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I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it
megaxp said:
hI GUYS....
I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it
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I wondered if Mozilla would ever come out with a mobile browser! I gotta check it out.
to me really ... it looks dull .... no like cool graphics,,, no 2008 and beyond look... but it has no flash ... no disrespect.. to you or mozilla but i excepted better from them but who knows .... maybe its only a beta or something
it is beta...
but come on what would you expect from an aplication on a mobile phone... what about the graphs of opera or IE are they much better...
hmm how does this differ from the older versions? because ive 'used' them and it was awful.
first time i tried it, it wouldnt even start, second time in interface was so difficult to navigate...
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones
es_bih said:
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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Yes it can be used on smartphone as well...
I just installed it twice; it is able to istall on the device, but it is not able to be used. The browser loads up and I cannot navigate with my cursor or joggr pad thorugh the browser.
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I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones
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I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.
es_bih said:
I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.
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i have tried it and is working purfect.... i wouldnt make a post with out a reason... and is very stable as well...
I have too on my dash with 6.1 and am not able to browse or use it. it loads up but i cannot navigate through the browser to select anything. hence why i bothered to ask questions
minimo "works" on Windows Mobile 5 and later devices, both pro and standard. the seemingly un-navigable interface can be operated with buttons, but I can never recall what does what and it always just starts doing weird things, after a lot of struggling.
After reinstalling it about 7 times it finally worked by using the soft buttons to navigate through. However, not stable at all to browse at least on my device.
It takes forever to load and closes when underload. Opera Mini FTW.
kept crashing.
It has promise on a ppc. It looks too much like a touch application. Opera Mobile works much better as a full web browser for the Dash at the moment and Mini for quick viewing.
seems like its causing my phone to crash because its a memory hogger by far.
Never got darn thing to load
After installing Minimo would always hang up. Pity as I love Firefox,(but I love Opera too) On puter I use Opera for all research ect in English and Firefox for Portuguese. My vote is with Opera Mini
the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?
cheers for the heads up - downloading now - sounds promising.
Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240
yes really nice browser but the navigation could be more intuitive. but i think he works great and fast and thats it
Fast? Are you sure... it seems to be uite slow in loading. The operation is fast, and scrolling once loaded nice... but nothing special.
iris is pretty slow over gprs but not bad on wifi, it does however render much better than any other mobile browser..
Iris, Opera, Skyfire
I like the opera for the nice smooth look around in websites thing.. And iris is nice animations between wesite changes it like fades but it seems its kinda the same as opera to showing websites.. But it can´t show every website with flash content.. And i found a browser that can do it.. Skyfire new release now for Touch HD with wvga screen.. It takes all sites flash content and everything.. It is also fastest browser of them all.. Im not sure about if it works with edge.. I only have 3g and HSDPA.. In mobile browser type "get.skyfire.com" like internet explorer, opera diddent work for me to download skyfire in.
jalv3000 said:
the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?
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I just tried version 1.0.1.6. a few days ago. Is this the same version or newer than that?
this one is 1.1....really nice.
iplayer on iris
bbc iplayer doesnt even work on it so how is it good
Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.
I prefer Netfront cos : in Iris the keyboard don't appear when you're in a textbox, and the doubletap to zoom is painful because when you want to tap on a button, it's so hard than you double tap everytime.
eaglesteve said:
Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.
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I agree with this. Opera mmini offers the best "net experience" smooth and fast. Not perfect, though.
Does anyone know if it is capable of multiple pages or tabs?
jalv3000 said:
Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240
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I've installed both Iris Browser (like it!) and Flash Lite 3.1 from this link above but flash contents won't show up on my HD - just a white screen ... what do I have to do?
Eriol
i tried this out today on wifi and also on HSPDA and i much prefer the opera browser then this one, its just not as fast for lookin at things on the internet, its not as easy to go and click on things, or work your way around the page.
i have yet to try flash properly on my htc HD, the only way i have used it so far was with skyfire (new wvga version).
anyone prefer this browser?
I really love this browser.... simple and easy to use.....
Hello
For me I like it a lot it's fast and the zoom is working well
It's supporting the landcaspe...
personnaly I'm converted
just tried 1.1.1. it's not bad but needs some work. Zoom in /out + scrolling around is slow compared to Opera (build 15529), switching between tabs is fiddly (you have to go into the menu to switch, no fast button like Opera), address bar is tiny (and keeps hiding itself) plus it's a memory hog (or it has a memory leak - had to reboot my phone after surfing just one website).
to summarise, it's promising but still needs quite a bit of work.
New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/
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New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/
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Thanks for the info
installed working great
Looks like opera has finally released the beta of opera 9.7 mobile browser!!
Found on their homepage!!
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
thebigbang said:
Looks like opera has finally released the beta of opera 9.7 mobile browser!!
Found on their homepage!!
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
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Admin delete plz....... 12032324 topic to day about it!
you are not only one to realize that
why did you open new thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498189
oops sorry.....
opera vs skyfire 10
I have both new opera mobile and newskyfire 10.
my thought on the 2,is that skyfire has opera 9.7
beat hands down.with new skyfire,rendering is
a lot faster and new zooming feature is better.also I don't have to worry about getting
flash to work,flash videos play just like on desktop
with no lag.one other thing is that you keep
your speed without having to disable something
to download. I will try and post both cabs and opera widgets
opera vs skyfire v10
short message,hands down new skyfire still has the lead.sorry tried to up load cabs but having security issues
skyfire v10
here it skyfire
opera9.7
opera mobile 9.7.sorry couldnt upload cab
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I have both new opera mobile and newskyfire 10.
my thought on the 2,is that skyfire has opera 9.7
beat hands down.with new skyfire,rendering is
a lot faster and new zooming feature is better.also I don't have to worry about getting
flash to work,flash videos play just like on desktop
with no lag.one other thing is that you keep
your speed without having to disable something
to download. I will try and post both cabs and opera widgets
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rendering looks crap on skyfire imho ... you have to zoom in to not see everything blurry .. and opera definately has the better, more fingerfriendly controls.
thebigbang said:
Looks like opera has finally released the beta of opera 9.7 mobile browser!!
Found on their homepage!!
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
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best fastest most reliable mobile browser ever tried and far better than 9.5 screen rotation has been real improved and with respect to the battery killer and connection sucker skyfire this 9.7 Opera is the best to have in your pocket
Skyfire is not a web browser, it's a remote desktop client. You're using it to view the page that's being downloaded and rendered on a server. The server then sends you a screenshot of what it has rendered.
Maybe in US you have a skyfire server close and through a high bandwidth link, but outside US it's too slow, you zoom and you see an JPG zoomed for several seconds. Also, the bandwidth it uses is bigger, which can be an issue if you use Internet on the road and not through WiFi / Activesync.
Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow. But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that. On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!
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Hey guys, so as far as I know, most people use the Opera browser and that the IE browser is really slow.
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They seem about the same to me. Though I can't get opera to work when on wifi.
But I also found the Skyfire browser, but I have also seen mixed reviews on that.
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Yeah, It used to work great for me about a year ago on my BlackJack II, But over the last year it seems to have been getting slower and slower, and buggier to boot. I thought maybe it would work like a breeze on the tilt2 having a faster processor etc... but seem to be the same old mess. Sometimes it loads up really fast, others it times out, tells me no connection, or just forgets its loading a page. Seems to be pretty hit or miss if people still have a good experience with it.
On my PC I used Google Chrome (which I love!), anyone know if Google is going to come out with a WinMo browser? (Yeah, I know that they have their own OS but thats not the point). Thanks!
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No, they are not. They only did that for windows desktop to pull people into the google experience on the desktop so they will be more willing to switch to chromium OS. It's the same "marketing" strategy that apple uses when they force safari and quicktime on you when you install itunes. But Google plays nice and doesn't install itself behind your back.
I pretty much just use Opera 9.7. Seems to work as well as anything. If you're looking for something like Skyfire (compressed proxy based browser) Opera Mini works pretty well, standalone version linked.
Opera 9.7 for me too. I prefer the scalable zoom over the 2 fixed zoom levels of Opera 10.
Once in a while, I will use Skyfire. A few sites seem to render better on Skyfire then Opera. But its Opera most of the time for me. Opera seems to be faster, and has a better zoom control.
IE is amazingly slow on my phone.
Skyfire FTW!!!
Opera 10 is working awesomely for me
Opera Mini 5 with the embedded Java package that someone here on XDA put together.
Mini is SO MUCH faster that Opera Mobile. Not even close IMO. It also seems to render most webpages better.
Skyfire is ok, but I tried an older version which was a bit buggy, not sure if their latest releases are better.
If you want to see flash then Skyfire for sure. For other things I use Opera 10.
@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.
I've been using SkyFire for about 6 months and I have loved it, BUT!!! the past couple days it has been total crap. They say they are fixing it on their forums... We will see... Opera it is for now.
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@ those using Opera 10: anyone successfully got the zoombar working. I thought I read somewhere about people working on this? I find 10 faster but as previously mentioned, control over zoom is needed.
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Opera 10 only have 2 zoom levels built-in (no scalable zoom), so the zoombar isn't going to work. I don't believe a hack is possible, since there is nothing there to hack (no scalable zoom to link the zoombar with).
Thanks for all of your opinions. I might try Opera Mini out when I get back home. But ill probably just play it safe for a while, in regards to Skyfire.
opera is a nice browser but it's pretty slow in my opinion. I have yet to try opera mini so I may give it a try. So far my fav is skyfire because it's the fastest that I have ever used. I think MS should just buy skyfire and put it in their windows mobile. It may help them to sell their windows mobile phone>
anyone know if our zoom bar can work with opera mini? One of my problem with skyfire is the zoom bar not working with it.
Bringing firefox to wp7 (wince build)
- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org//firefox/releases/3.6rc1/
In the ftp there is a wince-arm build & source code. We do have c++ full access (compile, run, call, etc); where the whole firefox runs from within "taskhost.exe" (COM+) instead of the "firefox.exe" (due we cant launch our own exe's).
As of we have now (The Dllimport Project):
Code:
[ComImport, Guid("F0D5AFD8-DA24-4e85-9335-BEBCADE5B92A"), ClassInterface(ClassInterfaceType.None)]
public class FileSystemClass { }
[ComImport, Guid("2C49FA3D-C6B7-4168-BE80-D044A9C0D9DD"), InterfaceType(ComInterfaceType.InterfaceIsIUnknown)]
public partial interface IFileSystemIO { ... }
- It would look something like this in the "fiinixfox" :
Code:
[ComImport, Guid("F0D5AFD8-DA24-4e85-9335-BEBCADE5B92A"), ClassInterface(ClassInterfaceType.None)]
public class FirefoxClass { }
[ComImport, Guid("2C49FA3D-C6B7-4168-BE80-D044A9C0D9DD"), InterfaceType(ComInterfaceType.InterfaceIsIUnknown)]
public partial interface IFirefox { Start(string args) }
- Yep, one method "Start", which actually imitates the "mozilla.exe" exe entry point 0x00400000 (standard entry point address).
- Then from there taskhost is just a "host" with as little Silverlight code as possible (best if just App.xaml) (no MainPage.xaml, MainPage is actually started from App.xaml) (or no Silverlight at all).
We do have the full source (3.6) (wince-arm), so there is not much preventing us to replace (hehe) IE9.
Well, as said before, im on vocation and i don't have my desktop (just my phone ), so this is just speculations witch i will compile later on bringing "fiinixfox" to Microsoft Windows "locked down" Phone
Hope it sounds good
Oh that sounds totally awesome! Can't wait!
FF isn't the most mobile friendly in term of optimization and performance. You would have to do a lot of backend work to make it 'usable' on any ARM device. I hope you can get some blessing from mozilla, but most of them are anti-microsoft. So good luck with your effort.
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FF isn't the most mobile friendly in term of optimization and performance. You would have to do a lot of backend work to make it 'usable' on any ARM device. I hope you can get some blessing from mozilla, but most of them are anti-microsoft. So good luck with your effort.
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Ever heard about fennec?
The mobile version of firefox produced and optimized by Mozilla themselves
ARMvX wince compatible.
i remember fennec being awfully slow and crashing :x
fiinix said:
Ever heard about fennec?
The mobile version of firefox produced and optimized by Mozilla themselves
ARMvX wince compatible.
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And Fennec is the crappiest browser ever made. I am more interested in what Opera has to offer.
diboze said:
i remember fennec being awfully slow and crashing :x
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On what device?
Did that device have 1GHz, 500MB ram~?
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It probably crashed alot due incapability or unstable code, a browser does not just crash randomly if its valid code through out the whole program (valid method pointers)
- Invalid method pointers: Static compiled dll reference (method ptr) that is pointing to wrong ram method (due wrong ".lib" - contains the ptr's). = Crash
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And Fennec is the crappiest browser ever made. I am more interested in what Opera has to offer.
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Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
Your idea sounds interesting, but we still have this Mango COM Block problem to solve without going back to NoDo. I'm wondering what the authors of TouchXplorer & Co will do about that.
Yet another problem is that Win CE was more like Windows as we know it from the Desktop. Point and Click, Hold Click for right click and so on. I doesn't exactly know how we can refit Firefox for newer Touch Devices with Gesture and Multitouch support. Wouldn't it not be easier, if we just use the rendering engine from Firefox and port it to an Silverlight app? Guess this won't work due to some WP7 limitations and we would end up rewriting it completely?
fiinix said:
Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
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Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Actually, Opera did not said that.
fiinix said:
Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
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Currently, the only two are available with source code.
Firefox for Windows CE: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/WindowsCE
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WebKit for Windows CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Seems pike the rumors got you; turned out to be "False alarm".
- http://m.wpcentral.com/opera-wp7-launching-ctia
> At the bottom: false alarm (also "next week we will see opera" < did never happen
Microsoft have protected their phone to only run IE :/
They don't want competitor's
- Only way is homebrew, sry
fiinix, I am wondering if it will be easier to port Firefox for CE or WebKit for CE to Windows Phone.
rudelm said:
Your idea sounds interesting, but we still have this Mango COM Block problem to solve without going back to NoDo. I'm wondering what the authors of TouchXplorer & Co will do about that.
Yet another problem is that Win CE was more like Windows as we know it from the Desktop. Point and Click, Hold Click for right click and so on. I doesn't exactly know how we can refit Firefox for newer Touch Devices with Gesture and Multitouch support. Wouldn't it not be easier, if we just use the rendering engine from Firefox and port it to an Silverlight app? Guess this won't work due to some WP7 limitations and we would end up rewriting it completely?
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There is full touch support and multitouch support due some wm6 had touch screens
Mango.. yeah.. Im currently still running NoDo due i hate block. But im perfectly fine.
I did actually find a possible interop bypass in Mango (fake marketplace, OEM hijack)
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fiinix, I am wondering if it will be easier to port Firefox for CE or WebKit for CE to Windows Phone.
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Webkit is also a possible but i havent looked at it yet; maybe port Google Crome?
fiinix said:
Webkit is also a possible but i havent looked at it yet; maybe port Google Crome?
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No, I mean WebKit was already ported to CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
It's also the base for Isis Browser.
day2die said:
No, I mean WebKit was already ported to CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
It's also the base for Isis Browser.
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Yeah i know Webkit is already ported to CE; Chrome uses it too and combined it makes Chrome super fast if it would be used on WP7 (CE).
Well we cant only have Webkit, we need a Javascript engine too (witch google is combined with (V8 JS engine) + built in Webkit).
Maybe Chrome or Firefox, both are c++ and open source
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Prooflink?
I wouldn't mind seeing Opera for WP7 - mainly because I was always impressed with the combination of speed, stability, and functionality it produces on other platforms (in particular WM6.x). Dolphin would be interesting as well.
As a Mango user, however, I must say I am thoroughly impressed at the speed and stability mobile IE9 produces (in beta, no less). At release it will undoubtedly be the superior mobile browser on the market.
And oh yeah, Firefox is buggy crap - in any form.