Everything being so big on the screen cause of the resolution..?
I'm an OG Epic 4g user so naturally I was going to get the ET4G, I went into the sprint store to try it out and wow... everything looks huge on it. Icons, pulldown icons, etc. Now to be fair it probably is because I'm used to my 5x5 Grid settings on Go Launcher on my 4in screen, but I don't know it I'd be able to coop with things being that large on the phone.
What's your experiences and how are you guys managing with it like that?
Not knocking the phone in any means, just caught me off guard when I played with the demo and everything looked like I accidently held Control on my computer keyboard and scrolled up on the desktop haha.
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I think its awesome, gives the phone its own unique identity. Makes my evo running go feel boring. I dont have a preference either way.
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I think its awesome, gives the phone its own unique identity. Makes my evo running go feel boring. I dont have a preference either way.
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Ehhh I've never been a fan of big screens and low resolutions.
My laptop is 17in and I run it at Max 1920x1200 resolution, everyone that uses it says they don't know how I can handle text being that small lol.
The Prime is suppose to be a higher Res though right? Wonder if it'll look the same though since the screen is also bigger...
Decisions decisions <.<
Did you come from an OG epic as well?
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I think its awesome, gives the phone its own unique identity. Makes my evo running go feel boring. I dont have a preference either way.
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Ehhh I've never been a fan of big screens and low resolutions.
My laptop is 17in and I run it at Max 1920x1200 resolution, everyone that uses it says they don't know how I can handle text being that small lol.
The Prime is suppose to be a higher Res though right? Wonder if it'll look the same though since the screen is also bigger...
Decisions decisions
Took me about 2 minutes to get used to it coming from a 3D. The only thing that really looked different to me was the notification bar...everything else kinda looks exactly the same.
The only thing I don't like about the nPrime and new Samsung "HD" models is the aspect ratio....16:9 SUCKS. Unless you've had a qHD device you don't know....your screen is so damn narrow (or short, depending on orientation) and it's annoying. Even though the resolution you gain from it more than makes up for it, the form-factor itself is extremely irritation (to some)...The only thing I miss from my EVO3D is the qHD resolution, but, the one thing I miss the least is the 16:9 aspect ratio....
...unfortunately it seems as though 16:9 is the new standard, so, this will likely be our final phone that isn't 16:9...
infuriating.
The ET is only usable to me with the density/dpi (there are apps in the market) changed down to 200 or lower. This breaks the layout of something TW things, but is worth it, especially for someone like me who runs as close to AOSP as possible and uses aftermarket apps for everything anyway.
At the regular resolution, this phone would be entirely unusable in my opinion.
For what it's worth, the lack of qHD isn't too bad. The other positives of the screen (super contrast, vibrance) subconsciously make up for the difference.
About 20 seconds. My big worry was the on-screen keyboard, but with a screen this size, I'm faster on it than I was my old epic keyboard....and it doesn't skip keys. Also, the camera is a major improvement over the Epics in every way except audio. I'm looking into getting an external microphone.
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The ET is only usable to me with the density/dpi (there are apps in the market) changed down to 200 or lower. This breaks the layout of something TW things, but is worth it, especially for someone like me who runs as close to AOSP as possible and uses aftermarket apps for everything anyway.
At the regular resolution, this phone would be entirely unusable in my opinion.
For what it's worth, the lack of qHD isn't too bad. The other positives of the screen (super contrast, vibrance) subconsciously make up for the difference.
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The ET is only usable to me with the density/dpi (there are apps in the market) changed down to 200 or lower. This breaks the layout of something TW things, but is worth it, especially for someone like me who runs as close to AOSP as possible and uses aftermarket apps for everything anyway.
At the regular resolution, this phone would be entirely unusable in my opinion.
For what it's worth, the lack of qHD isn't too bad. The other positives of the screen (super contrast, vibrance) subconsciously make up for the difference.
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Ah I never knew of those apps! so from what I understand, they do make everything smaller like I'm saying?
You may have just swayed me back to the ET4G haha.
Something else I realized too though that only Epic users would feel, is that it feels well... Like the same ole tthing.. (Of course bigger and upgraded) but I'm not really sure I felt the "New" factor when I was using the ET.. feel like the Prime may make me feel the sensation of a new experience..
I completely understand you E3D users and you guys coming from other phones and the ET being a new experience for ya, but for me coming from a Epic its felt.. well the same lol
But I don't know if that's good or bad, I felt at home when I was using it.. But whats the point in buying a new house if they have the same floor-plan lay out so to say ..
Any epic4g (or other Galaxy S ) users feel like its the same ole thing and that the Prime might give more of a "Whoa this is new!" experience for us?
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Sounds like a lot of us was expecting that EVO 4g experience, expecting to be blown away. I agree I haven't had a major wow factor since then. I don't see a quad core phone doing much for me either.
I set my dpi to 200 by editing the build prop, on the evo3d it was 190. Personally to me it the stock dpi looks like its set for people who are vision impaired.
I use a dialer app to fix the uneven look of the stock dialer.
What are you guys using to change the dpi? and the dialer?
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Sounds like a lot of us was expecting that EVO 4g experience, expecting to be blown away. I agree I haven't had a major wow factor since then. I don't see a quad core phone doing much for me either.
I set my dpi to 200 by editing the build prop, on the evo3d it was 190. Personally to me it the stock dpi looks like its set for people who are vision impaired.
I use a dialer app to fix the uneven look of the stock dialer.
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I like your honesty man.
In your opinion, is the differnece between, the Epic and the Epic touch worth paying full price for? (Not eligible for a full upgrade til June)
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I adjusted right away, personallyI think everything in stock form is fine, I don't like holding my phone 4 inches from my eyes to be able to read everything, I can hold this thing in a natural position
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To me, having Flash work in the browser and the ability to change font size was all I needed to see to sell me on it, the screen that is. I haven't even felt the need to root yet. Every other phone I've had, I had to root to tether so I could hook my UMPC up for browsing and whatnot. Since I bought this I haven't even turned the UMPC on.
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Ah I never knew of those apps! so from what I understand, they do make everything smaller like I'm saying?
You may have just swayed me back to the ET4G haha.
Something else I realized too though that only Epic users would feel, is that it feels well... Like the same ole tthing.. (Of course bigger and upgraded) but I'm not really sure I felt the "New" factor when I was using the ET.. feel like the Prime may make me feel the sensation of a new experience..
I completely understand you E3D users and you guys coming from other phones and the ET being a new experience for ya, but for me coming from a Epic its felt.. well the same lol
But I don't know if that's good or bad, I felt at home when I was using it.. But whats the point in buying a new house if they have the same floor-plan lay out so to say ..
Any epic4g (or other Galaxy S ) users feel like its the same ole thing and that the Prime might give more of a "Whoa this is new!" experience for us?
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I hear ya. Coming from an E3D it definitely has a new "floor plan"...
...however coming from the E4G to the E3D that also definitely had a totally different feel to me. 16:9 screen, qHD, Sense 3.0 (I hate sense)...and it sucked. All I wanted was the newest hardware. I didn't actually want anything else. The upgraded "experience" involves changing a lot of things that aren't technical upgrades and are entirely matters of opinion--and that leaves a lot of areas to screw up. Opinion can be a ***** like that.
So, excepting "experience" there is only hardware upgrading. This is definitely that....and while it might feel like a faster smoother version of the same ol' thing, Samsung's idea of a new 'experience' might be far more offensive than you would suspect.
I just downloaded tw 4.5 and set the app drawer to display a higher number of apps and the homescreen to do the same (more rows) Launcher pro can do the same. Also you can adjust the LCD density.
As for the original question, it didn't take any time to adjust to the larger screen although when I try to use my wife's OG epic I do notice how much smaller it is and that takes a minute to get used to. Also, I can't believe how slow the OG epic feels now that I'm used to everything happening almost instantly...
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I like your honesty man.
In your opinion, is the differnece between, the Epic and the Epic touch worth paying full price for? (Not eligible for a full upgrade til June)
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I didn't use the epic 1, I didn't and wouldn't pay full price for this phone, I had a friend sign up for sprint and took her new contract discount. She got my MoPho I only had for about a month.
First of all qHD pentile displays are technologically and visually inferior to the samoled display in the E4GT. This is without a shred of doubt the best display in the world right now. There are rumors that sammy is taking qHD where it needs to be at a bare minimum with the prime at a full 720p resolution. Please don't try to compare fake high res pentile photon or 3d crap to a amoled masterpiece like what the e4gt has. We'll see what samsung is able to pull off with qHD soon since samsung is the worlds cutting edge innovator in displays. I think samsungs real deal high res qHD displays comming out won't have screen door effect.
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Hardware is everything, here on android we control our own software experience. This phone will be running ice cream sandwich in a couple months.
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Hello everyone,
I am a current evo 3d user who is purchasing the touch tomorrow (and giving the 3d to my financee).
Why am I purchasing the 4g touch. We all know it is a fast phone, it is great, etc, etc.
1) I want a phone that is fast, and great out of the box. I don't want to have to root it, overclock it, etc to make myself feel like I got my money's worth. The epic 4g touch will accomplish this (not saying I won't root it, or flash roms, I always do ).
2. I want a phone that is future proof. I want to be happy with the performance of my phone a year from now. I have yet to have a phone accomplish this, and I don't have the money to swap phones every 6 months (though I wish I did). I believe the epic 4g touch will be future proof...even for an entire upgrade cycle.
3. I want a great screen. The evo 3d didn't have this...and that is inexcusable for a "superphone" that cost as much as a good laptop. The epic 4g touch arguably has the best screen in the market at the moment.
4. Touchwize 4.0 looks pretty damn sweet
What do you guys think? Why are you buying the phone?
Also, for those who have the phone, how is the screen? Is the resolution lacking on such a big screen? How would you rate the phone for viewing pdf's....etc?
I am a graduate student, I need a phone I can read on .
-Blue
That sexy proccessor and that beautiful screen along with that thin perfectly shaped body....
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That sexy proccessor and that beautiful screen along with that thin perfectly shaped body....
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Just like what we want in our women
This phone stock blows a rooted and overclocked 3d out the water. I just switched from the 3d and its better times 10.
Better signal. Better screen...even at lower resolution ..exynos core is a BEAST..plays n64 games on emulator stock smoother than overclocked evo. Better cameras..better speakers...this thing screams dude. And most of all...its a GREAT PHONE before anything. Great call quality..stronger reception than the 3d. If your on the fence..jump man..it's worth it
sent from my damn EPIC TOUCH 4G!!!!
Sounds like good reasons to me. The E3D is a great phone but I think this one is a little better all the way around.
I feel like the hdmi out would make up for the lack of a high res screen (even though it doesnt look any different from one that does). Just plus that sucker up to a cheap 10 inch hd TV and your set imo.
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I feel like the hdmi out would make up for the lack of a high res screen (even though it doesnt look any different from one that does). Just plus that sucker up to a cheap 10 inch hd TV and your set imo.
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How much of a sore spot is not having TV Out on the original Epic? People go nuts over it whenever the thread gets bumped. If the WVGA screen uses any less battery than qHD then I can't think of anything I would complain about. I purchased 2 movies from Media Hub and, I am dead serious, the clarity is every bit as good as my 1080 HDTV...and that's on my Epic. I can't wait to see the same flix on the ET4G tomorrow since the screen is supposed to be a little better even. Power and battery life seem great from reviews, Improved Touchwiz..ok, I will give it a real chance. I can honestly see myself running rooted stock and not complaining abou it while waiting for the real goodies to get baked.
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I'm coming from the Epic 4g and I loved that phone. I told myself I wouldn't upgrade until I found a true successor. With everything I have read about the E4gt i'm hoping this is the one. Plus I loved the developers for the Epic 4G and i'm hoping they come along to this phone as well!
I'm buying it because I know it's a beast of a phone that I'm going to fall in love with and appreciate for a very long time like i did my Evo was for it's time. But actually I am also buying a Samsung this time around because believe it or not, Apple is filing litigation against them. That unfortunately has become my litmus test of great products to come. As you can probably tell, I hate apple with a passion. Whoever Apple's suing the most at any given point will receive my business.
I am.... maybe buying it depending on Nexus Prime news or lack of Nexus Prime news over the next 4 weeks.
The deciding factors for me are:
1) The performance of the Processor and Video Processing. yes benchmarks doesn't fully tell the truth, but with out tweaking anything the numbers its putting it out is mind blowing. 90mflops with over 3000!!! Look at the gaming number too!!! next to the photon its a Tachyon!!
2) The Camera sensor. the only device to record at 1080p!!!! What is wrong with HTC and Motorola? why cant they contend with that ability. Its not a Android software issue. if the EVO 3D had DUAL 8MP EVO cameras at least then the EVO 3D would have had more stomping ground. More megapixels does mean a sharper image when sized down to smaller resolutions, to get real 35mm photo quality images digitally you need around 20 megapixels to equal the same sharpness and depth of analog camera quality. so in Digital Megapixel world less means LESS, yes the sensor may matter, but still digital needs more pixels to equal analog quality.
3) Battery Life. So far the reviews for Sept 15th are confirming that the battery life is better than the other 2 contenders.
4) THE SCREEN. 4.5 inches of pure bliss beauty. I cant wait to see the Samsung NOTE Super AMOLED HD 5 inch screen!!!!! too bad they couldnt have a higher resolution on the AMOLED + to the 960 x 540. Really I want the Samsung NOTE over the Epic now, but it looks like Sprint might not get it as in the specs doesn't show CDMA, still could mean a version for sprint may come out of the molds..
5) Software abilities, Yes Sense 3.0 still has amazing features that wont be copied, but then from the new motion sensing feature of Touchwiz looks promising. it was about time they used the motion/extra sensors to input with the software. Really I want full customization of any animated features for ALL phones, if you want a specific animated software feature, you should not be limited to only certain things per manufactures decision only be limited by the main operating system. If you want the cool Carousel feature of the main menu, Sense UI should not be the only one to have it. Heck having the carosel feature with shaking the Epic touch left or right with out using your finger would be KILLER. I also like the cube conveyor belt like feature of the Apps selection on the Nexus S. I have a few other animated features I want to see implemented that I saw with Ubuntu since android is based off of linux kernel, majority of all the Ubuntu like animated features could work on it. all in all the new software features is a serious worthiness.
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The deciding factors for me are:
1) The performance of the Processor and Video Processing. yes benchmarks doesnt fully tell the truth, but with out tweaking anything the numbers its putting it out is mind blowing. 90mflops with over 3000!!! Look at the gaming number too!!! next to the photon its a Tachyon!!
2) The Camera sensor. the only device to record at 1080p!!!! WTF is wrong with HTC and Motorola? why cant they contend with that ability. Its not a Android software issue. if the EVO 3D had DUAL 8MP EVO cameras at least then the EVO 3D would have had more stomping ground.
3) Battery Life. So far the reviews for Sept 15th are confirming that the battery life is better than the other 2 contenders.
4) THE SCREEN. 4.5 inches of pure bliss beauty. I cant wait to see the Samsung NOTE Super AMOLED HD 5 inch screen!!!!! too bad they couldnt have a higher resolution on the AMOLED + to the 960 x 540. Really I want the Samsung NOTE over the Epic now, but it looks like Sprint might not get it as in the specs doesn't show CDMA, still could mean a version for sprint may come out of the molds..
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even at 480x800, it still looks amazing. I just came from the qHD screen on the 3d. Everytime I turn on my screen i just stare at it.
But yeah I want to see a higher res version of this screen.
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Just like what we want in our women
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
Success100 said:
even at 480x800, it still looks amazing. I just came from the qHD screen on the 3d. Everytime I turn on my screen i just stare at it.
But yeah I want to see a higher res version of this screen.
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Just goes to show how bad PenTile is.
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
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... Haven't we all
This phone gets me harder than viagra
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Yeah okay I'll admit, I've banged women that were less attractive than this phone.
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Most men have, I would be lying if I said I hadn't
Aside from the GPS, Samsung pretty much nailed the hardware in the Galaxy S line. Their Hummingbird based hardware blew away it's contemporaries, and the SAMOLED screen drew raves (although the pentile matrix display was docked points by some for the screen door effect and fuzzy text). But the software wasn't on the same level. Touchwiz 3.0 was not the greatest skin in the world.
The reason I'm getting the Epic Touch is because Samsung continued its hardware domination this generation, fixed GPS, went RGB stripe with the SAMOLED Plus screen, and, more importantly, worked very hard to make the software work on the same level as HTC's Sense skin. The result is arguably the best phone on the market (screen size preferences being the biggest deciding factor) and for what I look for in a phone, easily blows away it's nearest competitor. I am very, very happy that I decided to forgo the Evo 3D to wait indefinitely for the S2. Thank god it's here now, and thank god they moved to the 4.52" screen. The Epic Touch is basically my dream phone.
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Aside from the GPS, Samsung pretty much nailed the hardware in the Galaxy S line. Their Hummingbird based hardware blew away it's contemporaries, and the SAMOLED screen drew raves (although the pentile matrix display was docked points by some for the screen door effect and fuzzy text). But the software wasn't on the same level. Touchwiz 3.0 was not the greatest skin in the world.
The reason I'm getting the Epic Touch is because Samsung continued its hardware domination this generation, fixed GPS, went RGB stripe with the SAMOLED Plus screen, and, more importantly, worked very hard to make the software work on the same level as HTC's Sense skin. The result is arguably the best phone on the market (screen size preferences being the biggest deciding factor) and for what I look for in a phone, easily blows away it's nearest competitor. I am very, very happy that I decided to forgo the Evo 3D to wait indefinitely for the S2. Thank god it's here now, and thank god they moved to the 4.52" screen. The Epic Touch is basically my dream phone.
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my sentiments exactly. this is my dream phone
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I am.... maybe buying it depending on Nexus Prime news or lack of Nexus Prime news over the next 4 weeks.
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Same here... I don't want to jump ship now just to found out the Prime is coming out a couple months from now.
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Most men have, I would be lying if I said I hadn't
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Hahaha i would have to say this phone is much sexier than my ex wife
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So what does everyone think of the resolution, specially those who are coming from higher resolution devices? It is up to par?
Thinking I might go pick mine up later today.
-Blue
I did miss threw resolution of Photon for the first.5 min lol
But the color reproduction and screen size make up for it.
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So what does everyone think of the resolution, specially those who are coming from higher resolution devices? It is up to par?
Thinking I might go pick mine up later today.
-Blue
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Yup. Sure do. But as already stated once I got my launcher and homescreens set up I don't even effin' care anymore. It could use a slight DPI tweak, but, nothing the native resolution can't handle.
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Yup. Sure do. But as already stated once I got my launcher and homescreens set up I don't even effin' care anymore. It could use a slight DPI tweak, but, nothing the native resolution can't handle.
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Speaking of launchers, would a backup of LauncherPro on my sd card allow me to recreate my home screens onto this device?
So your Apps are not pixelated?
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So your Apps are not pixelated?
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Lol. You've gotta be trollin'. One of the major downsides to qHD is that apps that weren't made properly wouldn't fill the screen, and that's annoying as hell.
No, everything looks fine...fantastic even. Very fantastic. Stunning.
Sux...I barely got into setting mine up before I decided to head for a 100% charge. I got it at 45%, but, I plan on leaving the house for a while later and don't wanna risk it. (turned off so it charges faster)
I'm expecting it to be good battery life, better battery life, but, nothing staggeringly better.
Trolling? Hardly.... I just picked up mine own. I remember you from the 3d forums. How's it going. I assume your happier with this device? I sure am so far...
Hopefully we can leave this trolling obsession back in the evo 3d forums....
I only got the charge to 85 before I had to take it with me to lab. Battery is holding real well so far.
Neon setting with SwiftKey x is known incredible....
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Trolling? Hardly.... I just picked up mine own. I remember you from the 3d forums. How's it going. I assume your happier with this device? I sure am so far...
Hopefully we can leave this trolling obsession back in the evo 3d forums....
I only got the charge to 85 before I had to take it with me to lab. Battery is holding real well so far.
Neon setting with SwiftKey x is known incredible....
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Oh man neon SwiftKey X is beast! I'm much more accurate on neon than regular
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Trolling? Hardly.... I just picked up mine own. I remember you from the 3d forums. How's it going. I assume your happier with this device? I sure am so far...
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Much much more so. I am thrilled. I might actually keep this phone for a long while. I just have this feeling of complete satisfaction and no feeling of concern or worry that the E4G gave me but no amount of E3D's could.
Hopefully we can leave this trolling obsession back in the evo 3d forums....
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+1. My bad.
I only got the charge to 85 before I had to take it with me to lab. Battery is holding real well so far.
Neon setting with SwiftKey x is known incredible....
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I love swiftkey X...I used to love swype, but, pffft, not any more.
Good to have you on board man.
the epics touch screen is 10 times crispier than the photon that i returned today.period.
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the epics touch screen is 10 times crispier than the photon that i returned today.period.
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True that
I dont know why ppl lying about photon display I saw it at the sprint store and it sucks than 3d let alone compete with epic touch.
In my opinion, this display looks much better than the pentile qHD I had on the Photon.
The way pentile cheated at resolution meant that its supposedly high-resolution was actually kinda a sham. When zoomed all the way out on webpages with fine text, it was ugly, and when scrolling through text like on the apps list, the text shrunk while it was being moved.
Here, the full resolution is actually usable, meaning that it actually looks higher-res than the Photon did to me.
The whites seem a little less white next to my Epic but I have a feeling they may be muted a touch to help with battery or something along those lines. I actually prefer it like this. My Epic is blinding at night even with brightness dropped all of the way down.
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anyone play with the screen mode setings for like dynamic and such?
Actually, I'm having one issue with resolution..
I have some images of landscape I took while on vacation last year with my EVO 4G, used them for wall paper.
Put them on here (tried them on my daughters original Epic as well) and they images are fuzzy..
Any idea why?
But something is telling me to wait and see what comes out by the end of this month, does anyone feel the same way? Or is anyone waiting to possibly return theirs?
I really hate the lack of support that this phone has. I think it would definitely be more popular if it was the first phone to get ICS as well, besides the Nexus of course.
The Skyrocket.......I just can't do it. LG actually updating the Nitro around the same time as the Skyrocket........I don't think it's going to happen.
I played with both phones, and the stock Nitro was a damn lag fest.
Seriously, what could be coming? A 3D screen (if so, I'm not particularly interested in them). I would imagine the 1280x720 IPS screen of the Nitro is going to be as far as the technology goes for awhile to come.
I do agree that lack of Dev/hacker interest is a bit light for the Nitro at the moment...But the phone only hit the streets Dec 5th and we've already got root, so that ain't nuttin.
You played with the Nitro and Skyrocket, where? If it was at a store, then unfortunately you saw the bloated down version of the Nitro. I assure you when you debloat the Nitro it makes quite a difference, with root and couple of tweaks it's even better still.
I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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I agree, I went through 3 SII's before I gave up. I'm only hesitant about grabbing the Nitro because I want the Note, but maybe I should just go for it. It seems to be performing just as good as the Nexus, if not better in some stuff.
What's the reason for all the LG hate? Is it just the device support, or the build quality?
The build quality is excellent, we are just lacking dev support currently.
Root the phone and install Ram Manager from the Market and you wont even know its the same phone.
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The build quality is excellent, we are just lacking dev support currently.
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+1 on the build quality. Where some of the blogs get off on it feeling cheap I just don't get.
Its all Nexus hype which doesn't really make sense to me. The nexus series is supposed to be a development platform, not a top of the line phone...
Anyways, ram manager has made a significant difference with my phone, I absolutely recommend it.
Screen / Hardware is brilliant ,We can root it, download mode has been discovered, all we need is some custom recovery / ROM !
Just traded in my skyrocket for the nitro. Build quality is not the issue. The issues I've noticed thus far is the lack of optimizations LG has made to Android for this hardware and usability out of the box. There is zero hardware acceleration on the ui and its obvious. The overall sluggishness out of the box is making me second guess my exchange. I'm going to give it a run, but I might be returning this and waiting for the note. PS the screen is pretty sweet though
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Yep, you pretty much nailed it. The phone is lacking in overall polish that Samsung adds to their phones. Scrolling is just smoother and there's generally less "jitter" on Samsung phones. Seems finger-tracking is better as well. HTC/LG/Moto/Sony phones all seem to not bother with optimizing their phones - they just insist on bloating it up and using the fastest processor they can.
I think only ICS can really help this phone out because of the hardware acceleration, no ROM will really do much but get rid of some bloat.
If you can get your hands on a GSM Galaxy Nexus I'd recommend that if you want something similar to the Nitro - Ice Cream Sandwich is just in a different league.
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Just traded in my skyrocket for the nitro. Build quality is not the issue. The issues I've noticed thus far is the lack of optimizations LG has made to Android for this hardware and usability out of the box. There is zero hardware acceleration on the ui and its obvious. The overall sluggishness out of the box is making me second guess my exchange. I'm going to give it a run, but I might be returning this and waiting for the note. PS the screen is pretty sweet though
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+1 on the build quality. Where some of the blogs get off on it feeling cheap I just don't get.
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The back cover feels cheap, the glass also feels like plastic (probably because of unusual rolled edges?).
Speaking of glass, it's dirt magnet, in day time without direct sunlight the oil from hands at certain angle makes it very hard see what's on the screen. Skyrocket doesn't have this problem.
Yeah yeah, I should wash my hands more often, I know, I know.
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Seriously, what could be coming? A 3D screen (if so, I'm not particularly interested in them). I would imagine the 1280x720 IPS screen of the Nitro is going to be as far as the technology goes for awhile to come.
I do agree that lack of Dev/hacker interest is a bit light for the Nitro at the moment...But the phone only hit the streets Dec 5th and we've already got root, so that ain't nuttin.
You played with the Nitro and Skyrocket, where? If it was at a store, then unfortunately you saw the bloated down version of the Nitro. I assure you when you debloat the Nitro it makes quite a difference, with root and couple of tweaks it's even better still.
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720p will be the limit for all of 6 months to a year. Then we're going to see full HD screens in 3d variants with ridiculous refresh rates. Marketing hype
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720p will be the limit for all of 6 months to a year. Then we're going to see full HD screens in 3d variants with ridiculous refresh rates. Marketing hype
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I don't see true HD (1080p) coming to smartphones (or at least not anything under 5"). As it is now, with the 720p on 4.5" screen, that's something like 329ppi. Supposedly that's about the limit that the naked eye can focus to.
Higher than that and not only is it moot, but adds complexity and potential roadblocks. There's already a couple of games I can't run on my Nitro, even using the helper app in the Display settings, because they can't be drawn correctly on the high rez screen.
3D, on the other hand, I agree is likely on its' way. I have a coworker that bought an Android phone recently (can't recall the model) that has the dual-cameras that shoots pics in 3D. So I can't imagine a 3D screen itself isn't too far behind.
l0lz @ the readable native font size on a 1280p <5" screen
you will need a magnifier but it will be crystal clear!
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I didn't mean screen wise. (Imo, the screen is more than enough)
1. Not LG (Due to support/etc)
2. Better speaker, higher internal memory.
3. Something that doesn't have to be tweaked out of the box to work smoothly.
In regards to the dev Support, we recently got a hold of one of the revs that brought cwm to the Atrix and have sent him some boot files/images.
Stick around and have some hope, this phone is beyond amazing.
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I took my nitro back today for the skyrocket. It's going to take some time to get used to this screen.
I enjoyed the nitro but had an issue with it that just couldn't figure out.
Without deleting any apps other than att bloat, I let the battery run down to charge back up but after that I turned it on and it booted to the lock screen. Went to unlock it and nothing, black screen. Hard reset and same thing.
I'm going to miss that screen but if I can adjust to this 2010 display I think I'll love the skyrocket.
Best of luck to you all on getting dev support for what has the potential to be a great device. And as far as feeling cheap, I actually liked the feel of the battery cover on the nitro.
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I took my nitro back today for the skyrocket. It's going to take some time to get used to this screen.
I enjoyed the nitro but had an issue with it that just couldn't figure out.
Without deleting any apps other than att bloat, I let the battery run down to charge back up but after that I turned it on and it booted to the lock screen. Went to unlock it and nothing, black screen. Hard reset and same thing.
I'm going to miss that screen but if I can adjust to this 2010 display I think I'll love the skyrocket.
Best of luck to you all on getting dev support for what has the potential to be a great device. And as far as feeling cheap, I actually liked the feel of the battery cover on the nitro.
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Just out of curiosity, did you install a 3rd party launcher or anything that might have done that? I know, for example, that if you disable/uninstall the LG launcher you could run into that if there was no 3rd party launcher installed.
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I've played with Skyrocket for 3 weeks and can tell you, it's garbage...for starters the screen is awful, it has very visible at some backgrounds vertical "static" lines all over (image can move, but the lines stay, which makes them extremely visible) and colors are all messed up. All that is probably because of the resolution, which is a joke at modern standards. The battery life was as bad as Nitro (yet, I've been using Nitro for just 30 hours).
Right now on Nitro with rooted stock rom I can do more then I could've done with a custom rom on Skyrocket...Now if I could figure out how to disable that damn lock screen...
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Try the no lock app in the market, it should work.
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Just out of curiosity, did you install a 3rd party launcher or anything that might have done that? I know, for example, that if you disable/uninstall the LG launcher you could run into that if there was no 3rd party launcher installed.
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I was using launcher pro but that shouldn't have caused the issue it had. It was probably just a faulty device. They even tried reflasing it the att store which did nothing for it.
I do miss that display.
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my friends all have a iphone 4s i need to know how my phone compares to it. They have a beautiful display
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Just put your phone next to theirs and they'll be jealous of the extra inch in [screen] size
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4212
All phones > iphone
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Just put your phone next to theirs and they'll be jealous of the extra inch in [screen] size
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Or say wow, why the hell do you need a phone this big??! thats what everybody tells me....
plus iphone 4s screen looks way better unless ur in ''vibrant colors'' that aren't natural/real. Our GS2 also sucks at dark colors which is the sole purpose of SAMOLED, but out display is fu**ed up
go get one then, if you think it's better because everyone has it..jump on the bandwagon..us intelligent people go for specs and customization..if you wanna be jailed just so you have to jailbreak well so be it.
There phone screen is higher resolution, but ours is higher contrast ratio. So it looks more vibrant, just play a hd movie side by side. We have removable and expandable storage. We can swap batteries if we need to during heavy usage. Rooting and customization is much easier on this device. You can add movies and music simply by copy and pasting, no need for an iTunes program. More ram I believe, and a faster processor also. (I think haven't seen specs on 4s). All I can think of right now..
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If you have to ask you should probably get one. The gs2 is better then the iphone easily, the iphone is supposed to be the best at media considering it started as being an ipod and a phone and the gs2 is better by far don't have to covert nothing just throw shows on my phone and watch on that big screen or use allshare to watch on my tv using my ps3. Real file managing, bigger screen, better battery life, customizable in just about everything example: keyboards, home replacements, widgets etc all this is easier on the gs2. I'll give the iphone one thing it has nice games and thats about it I use to like it because of the accessories to play music through car stereos but now with bluetooth my gs2 is hands down better I can control my music calls and even pandora easily.
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If you have the desire to look like every other douche bag that's sporting an outdated OS just so they can say hey I have an iPhone then get one.
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If you have the desire to look like every other douche bag that's sporting an outdated OS just so they can say hey I have an iPhone then get one.
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its not outdated my friend, its actually pretty advanced, sure its more limited than android, but its still beast, i still like my iphone better, it just syncs so well with my mbp ;P
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its not outdated my friend, its actually pretty advanced, sure its more limited than android, but its still beast, i still like my iphone better, it just syncs so well with my mbp ;P
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its also updated to the newest version in all devices from the last 3 years.
Asking that question here is like going to a Linux Fest and asking if Linux is better than Windows because all of your "friends" run Windows
I killed my brothers with his fan boy a$$....He brought it over one day and even him being on verizon couldn't keep up with my gs2. You would think with a high end phone that would at least have 4g....damn shame!
wthell.. i don't even.... I should throw an iphone at you.
When it comes to the OS it really depends on what you personally like. I like Androids UI way better and it can even be customized with Launchers and dialers and what not with out even rooting..
As for hardware I would say even though the screen res is lower My GS2 looks better than my friends 4S and my Wifes Sensation, the colors are just washed out on the other screens to me at least.. But other than that the S3 chipset is pretty bad as$.. just sayin
All about the screen size for me and 3.5 isn't gonna cut it
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Lol I mean the screen size by it self already makes me dislike the iPhone.. what a joke.
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Screen size on iPhone is small as hell..after u have a sgs2. IPhone 4s display looks better thats IT!!! Favor sgs2 in all other categories..
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Compared to Android, yes it's outdated, iPhone sells just BC of the name.
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Depends on your preferences.
The safer/ more reliable phone would be the 4s due to
-years of support in the way of os updates and apps
-easy to jailbreak
-easy to customize once jailbroken(near endless tweaks and all)
-better games/apps
-better design(minus screen size)
I'm no apple fanboy btw because I know the flaws, especially if you're a technical person:
-no sd card/ removable battery
-locked into itunes(apple ecosystem)
-hassle to get movies/songs onto device if you don't use itunes
-small screen/no 4g(although I can guarantee that the next iphone will have these)
-unjailbroken stock is very bland and has near zero customization.
I think one of the main reasons people hate iPhones is because of how their users/fanboys act and say all else is inferior.
What really disappoints me first hand is the sound quality from the iPhones speaker.... sounds like it's being run through a distortion pedal when you pump it up too "loud"
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I have been using an Evo3D for the past few months and in that time I have already had the screen replaced once for having dust under it. I had the hardest time dealing with sprint attempting to get them to replace the screen and after many hours of complaining they reluctantly swapped it out for me. I have pretty bad OCD and seeing the dust under the screen is absolutely unbearable, this is clearly a manufacturing defect considering I had this problem with my OG Evo. I can't keep dealing with this, and I can't keep dealing with Sprint's non-sense. The assembly method on Samsung phones seems to be superior to that of HTC because I don't really hear any complaints about dust under their screens. And typically the resolution is significantly more rich than the QHD screen on the Evo3D. I know that this phone is definitely a step down from what I am used to and by no means is the Epic 4G a power house but I feel like I could be content with this phone, and play all my GBA games on it because of the keyboard. I would clean my Evo3D's screen on my own but I fear I may end up with more dust that I started with. Can you guys give me a hand here? I appreciate all your guys input, thank you in advance.
It's a great device. Even greater with a fully functional build of Cm9 Android 4.0.4. The build quality is definitely far superior to the Evo or Evo 3d. I've taken good care of mine despite not using a case or screen protector (I too am insanely OCD) and it still looks like it just came out of the box. I for one have been perfectly content with it and will continue to be despite having an upgrade till November when Google releases the new 5 Nexus devices.
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I see. Now this is going to sound really outrageous but since sprint discontinued the Evo3D line, what are the chances I can complain enough to exchange my 3D for one of the old Epic 4G's they might have in the stock room, because I really don't feel like hastling them to replace the screen on my Evo3D for it to just get dust again in a month or so. But I mean I really like the Epic, and it has the cortex A8 or something which is apparently better than the OG Evo's processor. Do you know anything about the Epic's ability to run a GBA emulator? I really hope it can do fluid games with sound.
I have no issues with my screen, but i have dropped it a few times on brick and cement and just a few scratches is all the result was nothing major.
And to just say my phone out performs my friend's EVO 3D, and my mother's EVO 4G. As Well Stock Galaxy S2, My phone even looks better than the Google Nexus LTE ( Screen and Color Wise ) Thanks to Voodoo Color.
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I see. Now this is going to sound really outrageous but since sprint discontinued the Evo3D line, what are the chances I can complain enough to exchange my 3D for one of the old Epic 4G's they might have in the stock room, because I really don't feel like hastling them to replace the screen on my Evo3D for it to just get dust again in a month or so. But I mean I really like the Epic, and it has the cortex A8 or something which is apparently better than the OG Evo's processor. Do you know anything about the Epic's ability to run a GBA emulator? I really hope it can do fluid games with sound.
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It should run that emulator like nothing. I used to play n64 on it. It was decently smooth. Also played psone and it was fluid as well. I can imagine gba games being even smoother....
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Do you know anything about the Epic's ability to run a GBA emulator? I really hope it can do fluid games with sound.
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I know Uber games on his not sure what emulator he uses but he doesn't have a problem. I also think he use's another kernel that allows for UV/OV. Look him up or wait for him to see this thread. He is pretty active around here despite being on the Gnex now LOL.
EDIT: Like I said LOL he posted as I was typing LOL
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I have no issues with my screen, but i have dropped it a few times on brick and cement and just a few scratches is all the result was nothing major.
And to just say my phone out performs my friend's EVO 3D, and my mother's EVO 4G. As Well Stock Galaxy S2, My phone even looks better than the Google Nexus LTE ( Screen and Color Wise ) Thanks to Voodoo Color.
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How in the world does it outperform them? Not saying I dont believe you, do you have any screencaps of performance? Just so I know whether to drop the money on it? I can get one used locally for like 120$ Then I can ebay the 3vo for like 150$ (minimum).
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How in the world does it outperform them? Not saying I dont believe you, do you have any screencaps of performance? Just so I know whether to drop the money on it? I can get one used locally for like 120$ Then I can ebay the 3vo for like 150$ (minimum).
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Of Course its going to cost more its newer and its "3D" big whoop the 3D was more of a noveltee, and it outperforms in a sense I can play games without lag, mine doesn't have issues with loading apps, I use stock sd cards to compare yet mine stock runs faster and loads faster. Real World Performance. Not some stupid app that tells me I have a bigger score.
Go to sprint and fiddle with the Epic granted it won't be rooted so you can't see how much better it is obviously compared to stock.
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How in the world does it outperform them? Not saying I dont believe you, do you have any screencaps of performance? Just so I know whether to drop the money on it? I can get one used locally for like 120$ Then I can ebay the 3vo for like 150$ (minimum).
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To say the epic screen looks better than the galaxy nexus's is a crock. I have both and have compared both. I have Gama and rgb control as well... and my screen looks ton better than my epic. So seriously stop talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about.(lost soul)
To the OP if you can't find a reasonably good deal on the galaxy S2 epic touch. Then I would go ahead and get the OG epic.
Voodoo sound and color is a tuning app. It allows you to adjust your sound card... and the color allows you to tune the rgb values ans the Gama values. It helps the phone look a lot better than stock values.
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To say the epic screen looks better than the galaxy nexus's is a crock. I have both and have compared both. I have Gama and rgb control as well... and my screen looks ton better than my epic. So seriously stop talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about.(lost soul)
To the OP if you can't find a reasonably good deal on the galaxy S2 epic touch. Then I would go ahead and get the OG epic.
Voodoo sound and color is a tuning app. It allows you to adjust your sound card... and the color allows you to tune the rgb values ans the Gama values. It helps the phone look a lot better than stock values.
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Gotcha, here's the thing though I found one for 79$ on CowBoom with only hairline scratches and a few of them to boot which sounds great to me. I really dont want to spend all that much money on the SII when I can save my money to eventually get the SIII or the GNexus. I really like the whole keyboard thing because I can play GBA games with some real keys, I just want to make sure the epic 4G can handle it first, Im looking for speed in CM9 or ICS, and great emulator performance at this point because I like playing games on my phone. Also Minecraft would be nice with the physical keyboard.
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Gotcha, here's the thing though I found one for 79$ on CowBoom with only hairline scratches and a few of them to boot which sounds great to me. I really dont want to spend all that much money on the SII when I can save my money to eventually get the SIII or the GNexus. I really like the whole keyboard thing because I can play GBA games with some real keys, I just want to make sure the epic 4G can handle it first, Im looking for speed in CM9 or ICS, and great emulator performance at this point because I like playing games on my phone. Also Minecraft would be nice with the physical keyboard.
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Gotcha. You definitely will be pleased with that then. It will run games pretty decently smooth. I cant speak for GBA myself but I do know that it runs the legend of Zelda like a champ. With minimal to no lag. And flawless when you over clock it. If your strapped on cash then yes this will be your happy medium. It doesn't out pre form any of the dual cores but its pretty up there.
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has provided feedback to me, I really appreciate it because I just cant do HTC and their obnoxious build quality, light leakage, dust, etc.
I work with fiberglass for a living and often grind with my epic in my back pocket. I've never had an issue with dust under my screen. If anyone has a chance of getting it in there it would be me.
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To say the epic screen looks better than the galaxy nexus's is a crock. I have both and have compared both. I have Gama and rgb control as well... and my screen looks ton better than my epic. So seriously stop talking about stuff you obviously know nothing about.(lost soul)
To the OP if you can't find a reasonably good deal on the galaxy S2 epic touch. Then I would go ahead and get the OG epic.
Voodoo sound and color is a tuning app. It allows you to adjust your sound card... and the color allows you to tune the rgb values ans the Gama values. It helps the phone look a lot better than stock values.
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Your voodoo color settings must suck then because even my friend thats works at sprint even told me my screen looks brighter and color looked much better.
To the OP GBA Works fine i use it and it worked great even back on the Froyo days so your good there.
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Your voodoo color settings must suck then because even my friend thats works at sprint even told me my screen looks brighter and color looked much better.
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No they don't.... I've shared them with multiple people and they have said they were the best they've ever seen. And your comparing the stock gnex values to a modded epic. Thats not a fair fight... mine was.
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No they don't.... I've shared them with multiple people and they have said they were the best they've ever seen. And your comparing the stock gnex values to a modded epic. Thats not a fair fight... mine was.
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Hey haha lets not fight here! So I hit up craigslist and traded some guy who works on phones for his job and it has some tiny scratches but nothing I can deal with, the screen looks vivid man and I havent even rooted it yet. No dust WHATSOEVER, in fact the digitizer looks super close to the lcd. Its beautiful..
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Hey haha lets not fight here! So I hit up craigslist and traded some guy who works on phones for his job and it has some tiny scratches but nothing I can deal with, the screen looks vivid man and I havent even rooted it yet. No dust WHATSOEVER, in fact the digitizer looks super close to the lcd. Its beautiful..
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Its not an LCD. Its an led . Sorry I hate when I caught in an argument. Did you want some helping rooting? I can remote root it for you if you would like. Shouldn't take but 15 minutes depending on how fast a learner/ Typer you are.
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I really appreciate the offer! I actually rooted it the second I got home with it, running CM9 with ShadowKernel. Absolute butter... oh man its so amazing... The screen is beautiful, the pentile is weird, coming from SLCD and QHD.. But from a distance it looks magical. Now I just need to let it fully charge up, grab the gba emulator and get rocking with this baller keyboard. The screen is very easy to look at, almost like it is soft, and lcd seems harsh now. If that makes sense.
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I really appreciate the offer! I actually rooted it the second I got home with it, running CM9 with ShadowKernel. Absolute butter... oh man its so amazing... The screen is beautiful, the pentile is weird, coming from SLCD and QHD.. But from a distance it looks magical. Now I just need to let it fully charge up, grab the gba emulator and get rocking with this baller keyboard. The screen is very easy to look at, almost like it is soft, and lcd seems harsh now. If that makes sense.
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Its not a pen tile display. its a regular old samoled. It has an rgb configuration. The galaxy nexus is a pen tile. Meaning its configuration is rgbg. It has more green sub pixels.
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Its not a pen tile display. its a regular old samoled. It has an rgb configuration. The galaxy nexus is a pen tile. Meaning its configuration is rgbg. It has more green sub pixels.
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Well sorryyyyy for not knowing proper terms for subpixel configurations haha. Like I was saying though it looks different, but it looks alot more rich. And its running fantastically where it is now. Now I need to get a screen protector and I'll be a more than happy camper. What the best battery life you have gotten out of this?