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I'm a Sprint employee and I have a customer who's kids set a lock code that they forgot and she doesn't know her gmail password AND she wasn't able to retrieve her password. Besides resetting the phone and making a new gmail, is there any way to get back into the phone??
Nope. I have yet to find where in /data the password is stored, and none of the devs I've talked to know, either. Your only choice is to wipe the phone.
Is the phone rooted (slim chance, I suspect)? If so, would restoring a nand backup work? Just thinking out loud......
Try reseting the Google password online.
https://www.google.com/accounts/recovery
She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
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Well if she ever manages to remember the password or answer to her security question she'll get her contacts back. Tell her to take some more vitamin B, helps with memory lol.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
She tried the gmail password recovery, but she didn't know the answer to her security question even though she bought the phone and made the account 2 weeks ago. Thanks for your help guys. I guess I'll have to reset her phone and she'll lose her contacts.
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tell her to buy an iphone... stupid people everywhere love em
I would prefer that this question remain unanswered. I'm not calling the OP a criminal, but this is exactly what I would do if I just stole a phone that was locked.
I don't want the ability to defeat the security of my phone to be easily accessible.
If someone is stupid enough to forget thier gmail password, the answer to their security question, and allow their kids to set a lock should not be using a smart phone. Just reset her phone and she can start over.
Tazdeviloo7 said:
I'm a Sprint employee and I have a customer who's kids set a lock code that they forgot and she doesn't know her gmail password AND she wasn't able to retrieve her password. Besides resetting the phone and making a new gmail, is there any way to get back into the phone??
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Sounds like complete bull**** to me............I'm just sayin'
pirish1 said:
Sounds like complete bull**** to me............I'm just sayin'
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I agree, calling bull**** on this as well & I'm pretty sure consulting xda isn't part of sprints trouble shooting protocal...heh, even if this forum is way more helpful then sprint...
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maxomus said:
I agree, calling bull**** on this as well & I'm pretty sure consulting xda isn't part of sprints trouble shooting protocal...heh, even if this forum is way more helpful then sprint...
Sent from my phone.
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Just wanted to interject here, and say we get at least 1 or 2 customers a week who this happens to. They'll get their phone in a store where the rep sets their Gmail up for them, or they're rushed through the process in store, and forget the info.
Our internal support system doesn't get into EVERY SINGLE THING that can happen, or will give "official" solutions to things. I have OFTEN referred to third party sites to fix issues, so I don't doubt this guy for a second.
edit: This is all from within a retail store, as a rep or in-store technician, I'm not sure if phone tech support would refer to a site such as this, but in the store we exhaust every resource we can.
Found a flaw in my evos security. Maybe is just mine or froyo. My patern security lock opens with any patern I input right after a boot or battery pull. This happens with every custom froyo rom I try. I tried fresh, cyanogen, omj, and damagecontrol. Sometimes it dosnt do it but if I do a fast random swipe of any pattern it opens. I'm in the process of making a video.......help fear for my security!
Found flaw. Titanium backup. The app is great and all and I love it. The problem is that titanium backs up my patern and I guess thers a certain flaw or conflicts when the backup and the original security interact. I fix this by making a new pattern or re entering the patern. But is alot less troubling by just not backing up HTC screen lock
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when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
i work with a guy that has a hero and was drunk playing with phone and set a lock pattern. he doesn't know his gmail password either and had to go to sprint store and have it reset. lost contacts.
I say that you buy a google phone, you should be a google customer with an account. to be so stupid you forget your password is just lame. to buy a device for cool factor and not know how to use it is stupid. there should be a smart test required before someone is allowed to purchase a smartphone.
OP, make your customers download lookout from market. it saves contacts, and make them use an email they already use on daily basis and have the password the same as the password for their sprint account. then if they forget password, it is same as their account with same email provided with account.
Alanmw86 said:
when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
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I know, and everyone in my store knows there's no way around it... we don't post to forums asking, but we do read forums for info... but I've used forums to solve several issues on phones that probably goes against policies, like using JL Commander on Blackberries, installing .cab files on WinMo phones to fix small registry issues, etc. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to make the customer happy... but no, I nor anyone I've worked with have POSTED, just read.
if you are rooted there is a way around the pattern unlock screen. Hell it might work if you're not rooted.
Code:
adb -d shell
# sqlite3 data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
sqlite> update system set value=0 where name='lock_pattern_autolock';
sqlite> .exit
# exit
reboot and tada
At least this works on the hero. It removes the pattern lockscreen
Alanmw86 said:
when i worked at sprint alot of my stupid arse coworkers would setup gmail for people that didn't have it and not tell the customer...dont ask.... also after working in retail for 5 years lemme tell you something
People are fraggin stupid, not some of them, but like 90%, so when you look at your intelligent friends, look at them with some more respect, cause most people are completely retarded haha.
Anyhow, I can also tell you as an X sprint employee...and probably one of the most empathetic employee's and my store I would never care this much to ask on a forum, so I call BS as well.
Besides come on sprint rep, you should know damn well there aint no way around it, not unless your a super hacker.
lock code, gmail and the security questions, you mean the one like, whats your dogs name? LIES!
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If there was a way to agree more, I would. I work in retail/wholesale and people amaze me every day at how stupid they are. I work at a tire store that shares a building with a collision shop. I can't tell you how many people have walked in and asked for an estimate on collision repair. I mean seriously, we've got frickin tires EVERYWHERE!
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So one nite i was drunk, got out of truck (not driving) and went to bed. Next AM at hotel i couldn't find phone. Because i am smart enough to remember my gmail password (been using it for years) first thing i did was go online and change my password. Phone could no longer sync and gave me a minor sense of security. Found phone in a co-workers hotel room later that nite. I then changed my password back.
For those that wouldn't do the same when they lost or had their phone stollen, you just presented a way for the person that has it access to their device.
Simple..... you forgot your lock pattern or pin (like you need a phone like this then) if you also forgot your email and password, then start over and lesson learned. But to provide this kind of info for a theif or not so honest person access to a phone that doesn't belong to them is just wrong.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
if you are rooted there is a way around the pattern unlock screen. Hell it might work if you're not rooted.
Code:
adb -d shell
# sqlite3 data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
sqlite> update system set value=0 where name='lock_pattern_autolock';
sqlite> .exit
# exit
reboot and tada
At least this works on the hero. It removes the pattern lockscreen
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Just guessing...since you are working with /data, you would not need root. Or at least not nand unlocked. I don't believe data is a protected directory.
Nice trick BTW...
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jpwhre said:
So one nite i was drunk, got out of truck (not driving) and went to bed. Next AM at hotel i couldn't find phone. Because i am smart enough to remember my gmail password (been using it for years) first thing i did was go online and change my password. Phone could no longer sync and gave me a minor sense of security. Found phone in a co-workers hotel room later that nite. I then changed my password back.
For those that wouldn't do the same when they lost or had their phone stollen, you just presented a way for the person that has it access to their device.
Simple..... you forgot your lock pattern or pin (like you need a phone like this then) if you also forgot your email and password, then start over and lesson learned. But to provide this kind of info for a theif or not so honest person access to a phone that doesn't belong to them is just wrong.
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The thing is that this information can be found by anyone or you could do a master reset and would still be able to use the phone. I just put this up there because people were saying there was no way to get around this stuff and there are. In no way do I condone using this info for illegal or dishonest use.
This has been asked in a few different forums but I was hoping someone with some developing/coding knowledge may be able to help..
Is it possible to change the gmail account associated with the market on a phone WITHOUT doing a factory reset?
Hoping someone with knowledge of the OS may have a little more insight!
Looks like the 1st account you set up cannot be removed without a reset, at least from what I've tried.
Even if you add a second Gmail account, you can remove the 2nd one, but not the 1st or primary account.
I know that, I was thinking perhaps there is a file somewhere buried on the phone that contains this info that can be edited and pushed back onto the phone after you edit it, if you have root
you can not change the email w/o a factory reset.
doing that will let you change the email associated with the market/phone
(primary email account), but you will loose
all purchased market apps, there is currently no way to do that.
Google knows this is the case.....unless its changed when i checked 2 weeks ago
buenos said:
you can not change the email w/o a factory reset.
doing that will let you change the email associated with the market/phone
(primary email account), but you will loose
all purchased market apps, there is currently no way to do that.
Google knows this is the case.....unless its changed when i checked 2 weeks ago
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Like I said, I know thats the standard answer, but the gmail account has to be stored in a file somewhere on the device, I thought maybe a dev knew where it was and/or how to edit/changes it without resetting....
DroidHam said:
Like I said, I know thats the standard answer, but the gmail account has to be stored in a file somewhere on the device, I thought maybe a dev knew where it was and/or how to edit/changes it without resetting....
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Not necessarily. Could be stored in the cloud and linked to your device ID. Don't know for sure, but it's possible.
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PonsAsinorem said:
Not necessarily. Could be stored in the cloud and linked to your device ID. Don't know for sure, but it's possible.
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Maybe, that's why I asked =)
Apps are tied to your account, not your device.
I don't believe there is a way to transfer account details between email address. This is something that would reside on google's end, not on your phone.
JCopernicus said:
Apps are tied to your account, not your device.
I don't believe there is a way to transfer account details between email address. This is something that would reside on google's end, not on your phone.
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I dont believe this is at all what the OP was asking, he just wants to change his primary gmail account linked to his android without doing a wipe. i dont recall him asking about any "apps" other than the market itself
as far i know, this is not posible. i would recomend using an app like titanium backup to backup all your programs and then do a reset, and restore the apps.
good luck, i hope you find the answer your looking for
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Is it possible to change the gmail account associated with the market on a phone WITHOUT doing a factory reset?
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Why do you want to do this? If we know that, we might be able to offer an alternate solution.
larsrya8 said:
Why do you want to do this? If we know that, we might be able to offer an alternate solution.
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Some people use more than one gmail account, if you enter the wrong one in the setup process you are stuck unless you do a factory reset. I think that's why he's asking.
Teksu said:
I dont believe this is at all what the OP was asking, he just wants to change his primary gmail account linked to his android without doing a wipe. i dont recall him asking about any "apps" other than the market itself
as far i know, this is not posible. i would recomend using an app like titanium backup to backup all your programs and then do a reset, and restore the apps.
good luck, i hope you find the answer your looking for
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Uh...what do you think the link between the market and the gmail account is for?
"his gmail account linked to his android"?
You gmail account isn't linked to any physical device.
Carnage9270 said:
Some people use more than one gmail account, if you enter the wrong one in the setup process you are stuck unless you do a factory reset. I think that's why he's asking.
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If you accidentally entered the wrong info during setup, just wipe and start over right away (it's not like you're going to lose anything).
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If you accidentally entered the wrong info during setup, just wipe and start over right away (it's not like you're going to lose anything).
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Some people don't realize this until they are into the setup a ways. It's a reasonable question, just don't think there is anyone out there that knows where that info would be. It has to be stored on the phone or a factory reset wouldn't fix it. Although i think this might be in the wrong forum
Carnage9270 said:
Some people don't realize this until they are into the setup a ways. It's a reasonable question, just don't think there is anyone out there that knows where that info would be. It has to be stored on the phone or a factory reset wouldn't fix it. Although i think this might be in the wrong forum
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Possibly, but I thought if ANYONE would know where it's stored it would be one of these devs who have gone through the whole filesystem... maybe one of them could jump in?!?
DroidHam said:
Possibly, but I thought if ANYONE would know where it's stored it would be one of these devs who have gone through the whole filesystem... maybe one of them could jump in?!?
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It's on the device, but probably encrypted. Why do you want to find it so badly?
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Uh...what do you think the link between the market and the gmail account is for?
"his gmail account linked to his android"?
You gmail account isn't linked to any physical device.
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thats odd, i seem to have issues when trying to login to one gmail account from multiple android devices. after it is synced with one device, and i add it to another, the first device will not sync...
I know any paid apps are linked to the gmail account used to purchase them. Nowhere has the OP said anything about apps, paid or otherwise. The question was simple;
Can I change my primary gmail address my phone is syncing with, and do it without doing a factory reset?
now others have for some reason been compelled to start telling the OP what he can and cant do with apps linked to the gmail account
thats like going to a mechanic and asking him what the sound your breaks are making means, and the mechanic saying "well if you drive into something your airbags are gonna go off"
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now others have for some reason been compelled to start telling the OP what he can and cant do with apps linked to the gmail account
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The OP won't tell us why this is so important. Backing everything up with Titanium Backup, wiping, setting up with the correct account, and then restoring would have taken less time than this thread has existed.
The only explanation I can think of is that the OP is trying to keep paid apps from the current account. There's no other reason to be going through all this hassle.
Following from this (completely reasonable) assumption, people feel compelled to inform the OP that this won't work, since the paid apps will be tied to the previous account. Google's new licensing system is going to make this even more difficult.
Teksu said:
thats odd, i seem to have issues when trying to login to one gmail account from multiple android devices. after it is synced with one device, and i add it to another, the first device will not sync...
I know any paid apps are linked to the gmail account used to purchase them. Nowhere has the OP said anything about apps, paid or otherwise. The question was simple;
Can I change my primary gmail address my phone is syncing with, and do it without doing a factory reset?
now others have for some reason been compelled to start telling the OP what he can and cant do with apps linked to the gmail account
thats like going to a mechanic and asking him what the sound your breaks are making means, and the mechanic saying "well if you drive into something your airbags are gonna go off"
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Is it possible to change the gmail account associated with the market on a phone WITHOUT doing a factory reset?
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Market=apps
Teksu said:
thats like going to a mechanic and asking him what the sound your breaks are making means, and the mechanic saying "well if you drive into something your airbags are gonna go off"
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But if you do drive into something, most times your airbags will deploy. I think the mechanic is making a valid point and merely trying to warn you.
There's quite a significant security flaw in Google wallet at the moment.
Going into application settings and then clearing data for wallet is the same as resetting wallet from within the application, without having to enter a pin. Know what that means? You're able to set up a new password and have access to your prepaid card.
That's right. If a tech-savvy thief has your phone and you don't have a passcode on the lockscreen (possibly because Google's implementation of passcode stuff sucks) or the screen hasn't timed out yet, the thief will have access to whatever funds remain on your Google prepaid card, regardless of the pin you set in the application.
This is yet another reason why Google needs to add the ability to lock out INDIVIDUAL applications with a code or face recognition, not just the friggin' lockscreen. If someone gets your phone after you've entered your lockscreen code/pattern, they have free reign over the device as long as the screen is on. Third party software for this purpose just doesn't work very well at this stage. This functionality needs to be integrated into the OS. Sorry for going off on a tangent.
Basically:
1) Go into application settings
2) Clear data for Google wallet
3) Open wallet and set it back up
4) Everything remaining on your Google prepaid card can now be used.
That's a good point I don't know if Google wallet is supposed to more secure than a credit card.
If some one steals your wallet, what do you do? Suspend any transactions for that stolen card. Just do the same with the cards you have on Google wallet.
Or I'd just remotely wipe the phone , so they have none of your information on your phone .
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bigmike2424 said:
That's a good point I don't know if Google wallet is supposed to more secure than a credit card.
If some one steals your wallet, what do you do? Suspend any transactions for that stolen card. Just do the same with the cards you have on Google wallet.
Or I'd just remotely wipe the phone , so they have none of your information on your phone .
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Any actual cards that you add to Wallet will of course be removed, but the Prepaid card will still work. How easy would it be to suspend transactions with Google?
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You have to have a passcode to use the wallet feature. I am not following this at all seriously.
To use this application, you have to get into line, make sure that your screen is on when you get to the counter and then make sure you put in your pin #/Passcode before swyping.
The only way for a thief to get access is to take your phone while its in your hand and the screen is open but then also if the screen shuts off, the application closes and you have to input your pin #/passcode again.
Try it.
Ronin09 said:
You have to have a passcode to use the wallet feature. I am not following this at all seriously.
To use this application, you have to get into line, make sure that your screen is on when you get to the counter and then make sure you put in your pin #/Passcode before swyping.
The only way for a thief to get access is to take your phone while its in your hand and the screen is open but then also if the screen shuts off, the application closes and you have to input your pin #/passcode again.
Try it.
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You can reset the application without the passcode. Once that's done, simply open it up, set it up with a new passcode and you have access to the prepaid card immediately.
Ronin09 said:
You have to have a passcode to use the wallet feature. I am not following this at all seriously.
To use this application, you have to get into line, make sure that your screen is on when you get to the counter and then make sure you put in your pin #/Passcode before swyping.
The only way for a thief to get access is to take your phone while its in your hand and the screen is open but then also if the screen shuts off, the application closes and you have to input your pin #/passcode again.
Try it.
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try this:
open clear google wallet data, run google wallet again.
it will prompt you for new passcode and link it to the google account on your device.
of course, all the credit card info is wiped, but your google prepaid card can still be added without passcode, so whatever remaining balance you have on it will be usable by whoever activate it
Ronin09 said:
You have to have a passcode to use the wallet feature. I am not following this at all seriously.
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The OP explains it perfectly.
Evangelion01 said:
1) Go into application settings
2) Clear data for Google wallet
3) Open wallet and set it back up
4) Everything remaining on your Google prepaid card can now be used.
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That means anyone who gets your phone, even while it's turned off, can follow these steps to remove whatever pin you have set. They can then set up Google Wallet with their own pin and add your prepaid card with all its funds back onto the app and start using it.
To be safe, you'll need to set your lockscreen to use one of the other security types such as pin, pattern, or password, and then hope nobody gets ahold of your phone while the phone itself is unlocked. I don't find face unlock to be very safe at all so I won't even recommend it for protecting Google Wallet funds.
to add some other failure of google wallet...somehow ur wallet gets registered w/ ur device...or that's how it looks like...i had a nexus s w/ wallet fully functional and about $12 left on the prepaid card...bought the GN and gave the NS to my wife...fully wiped the device, reinstalled the wallet and activated w/ my wife's account...guess what she got my remaining balance and when i activated mine on the GN i only got the $10...but to be 100% fair it could be something related with the fact that we're not really supposed to have this running on our phone...so might be something related to that, since my NS was on t-mobile and not sprint...hence i was running a "not approved" app...
Evangelion01 said:
You can reset the application without the passcode. Once that's done, simply open it up, set it up with a new passcode and you have access to the prepaid card immediately.
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I was having a hard time understanding too until you pointed this out (again?) ... thanks for the heads up.
did you submit this issue to google?
Elganja said:
I was having a hard time understanding too until you pointed this out (again?) ... thanks for the heads up.
did you submit this issue to google?
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Nope. How would I go about doing that? Knowing Google, even if we were to inform them today there wouldn't be a fix for at least a month.
Still can't believe that after three years they haven't got a solution allowing you to passcode protect individual applications in the OS. Dumbphones could do that back in 2004!
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Nope. How would I go about doing that? Knowing Google, even if we were to inform them today there wouldn't be a fix for at least a month.
Still can't believe that after three years they haven't got a solution allowing you to passcode protect individual applications in the OS. Dumbphones could do that back in 2004!
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should be here: http://support.google.com/wallet/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=known_issues.cs (click on "let us know") but it isn't working for me atm
Elganja said:
should be here: http://support.google.com/wallet/bin/static.py?hl=en&page=known_issues.cs (click on "let us know") but it isn't working for me atm
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No surprise there, then. Thanks for the link. Hopefully they'll fix it by Q2.
MIUI had a sweet security app based on individual apps. I would lock down my games cause my boy liked to get in there and press buttons aka delete my saves.
I don't know what process it would involve to port this over. But it would be a welcome one.
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I went ahead and emailed the relevant Google deparment about the issue. I'll keep you all updated if I get a response, but bear in mind that this is Google's rubbish customer service that we're talking about... I'm not getting my hopes up.
If you lose your phone just log into your Gmail and change the password. Problem solved.
bp328i said:
If you lose your phone just log into your Gmail and change the password. Problem solved.
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Yes, problem solved if you can get access to an internet-connected device quickly enough.
Evangelion01 said:
Yes, problem solved if you can get access to an internet-connected device quickly enough.
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I guess I just don't see it as big of an issue as you do.
I mean if you lose your real wallet you have to track down the phone numbers to your credit card companies and call then all one by one. It would be easier and quicker in this day and age to find an internet-connected device.
All my friends and family have internet-connected devices (smart phones) so I could change my Gmail password faster than I could call one credit card company, get through their phone system, get a live person on the phone and cancel the card.
When it comes to money, credit cards or any thing being use as either of the two there will always be flaws that someone will try to exploit. And with this flaw it can be correct/stopped by the end user within 5 - 10 minutes.
But seriously good find on this!
bp328i said:
I guess I just don't see it as big of an issue as you do.
I mean if you lose your real wallet you have to track down the phone numbers to your credit card companies and call then all one by one. It would be easier and quicker in this day and age to find an internet-connected device.
All my friends and family have internet-connected devices (smart phones) so I could change my Gmail password faster than I could call one credit card company, get through their phone system, get a live person on the phone and cancel the card.
When it comes to money, credit cards or any thing being use as either of the two there will always be flaws that someone will try to exploit. And with this flaw it can be correct/stopped by the end user within 5 - 10 minutes.
But seriously good find on this!
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That's true, I was trying to look at the worst case scenario. The flaw itself is pretty serious, but the consequences wouldn't be that great yet. I've only heard of one person who had over $100 on their prepaid card, and I think there are extra measures in place when purchasing larger items? Not sure.
But something as simple as this certainly needs to be fixed before NFC payments go mainstream.
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That's true, I was trying to look at the worst case scenario. The flaw itself is pretty serious, but the consequences wouldn't be that great yet. I've only heard of one person who had over $100 on their prepaid card, and I think there are extra measures in place when purchasing larger items? Not sure.
But something as simple as this certainly needs to be fixed before NFC payments go mainstream.
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I agree it is simple and does need to be fixed. They could make a quick fix by having each app that is based off our Gmail accounts require the Gmail password re-entered when an app is setup and not just ask permission.
So as the title says, I have a family member who recently passed away over the weekend. The family is trying to access his phone for any pictures and videos of him with everyone. As of right now, we don't have any info about his Google account info. We're afraid to keep trying passwords in case it ends up wiping the data after a certain number of tries. I tried using Dr. Fone but the unlock software doesn't support this phone. Not sure what to do from here but I thought you guys might be able to help. Thanks, guys.
perhaps contact the local police to inquire if they have the capability to unlock the phone? They will probably require that you prove your relationship to the deceased which I don't think anyone on this forum could do. It's not that I don't believe you, but any creeper/theif/etc could say the same thing.
GL and sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss. If he had 2 step verification where you can send a text message to his cell phone #, you could do a Sim swap, pop the Sim in a phone that you have access to. Trigger the 2 step verification for forgot password and it might work.
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I'm so sorry for your loss, and Hope you'd recover the content without much of a hassle.
Good Luck!
You can force a factory reset...that will delete apps and texts and any unsaved pics from texts will be deleted....BUT....it will not delete any pics taken by the cam and saved to the phone.
Good luck and sorry for your lost.
Was he logged into Gmail on a computer? Could possibly go to Google Photos and check for backed up photos and videos.
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sorry for your loss, I hope you can recover the photos.
1st: was already mentioned. sim swap
2nd: Try to sign into their google account. If you know their gmail (you should be able to figure this out pretty easily) and know them pretty well you can probably guess their password especially if you can remember an "old" password they've used because people are creatures of habit and reuse the same or variations of the same passwords for years. Or you can do the "forgot password" option
3rd have the legal rep ask google.
Google lets third parties request the content from a deceased user's account, but this must be requested by the deceased person's legal representative. The legal representative must upload a copy of their government-issued ID and a copy of the death certificate. Even then, there's no guarantee the legal representative will gain access.
If this works, the legal representative would be able to access data from the deceased user's Drive, Gmail, Blogger, Google+, Google Photos, YouTube and other services. But again, if the deceased user didn't back up any photos in the first place, getting into the cloud backup won't do any good.
https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/6357590?hl=en#ts=6357650
4th: okay, this one is a little macabre and you said password but I have 2 methods to get into mine so I figure I'd say it......sigh.............somehow before the funeral 1) find a way to be alone with your relative and see if either of their index fingerprints will work to unlock the phone OR 2) I GUESS you COULD ask the funeral director to unlock their phone using their fingerprints but I'm not sure how agreeable they'd be on that one.. Look, I know it's creepy but if the photos/vids are important then......sigh.....damn it sounds even more eff'd up reading it than it did in my head. Okay, sorry, I'll stop now....
good luck
First of all, I'm sorry for your loss...
I have some inquiries, and then a suggestion...
First, do you know if the former owner had "unlocked" or "rooted" the phone/device? When you turn the device on, is there a warning in the powering up process that "warns" about having an "unlocked bootloader"?
If it is unlocked and/or rooted, there are more/further options that can be done, but only if it is in this "state"...
And as for my suggestion...
You might be aware of how Apple and iPhones/iPads have a sort of "find my iphone" or "find my device" type of connection and protocol on their devices... I've personally used the "Android"/Google version (called Android Device Manager [or ADM for short]) of this to find the last location of my phone and to also ring it. But I have also noticed that they (Google) are constantly evolving it and later added a "lock" option. So, taking it a step further, I checked if there was possibly an "unlock" option; and there is! Again, I personally have never used it and do not know much about it. After some cursory reading, there are certain criteria that has to have been met while the original owner was using the phone; but if, by some amazing circumstance or miracle, things have been set up properly (and you know the deceased google account information/login), there's a good chance you might be able to get the phone unlocked. You can find the information all about this here: https://one.comodo.com/blog/itsm/unlock-your-android-device-using-android-device-manager.php
One additional thought I just thought of while writing this, along the lines of talking to Google and explaining the situation, even if you don't have the google account information/login, you might be able to obtain that information from them if the situation is explained and they have protocols for this type of situation.
Again, I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope this helps. Good luck to you...
Good morning everyone,
I am not super tech savvy, and need some help. I truly believe that my phone is somehow hacked, here is the situation:
My significant other and I are going through a break up in court,
She seems to know what I am saying in real time, often mentioning in it later that day or the next day; She seems to know what I am google searching, and even possibly what photos I have taken.
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
Could she have hired someone from the dark web or something and they have hacked or cloned my phone?
The program I have for security is Avast.
Is there anything I can do other than trading my fold 3 in for the fold 4 to completely gain confidence I am not being spied on? I know that she would go to any extreme to find out what I am doing, her whole family is schizo like that and I am really worried, I just want to have the piece of mind my phone is safe, and as of now I dont trust it, or anything else electronic in my house.
Any comments or suggestions are truly appreciated and welcomed.
Check Google account for any unauthorized logins.
Backup all critical data, remove Google and Samsung accounts from phone.
Factory reset from settings, then reset your Google account password. Done.
Be careful what you install and don't let others use the device or connect foreign flash drives to it. Do Not install or use trash sites like WhatsApp, FB, Tiktok, etc.
blackhawk said:
Check Google account for any unauthorized logins.
Backup all critical data, remove Google and Samsung accounts from phone.
Factory reset from settings, then reset your Google account password. Done.
Be careful what you install and don't let others use the device or connect foreign flash drives to it. Do Not install or use trash sites like WhatsApp, FB, Tiktok, etc.
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I agree completely with the recommendation that you do the factory reset. And if you have access to a laptop or computer-- or any other device: use a web browser to change Google and Samsung passwords. Also if you use any other email provider, chat apps change those passwords too.
eliniko said:
Good morning everyone,
I am not super tech savvy, and need some help. I truly believe that my phone is somehow hacked, here is the situation:
My significant other and I are going through a break up in court,
She seems to know what I am saying in real time, often mentioning in it later that day or the next day; She seems to know what I am google searching, and even possibly what photos I have taken.
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
Could she have hired someone from the dark web or something and they have hacked or cloned my phone?
The program I have for security is Avast.
Is there anything I can do other than trading my fold 3 in for the fold 4 to completely gain confidence I am not being spied on? I know that she would go to any extreme to find out what I am doing, her whole family is schizo like that and I am really worried, I just want to have the piece of mind my phone is safe, and as of now I dont trust it, or anything else electronic in my house.
Any comments or suggestions are truly appreciated and welcomed.
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I agree completely with the recommendation that you do the factory reset. And if you have access to a laptop or computer-- or any other device (not the phone in question): use a web browser to change Google and Samsung passwords. Also if you use any other email provider, chat apps change those passwords too.
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Yeah in this case I would say she definitely somehow has access to your Google account. Your best bet is to first go through and remove any recovery email / phone numbers you don't recognize from your account and then do a factory reset of your current device, if you want to go further you could reflash Android onto the device using ODIN but that does take some knowhow. Also check for any unrecognized apps on your device, as simply having access to your backups will not give her instant access to what you said so my best guess is that she has your passwords.
eliniko said:
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
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How do you receive any messages when in airplane mode?
eliniko said:
The program I have for security is Avast.
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You can deinstall it. It's worthless.
WoKoschekk said:
You can deinstall it. It's worthless.
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thanks, you can tell I dont know anything, can you tell me what program/app can scan my phone?
WoKoschekk said:
How do you receive any messages when in airplane mode?
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they all come through in a flurry when I switch my phone back on. I turn it on in airplane mode when I have my son with me, this is what I am most concerned about is she is spying on me for.
eliniko said:
thanks, you can tell I dont know anything, can you tell me what program/app can scan my phone?
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brain.exe! An anti virus app compares your installed packages (apps) with a black list on its home server. Is there a match => show a warning screen. The problem here is that it's no problem to install a package with a random generated name (Magisk users should know what I mean). So you have no chance to detect it. And that's only one method to bypass your anti virus.
Afraid of unknown apps? Check your installed apps either in your device settings or by checking the folder /data/app which is accessible without root permissions. Every app for Android has to store its APK in this directory or otherwise it is not executable.
Apart from that a Google account must be secured by at least 2FA. This is the minimum to secure your data. Find it in your Google settings. There is also listed which devices are currently logged in.
Messenger apps can't be installed with your account on 2 or more different devices without a warning or without being uninstalled on the first device. Additionally you need a verification for that which will be sent to your mobile no.
Spying on a device also means permanent data traffic. Did you check your device settings if any app shows irregular high data traffic?
eliniko said:
Good morning everyone,
I am not super tech savvy, and need some help. I truly believe that my phone is somehow hacked, here is the situation:
My significant other and I are going through a break up in court,
She seems to know what I am saying in real time, often mentioning in it later that day or the next day; She seems to know what I am google searching, and even possibly what photos I have taken.
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
Could she have hired someone from the dark web or something and they have hacked or cloned my phone?
The program I have for security is Avast.
Is there anything I can do other than trading my fold 3 in for the fold 4 to completely gain confidence I am not being spied on? I know that she would go to any extreme to find out what I am doing, her whole family is schizo like that and I am really worried, I just want to have the piece of mind my phone is safe, and as of now I dont trust it, or anything else electronic in my house.
Any comments or suggestions are truly appreciated and welcomed.
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I'm sorry to hear you are going through this. A friend of mine went through something similar. His ex had connections to email accounts and online messaging accounts by password spoofing and other means and might have had some help knowing what passwords he used or like to use. He was alerted of random locations of unauthorized access to gmail and yahoo many many times, he sent them to me along with other chat messages from things she wouldn't know unless she or someone was watching him. I believed his vehicle or phone had been tracked by gps but we never found anything. His ex knew stuff that didn't make sense and where he was were as if he was being watched, and I'm also positive he was being watched. They were living together during court for a 3 months and then separated. I told him to stop using all the online chats, reset phone and change passwords. And he did, but he was still being tracked. I said either they put in some gps tracking device like an apple air tag or cheap gps tracker or a recording device somewhere or had someone watching him. I told him to buy a temp phone with new number and he did and communicate with only a handful of people he 100% trusted and left his main phone at home most of time until the court stuff was over. He thought she had connections to a law enforcement detective. I said anything is possible. Talk about being paranoid. I went through most of it with him. He also bought a new computer and after a new phone and trading in his car, yes, he did all three. I thought he shouldn't have to go that far but there was a lot crazy stuff going that didn't make sense. So after he did those things and also got a secure place of his own, and bought video cameras for his car and house, she went completely was clueless...but also turned crazy agitated and annoying. There's so much more but its amazing what lengths some people will go to on both ends.
Oh I forgot to add she or someone had attached random different emails to two of his accounts for backup emails. He sent me pictures. I believe that is for an alternative login and forget password. So even if you changed it she could still get access. So check that too!
Do you have separate phone accounts or on the same plan? Hopefully separate or she could be accessing your mobile account.
Is she using Android or iPhone?
You can care or not care about it, but I say do what makes you feel safe and comfortable.
Definitely start with what Blackhawk wrote!
I'm so sorry to ramble on, your post just made me think of that and all the horrible stuff she did to my friend.
One day at a time my friend, it will get better!
I wish you the best of luck!
defcondoc said:
I'm sorry to hear you are going through this. A friend of mine went through something similar. His ex had connections to email accounts and online messaging accounts by password spoofing and other means and might have had some help knowing what passwords he used or like to use. He was alerted of random locations of unauthorized access to gmail and yahoo many many times, he sent them to me along with other chat messages from things she wouldn't know unless she or someone was watching him. I believed his vehicle or phone had been tracked by gps but we never found anything. His ex knew stuff that didn't make sense and where he was were as if he was being watched, and I'm also positive he was being watched. They were living together during court for a 3 months and then separated. I told him to stop using all the online chats, reset phone and change passwords. And he did, but he was still being tracked. I said either they put in some gps tracking device like an apple air tag or cheap gps tracker or a recording device somewhere or had someone watching him. I told him to buy a temp phone with new number and he did and communicate with only a handful of people he 100% trusted and left his main phone at home most of time until the court stuff was over. He thought she had connections to a law enforcement detective. I said anything is possible. Talk about being paranoid. I went through most of it with him. He also bought a new computer and after a new phone and trading in his car, yes, he did all three. I thought he shouldn't have to go that far but there was a lot crazy stuff going that didn't make sense. So after he did those things and also got a secure place of his own, and bought video cameras for his car and house, she went completely was clueless...but also turned crazy agitated and annoying. There's so much more but its amazing what lengths some people will go to on both ends.
Oh I forgot to add she or someone had attached random different emails to two of his accounts for backup emails. He sent me pictures. I believe that is for an alternative login and forget password. So even if you changed it she could still get access. So check that too!
Do you have separate phone accounts or on the same plan? Hopefully separate or she could be accessing your mobile account.
Is she using Android or iPhone?
You can care or not care about it, but I say do what makes you feel safe and comfortable.
Definitely start with what Blackhawk wrote!
I'm so sorry to ramble on, your post just made me think of that and all the horrible stuff she did to my friend.
One day at a time my friend, it will get better!
I wish you the best of luck!
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Thanks, this is exactly happening to me. I believe she has seen photos either from google photos or on my phone, although I dont know how she could access, as well as a critical timeline of texts have just disappeared, I have no idea how to recover them, only her texts on the text app on the fold 3 phone have disappeared, a 2 month block of our conversations, I dont know how to e tthem back, I tried reinstalling my back up, but those messages are gone, even in my samsung back up and google back up, any idea how I could have my phone professionally recover those messages, i am willing to pay whatever amount, i really need those messages for court.....any ideas? I will pay for someone to try...
What happened was, she had my phone for like an hour (before the breakup) and I noticed days later those messages gone, then came the break up, seperation, court order, etc.....it is a true nightmare that was thought out by her. I know her brother stalked his girlfriend with a gps tracker, broke into her email, facebook, etc, so i know she used his know how to do the same.
Any ideas on how to ge tthose messages back? I would be extremely grateful to get those...
You should not forget that this person was part of your life for a long time. She knows a lot of your habits in daily life and there are a lot of people knowing both of you. One of them might see you somewhere and the next day this person meets your Ex and they talk about it. You can get a lot of information about a person even without having access to his/her mobile phone, accounts and so on. Sometimes you only see what you want ro see. Especially in such a challenging situation like a separation. Often you realized it by yourself when some time is passed and you have enough distance to it.
eliniko said:
Thanks, this is exactly happening to me. I believe she has seen photos either from google photos or on my phone, although I dont know how she could access, as well as a critical timeline of texts have just disappeared, I have no idea how to recover them, only her texts on the text app on the fold 3 phone have disappeared, a 2 month block of our conversations, I dont know how to e tthem back, I tried reinstalling my back up, but those messages are gone, even in my samsung back up and google back up, any idea how I could have my phone professionally recover those messages, i am willing to pay whatever amount, i really need those messages for court.....any ideas? I will pay for someone to try...
What happened was, she had my phone for like an hour (before the breakup) and I noticed days later those messages gone, then came the break up, seperation, court order, etc.....it is a true nightmare that was thought out by her. I know her brother stalked his girlfriend with a gps tracker, broke into her email, facebook, etc, so i know she used his know how to do the same.
Any ideas on how to ge tthose messages back? I would be extremely grateful to get those...
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Ahh ha, now this is definitely making more sense. So the actual SMS MMS text app? Only way to get messages back aside from a backup would be from the carrier, AFIK. I believe there is android recovery software that may be able to recover deleted messages.
defcondoc said:
Ahh ha, now this is definitely making more sense. So the actual SMS MMS text app? Only way to get messages back aside from a backup would be from the carrier, AFIK. I believe there is android recovery software that may be able to recover deleted messages.
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Yes, the SMS. I would have no idea how to contact them, I had Infinity at the time that the texts were sent, so would they even have those texts?
eliniko said:
Yes, the SMS. I would have no idea how to contact them, I had Infinity at the time that the texts were sent, so would they even have those texts?
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Ok. I don't know Infinity, but I believe you would need to open a case with them and file a court order with other carriers. I would give them a call and ask technical support and customer relations on how you would go about getting those back. Do you have date and time when they were sent? They might need that specific information. Your attorney may have experience with this.
defcondoc said:
I'm sorry to hear you are going through this. A friend of mine went through something similar. His ex had connections to email accounts and online messaging accounts by password spoofing and other means and might have had some help knowing what passwords he used or like to use. He was alerted of random locations of unauthorized access to gmail and yahoo many many times, he sent them to me along with other chat messages from things she wouldn't know unless she or someone was watching him. I believed his vehicle or phone had been tracked by gps but we never found anything. His ex knew stuff that didn't make sense and where he was were as if he was being watched, and I'm also positive he was being watched. They were living together during court for a 3 months and then separated. I told him to stop using all the online chats, reset phone and change passwords. And he did, but he was still being tracked. I said either they put in some gps tracking device like an apple air tag or cheap gps tracker or a recording device somewhere or had someone watching him. I told him to buy a temp phone with new number and he did and communicate with only a handful of people he 100% trusted and left his main phone at home most of time until the court stuff was over. He thought she had connections to a law enforcement detective. I said anything is possible. Talk about being paranoid. I went through most of it with him. He also bought a new computer and after a new phone and trading in his car, yes, he did all three. I thought he shouldn't have to go that far but there was a lot crazy stuff going that didn't make sense. So after he did those things and also got a secure place of his own, and bought video cameras for his car and house, she went completely was clueless...but also turned crazy agitated and annoying. There's so much more but its amazing what lengths some people will go to on both ends.
Oh I forgot to add she or someone had attached random different emails to two of his accounts for backup emails. He sent me pictures. I believe that is for an alternative login and forget password. So even if you changed it she could still get access. So check that too!
Do you have separate phone accounts or on the same plan? Hopefully separate or she could be accessing your mobile account.
Is she using Android or iPhone?
You can care or not care about it, but I say do what makes you feel safe and comfortable.
Definitely start with what Blackhawk wrote!
I'm so sorry to ramble on, your post just made me think of that and all the horrible stuff she did to my friend.
One day at a time my friend, it will get better!
I wish you the best of luck!
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Stop goofing around with the runt and play hardball. Let the pros handle it. They have tools and methods that would make your head spin like Linda Blair.
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Gps tracking device on car or other personal belonging. Relax. Sit back and look at the clues, find the cause(s), plug the leaks. Better yet, let the FBI build a case and do as directed... federal crimes will put someone deep in the hurt locker.
You could actually use this situation to your advantage, for a while, you could email/text things that would really make her happy/sad/angry/jealous etc when bored with that do the above wipe recommendations!
eliniko said:
Good morning everyone,
I am not super tech savvy, and need some help. I truly believe that my phone is somehow hacked, here is the situation:
My significant other and I are going through a break up in court,
She seems to know what I am saying in real time, often mentioning in it later that day or the next day; She seems to know what I am google searching, and even possibly what photos I have taken.
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
Could she have hired someone from the dark web or something and they have hacked or cloned my phone?
The program I have for security is Avast.
Is there anything I can do other than trading my fold 3 in for the fold 4 to completely gain confidence I am not being spied on? I know that she would go to any extreme to find out what I am doing, her whole family is schizo like that and I am really worried, I just want to have the piece of mind my phone is safe, and as of now I dont trust it, or anything else electronic in my house.
Any comments or suggestions are truly appreciated and welcomed.
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The likelihood of your phone being hacked is really quite low. if you're truly concerned however, factory reset your phone, start from scratch, don't restore backups.
The main thing I'm certain you need to do is go and change all of your account passwords. If the account offers it, tell it to "force sign out everywhere"
Turn on 2 factor authentication, ideally not using a phone or email that she would know about.
Start here:
Account settings: Your browser is not supported.
myaccount.google.com
What to do if an unknown sign in or hacking attempt is found
FAQ for Samsung mobile devices. Find more about Continue watching videos after leaving Samsung TV Plus with Samsung Support
www.samsung.com
Goes without saying, go change facebook passwords, twitter, all your socials. change everything.
eliniko said:
Good morning everyone,
I am not super tech savvy, and need some help. I truly believe that my phone is somehow hacked, here is the situation:
My significant other and I are going through a break up in court,
She seems to know what I am saying in real time, often mentioning in it later that day or the next day; She seems to know what I am google searching, and even possibly what photos I have taken.
When I put my phone in airplane mode a few times, I could tell, even though she would have no idea that I put it in airplane mode, she freaked out by texting me repeatedly as if she was trying to get me to respond to pick up my signal or something.
Could she have hired someone from the dark web or something and they have hacked or cloned my phone?
The program I have for security is Avast.
Is there anything I can do other than trading my fold 3 in for the fold 4 to completely gain confidence I am not being spied on? I know that she would go to any extreme to find out what I am doing, her whole family is schizo like that and I am really worried, I just want to have the piece of mind my phone is safe, and as of now I dont trust it, or anything else electronic in my house.
Any comments or suggestions are truly appreciated and welcomed.
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Maybe you should change your phone and SIM card?