enable 3rd part notification on lockscreen - Windows Phone 7 General

as most of you know, microsoft is taking suggestions to improve wp7
i believe this is easier and better than a notification center, if you agree please vote.
thanks.
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...3rd-part-notification-on-lockscreen?ref=title

Interesting idea, but I would still prefer a notification center outside of the lock screen.

Yea great idea, but will MS actually do what we suggest or trick us again by creating features with fancy names that dont do exactly what we ask.

3 votes from my side.
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HTC Widget for Brightness?

Is there an HTC widget available for brightness? I am usually on auto, but at times I need to change it. It is a lot of swipes to do so in the interface.
I know there are some in market, but all the ones I see dont work with the auto setting.
the Power widget will let you adjust brightness from auto>full>minimum.
Weather & Toggle Widgets has an awesome brightness widget.
SwitchPro has a nice configurable widget bar, I like it better than Powerstrip.
It does, cost .99 where Powerstrip is free, but you can always refund if you end up not liking it.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/alei.switchpro
edit: Powerstrip doesn't work with auto brightness anyway, SwitchPro does.
i use brigtness level widget. it's got a slider and predefined quick settings.
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. Will try them out.
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys. Will try them out.
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I'm not quite finished it but I've been editing a widget I got in the Market to match the style of the HTC ones. I'm a complete noob at the process so I've been going in circles but am nearly done. I'll be happy to send it to you when I'm done.
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I'm not quite finished it but I've been editing a widget I got in the Market to match the style of the HTC ones. I'm a complete noob at the process so I've been going in circles but am nearly done. I'll be happy to send it to you when I'm done.
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I'd love it if it could look like this:
GumboChief said:
I'd love it if it could look like this:
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Here is the basic design:
The images were the easy part. Getting them to show up on the home screen correctly has been a pain in the *ss. I've been tweaking the XML of a widget I got in the market but haven't yet perfected it. Schedule is prettyl light today so I am hoping to finish it tonight.
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Here is the basic design:
The images were the easy part. Getting them to show up on the home screen correctly has been a pain in the *ss. I've been tweaking the XML of a widget I got in the market but haven't yet perfected it. Schedule is prettyl light today so I am hoping to finish it tonight.
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Perfect look. What would the functionality be? Would the switch control auto-brightness?
How would one access the sliding scale?
I'm playing around with a widget that has five settings. Tapping the widget cycles through the different settings.
Ideally I'd like to have one with the same functionality of the Dazzle widget which has 4 settings including Auto as well as a sliding scale. If you know of a free brightness widget other than Dazzle with that functionality I'll give it a try. The Dazzle one looks to be a bit more difficult to edit.
Just to update you. I am making progress but not finished. I'm editing a widget with a sliding scale and that displays the current setting.
I've got the Widget to display at the right size but I am having trouble figuring out how to get a background to the label. It shouldn't be too hard to reposition the value setting so that it is centered in the widget at which point I'll redesign it to be cleaner. But, need to figure out the shadow first...
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Looks great. Can't wait to see the final product!
The value level number is killer
P.S. I kinda like the number right where it is
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P.S. I kinda like the number right where it is
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Well, if you put it that way
I got the spacing figured out for the text label (it was skewing to the left before). And, I changed the brightness icon from blue to gray because I thought there was too much blue if the value indicator is going to stay.
That said, there are still two issues I've yet to figure out:
1. I've yet to add the background behind the text label. This is not a big deal with dark wallpaper, as you can see in the pic. But, with lighter wallpaper it looks like sh*t (see earlier screenshot).
2. Because this is merely an edited Market App there is a good chance the Marketplace will still prompt for an update if there is one. I need to figure out how to remove whatever signature is there to prevent that.
Needless to say, I'm still working on it... But, since it is currently usable with a dark wallpaper, I've added a link so you can download and use it while I figure the rest out.
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Will install now, and let you know what I think in the morning.
Thanks so much for the effort!
Also, with appbrain, it is easy to tell it "ignore market updates"
When an update is found, click on the X and it is an option.
Very quick feedback-
If auto is set in the HTC settings, it overrides the slider in about half a second.
If I turn off auto in HTC settings, then slider works as expected.
Is there a way to make this compatible with "auto"?
I use auto most of the time, except in the dark, when auto is still too bright.
Genius. Thanks for sharing. Works great!
PS A little blue in the center wouldn't be bad. Would go along with the other HTC Settings widgets better.
Either way though, this is a great little tool.
yeah I think this is awesome, cant wait to see how it goes with the little fixes you wanted.
Great job!

Let's make Windows Phone 7 even better!

So, im new to xda. And while im no fanboy of any OS and appreciate IOS, Android, WebOS, heck even Symbian, Windows Phone 7 holds a special place in my heart. WP7's unique modern user interface is stunning and its buttery smooth, the app market is growing rapidly, it has HUGE potential. But there's one thing that's lacking; customization. Accent colors and black or white backgrounds just ain't gonna cut it in my opinion and i know some are against background wallpaper because it can take away the elegance of the OS i believe there is a way to do it properly. A 17 year old by the name of Jozef Kocúr has come up with his own concept of what the Mango update should bring to the OS to really make the OS complete, he devotes a blog entirely to created WP7 OS concepts, and suffice it to say they are awesome. What i would like to do is make these concepts a reality, with the help of developers of course. Heck if we cant create this atleast lets make these concepts heard.
First off he's come up with what he calls "Aero Integration"
The idea of Aero Integration to WP7 has been stuck in my head since May 2010. In June 2010 I created the first concept of WP7 showing the semi-transparent tiles with own background on the home screen. I liked it; I thought it looked much better than original WP7’s UI. In the last couple of months I have learned a lot. I realized that the WP7’s user interface does not need to have semi-transparent effects to be beautiful. However, the integration of the Aero could be one of the things that customers would appreciate. After publishing that concept I found out that people liked it. Many people want to have a chance to personalize their home screens.
Let’s look at the advantages of this concept.
-Beautiful looking UI would become more beautiful by using the right combination of the backgrounds, system’s color and the transparency level.
-Personalization on your own.
-Good marketing trick.
Also, this concept has a couple of disadvantages.
-The concept could ruin the idea of the Metro UI.
-Beautiful looking UI would become intricate by using the wrong combination of the backgrounds, system’s color and the transparency level.
I don't think the current Metro UI is bad. On the contrary, I love it a lot! All I want to say is that people need a choice.
Thus, I think the Aero Integration should be a part of the next Windows Phone 7 update.
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See, thats a subtle yet elegant way to add background wallpaper to WP7, gradients would be awesome.
Next is what he calls "Control Bar" its pretty much a status bar with utilities
I came up with the idea of having an all basic system setting right on the home screen with my first Windows Phone 7 Modification. Later, I realized that it was a copy of the Notification Area from Android OS. I tried to find a solution to add quick notifications, Zune’s control, and the basic system control to the one area. Widgets and Control Panel did not work. I have tried many different concepts. Firstly, I tried to add a 3rd additional screen to the left of the Home screen. Then I added control buttons and quick notifications right to the Tiles. They both interfere with the idea of the Metro UI. Finally, I came up with a smart solution. I call it Control Bar.
The Control Bar brings quick notifications, Zune’s control, and the system control buttons to the top of your screen. To open the Control Bar simply press the Home button twice quickly. This opens the Control Bar, which primarily shows the system control buttons. Just slide to the left to launch Zune’s control buttons, or to the right to show latest system notifications. In the notifications area you can also scroll down to show more notifications.
Control Bar is not a solid part of the Home screen. Open it only if you need to.
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Next up is "Live Thumbnails"
Different platforms have a possibility to categorize items. WP7 does not even let us arrange items in the menu. I am coming up with an idea of Live Thumbnails. Imagine you can categorize items in the menu; even add a category to the Home Screen as a tile. The tile may show the thumbnails of items; the user gets a possibility to open an application/music file/contact right from the tile by pressing twice on the item. I think the best use of this would be in the Tablet OS (maybe WP8?).
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And finally Multitasking, he's created a different approach to the way Multitasking should work on WP7 that fits better with the Metro UI then the WebOS cards we'll be getting
Am I the only one who doesn't like the pictures of the Multitasking that Microsoft presented at the MWC in February? I think the cards with horizontal scrolling don’t fit the idea of Metro UI. So, I decided to change it a little more. The result was the cards with the vertical scrolling. To open Multitasking Menu just press the back button twice quickly, or use a zoom out pinch gesture. To close applications simply swipe the card up.
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And so we have:
Aero Style:
Basic Style:
As you can see with these modifications WP7 would be even more amazing then what is it now, and im hoping developers can come together and make this a reality, especially if Microsoft doesnt announce any customization features coming with Mango. Let's atleast spread the word about this concept. Heres the link to Jozef Kocúr's blog with other concepts as well.
http://jozefkocur.blogspot.com/2011/03/wp7-mango-update-concept.html
I really like that. Many of the 'concept' themes have been overly busy, or taken away from Metro and the simplicity of design.
This one keeps it simple while adding functionality and additional style.
I would really like some of this ability in the future.
Yeah, that really looks nice
I'd love that
Wow. I liked the last semi-transparent concept on Pocketnow, but these are stunning. Nothing overly complicated, but simple, bright and colourful. Really great idea for the control bar toggle switches too.
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This looks really good.. SPB can do it if they try..
Looks awesome... nice work.
Aero would be very nice
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Thumbs up from me, top quality work there!
I love the way you have the multitasking showing. I'm not a fan at all of the cards that Mango currently is showing. Doesn't fit the UI.
Im glad the feedback has been positive on here, the Aero Style is pretty amazing. Im hoping we can get some developers on board the project to help make these features become a reality, so if anyone is or knows a developer that can possibly do with with other developers that'd be great.
As for the the people (one guy) that disliked the idea, i have your answer, no the metro UI isn't stale, its a unique beautiful and elegant OS that is buttery smooth from the ground up, the idea of this concept adds what us as consumers love to have, is the OPTION to custimze your phone. The features added in this concept dont take away from the elegance of the OS but intertwine with it.
So hopefully developers want to come aboard and help this concept become a reality, as i feel this concept should not go to waste
I'm currently an evo owner but I have been keeping my eye on wp7 and recently watched the mango update video MS put out. I'll say this, WP7 is young but is showing incredible potential. The systemic integration of everything is brilliant and the apps available are top notch. When Sprint gets a keyboardless wp7 phone with a bigger screen I'll be buying one. Kudos to microsoft, this looks to be possibly the most promising OS available today, as far as innovation at least, we'll see if it catches on.
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Hey guys. I am actually the author of this concept. Thanks for adding it here. And of course, It's really nice to see a positive feedback.
jojo2531 said:
Hey guys. I am actually the author of this concept. Thanks for adding it here. And of course, It's really nice to see a positive feedback.
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Love a lot of your work on these concepts. I hope some of them get picked up. Aero is awesome
I hate the solid "system colored" background look of the current multitasking. your look is far more elegant, however, the mango multitasking only holds 5 recent apps. That wouldn't look right with your tiled screens
I would like RogueCode's adaptation of Long Zheng's suggestion for the multitasking, with your aero theme... Could you mock that up?
I can't add image here. but here's the link:
img198.imageshack.us/img198/5137/mulasking.png
^ Absolutely awesome, i love the idea of the gradient you choose in aero being there for the multitasking as well. I really want some developers to try and make atleast parts of your concept become reality, if not the whole concept. I myself have had an Iphone, Samsung Galaxy S (international version) to Blackberry and even Symbian. Im no fanboy as i respect what each OS brings, but i recently just ordered a Windows Phone 7 after had played with one and i fell in love with it, the only things lacking are what your concept brings, im not a crazy customizer but i do love to make the phone mine and this is what the concept brings. Hopefully we can make this a actual thing.
The elements that jojo is customizing in these mock-ups are not something that a developer can customize today. It would be up to Microsoft to either a) enable such 3rd party customizations, or b) implement the customizations themselves.
At this point, there is no indication that either option will be coming any time soon.
That's Awesome! I'll post it for you:
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looks really really good.. Great work...
Yea...Aero is awesome and so is the multi tasking...

The evolution of Live Tiles

Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
937dytboi said:
Hey guys, just wanted to spark a convo and how you think MS can or will evolve the Live Tiles. I beleive they will get boring after a while. They should spice them up with some different transitions and movement. Will there ever be a change to the way our tiles are setup and viewed? How can they keep the homepage interesting, innovative, and quick for the user without following the footsteps of the grid format?
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I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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PG2G said:
I'm curious why you think they would get boring. Live Tiles are just a way for an app to display information, they are only as boring as the apps that are using them.
I would like to see support for apps to use doublewide tiles though, and perhaps animations (like the people, music, and other stock apps have) instead of static images. We really just need more APIs and multitasking.
Imagine stuff like the following
1. Check-in tiles that automatically update when your friends are checked in nearby or there is a popular place, deal, etc
2. Traffic apps that show a near-live map on a tile
3. Exercise apps that show a near-live counter of calories burned, miles run, or speed
There is a lot that can still be done, IMO.
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I like your ideas, you got something going there, we can build off of that, reason i made this thread to reflect on ideas as such
They look and work fine for me.
vetvito said:
Screw the animations. How about useful information.
Instead of a simple number how about the phone tile show who called?
How about the messages and email tile showed the messages or detail.
Because right now they're basically huge ass icons with numbers.
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These ideas should definately be implemented, I totally agree
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They look and work fine for me.
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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They work for me well also but im thinking 5-6 years down the road, how will they change this will they keep the metro look or how can they improve on what we have is my question? Scrolling can sometimes be a pain especially when you have tons of stuff pinned.
How about specific hubs like how they have in the marketplace for categories, Depending on what category you download from it will go to that hub to help minimize the amount of scrolling. Jkust a thought. Kinda like how iOS takes a icon and its several similar apps in the one icon
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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They look and work fine for me.
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As I agree with you as of not but, the color selection is lame, I want to customize my phone a little. Right now besides using a hack to change or add colors, there is no way to really do that.
I would like to see some type of texture or something to jazz up the tiles a little.
They work great now but, just need a little tweaking in my eyes...
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I dotn think they will change it, because its a smartphone , with tiles, icons ect. i dont know in any way how else they can change it , without rendering the phone functions useless
IMO, wp7 UI is already an evolution from IOS and android. this is where the best it can get.
many years ago, during the nokia symbian early 2000s days i used to yearn for a phone interface which runs like those nice flash websites u see on the net, almost half a decade later, we have it now - WP7. This is the closest u can get .
Another possibility i see , are those maybe in windows phone 8 , we will see those widgets , floating widgets like weather which may pop up when u unlock on the start screen
stuff running on the lock screen ,
overall i only see a a possible change in looks in the future, maybe 3D tiles or customizable widgets, tiles , ability to choose to display what u want to see on the tile
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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LexusFman said:
Make all of the tiles animated, including phone, Internet, mail, and basically all of the defaults. It doesn't have to do anything useful, just look cool.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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Its called HTC Sense 3.5. Its stunning.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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My number one issue with Live Tiles is that developers can't change the police size on them (confirmed by a few devs I asked). So many tiles who flip to show you information are just as useless as non live tiles because they show incomplete information.
Just now I'm looking at my phone and all my pinned news feeds show cut off titles which is pretty stupid.
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By 'police' I wasn't sure if you meant font size? Or Tile width?
As a developer you're limited by Microsoft to hardly any text on the front of a tile (and only in one specific position), and only the option of a large-ish font on the back of a tile (often too big as you say to display say a full news headline).
You can see what a developer is allowed to change on a tile here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh202948(v=vs.92).aspx
i.e. a single number, a small bit of text on the front, some text on the back, and a background image. I think it's too limiting at the moment.
You can get round these limitations a bit by dynamically generating the tile background (for front or back) as an image (e.g. of some smaller font text). That's not easy to code though, especially if you're trying to dynamically generate the image on the phone through say a wp7 background agent. It's a bit easier doing it on a server - but that means it won't work when there's no mobile signal. Having to generate the whole thing as an image (especially just to display smaller font text) also feels a little bit like using a sledgehammer to knock in a nail.
Similarly I think Microsoft should let developers create double width tiles - they could even make it a marketplace certification requirement that the user should have an option of specifying single/double width tile in the app. As long as the user has the option of choosing I can't see the harm.
Microsoft should be giving developers full and easy access to what happens in those 173 by 173 squares of tile pixels. Perhaps even give the user the option in-app as to whether the developer is allowed to make the Tile animate or not - I think then Tiles would become a lot more interesting.
Yeah I meant font size, sorry I'm French
On your app (loving it by the way) the text on the back is usually fine because it displays scores but on BBC News or WPCentral for instance you only get half a headline or something like that which is totally useless as you then need to open the app to know what's going on. It goes against the concept of Live Tiles, I don't get it. On the other hand, on the Me tile the font size adapts to the text there is to display so it is possible, it's just Microsoft not giving access to devs, totally stupid.
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I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Lie much? For every tile on WP7 I have a widget. Left Widgets behind? What planet are you on?
Tiles offer absolutely no function, only partial information.
Mesh together? Nearly every app implements good tile practices? Sure they do, sure...
Sense is fat and not that good? However your other post perfectly describes Sense.
But yeah
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link68759 said:
I cannot disagree more. WP7 metro is about simplicity and information. It looks good because it's no flare, all business. Leave themeing to the modding community (whenever we get past the rooting stage that is). The best thing for microsoft to do is increase tile functionality without jeopardizing the 'ease of use'.
My one idea is; implement the option, per app, to have a new pinned tile go either to the top, or to the bottom. For example, notes and to-do could auto pin to the top, everything else to the bottom. That way if I want something on top, I don't have to scroll down to find it, then drag it up.
Or maybe 'pin tile' should bring up a zoomed out edit screen, you tap twice where you want the tile.
Another thing; that black empty space on the right. Make it into a scroll bar, so you can navigate faster.
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hmm HTC sense for android is fat and not that good. (Interesting that Sense for WinMo had more functionality and was much better... but I digress.) What's more, android's widgets aren't that great either. The whole point of android initially was widgets, but now I have an app that I use and a separate dedicated widget, for the same function and purpose, for nearly everything. I had a newsreader app, and since the author never bothered to make a widget, I had to go find a widget. Or I did that, until I realized that widgets were useless. None of them mesh together, a lot of them take up a lot of space and offer very little functionality, they slow down your phone and eat your ram.
Now with wp7 and tiles, nearly every app implements good tile practices, and with tiles there is no issue of things taking up too much space or being ugly.
It seems to me that for the most part, android and android devs have left widgets behind. WP7 will embrace the tiles for... always probably.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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Flare sells phones though. I'm not talking about a super flashy animation that doesn't do anything but I think most of the default tiles can be pretty static and boring compared to the useful stuff. My favorite tile on WP7 is the people hub because it's constantly moving and changing even if it doesn't do anything. If every tile was like that, Windows Phone would stand out to the average consumer more than it already does.
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For me, the animation of the People tile has seemed pretty useless. There doesn't seem to be any meaning behind what people are displayed and why. If there is, I haven't seen it. I love the People Hub, but the Tile just doesn't provide much value to me.
To me, I would much rather have settings to determine which people would show on the tile. Then disappear once acknowledged, like the email indicators. So, if a contact updates Facebook, I may want to see it. But, I don't care if most of my contacts update things. So, in an ideal world a persons picture would only appear if they had updated something. Then it would be hidden and remain hidden once I acknowledged it. Then if something else would be updated, it would appear. And the users this would apply to would be set by me.
Effectively the animation of the People Tile just seems like noise.
Animation for the sake of animation is just distracting and consumes additional power.
I want the ability to control the app from the tile itself. Kind of like toggle switches.
Hardware limitations
Hi all
I think that some of the limitations on Live tiles are due to hardware considerations. Regular live tiles are limited to one background update per 30 minutes. This is because MS is keen to maintain performance and battery life. I think that as hardware improves, particularly mobile processors, we will see live tile functionality expand.
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andrew-in-woking

[IDEA][REQUEST] Notification Alert application

Hi All,
I am not a developer and I was wondering if its possible with the new SDK from Heathcliff74 and the fully unlocked roms to develop an application that will use sounds to alert us of a new "missed call", "sms", "calendar event" and so on... This must be customizable as to how many times to alert us, what sound to use, maybe a scheduler for this to run. The alert should go off as soon as you see the missed call or read the new sms.
I think a utility like this will be very useful. What do you think??? Any developers out there that can give us some info if this is possible?
If this is posted to the wrong place please move.
Thanks. GIPAQ
Sound looks great ---> I think we use event toast notification with sound alert for Miss call, Fully charge battery, and etc
I'd rather have Microsoft implementing something like a notification center.
I know I saw a thread a while back that had an example that would work perfect, that if you swipe left at the tiles you'll get something like Androids or iOSs notification center.
But I think Microsoft is satisfied with the live tiles, which is kinda sad. A "real" notification center would be better than anything.
Regards
Izaac
IzaacJ said:
I'd rather have Microsoft implementing something like a notification center.
I know I saw a thread a while back that had an example that would work perfect, that if you swipe left at the tiles you'll get something like Androids or iOSs notification center.
But I think Microsoft is satisfied with the live tiles, which is kinda sad. A "real" notification center would be better than anything.
Regards
Izaac
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[Request] Taller status bar

Oi, mates.
So, as we all know, the OP6T has a notch. Issue with it compared to Google's native software implementation is that the status bar mostly behaves like the notch isn't there.
If we take a look at the developer options, we can simulate a display cutout with the "Double display cutout" which realigns the status bar and gives it more breathing space. Unfortunately, that also makes the notch bigger as the OS simulates the bigger notch.
I've attached screenshots of both of the layouts.
If someone could possibly modify the layout to use a layout made for notches, I'd really really appreciate it. I believe this can be achieved via a substratum theme or a Magisk module that utilises the OOS.
If I'm being unclear or you're wondering something regarding the simulated notch (maybe using OSS to patch out the black bar so it's invisible?) Then please let me know and I'll try to elaborate.
Thank you in advance and I'm really hoping someone will fullfil the request.
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The status bar is already tall enough to accommodate the notch, what exactly are you asking for?
Yozak said:
The status bar is already tall enough to accommodate the notch, what exactly are you asking for?
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I'm asking for an option to use the stock AOSP layout.
It might be nice if it also aligned with the end of the corner radius, as at the moment there's still a bit of dispay curve below the status bar and it kind of looks sloppy.
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I'm asking for an option to use the stock AOSP layout.
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The AOSP implementation is to make the status bar as tall as the notch, which is what they are currently doing. I don’t see what you think the benefit will be if extra space is added.
Yozak said:
The AOSP implementation is to make the status bar as tall as the notch, which is what they are currently doing. I don’t see what you think the benefit will be if extra space is added..
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I didn't ask for your preference. I am requesting a mod to adjust it to my preference.
Why would you want the status bar Taller then the notch. Makes no sense
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Why would you want the status bar Taller then the notch. Makes no sense
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Read the post right above yours. Thanks.
I did. Since your the only person that would want something weird like that I very much doubt someone is going to take the time to make a useless mod
I think you're being 100% unclear as to what benefit what your asking for even has. Out of the box implementation is just fine in mine and probably nearly everyone but yourself book. If you want someone to go out of their way to make something you might want to give an actual use case for what your asking for or it's unlikely anyone will even try. Just my 2 cents though.
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I did. Since your the only person that would want something weird like that I very much doubt someone is going to take the time to make a useless mod
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It's literally the way AOSP is. I use Google's gestures too, which people usually dislike even though OnePlus gestures are available. Why would I do that? Because I want a stock setup. Android is about choice, not "why that's pointless". Do you attack all those people with custom Zelda themed battery indicators and odd icon packs?
You can literally toggle this layout. Only issue is that you get a bigger notch.
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I think you're being 100% unclear as to what benefit what your asking for even has. Out of the box implementation is just fine in mine and probably nearly everyone but yourself book. If you want someone to go out of their way to make something you might want to give an actual use case for what your asking for or it's unlikely anyone will even try. Just my 2 cents though.
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What if people would like a stock layout? It's literally how Google implemented it. OnePlus modified it on top of what Google made (they basically removed it altogether but whatever)
Why would someone want a taller status bar? It's nothing but a waste of screen space. If anything, I'm trying to find a way to hide the status bar and display apps underneath the notch as if it doesn't exist.
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What if people would like a stock layout? It's literally how Google implemented it. OnePlus modified it on top of what Google made (they basically removed it altogether but whatever)
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything here just trying to help, I guess I just don't get why what we have doesn't work for you. Maybe an AOSP rom would have what your looking for (pixel experience did release).
lemonspeakers said:
Why would someone want a taller status bar? It's nothing but a waste of screen space. If anything, I'm trying to find a way to hide the status bar and display apps underneath the notch as if it doesn't exist.
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That's what YOU prefer. Why is it so hard to grasp your mind around my preference? I prefer my status bar to be at a good position according to the curvature of the display. I work as a UX designer, and things like this bother me. I'd like to see if someone could take a look at this because it's a fairly simple task.
I didn't ask for your opinion, so please, just leave.
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything here just trying to help, I guess I just don't get why what we have doesn't work for you. Maybe an AOSP rom would have what your looking for (pixel experience did release).
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That's the thing, I like the stability and battery life of the stock ROM. + smart boost is a nice thing to have with 8GB of RAM. I don't think any other ROM (unless stock-based) will have those features. I literally just want a Pixel skin slammed on top of OxygenOS to revert what OnePlus changed. Someone will likely respond with "you should have bought a Pixel" but let's hope not.
Android is about freedom, right? That's why I'm asking for help to customise it to my liking. It's not even a big request.
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It might be nice if it also aligned with the end of the corner radius, as at the moment there's still a bit of dispay curve below the status bar and it kind of looks sloppy.
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That's exactly what I'm looking for basically. The AOSP layout looks great on the OP6T
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That's the thing, I like the stability and battery life of the stock ROM. + smart boost is a nice thing to have with 8GB of RAM. I don't think any other ROM (unless stock-based) will have those features. I literally just want a Pixel skin slammed on top of OxygenOS to revert what OnePlus changed. Someone will likely respond with "you should have bought a Pixel" but let's hope not.
Android is about freedom, right? That's why I'm asking for help to customise it to my liking. It's not even a big request.
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Even the simplest of modifications can be a royal nightmare to implement my friend. I might poke around a bit when I get off work and see what I can come up, mainly out of curiosity lol. Don't hold your breath though so it's been ages since I worked on Android.
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Even the simplest of modifications can be a royal nightmare to implement my friend. I might poke around a bit when I get off work and see what I can come up, mainly out of curiosity lol. Don't hold your breath though so it's been ages since I worked on Android.
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No worries, cheers. I know small stuff can cause lots of trouble, but from what I've seen, every single one of these cutout simulations are APKs with resources in them. Using OSS to replace their backgrounds to transparent ones would possibly work, but it's just a theory. I appreciate it

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