Ever since i started using wp7 i noticed that i have been getting a lot of scamming calls, and these people know my name, an idea of which borough i live 'my location' and they check ur FB using ur name and guess ur age group and direct a call to you accordingly.
US residents, NY residents, be careful. I just searched my number on this WP7 app called 'number guru' and damn, my full first and last name showed up.. for my blackberry friends, nothing.. total privacy... no names.. just a 'wireless user'..
i think the damage has already been done.. my name and number is out their for all these scammers to lynch on.. i just have to be careful now about the calls i recieve.. last week i recieved a call from someone pretending to bank of america and they started with 'Hi am i speaking to 'MY FULL NAME'" and i was like this must be legit... than i got call from someone pretending to be a university.. one more stating i signed up for working from home and start a business .. atleast now i know that my number, my name and my location is out there and anyone can buy it..
i have been using same number for last three years and never got such calls before.. but in last two months i get one such call every 2nd week..
Edit: BTW i am dead sure its from WP7 because once i confronted the lady pretending to be a university offering me admission if i answered some of her 'personal questions' first.. i asked her is she really know me or is just calling a random number..? and she said : 'oh i know you, your name is this, you live here, and your email is '[email protected]' ... which i never use for anything else other than my wp.
Purple11 said:
Ever since i started using wp7 i noticed that i have been getting a lot of scamming calls, and these people know my name, an idea of which borough i live 'my location' and they check ur FB using ur name and guess ur age group and direct a call to you accordingly.
US residents, NY residents, be careful. I just searched my number on this WP7 app called 'number guru' and damn, my full first and last name showed up.. for my blackberry friends, nothing.. total privacy... no names.. just a 'wireless user'..
i think the damage has already been done.. my name and number is out their for all these scammers to lynch on.. i just have to be careful now about the calls i recieve.. last week i recieved a call from someone pretending to bank of america and they started with 'Hi am i speaking to 'MY FULL NAME'" and i was like this must be legit... than i got call from someone pretending to be a university.. one more stating i signed up for working from home and start a business .. atleast now i know that my number, my name and my location is out there and anyone can buy it..
i have been using same number for last three years and never got such calls before.. but in last two months i get one such call every 2nd week..
Edit: BTW i am dead sure its from WP7 because once i confronted the lady pretending to be a university offering me admission if i answered some of her 'personal questions' first.. i asked her is she really know me or is just calling a random number..? and she said : 'oh i know you, your name is this, you live here, and your email is '[email protected]' ... which i never use for anything else other than my wp.
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Maybe its the first windows phone virus, that would be cool.
I remember when people said Linux and apple is weren't more secure, they just weren't targeted by virus writers because there was no value in hacking such a small number of computers using it....but now with ISO and android, I don't hear that anymore...hmmm
Anyway, have you nailed down the application that is leaking information yet?
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Maybe its the first windows phone virus, that would be cool.
I remember when people said Linux and apple is weren't more secure, they just weren't targeted by virus writers because there was no value in hacking such a small number of computers using it....but now with ISO and android, I don't hear that anymore...hmmm
Anyway, have you nailed down the application that is leaking information yet?
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Its not any virus or any malicious program.. its people.. i have downloaded 100 apps and games.. and everyone asks for owner's identity, location.. they just save it in their database, pile it up and sell it to marketeers...
these guys calling me all know just three things about me: my name, my neighborhood and my live id.. they dont know my card details which i use to pay for apps.. neither my exact address (like zip code, or street name) ..
i ran a few iphone numbers of friends i know who use it.. and all their names show up in 'number guru' app.. i dont know anyone with android.. but none of the blackberries numbers have their names flashed for world to see like this.. i thought one's cell number is one of most private thing to have.. next to full residential address.. how can they publish it with my name like that.. its not fair.
You do know that cell phone numbers were all public until a couple of years ago, and you had to opt for them to be private. Many people still have theirs listed as public and don't even know it. It may just be a coincidence... I looked up my number, still private... And I install every single app just to check them out, especially ones spoken about here
Sorry, but there is no systemic "WP7 privacy violation" going on. I have installed many apps that use location and even owner identity (probably more than most people in this forum), but Number Guru has me listed as an anonymous user. My wife, who uses a Blackberry, and has essentially no 3rd party apps installed (other than official ones, like Facebook), shows up in Number Guru by name.
Oh, and I still get lots of spam calls. Most of them are coming from criminals who have gotten copies of the US Do Not Call list, and are using it to spam people. There are forums popping up all over the net to talk about this problem.
Than how come they have my Live ID listed as my email id? That email i just created only for phone and have not used even once anywhere.
I don't know. But you missed my point. Sure, there may be an unscrupulous app developer out there who is harvesting personal information and selling it, but that is no different from any other possible environment where you might either intentionally or accidentally provide personal information.
My point is that there is nothing specific to WP7 that makes this any worse than anywhere else in our lives. My ID is still private on Number Guru, despite the fact that I have installed well over 500 apps over the 10 months that I've owned my phone (most have obviously been uninstalled later), many of which asked for owner identity permission. By contrast, my wife, who has never owned a WP7 device, is not private.
Vote for suggestion that, call and SMS filtering should be provided inbuilt in Windows Phone 7 as it is necessary feature.
Kindly vote here.
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Than how come they have my Live ID listed as my email id? That email i just created only for phone and have not used even once anywhere.
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Have you maybe signed up to any website using this email?
As far as I know apps can't even see your Windows Live ID.
The only thing I could imagine is that an app promted you to send an email and you sent this email using the Windows Live ID you created.
I don't really get any calls of this sort that often. so fail on blaming wp7 as the cause.
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Have you maybe signed up to any website using this email?
As far as I know apps can't even see your Windows Live ID.
The only thing I could imagine is that an app promted you to send an email and you sent this email using the Windows Live ID you created.
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I have never sent any email using my live.com email to anyone.. my sent folder is empty.. I only created and used it to sign into my brand new wp7... thats it..
i also get a lot of nigeria type scam emails on this mail account, even though i absolutely never used it anywhere to register or to send any feedback .. nothing.. but thats not important for me.. i just dont like the phone calls which come with a good degree of accurate info about me ever since i started using wp7.. i have been using this phone number for last 3 yrs.. but these calls started coming after two-three months of wp7.
here are some numbers i get call from:
866-901-9856
213-725-5387
602-602-6000
877-759-4409
Several other 800 numbers..
I just want to warn everyone.. thats it.. wp7 has started these calls, i know it for fact.. many iphone users have complained about the same on number guru..
Edit: i think developers can see your live id once you review their application.. i am not sure about it.
I am pretty sure that you have a spy app install (or had one at some point) that sent your email, phone number, location, etc. back to the app's author who then resell this info to other people.
This type of apps are a huge problem on Android and to some degree on iOS.
So my suggestion is that when you install apps and you get a prompt that the app is accessing your location, phone number, etc., don't just click "allow" "allow" "allow".
Also, make sure to reset your password just in case your Windows Live got hacked.
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Edit: i think developers can see your live id once you review their application.. i am not sure about it.
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No they cant
hi guy's..
just wondering. it's happen to friens of mine. He receive call from his own number. But then end of phone number with additional "0000".
It was malaysian phone number. exp: +6019 xxxx xxx 0000.. anyone knows about this?
Thank anyway..
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I'm a Sprint employee and I have a customer who's kids set a lock code that they forgot and she doesn't know her gmail password AND she wasn't able to retrieve her password. Besides resetting the phone and making a new gmail, is there any way to get back into the phone??
Nope. I have yet to find where in /data the password is stored, and none of the devs I've talked to know, either. Your only choice is to wipe the phone.
Is the phone rooted (slim chance, I suspect)? If so, would restoring a nand backup work? Just thinking out loud......
Try reseting the Google password online.
https://www.google.com/accounts/recovery
She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
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She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
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Well if she ever manages to remember the password or answer to her security question she'll get her contacts back. Tell her to take some more vitamin B, helps with memory lol.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
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tell her to buy an iphone... stupid people everywhere love em
I would prefer that this question remain unanswered. I'm not calling the OP a criminal, but this is exactly what I would do if I just stole a phone that was locked.
I don't want the ability to defeat the security of my phone to be easily accessible.
If someone is stupid enough to forget thier gmail password, the answer to their security question, and allow their kids to set a lock should not be using a smart phone. Just reset her phone and she can start over.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
I'm a Sprint employee and I have a customer who's kids set a lock code that they forgot and she doesn't know her gmail password AND she wasn't able to retrieve her password. Besides resetting the phone and making a new gmail, is there any way to get back into the phone??
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Sounds like complete bull**** to me............I'm just sayin'
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Sounds like complete bull**** to me............I'm just sayin'
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I agree, calling bull**** on this as well & I'm pretty sure consulting xda isn't part of sprints trouble shooting protocal...heh, even if this forum is way more helpful then sprint...
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I agree, calling bull**** on this as well & I'm pretty sure consulting xda isn't part of sprints trouble shooting protocal...heh, even if this forum is way more helpful then sprint...
Sent from my phone.
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Just wanted to interject here, and say we get at least 1 or 2 customers a week who this happens to. They'll get their phone in a store where the rep sets their Gmail up for them, or they're rushed through the process in store, and forget the info.
Our internal support system doesn't get into EVERY SINGLE THING that can happen, or will give "official" solutions to things. I have OFTEN referred to third party sites to fix issues, so I don't doubt this guy for a second.
edit: This is all from within a retail store, as a rep or in-store technician, I'm not sure if phone tech support would refer to a site such as this, but in the store we exhaust every resource we can.
Found a flaw in my evos security. Maybe is just mine or froyo. My patern security lock opens with any patern I input right after a boot or battery pull. This happens with every custom froyo rom I try. I tried fresh, cyanogen, omj, and damagecontrol. Sometimes it dosnt do it but if I do a fast random swipe of any pattern it opens. I'm in the process of making a video.......help fear for my security!
Found flaw. Titanium backup. The app is great and all and I love it. The problem is that titanium backs up my patern and I guess thers a certain flaw or conflicts when the backup and the original security interact. I fix this by making a new pattern or re entering the patern. But is alot less troubling by just not backing up HTC screen lock
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when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
i work with a guy that has a hero and was drunk playing with phone and set a lock pattern. he doesn't know his gmail password either and had to go to sprint store and have it reset. lost contacts.
I say that you buy a google phone, you should be a google customer with an account. to be so stupid you forget your password is just lame. to buy a device for cool factor and not know how to use it is stupid. there should be a smart test required before someone is allowed to purchase a smartphone.
OP, make your customers download lookout from market. it saves contacts, and make them use an email they already use on daily basis and have the password the same as the password for their sprint account. then if they forget password, it is same as their account with same email provided with account.
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when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
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I know, and everyone in my store knows there's no way around it... we don't post to forums asking, but we do read forums for info... but I've used forums to solve several issues on phones that probably goes against policies, like using JL Commander on Blackberries, installing .cab files on WinMo phones to fix small registry issues, etc. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to make the customer happy... but no, I nor anyone I've worked with have POSTED, just read.
if you are rooted there is a way around the pattern unlock screen. Hell it might work if you're not rooted.
Code:
adb -d shell
# sqlite3 data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
sqlite> update system set value=0 where name='lock_pattern_autolock';
sqlite> .exit
# exit
reboot and tada
At least this works on the hero. It removes the pattern lockscreen
Alanmw86 said:
when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
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If there was a way to agree more, I would. I work in retail/wholesale and people amaze me every day at how stupid they are. I work at a tire store that shares a building with a collision shop. I can't tell you how many people have walked in and asked for an estimate on collision repair. I mean seriously, we've got frickin tires EVERYWHERE!
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So one nite i was drunk, got out of truck (not driving) and went to bed. Next AM at hotel i couldn't find phone. Because i am smart enough to remember my gmail password (been using it for years) first thing i did was go online and change my password. Phone could no longer sync and gave me a minor sense of security. Found phone in a co-workers hotel room later that nite. I then changed my password back.
For those that wouldn't do the same when they lost or had their phone stollen, you just presented a way for the person that has it access to their device.
Simple..... you forgot your lock pattern or pin (like you need a phone like this then) if you also forgot your email and password, then start over and lesson learned. But to provide this kind of info for a theif or not so honest person access to a phone that doesn't belong to them is just wrong.
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if you are rooted there is a way around the pattern unlock screen. Hell it might work if you're not rooted.
Code:
adb -d shell
# sqlite3 data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
sqlite> update system set value=0 where name='lock_pattern_autolock';
sqlite> .exit
# exit
reboot and tada
At least this works on the hero. It removes the pattern lockscreen
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Just guessing...since you are working with /data, you would not need root. Or at least not nand unlocked. I don't believe data is a protected directory.
Nice trick BTW...
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jpwhre said:
So one nite i was drunk, got out of truck (not driving) and went to bed. Next AM at hotel i couldn't find phone. Because i am smart enough to remember my gmail password (been using it for years) first thing i did was go online and change my password. Phone could no longer sync and gave me a minor sense of security. Found phone in a co-workers hotel room later that nite. I then changed my password back.
For those that wouldn't do the same when they lost or had their phone stollen, you just presented a way for the person that has it access to their device.
Simple..... you forgot your lock pattern or pin (like you need a phone like this then) if you also forgot your email and password, then start over and lesson learned. But to provide this kind of info for a theif or not so honest person access to a phone that doesn't belong to them is just wrong.
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The thing is that this information can be found by anyone or you could do a master reset and would still be able to use the phone. I just put this up there because people were saying there was no way to get around this stuff and there are. In no way do I condone using this info for illegal or dishonest use.
Unluckly my phone was stolen about a week ago. Ignorant thieves didn't change my google account so when I go to android market I can see they're using it and that they changed the sim (I can see which operator they have).
I also blocked the imei but it doesn't seem to have worked because I can see they are still using it. My question is: is there any way to know the phone number of the sim? I could try to track them if it could be possible or it's just the operator? I sooo want my phone back! (even if now I've got a galaxy sl).
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Unluckly my phone was stolen about a week ago. Ignorant thieves didn't change my google account so when I go to android market I can see they're using it and that they changed the sim (I can see which operator they have).
I also blocked the imei but it doesn't seem to have worked because I can see they are still using it. My question is: is there any way to know the phone number of the sim? I could try to track them if it could be possible or it's just the operator? I sooo want my phone back! (even if now I've got a galaxy sl).
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Did you install Wavesecure or lookout? If so, they let you track the phone etc...
If you use 2-factor gmail login, you can disable the one-time password that your google account uses.
But without Wavesecure or equivalent, you can't really track the number, unless your network can (and most won't do it, citing "data protection" even when you own the phone).
Stupid laws like this mean technical precautions are best. WaveSecure and other such apps can even GPS locate the phone
Sucks man, I feel for ya... Wishing you the best in your search for these idiots. Give them a firm beating.
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Sucks man, I feel for ya... Wishing you the best in your search for these idiots. Give them a firm beating.
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While I couldn't condone that, having a GPS position of your device does have many uses, including directing the relevant law enforcement personnel to them, or indeed anyone else who happened to be in possession of the GPL location
I strongly recommend everyone uses some form of tracking app on their phone. There's free and open source ones available...
Well, if they're still using the phone and it's still connected to your Google account, then you can go to the marketplace from your computer, install Lookout on it, and attempt to track it down, lock it, or wipe it. It's worth a shot.
After that, change your google password. It really sucks though that the Market doesn't have an easy way for you to remove a device from your account though. I had my EVO stolen last week, and I looked for hours trying to figure out a way to separate it from my account with no success.
oh oh?
sorry dude very bad for you. change your password from gmail and save the contacts
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Well, if they're still using the phone and it's still connected to your Google account, then you can go to the marketplace from your computer, install Lookout on it, and attempt to track it down, lock it, or wipe it. It's worth a shot.
After that, change your google password. It really sucks though that the Market doesn't have an easy way for you to remove a device from your account though. I had my EVO stolen last week, and I looked for hours trying to figure out a way to separate it from my account with no success.
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Ooh smart I forgot about that. Lookout won't do that unfortunately, as you need to set up an account of sorts...
/me wishes you could VNC into your droid phone via google's cloud to phone system, thus negating the issue of NAT.
I wonder... there MUST be an app that allows you to install an app to the phone, that somehow conveys location to you, without entering info on the device...
If not, perhaps we need to work out a way? The issue is how to tell it who to email... Or...
/me sees an idea emerging...
How about an app allowing you to locate phone AFTER it was stolen, without needing to set anything up?
There is!
It's called Plan B (I can't post the link because I'm too noob on this forum, just search the market)
but the market won't let me install it on any phone, I don't know why
my phone wasent stolen but i always thought if it was that they could just use my card info that is stored and buy any apps they wanted my mom uses my captivate now and for the love of god i cant fig out how to take my info out and replace it with hers when i go to add account it still want let hers add any suggestions
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Unluckly my phone was stolen about a week ago. Ignorant thieves didn't change my google account so when I go to android market I can see they're using it and that they changed the sim (I can see which operator they have).
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Where can I read on the market which operator is being used on my stolen phone?
I'm asking this because after the Sony/SOE hacking (which I am somewhat affected by), it's got me thinking.
There are some online services that I've been trying to remove myself form (since before that happened), and companies make it virtually impossible in some cases to get themselves removed from these services.
The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked" and there is no way to remove all of your posts from the site.
Twitter makes this easy... Foursquare makes this easy. Loopt makes this easy...
But it seems companies that are big into Advertising make it as hard as possible for you to decouple yourself form them.
Slacker and Pandora have no such option to remove yourself from those sites after you create your account (and it's impossible to purge your personal information from them unless yo go through hoops and bounds to do so). Contrarily, Last.FM makes it as easy as a button click and some confirmations.
Yahoo! and Google make it easy to delete accounts, but Windows Live basically leaves the account sitting there for something like 4-6 months before it's deleted...
Provided there are decent confirmations, I think any online services should allow any user who willingly signed up for it to willingly walk away from it, and take their personal data and information with them. It seems like a huge power grab by the industry to lock users into them and own our information...
I've already written my Congressman and Senator following an issue with AOL where it took literally weeks of constant phones calls for them to delete my old accounts that I haven't used in forever. Finally they agreed to "waive" the "we don't delete accounts" rule because I was in the military for years following the account creation and they had it on record since I canceled my AOL service that I was doing so because I was being deployed back then...
What do people think. Do you think it's cool that companies expect to own our information after we sign up for their services and make it extremely difficult if not outright impossible to decouple ourselves from them?
Or do you want to be denied a job (or admissions into a university) because you posted something tasteless or inflamatory on facebook one night? (yes, universitiy admissions are starting to check social networks)?
For the past 3 months or so I've been trying to close down all these unneeded services that I have subscribed to in the past, and have been met with several brick walls.
It's even impossible to delete accounts on forums these days, which is uber laughable as well...
I'm thinking about quitting facebook, but getting all my stuff off of there is looking like an impossible task...
EDIT: Pandora finally got around to deleting my account... But I did send them like 5 emails today before they got around to it at 10:50 PM (first contacted them like 2 months ago).
I agree with you that all services you willingly sign up for should be as easy to leave as they were to join, it makes sense.
I'm on Facebook, several tech forums, I use several cloud based services (mail etc.) and I try not to post too many things that would make me look bad.
Facebook has by far been the most problematic to get off, you can deactivate your account but not really remove it.
/J
that's a funny question. It's not ha ha funny but it's funny to jump through those hoops. As far as information shared, on social networking, I know its vitally important to keep professionalism especially in clinical psychology. Personally, if my posts aren't related to tech or anime, I don't post it on social networking. I call a person, I write an angry email or something, but rarely do I kvetch on a social networking platform. Because it's a bad idea...
I mean I have opened a second fb account and surprisingly my first FB is still open. It doesn't bother me because it is "dead" for all intents and purposes. Honestly I just really don't mind it personally, but again that's just me. I'm not the type to post inflammatory material. I guess its different strokes.
However, I do agree, it should be easy to delete your own account. But I have to correct you on yahoo specifically. You can recover the account if its deleted. It's rather easy and I've done it multiple times. I think after a year (for yahoo specifically) then its gone. But otherwise, nope it's still there.
Yahoo! gave me an instant way to delete my account hte last time I did it. It was instant, with no recovery. I checked immediately afterwards when I did it and there was no way to recover the account. Perhaps that is a new development.
Both Yahoo! and Google allow you instant account deletion (or did, IRT the former). Microsoft keeps the accounts for something like 120 days (used to be 45, then 60, etc.) and AOL seemingly keeps them forever because the account I had to go through the run-around to delete hadn't been used for years (almost a decade), but had a ton of personal information on it that I couldn't change because I didn't remember an old secret answer so I couldn't even log in to get it off there (I used to have AOL internet access).
I went back and deleted almost all of my posts on Facebook. It took over 6 hours because you have to personally track down every comment you've made on the site (including those on walls of people no longer on your friend's list). This is intentionally convoluded compared to Twitter, where all of your tweets and retweets are there in a list and it took like 5 minutes to delete them...
As much as I despise Facebook's practice of making accounts hard to delete I've been wondering for a while if it is a result of a fragile database structure they are using. N8ter 's description of having to manually remove comments all over the place makes me wonder if Facebook's database structure has some sort of vulnerability to having data scattered in so many places removed.
Granted, it's prolly more likely they make it difficult because they can.
What do you mean, "you people"?
Nice one
Suppose I.walked right into that
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So... let me get this straight,
You signed on to privately owned websites, handed over private information/made incriminating posts (in any capacity)... and now you're complaining about it?
In boardroom meetings in those companies, people like you are punchlines.
Nothing on the internet is private. Let me repeat that; nothing on the internet is private.
Learn it, know it, love it.
I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked"
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I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830
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I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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honestly, I know what you mean. Its very annoying and frustrating. But just take it all as a lesson that these are all private companies. Neither you or I have any right to an expectation of privacy. Its a hard truth to face. My Facebook profile is as dry as a bone. I never post or submit any info I wouldn't be comfortable with the whole world knowing.
Until there is a government-run social networking platform, just understand that.
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I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830
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No. That's only to download your pictures, videos, and stuff like that if you want a hard copy or to put it on another social network/profile.
For example, if you want to put all your facebook stuff on your Windows Live Profile, but they don't exist on your computer/smartphone anymore...
Also, that won't remove the ridiculous amount of manual labor involved in tracking down every comment/wall post and deleting them one by one...
All that information is trivially seen by clicking on "Profile" at the Facebook homepage. It shows all your activity. But you should be able to remove it by clicking on the X. Right now, you have to go to every page, track that comment down (sometimes in a sea of 1k+ comments), and manually delete it. Some of those comment feeds are so damn large, that they can crash some users' browsers or slow them to a crawl.
[Q] Have you ever heard of mystery texts from 9329 saying "Your validation code is: "
I was really creeped out by this today.
Normally when you get a text saying "Your validation code is: [followed by some 8 digit code] " it's because *you* asked for it.
And if you *didn't* ask for it, you could be justifiably concerned that someone else *did* try to authenticate using your credentials somewhere.
Usually this is a harmless random occurrence, but in my case today I got three of these in a row immediately after the phone recovered from a mysterious freeze.
Today I had been downloading some unfamiliar apps ("VPN Connections", VPNC widget, and 2X (remote desktop) Client after which the phone did something I haven't seen before: I was running the maps application when it froze, stayed frozen, and after trying everything possible, I just held down the power key for like 20 seconds after which the blue skateboard CM7 boot animation appeared immediately (bypassing the usual white HTC EVO 4G screen) and the OS reloaded in just a few seconds.
Admittedly this fast boot behavior could be normal for all I know, but combined with the rest of it seems really odd and I feel paranoid.
What could I have been doing lately that might trigger this particular sequence of mystery freeze followed by mystery text?
Has anyone personally experienced anything similar?
bump - I did search google for any reports of similar experiences and got nothing which is why I thought I might ask around here..
I called Sprint. They could not tell me anything about these text messages or any text messages in fact. They said they have access to call detail but not text details. Basically unless law enforcement gets involved you can't talk to the super *duper* part of Sprint support that can retrieve information on texts. Seems a little lame not to be able to talk to customers about what is going on on their own network, but there it is.
Anyway while I was researching all this I checked my account online and while reviewing my bill I discovered a (presumably older and unrelated) mystery charge for $9.99 from
Mobile Love: Alerts - 34095 MBLLOVE
If you google this scam you will find many people receive three text messages in a row (in this case from 34095) and then discover the charge on their bill later on. Supposedly if you text "STOP" back to that number you don't get charged but it's a total scam either way. It's possible I got a text from 34095 at some point and just disregarded it. I can't remember honestly. Anyways Sprint removed the charge for me.
They also said, going forward, if any charges appear as a result of the 9329 texts (see OP) I could always call back and have them removed later. Otherwise there will not be any record of these texts or any way to find out more about them. Ever.
I'm not really as worried about getting *charged* for something as somebody untraceably signing up for some *access* to something in my name. Oh well. No point in worrying about something you can't control I guess.
Wow that's bizarre dude.
Are you sure you weren't looking for love in all the wrong places?
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KB112 said:
Are you sure you weren't looking for love in all the wrong places?
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Zing!
Sent from space
My guess is that you installed an app that had permission to modify your SMS Text Messages and Use Services That Cost You Money. Alternately, if any of the apps required root access that is the same thing.
What happens is this: the app uses it's permissions to send a SMS text to a short code and then delete the text. That way you cannot directly see that "you" signed up for a premium text service. You need to be very careful to look at permissions before installing apps of questionable origin... even if they are on the official android market... even if they do not require root.
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I was really creeped out by this today.
Normally when you get a text saying "Your validation code is: [followed by some 8 digit code] " it's because *you* asked for it.
And if you *didn't* ask for it, you could be justifiably concerned that someone else *did* try to authenticate using your credentials somewhere.
Usually this is a harmless random occurrence, but in my case today I got three of these in a row immediately after the phone recovered from a mysterious freeze.
Today I had been downloading some unfamiliar apps ("VPN Connections", VPNC widget, and 2X (remote desktop) Client after which the phone did something I haven't seen before: I was running the maps application when it froze, stayed frozen, and after trying everything possible, I just held down the power key for like 20 seconds after which the blue skateboard CM7 boot animation appeared immediately (bypassing the usual white HTC EVO 4G screen) and the OS reloaded in just a few seconds.
Admittedly this fast boot behavior could be normal for all I know, but combined with the rest of it seems really odd and I feel paranoid.
What could I have been doing lately that might trigger this particular sequence of mystery freeze followed by mystery text?
Has anyone personally experienced anything similar?
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I think the Sprint Visual Voicemail app uses a validation code
The other day I was in my Sprint.com account and found 2 9.99 charges on 2 of my lines for some text thing also. I called Sprint and told them I don't know where they came from. Sprint took the charges off. I asked them if there was anything I could do about it because this wasn't the first time it had happened. The lady said I can block all 3rd party text so you don't get spam text and extra charges. It didn't effect anything else. I had them do it and everything works flawlessly. It doesn't cost a dime for them to do it.
Typical SMS scam, the really messed up part is that the carrier takes a cut in exchange for looking the other way and acting like they don't know whats going on..... essentially, by NOT responding to these messages you signed up for their service. Thankfully, these have never shown up on my bill, but if they did I wouldn't call sprint....Ill call my lawyer instead.
This video explains everything....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MQAfh-bCE&feature=youtu.be
One of my co-workers got one of these messages like a year ago, he has paid it every month because he never looks at his bill but just pays it regardless of the amount. On the flipside, people make fun of me sometimes for taking my good-ol' paper check down to the bank and not having my bills automatically pay themselves....
EDIT: Im astounded at the claim made by the poster above me, where sprint was actually willing to do something about it...I deal with a lot of cell phones and I have never seen an instance where a carrier took proactive action without hassle...they always pull the "duhhhhhhhhhhhh...we don't know whats going on so were going to transfer you around until you get frustrated and give up/hang up".
starnostar said:
Typical SMS scam, the really messed up part is that the carrier takes a cut in exchange for looking the other way and acting like they don't know whats going on..... essentially, by NOT responding to these messages you signed up for their service. Thankfully, these have never shown up on my bill, but if they did I wouldn't call sprint....Ill call my lawyer instead.
This video explains everything....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9MQAfh-bCE&feature=youtu.be
One of my co-workers got one of these messages like a year ago, he has paid it every month because he never looks at his bill but just pays it regardless of the amount. On the flipside, people make fun of me sometimes for taking my good-ol' paper check down to the bank and not having my bills automatically pay themselves....
EDIT: Im astounded at the claim made by the poster above me, where sprint was actually willing to do something about it...I deal with a lot of cell phones and I have never seen an instance where a carrier took proactive action without hassle...they always pull the "duhhhhhhhhhhhh...we don't know whats going on so were going to transfer you around until you get frustrated and give up/hang up".
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It wasn't a claim. They did it. I told her what was up and she got her supervisor on the phone and they did it. I'm sorry if you think things can't be done with a good attitude and the right words.
I wanted to ask for some clarification on this actually: you said they happily took action to block "all 3rd party texts". Does that mean you have effectively disabled SMS completely?
I mean I do want to receive real texts from warm bodies. Do they have some way of detecting and blocking texts from short codes?
Does this break other notifications (eg visual voicemail or alerts from sprint letting you know about new services or when your bill is ready for viewing)?
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I wanted to ask for some clarification on this actually: you said they happily took action to block "all 3rd party texts". Does that mean you have effectively disabled SMS completely?
I mean I do want to receive real texts from warm bodies. Do they have some way of detecting and blocking texts from short codes?
Does this break other notifications (eg visual voicemail or alerts from sprint letting you know about new services or when your bill is ready for viewing)?
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The other services you are referring to are Sprint services. This blocks 3rd party. Meaning outside spam text as we call them. It does not disable SMS at all. It just blocks outside spam text and things that cost you extra charges from happening.
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It wasn't a claim. They did it. I told her what was up and she got her supervisor on the phone and they did it. I'm sorry if you think things can't be done with a good attitude and the right words.
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I didn't use the term "claim" to be rude, just out of personal philosophy that this is the internet and everything is to be taken with a grain of salt, this is compounded by my experiences with carriers and their knowledge and/or willingness to take care of the issue.
I have personally never had to call sprint for this issue for myself or anyone else, 99% of the time I have to deal with this issue, its with at&t or cricket, only one on verizon and this was a while ago.
Did you get this app off the market ? There suppose to scan stuff before it goes up to keep that from happening . If you got it off the net then that's how it happens .
Did you get this app off the market ? There suppose to scan stuff before it goes up to keep that from happening . If you got it off the net then that's how it happens .
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I was doing a lot of things to the phone that day. Also, just to review, the phone "crashed" (did some kind of fast boot) while using maps, and then immediately after the OS came back up, I got the three text messages telling me what my "valdiation code" was.
Amongst other activities I had been doing that day, I installed 3 apps:
VPN Connections (not downloaded from market, yes downloaded from the net)
2x Client for RDP / Remote Desktop
VPNC Widget
At the time of the crash I had already uninstalled the first one after I discovered the last one worked better for me.
None of these look like they require unusual permissions (like "Use Services That Cost You Money") that illogos mentioned above.
I actually still have the download of "VPN Connections" on my SDCard. I double clicked the apk again just to see what permissions it required, and it just said "Storage (modify/delete SD card contents)" and "Phone Calls (read phone state and identity)". I downloaded it from here, http://code.google.com/p/get-a-robot-vpnc/ , which doesn't look *that* sketchy. However it hasn't been updated since June 2010 and no longer appears in the app market, so clearly it was not going to be my first choice. I did run it, it did work; But, for the reasons above, I quickly replaced it once I found something equally functional that looked like it was better supported.
It is a credit card conformation from a half rate escort service called hoopty booty
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It is a credit card conformation from a half rate escort service called hoopty booty
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You need to get a life dude
Yeah. I wasn't sure, but just in case, I decided not to use hoopty booty anymore.
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CNexus said:
You need to get a life dude
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Something about glass houses......
!!!!Donnie your out of your element!!!!!
Since facebook added the feature to tag friends with you when checking in, my group-walls are acting weird with duplicated posts.
My pal tagged 5 of my friends with him at a checkin and now I see 6 posts of the same checkin from him on the "Whats new page" for that group. Not that sexy. :/
(I have all my homies in one group)
Anyone else noticed this?
I've not experienced this problem... :/
No one else getting this?!
This isnt a bug, its how you receive notifications from your groups in facebook. For example, I got a 'close friends' group on facebook, its around 22 of them in there. Whatever they do (eg. upload photo, update status, or check-in) I receive those notifications in my me tile as well, even though they have their own friends tile separately. You can customize what notifications you get from that group on facebook, or you can turn it off.
So to relate it to your problem, your friends will be tagged and each have their own notifications, which will be then sent to your notifications in your me tile.
Btw most of my friends dont use the check in function in facebook, we rather use foursquare. Much fun-er.
No I dont think you understood the problem.
Lets say I have 4 friends in a group... Bill, Fred, Carl and Rob (im talking about a contact-group that I created on my phone, not a facebook-group).
Bill checks in and tags Fred, Carl and Rob in his checkin.
Now if I look at the "whats new" feed for that group I would expect 4 notifications, 1 from each friend, right?
But I get 4 notifications from Bill, describing the exact same thing.
Bill checked in at Place X
Bill checked in at Place X
Bill checked in at Place X
Bill checked in at Place X
Thats an odd bug. Perhaps try removing your facebook account, restarting phone and readding it just to reset the entire facebook connection. Not sure if that would do anything as it may just be an issue between MS's built in integration and how facebook is populating information.
I've not experienced this so wish I could be more helpful. Maybe try posting on here as well:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...s-thread/d0cba50c-25a2-43da-93f5-b96dd5b870a1
I don't know that I'd call it a bug. The wall of a group is just the aggregation of the wall of everyone in it. If people tagging each other causes it to show up on everyone's wall then, unless they wrote code to handle that, you're probably going to see it multiple times. I think they changed how tagging works in Facebook so I doubt there is any special logic there. I'm sure they will address it in a future release.
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I don't know that I'd call it a bug. The wall of a group is just the aggregation of the wall of everyone in it. If people tagging each other causes it to show up on everyone's wall then, unless they wrote code to handle that, you're probably going to see it multiple times. I think they changed how tagging works in Facebook so I doubt there is any special logic there. I'm sure they will address it in a future release.
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Exactly.
Earlier you couldnt tag people in your checkins, but now you can and its becoming more and more common.
I dont think WP can handle this feature yet, would be nice if someone else could check.
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Posted it on the Windows Phone forums.
It will probably be fixed later on.