as well. My personal opinion is that I like the GS2 better. It is faster, smoother, has a better screen (imo), has a better camera and a louder speaker.
I appreciate Google's idea behind the Nexus phones. However, even with the last Nexus S, there were some shortcomings the phone had in comparison to other hardware that was already out on the market.
I'm pretty content with my GS2 after using the GNexus for a bit.
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awesomeindeed said:
I was just gonna reply to your thread over on Hard Forum. I have a friend who's got one as well. My personal opinion is that I like the GS2 better. It is faster, smoother, has a better screen (imo), has a better camera and a louder speaker.
I appreciate Google's idea behind the Nexus phones. However, even with the last Nexus S, there were some shortcomings the phone had in comparison to other hardware that was already out on the market.
I'm pretty content with my GS2 after using the GNexus for a bit.
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Hola [H]ard buddy
Yeah after seeing the magical Nexus in my owns hands, I was not as wow'd and impressed like I thought I would be. This is supposed to be the second coming, and god of all phones, and compared to my rooted GS2, I just don't see a night and day difference. Yes the Nexus is a better device, but barely, and put ICS on both phones, and the difference really goes away.
The Nexus screen seems dark, and just not as colorful as my GS2. The loud speaker is a major bummer on the Nexus, can barely hear the thing. And there is an ever so slightly lag once in a while, that I don't get on my GS2.
But it has ICS which is cool, and the Verizon network is light years ahead of Sprint's, just the 3G comparison is is like an NHL team playing a little league club. Totally destroys it.
The nexus phones are always over hyped, especially the prime had some crazy rumors.
I'm sure people are disappointed it wasn't everything it could have been
The pros of the nexus are the screen, nfc, and the Google support/development. Everything else is comparable or worse than the GS2, like the gpu, cameras, battery.
Also I like the att variant more than all the others mostly because its the right size and has NFC (I think)
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Keep lying to yourselves.
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Given how neck-and-neck these devices are with each other on most fronts and there is an extreme case of one-is-better-here and other-is-better-there...umm...what I'm saying is I have no idea which position is supposed to be the obvious one that some of us are in denial of.
SGS2 is faster. The GNex is 720p. The Gnex has ICS. The SGS2 will have ICS. Gnex camera is faster, SGS2 camera is more detailed. The screen size is effectively the same. The sub-pixel count is completely 100% identical. GNex gets more pixels. SGS2 gets more sub-pixels per pixel.
The fact that the Gnex has LTE is irrelevant...of course it does, it's a flagship device on Verizon. We get unlimited data...of course we do, we're on Sprint.
Which device is obviously better, to you? I'm seriously considering buying one, tonight...right now, actually, and I would love a compelling case for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, but, try as hard as I may I can't come up with one myself.
Well the GSII on sprint is an awesome phone. The thing holding it back is Sprint. I just switched to Verizon yesterday at 9 AM to get the Galaxy Nexus and man, I'm glad I did. The hardware is amazing, but the data speeds increase is night and day. I've been researching carriers in my area for about a month and a half now and Verizon had consistently more coverage and faster data speeds.
I had the GSII and I actually like the design of that phone better. But overall I like the Galaxy Nexus a lot better.
Not to mention I get 20 percent off my data part of my plan and then 19 percent off my entire bill, 25 percent off accessories and I was able to snag an extra battery with external charging kit bundled with the phone. Gotta love employer discounts. I'll end up paying less with Verizon than I ever did with sprint, with usable data.
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Well the GSII on sprint is an awesome phone. The thing holding it back is Sprint. I just switched to Verizon yesterday at 9 AM to get the Galaxy Nexus and man, I'm glad I did. The hardware is amazing, but the data speeds increase is night and day. I've been researching carriers in my area for about a month and a half now and Verizon had consistently more coverage and faster data speeds.
I had the GSII and I actually like the design of that phone better. But overall I like the Galaxy Nexus a lot better.
Not to mention I get 20 percent off my data part of my plan and then 19 percent off my entire bill, 25 percent off accessories and I was able to snag an extra battery with external charging kit bundled with the phone. Gotta love employer discounts. I'll end up paying less with Verizon than I ever did with sprint, with usable data.
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What are some of the cons and pros if the nexus? Also Is it as smooth as the sII? Thanks
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spencer88 said:
Well the GSII on sprint is an awesome phone. The thing holding it back is Sprint. I just switched to Verizon yesterday at 9 AM to get the Galaxy Nexus and man, I'm glad I did. The hardware is amazing, but the data speeds increase is night and day. I've been researching carriers in my area for about a month and a half now and Verizon had consistently more coverage and faster data speeds.
I had the GSII and I actually like the design of that phone better. But overall I like the Galaxy Nexus a lot better.
Not to mention I get 20 percent off my data part of my plan and then 19 percent off my entire bill, 25 percent off accessories and I was able to snag an extra battery with external charging kit bundled with the phone. Gotta love employer discounts. I'll end up paying less with Verizon than I ever did with sprint, with usable data.
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For you then it's a no brainer to go to Verizon with those kinds of discounts. But for most moving from Sprint to Verizon would be a costly venture, higher monthly payments on Verizon, pay ETF for leaving Sprint, buy the new Nexus + accessories.
If I had the extra cash to burn I might think about, mainly for the network, Sprint just sucks so bad for crappy speeds, 3G is like 1x speeds. I sure hope Sprint does indeed improve their network next year like they say, because I will leave for sure when contract is up if we still keep getting these dial up modem speeds.
But just as a device, the Sprint Galaxy SII is AMAZING and AWESOME, I LOVE this device, great screen...killer long battery life...very fast and zero lag whatsoever..great development community here...I can only see one maybe two hits against the Sprint Galaxy SII, #1 the network sucks, and #2 no ICS yet, but that's it. But once a full stable ICS ROM is out this phone will probably be a bit smoother and faster than the Galaxy-Nexus.
My friend just got one and i played around with it some today. I am not blown away by the screen as I though I would be, yes it is better than GSII but not by that much. Can't beat vanilla android but I'm not crazy about the colors of ICS it feels very cold and plain...to each his own. Plus, we will get ISC anyways and somebody will have a rom that gets rid of TouchWiz. The quality feels much better than GSII but thats mainly because of the weight. I prefer the lighter GSII. Its a bit bigger than GSII which I hate I already think GSII is to big. Finally, I'm not sure about this but isn't GSII processor better the what the nexus has, I think with the improvements of ICS the GSII will be quicker than Nexus.
Its a great phone and I actually believe in sprint's network vision plans. If they don't make it happen, I will be up for a new contract then, I can either go back to my work provided BB or change carriers. Rocking this phone but roaming to verizon.......
Both phones have their merits for sure. I got the chance yesterday and today to play with the Nexus and it's a great phone I honestly love it and Android 4.0 in my humble opinion is beautiful. I do agree with the battery life but I kinda figured it would not be as good going in seeing that every LTE device I've seen and used has had very poor battery life compared to the other phones I've used.
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Its a great phone and I actually believe in sprint's network vision plans. If they don't make it happen, I will be up for a new contract then, I can either go back to my work provided BB or change carriers. Rocking this phone but roaming to verizon.......
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Gman what are your speeds when you roam on Verizon? Also won't Sprint eventually kick you out? lol
As i stated in the verizon prl thread i go from crappie to less crappie , seriously though, I only get about 250-300ish/kbps on sprints latest prl, on verizon i can achieve anywhere from 400's-7xx's +. I only roam when out and about, at home or near wifi, stay on sprints network.
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Gman what are your speeds when you roam on Verizon? Also won't Sprint eventually kick you out? lol
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As i stated in the verizon prl thread i go from crappie to less crappie , seriously though, I only get about 250-300ish/kbps on sprints latest prl, on verizon i can achieve anywhere from 400's-7xx's +. I only roam when out and about, at home or near wifi, stay on sprints network.
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Thanks, I'll search for the Verizon PRL thread. Can you just basically turn it on and off when you want?
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What are some of the cons and pros if the nexus? Also Is it as smooth as the sII? Thanks
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This phone is very smooth. The whole OS is very different, some people are *****ing about it over in the GN section, but I actually like it. This change is good. And if anybody says the screen is worse than other screens because it's pentile, they are full of crap and haven't looked at the screen in person, because it looks damn good.
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Zorachus said:
For you then it's a no brainer to go to Verizon with those kinds of discounts. But for most moving from Sprint to Verizon would be a costly venture, higher monthly payments on Verizon, pay ETF for leaving Sprint, buy the new Nexus + accessories.
If I had the extra cash to burn I might think about, mainly for the network, Sprint just sucks so bad for crappy speeds, 3G is like 1x speeds. I sure hope Sprint does indeed improve their network next year like they say, because I will leave for sure when contract is up if we still keep getting these dial up modem speeds.
But just as a device, the Sprint Galaxy SII is AMAZING and AWESOME, I LOVE this device, great screen...killer long battery life...very fast and zero lag whatsoever..great development community here...I can only see one maybe two hits against the Sprint Galaxy SII, #1 the network sucks, and #2 no ICS yet, but that's it. But once a full stable ICS ROM is out this phone will probably be a bit smoother and faster than the Galaxy-Nexus.
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I had my ETF waived by Sprint Retentions, I just have to return my airave, which I don't mind doing since I won't have Sprint anymore. I pull over 1 meg download over Verizon 3G everywhere I go, more often its over a meg and a half. Where on Sprint in the same locations I wouldn't even pull 300 kb/s. I know Sprint is going to get better, I just don't want to pay for a service for 2 more years before I see any difference.
Now Sprint 3G in Charlotte? Over 2 mb/s, really unbelievable, I never would have thought I would have seen those speeds on Sprint 3g anywhere. Columbia, SC? Forget it, 300 kb/s or less.
Now I'm just waiting for Sprint stock to go back up to 2.91 where it was last month lol and then sell, wait for it to drop and buy again.
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This phone is very smooth. The whole OS is very different, some people are *****ing about it over in the GN section, but I actually like it. This change is good. And if anybody says the screen is worse than other screens because it's pentile, they are full of crap and haven't looked at the screen in person, because it looks damn good.
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I had my ETF waived by Sprint Retentions, I just have to return my airave, which I don't mind doing since I won't have Sprint anymore. I pull over 1 meg download over Verizon 3G everywhere I go, more often its over a meg and a half. Where on Sprint in the same locations I wouldn't even pull 300 kb/s. I know Sprint is going to get better, I just don't want to pay for a service for 2 more years before I see any difference.
Now Sprint 3G in Charlotte? Over 2 mb/s, really unbelievable, I never would have thought I would have seen those speeds on Sprint 3g anywhere. Columbia, SC? Forget it, 300 kb/s or less.
Now I'm just waiting for Sprint stock to go back up to 2.91 where it was last month lol and then sell, wait for it to drop and buy again.
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How did you get your ETF waived?!

EVO3D to Galaxy Nexus

Hi all -
Wanted some opinions from anyone that used to have the EVO 3D and made the switch over the this phone.
I've been a long time fan of HTC, however I want something different, better (?) and of course native ICS.
Is this THE phone to have right now or is the Droid Razer a better option?
I'm an advanced user, I flash ROMs , root etc.. I know what's up..
Thanks!
I personally made this jump myself . For starters leaving Sprint and going to any network (atleast in my area) will give you lightyears better service . I now have high speed 3G access compared to Sprint . Im sure this will be the same regardless if you are going to Tmobile or Verizon or AT&T . Second the device , at one time I held HTC in high regards with their devices even though the battery life left something to be desired . I feel the Nexus gets better battery life then the EVO 3D ever could dream of . The screen on the Nexus makes the Evo3D screen look like crap in my opinion . Overall I havent missed the 3D since I jumped ship. I to used to flash roms and kernels on the EVO3D but I have found even though I rooted my Nexus as it stands by itself with out messing with it . The Nexus is a very enjoyable phone to use straight out of the box . Some say Samsung has a plastic like feel to it . To be honest most of my phones are always in a case so I dont really notice it all that much . Personally I dont think you will miss Sense that much unless you really utillized all the things sense put into android . Me I never really used much of the sense aspects of the HTC's , I always rooted them and went to the closest to AOSP I could get . On the development side of things , Roms and kernels are starting to pick up pace . With the Nexus being a developer phone in the first place there is always going to be a following with it . Unlike the transition I expierenced when I went from the EVO4G to the EVO3D . Development for the 4G was great lots to choose from then went to 3D and HTC's poor handling of unlocking the bootloader and the devs migrated to other phones and the Evo line development stalled out . Atleast in the 3D side of things it did in my opinion . Overall I I dont miss sprint and its unlimited slow as hell network . The Evo3D is a thing of the past to me and I laugh everytime I see one now knowing I used to have one . Also as a side note I feel the Nexus 5 MP cam takes way better pics then the EVO3D 5MP ever did . This is nothing more than my opinion gathered from my own expierence so take it with a grain of salt . But personally I dont think you will be disappointed .
Since RAZR is Motorola. And this is a Nexus device, you stated you flash ROMs.
I'd go with Galaxy Nexus because its a developer phone and you'll get great support with numerous developers.
I made the jump. (TLDR at the bottom)
Network
Verizon's network is miles better than Sprint's. I get service in places that Sprint doesn't even know exist. For 4G networks there isn't even a competition. With Sprint I topped out at 7 Mbps. With Verizon if I get anything less than 20 I think there is a problem. Coveragewise I've driven 80 miles and haven't left 4G coverage yet.
Phone
The Galaxy Nexus is skinny and curvy at the same time. It is way thinner and lighter than the brick Evo 3D I used to carry around. Be careful, the Galaxy Nexus is very delicate. I dropped it once and it cracked the screen. I remember one time I dropped my Evo 3D and it cracked the sidewalk. The screen is not as big as people try to make out to be and it looks beautiful (at higher brightnesses, it can look very bad at lower brightness). If you think your Evo 3D speaker volume is too low you are in for a rude surprise with the Galaxy Nexus. The speaker on this is quieter than Britney Spears' dietitian. I got pretty good battery life with Evo 3D but the Galaxy Nexus is better. I just imagine how much better it will be when the fix these bugs in ICS (more on that later). Earpiece quality is slightly better. Sound quality through headphones is immensely better. The NFC hardware included is a bonus. I don't know if this is hardware or software but the Galaxy Nexus charges freakishly fast. It is the fastest charging phone I have ever seen.
Stock ICS vs Sense Gingerbread
You already know. I don't even run a ROM because ICS is that good. Smooth as a baby's bottom. I have some complaints but most of those are not ICS faults, they are general Android faults. I HATE HATE HATE the contact pictures. If somebody calls you it shows a blurry low-res (but blown up to almost full screen) picture if they don't have Google+. It has been this way for a long time but the problem is worse now. When I see this 96x96 picture blown up on my gorgeous 720p screen I wanna puke. As far as ICS (HC) specific complaints, you might have a problem with the lack of USB mass storage. Also, the option to share a contact with a text message is gone. You can only share them via email or bluetooth. Finally ICS suffers from a horrible bug that causes "Android OS" to keep the phone awake for a crazy amount of time. If I leave it sitting idle overnight (8 hours), Android OS keep awake time will be 7+ hours. It doesn't let the phone sleep properly and causes unnecessary battery drain. Despite this I leave LTE on all day and still get better battery life than the Evo 3D.
TLDR:Verizon is way better and faster than Sprint. The Galaxy Nexus is way sexier and prettier than the Evo 3D. ICS is way better than GB.
Thanks everyone!
These are all great replies. Very insightful. I just need to make up my mind once and for all.
Upon my searches through the interwebz I come across Sprints Landing page for the Nexus.
( I can't post links here yet due to post count, I've been banned 3 times! for making the MODs cry)
That certainly puts a kink in my plans. The main issue being is that no other carrier offers truly unlimited data. They milk you for an additional addon package that is always ridiculous.
I pay a flat 130 a month, NO MATTER how many text, web data, etc are used. My company uses an exchange account as well, EVERY email has a 500KB picture or some kind of attachment. 200+ emails a day received. I use a lot of data.
With Sprint getting this phone and LTE sometime this year, it's tough for me to move now.. But I will keep everyones posts in mind.
Thanks again.
I also switched from the Evo 3D, and do not regret it whatsoever.
First of all, I was SO sick of Sprint's 3G service (if you could even call it that), and 4g? I got it almost nowhere. It's night and day going from Sprint to Verizon.
Now the phones themselves are somewhat similar, large screens with good ppi, 5mp decent cameras, kinda ****ty battery life, 1.2ghz dualcore processors, same ram, etc.
The thing about the Nexus is that in almost every one of those specs, it's at least slightly better. Not to mention it's got ICS, the bootloader easily unlocks, and no wait for root after OTAs.
I thought I would hate the side power button, the super plasticky design, and the single-led flash that's all been known to come from Samsung. Honestly, I love the power button on the side, with a screen this large (and even the Evo's screen), it's much easier to push with your thumb instead of the top. The plastic is only on the back really, and feels much tougher and well put together than my 3Vo. And the single LED flash is still plenty bright and works great for pictures.
I thought I would miss 3D, even just a little bit. Not so, I don't miss it. I mean, it was cool at parties, but that was about it. You are going to LOVE how quickly the nexus takes pictures, I feel like I'm walking around with a DSLR that can snap 5 pictures a second, it's awesome!
A tip: if you can buy out an old verizon contract, even if they aren't upgrade eligible, do it just for the unlimited data. Verizon 4G is super easy to eat through your data cap. I almost did this (would have lost my number) but then found the "hack" to get unlimited data, which is still in effect. Also, try to get on a family plan if you can, I switched myself from Sprint and my family from ATT, and I'm now paying almost half of what I did on a single Sprint account, with insurance and no discount! Btw, look to see if there is currently a way to get out of Sprint ETF free, I did it in September when they made a materially adverse change by adding a small $2 fee to everyone's bill, so getting to verizon didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Long story short: Get the Gnex if you can get unlimited data. Otherwise, plan on using WiFi whenever possible, and still get the gnex. I wouldn't advise if you plan on using cloud storage for music, because I use google music a LOT, and it EATS data. Also, but the extended battery, worth every penny.
If you have time to read my weird phone situation:
Unfortunately, I did end up having to use a burner phone for 3 months while I waited and waited for the Gnex to arrive. That was an aggravating 3 months, it was literally the worst POS phone ever. It had a cracked screen, was an extremely damaged and scratched to hell Samsung flip phone I got out of a recycling bin for phones I used to get out of my sprint contract before the last day to get out ETF free without losing my phone number. It had pr0n of the previous owner's wife on it too, crazy stuff. Worst thing was it only held 50 text messages, kept having to erase my old ones.

Despite the Faults...

I love this device. Completely open, supported by AOSP. Fast, smooth, and gorgeous.
Some people just nitpick themselves into misery. There are always lemons (amoled screens, esp) in mass produced phones, but I feel like the Nexus is getting a rep that they are ALL like that. Its simply not true. There are issues, sure, but they can pretty much be remedied by software.
I've had this phone since the Verizon release and love everything about it except the radios (GPS and cell). It really showed up this weekend as I was in Northern Minnesota snowmobiling in some really bad reception areas. I normally use My Tracks to map our route and the GPS was constantly loosing it's lock and the map looked like a dotted route instead of a nice solid route. Also, my time without signal was around 58% when my brother and my old Droid X2 was only about 12%. Being that I love doing outdoor things in sketchy signal areas, I'm really hoping they fix the radio in the next build.
I have no issues with battery life, screen quality, overall size though. I love this phone and just wish that Samsung would buy Moto for their radio chips (although they aren't perfect either, but better than HTC and Samsung in my experience).
I also don't think I could go back to a phone without on screen buttons.
Yea this phone has it faults just like all phones do but its still a great phone
I loved your work on the Thunderbolt. I know you got a ROM out but its been pretty quiet. You guys got anything big coming?
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Yeah. We have a pretty huge project we have been working on for the last month. Out soon, I hope.
adrynalyne said:
I love this device. Completely open, supported by AOSP. Fast, smooth, and gorgeous.
Some people just nitpick themselves into misery. There are always lemons (amoled screens, esp) in mass produced phones, but I feel like the Nexus is getting a rep that they are ALL like that. Its simply not true. There are issues, sure, but they can pretty much be remedied by software.
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I completely agree!! There is absolutely no phone for which I'd trade this one!!
Gotta get the Galaxy Nexus Plus.
I agree, Despite any of the flaws, i have gone threw roughly a dozen Android Handsets, from the G1, to G2x, Droid Razr, Sensation just to name a few. I even had the Galaxy S, which i HATED! But everything about this phone is amazing. Like any other device, it has its flaws (Battery compromised because of the HD screen) but overall, its completly open source, you can customize it to your exact liking, and runs like a beast.
Bravo Samsung
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Gotta get the Galaxy Nexus Plus.
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I'd rather have a lesser phone on the Verizon network than go to Sprint.
they will just be getting more of the same anyway.
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I'd rather have a lesser phone on the Verizon network than go to Sprint.
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After having Sprint for 4 years and now on Verizon for about 2 months, I can 100% agree with this statement.
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I'd rather have a lesser phone on the Verizon network than go to Sprint.
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I'd rather have a lesser phone on ANY gsm network than go to verizon...
I rather be able to make a call vs. any "other" gsm network.
/me looks at the no service patches for Tmo in town.
I love my Nexus. People who nitpick haven’t been around the block as much as I have. After you’ve owned a myriad of other phones you truly appreciate the beauty and simplicity of the Nexus. Here's what I’ve been through over the past 2 years:
1) Samsung Capitivate – Terrible GPS and slooowww updates. Did I mention really bad GPS, like 200 yards off bad GPS..
2) HTC Inspire 4G – Good phone, terrible screen in the daylight, AT&T’s network.
3) HTC Thunderbolt – Sigh, extended battery was a brick, botched GB/voicemail update (what?, you left me a voicemail, when???). Spotty GPS and 4G issues.
4) Droid Bionic – Locked bootloader with no unlock in sight (I think). Screen and Moto blur started to annoy me.
I’ve only had my Nexus for a few days but I’m NOT going back to the above. Maybe I would feel differently if this was my first Android phone but it wasn’t. Other than battery life I have no complaints worth talking about. This phone stays until the next Nexus is released, period!
Ive had sprint for years, and recently got out of my ETF because of their new discount policy. I switched to att just to get the Galaxy Nexus unlocked on their hspa+ network and it has been amazing so far. Sprint has such a long way to go to even begin their LTE launch. So sad to see the leader of 4g technology take a big dump on the wireless industry
Had sprint for years until their 3g and lol 4g got over sold. Left for AT&T and couldn't be happier. Have 5 lines with AT&T and moved my last odd line from sprint to Verizon for the nexus and again, night and day service difference.
Funny thing is my Verizon costs are the same as sprint. Texting through google voice and I use grooveip for calls when my minutes get low. 4gb of data is plenty for me especially when it actually works. Most of my sprint speed tests were measured in fractions of a mbit. Usually sub 150 kbs. Pathetic. They can keep their premium data add on
Aridon i did exactly what you did! Left for ATT got an unlocked Nexus though. never been happier
Completely agree with OP, this is probably the best phone I have ever had, hands down. I have no issues with it what so ever.
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I'll add that you should push verizon for a new phone if you are having a lot of data and/or voice drops.
I got a new phone and the difference is night and day... No drops now
+1 on this. Coming from HTC I was very skeptical about Samsung and their plastic and the 'less good' GPU. But everything else is so got damn great about this phone that the plastic and GPU doesn't bug me anymore . I'm sure I'll keep this phone until the next nexus is out .
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Ya, I'm pretty stoked about it...
It just makes me more excited for the 2013/2014 nexus!!!
I can't wait to hear the complaints then! ...We'll be complaining about having a 8-core nexus with 4GB ram when 16-core phones with 8GB ram are just around the corner!

Just ordered the Sprint version, already second guessing it

I dont know if I made the right decision...should I have went with the Epic 4g Touch instead? Or waited for the Evo 4g LTE? I hate making big purchases like this, I always get buyer's remorse
You made good choice I am on Verizon so I can't tell you about Sprint's service but 4G should improve a lot for sprint.
I like having it rooted and getting all the updates my friend who has stock is still on 4.0.2 on Verizon he is with me on family plan though hopefully at least sprint does better job =]
What are you regretting? You have a phone that is almost top of the line (Dual instead of Quad core, really not that big of a deal). That will be getting the latest Android releases weeks (Or days) after release compared to months or years. Finally, a phone that will have dev support for it's entire life compared to phones that will only be relevant for maybe a year.
Why do you have buyers remorse about? Is there something you dont like about the phone before you have received it? The GN is a great phone that most love. If you like custom firmware you cant have a better phone or group of devs than this device.
I have a dont reason, I just always second guess myself when I buy a phone. Im coming from an OG Evo and I did the same thing with it but ended up loving it. Ive read so many good things about the epic 4G Touch, I almost went with it but went with the Nexus because its newer...just hoping I made the right decision. Cant wait to get my hands on it and get it rooted.
This phone out performs the touch. And the evo has broken multitasking. This is a great phone. You really can't go wrong with this phone... seriously.
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Why would you choose the SGS2 over the GNex? You're being paranoid.
Thanks, you guys are definitely helping and easing my mind
I personally think you made the right choice, remember you have a week with the phone to decide if you like it or if you dont. I bet you will.
I was also second guessing this or the Evo but here are some reasons I took the gnex over the Evo.
1. NO F'ING removable battery. This is a must if I have to endure using it for at least two years. Batteries degrade and it would be useless a year in.
2. LCD not an amoled. I don't like LCD they don't produce colors like our phone and blacks as well. Regardless of everyone saying its good... they must be blind.
3. Sense 4.0 no explanation needed... sense is retarded.
4. Google support. Although limited (cdma) this phone will still receive faster updates.
5. Rootabliltiy. It was soo easy to root and your not limited. For HTC the only way to unlock is to void warranty and even then... you have to worry about hboot versions. No thanks. You may void warranty by unlocking this phone but you can always relock it nor use an exploit to root without unlocking.
All in all this phone is the obvious choice.
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I moved from the gs2 to the nexus, and i couldn't be happier
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hi
How's the radio and signal strength compare to nexus s 4g?
I'm tired of having almost no bars most of the time.
I went from Sprint and the Epic 4G Touch to Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. I do not regret either move.
Was the E4GT a good phone. Sure was. Is the Galaxy Nexus a better phone. Sure is. There is nothing to regret about the GNEX and I would not buy a phone today on Sprint that is not LTE.
I am sure Sprint will one day change their data plans and go to tiered data when people switch to LTE phones. If you get in now with unlimited LTE, you should at least be safe until you complete your contract. Then at that point they will either allow you to grandfather it because you already have an LTE device or they can pull what Verizon will be pulling.....
Also, why buy a phone with Wimax when Sprint no longer building it out. What you see is what you get. Nothing improving on that end.
Only other phone I would even look at for comparison is the SGS3. Then it comes down to Pure ICS or Touchwiz. Either way, you will still end up with a great phone.
One thing I can say with owning a GNEX is I don't feel the need to purchase every new phone announced which is a big thing compared to every other phone I have owned. There is something about owning a Nexus device that makes you not care what other phones have.....Really cannot explain it but you need to own one to understand.
Only thing I wished was the GNEX had the camera from the SGS2. Then this thing would be perfect but, in this world nothing is perfect so you need to settle to the closest thing!
You won't regret it. I switched from the Sprint E4GT to the VZW GNex and haven't regretted either move at all. Like eman3316 said, I have not wanted to rush out and buy every new phone on the market since owning the GNex, which is something I can't say for any other device I've owned including the Nexus S. I always wanted the next better phone to come out, but I no longer spend unnecessary money on unnecessary phones.
I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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Whoa... Did you just say OGevo camera is better? ... Your comment is now irrelevant and should be erased.. Lol ...
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Whoa... Did you just say OGevo camera is better? ... Your comment is now irrelevant and should be erased.. Lol ...
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Agreed. I love this camera.
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housry23 said:
You won't regret it. I switched from the Sprint E4GT to the VZW GNex and haven't regretted either move at all. Like eman3316 said, I have not wanted to rush out and buy every new phone on the market since owning the GNex, which is something I can't say for any other device I've owned including the Nexus S. I always wanted the next better phone to come out, but I no longer spend unnecessary money on unnecessary phones.
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I switched from the Evo 3D to the VZW GNex...at first I wasn't sure if I really wanted to switch from Sprint...but once I got onto the LTE network...those doubts QUICKLY went away. I thought about getting the Sprint GNex...but the loss of 4G for an extended period of time didn't sit well with me, especially since Sprint's 3G network practically sucks.
I can see that being the only drawback of getting it on Sprint.
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I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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1. This amoled... needs tweaking... when the rgb and gama are tweaked in ROMS it is perfect... i have perfected it anyways... i do agree this amoled is off. But that LCD is crap... i dont like blacklit things... my LCD tv has two giant burn ins so it doesnt just happen to amoleds.
2.This camera is f'ing amazing.. your f'ing blind... go check out the post pictures from your gnex thread... your jaw will drop. The og evo... no just no...
3. UM what? Duh what do you expect... this phone is not built for preformance it is meant for openess... having a closed architecture processor such as the S4 is pointless just wait... it will be 6 months before that thing sees the light of day of the next android version. Where it will be sitting on our front door when it comes out.
4. I dont agree... this is all on location... if you live in a place that is known for crappy service then yes it will drop more than other phones. If you live in a place with "normal" signal then you have nothing to worry about.
The gnex is the better phone all around... the HTC is for the fanboys of HTC not us.
I definitely understand what you coming from the evo LTE is a good looking device but sense kills it for me plus having own evos in the past besides group they take like 8 months to release the new updat and ain't detailing with that anymore plus stock ICS is the best OS yet for android and jellybean will be game changer and unless you wanted 6-8 months later go for the evo the camera in this phone is just right I take pics only for sharing on Facebook to my family and there good enough sure is not the best but look at the pluses on this phone
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[Sprint] Why the Galaxy S3 over the EVO LTE?

Temporarily using a Blackberry 9650 while I decide which phone I want to buy. Had the EVO LTE for a few weeks last month and I enjoyed it, but did notice a couple of glaring performance issues mainly when heavily multi-tasking. I'm going to walk into the Sprint store today and have some hands-on with the GS3 to see if I can replicate these kinds of problems on it also (seeing as they run the same SoC).
So what made you pick one over the other? The main reason I'm leaning toward the GS3 now is because of the 2gb of RAM, which makes it seem a little more future proof. The EVO LTE looks and feels better, and also has a better camera (although I really don't like HTC's camera software). The screens are both great. Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues. The EVO LTE was great in this department, and historically this hasn't been Samsung's strongpoint, so if anyone who has the phone and would like to chime in please feel free!
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, and I know that "just try them both and pick whichever you prefer" seems best for most, but I'm the type of person that also likes to get opinions from other techies, just in case there's something I'm overlooking
I heard the EVO has a "reboot problem" in the OS, causing it to randomly reboot often. As far as hardware goes, the EVO might just have the upper hand (I'm speaking mostly due to camera).
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
I personally just think I've seen it all with sense, one of my major reasons was that I had a galaxy note before the evo lte and I got use to the feeling of big phones, I found the evo to be a bit too narrow, the s3 is slightly wider. Also multi tasking was kinda horrible on the evo lte. With that being said I didn't root the evo because I had the intention of returning it for the s3 from day one, so maybe i would've enjoyed it more if it was rooted
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues
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I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
The Root said:
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Well the HTC One X camera uses a BSI sensor and f/2.0 lens. What it translates to in real-world usage is anyone's guess, but on paper the camera is supposed to be better.
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
vulcZ said:
The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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Oh, apparently I was wrong about that, is it the one x that doesn't? maybe I'm going crazy
The only thing that I can say that I didn't like about the evo was: the non removable battery, lack of multitasking. But I do miss the screen and that awesome camera button.
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I had the evo lte and loved it but the only thing tgat annoyed me was the weak antenna it woukd always drop dignal and also the evo lte has better cam than sg3 and also evo lte feels more sturdy the sg3 is a goid phone also pretty fast and good multy tasking i dont mind the non removable vattery on evo lte but both great phones also negative about sg3 ut feels very plasticky
Im on my SG3
SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
Man, I was heavily leaning towards the GS3 until today. I went to the Sprint store on my lunch break and played with both phones extensively, and in the end the GS3 suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did, so I'm guessing it's maybe related to ICS? To be more specific, I'm picky. I like having a phone that switches from task to task very quickly (I felt my Epic 4G Touch did that very well). So for example, if I'm on the app store downloading app after app, the phones will begin to slow a little during installs if I switching from screen to screen. I thought at first it was maybe the LTEVO, but I was able to replicate that behavior on the GS3 also, so it's safe to say that the 2gb of RAM isn't really needed, or is at least not helping any of the "real world" tests I tried.
Also, the camera on the LTEVO is quite a bit better. It was both faster, and offered better quality shots more consistently. HTC's camera software absolutely sucks, but I think the camera unit is better. I tested the macro settings and they were significantly better on the LTEVO. Basically, I could focus on things closer to the lens compared to the GS3.
So I think I'm going to pick the LTEVO again. I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing the GS3. In all honesty either of those phones are an absolute great choice since they are extremely similar where it counts, and really only different in the personal preference areas (such as look, build, removable battery, etc). Performance is just about the same on both phones. I hope this thread was as helpful to someone else as it was to me
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SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
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For the EVO LTE bad list, you sound like you're nitpicking for a longer list. How many people send texts through the dialer? The HTCLinkify thing can be removed (so the click on a phone number thing is fixable), the EVO LTE has a button in the notification to get into settings (not as good as toggles, but not as bad as "nothing"). the loud speaker being too low is arbitrary.
You also left out some cons for the SGS3. There's a LOT of proprietary software that isn't very good (sounds like Sense doesn't it?), S-Voice is a gimmick.
There's just as many Sense haters as there are Touchwiz haters...it all comes down to preference. I'm going for the LTE because it's many of the same developers who's softwares I've been using since the OG EVO. Can't beat that pedigree. For most people, though, it's a question of would they rather be bloated down by Touchwiz and have a blue phone or be bloated down by HTC Sense and have a black phone with a kickstand. Otherwise, the specs are too identical to even consider voting one way or the other.
I was in love with the new evo, and when I saw my employee pricing through best buy for the gs3 I fell in love with it more ahaha. Some doof in corporate marked it 350 off contract so I traded in my 3d and it payed for it. But after playing with my friends evo, I realized that I liked my phone better. Touchwiz 5 is great IMO and I was ready to try something other than a HTC phone.
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Yes Odin is awesome
I completely agree
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
there are already a ton of gs3 vs evolte threads bro
Poetik said:
I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
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Exactly my experience and thoughts. +1
Before even reading the rest of the replies I'll post my 2¢. Just picked up the Galaxy S3 on Monday evening.
I had the EVO 4G original at release and LOVED LOVED LOVED IT - then last June it, along with half my electronics at home, was the victim of a lightning hit down the alley on one of the transformers. Fortunately my computer gear survived. But I digress. From the EVO 4G I went to the EVO 3D, which, while the phone itself was OK, there wasn't as much of a development community out there for it as some other phones, my OG EVO especially. Cyanogen never came out for it in a year, and battery life ended up being worse and worse over time. If I'd kept the OG EVO I'd probably have been in a much different frame of mind regarding HTC's phones, but the 3D was just not their greatest hit.
Ultimately, I was torn between the 4G LTE and S3 - got both in my hands to play with and was still torn. Ultimately, I didn't want another HTC 'black slab' and I learned to dislike Sense more and more, since many of the higher functioning ROMs out there were Sense-based and I had to run ADW or another launcher on top of it.
So far I couldn't be happier with my choice. I got the blue, no case (maybe I will), and have not rooted (yet). I like the touchwiz interface, have pared down my homescreens to only 4 like I prefer, and battery life is outstanding! I am going to let it discharge all the way and see how long I can squeeze out of it. It's the idle/standby time that is so outstanding in my mind. Only a few percentage points gone overnight as opposed to 30-40% with the EVO 3D.
Oh, and the screen on this thing is amazing. So clear and sharp and beautiful...and as big as cellphone screens should ever get! Seriously.
Because of one thing - the name
Saying "Galaxy S3" is much easier than Saying "Sprint EVO 4G LTE". But don't listen to us. Walk, ride, skip or fly over to your nearest sprint store and see for yourself. The GS3 has 2GB of ram which is really awesome when multitasking. If you ask me all high end devices should have 2GB of ram. Other than that it's about the build. The EVO has a nicer screen, it feels like a solid brick that could hurt someone, and it has a kick stand. The GS3 feels soft like a babies bottom or a mammary and it looks super awesome also like a mammary. Amirite?
I actually feel differently on the aspect of development. I came from the OG EVO also, and dev support on that thing was amazing. From that I "upgraded" to the EVO 3D, but soon thereafter switched to the Epic 4G Touch as soon as it launched. Dev support just wasn't there for the EVO 3D. After I did some research, it made sense (no pun intended), but the EVO 3D was doomed from the start. What I mean by that is that it was never intended to be the true successor to the OG EVO, and thus not a lot of devs followed the device. Made perfect sense. The Epic 4G Touch had *better* dev support, but it still wasn't anywhere near what the OG EVO had.
I guess either way it's too early to tell which of the two (LTEVO and GS3) is going to have better dev support, but for some reason my gut is telling me that the LTEVO will.
I don't know if I agree with the 2gb of RAM on a phone just yet. iOS is a pretty crappy multi-tasking OS, yet the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM and it's still a very good performing phone by today's standards. I also tested the SG3 (as mentioned in one of my previous posts), and it suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did when running it through my personal "real world" tests. So at least in my experience, the 2gb didn't seem to help the SG3.
Either way, both great phones. No clear winner over the other, when taking everything into consideration

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