Non-Samsung Gtab 10.1 Dock - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories

I just came across this on E-bay, this may answer some problems with docks and creating a bespoke soloution for usb mas-storage/hdmi for thoes with a technical background or just provide a better looking unit for thoes that don't. I have ordered one and will post a feedback on how well it works/build and it it fits the book-case!
wow.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-DESKTOP-DOCK-CRADLE-MOUNT-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-TAB-2-10-1-P7500-P7510-LTE-/120782262491?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c1f2f10db
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The dock is basically useless, it des not even have its own connectivity, only space for a data cable. Useless.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-DESKTOP-DO...2262491?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c1f2f10d
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40$ for a simple stand? Seems a bit pricey.
(For that money you can almost combine the 7" HDMI and the 10.1" useless dock into a pretty useful "10.1 HDMI dock".)

Im not looking at is a finished product to be honest, Im looking at it as a basis to go with some custom leads that Im making to allow USB mass storage access, charging and HDMI output in a one. And the stock Samsung one does not allow for much space to do this.

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[Q] Galaxy Tab 10.1 VGA Adapter

I'm waiting for Galaxy Tab 10.1 to be released in order to buy one, but I need to know is there any idea if there is a VGA adapter to connect it to TV via VGA and display presentations on TV. I know that there is HDMI Adapter, but for iPAD2 there is a VGA adapter.
I really appreciates your help
AlienGhost said:
I know that there is HDMI Adapter
I really appreciates your help
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You could get an HDMI > DVI adaptor then use a DVI > VGA adaptor.
RaindancerAU said:
You could get an HDMI > DVI adaptor then use a DVI > VGA adaptor.
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Im not sure that would work.
There are (at least) 2 specs for DVI - DVI-A (Analogue) and DVI-D (Digital) .
HDMI > DVI-D is possible, but AFAIK, HDMI > DVI-A is not, since the output device (your Tab) would need to support analogue signals. For the same reason, you wouldn't be able use a HDMI > VGA adapter.
Im almost certain that the tab does not support analogue timings but you never know.
If it's for work and you're not spending your own money, see if they will buy a converter box for "all those people" who need to use it That's the only way to be sure it will work.
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Im almost certain that the tab does not support analogue timings but you never know.
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There already exists a cable that plugs into the Samsung proprietary port that outputs an analogue signal through a composite video connector (and stereo RCA plugs for audio). Samsung reps have confirmed that this cable, released for the original Galaxy Tab, will work 100% with the 10.1v and 10.1 (by implication probably the 8.9 too).
Composite to VGA won't work as it has different timings.
Best you can do is something that converts HDMI to VGA by some integrated solution, e.g., HDfury - HDMI to VGA cable, see their forum. Unfortunately you need another extra adaptor to fit the propriatory Galaxy connector. Plus extra power supply for the HDfury (and probably for the Galaxy Tab as well).
This is a deal breaker for all teachers and students that often have to show their content over VGA beamer. Bummer.
@pibach -> thanks for your input, clear, concise and accurate.
I'm on the market for a 10"/HC tablet that has "native" VGA output capability (as in dock connector<->VGA) that would not require an external/powered adapter.
Anyone knows of such rarity?
I have a tattoo/Click, Desire, Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab, so I'm totally addicted to Android. But failing this basic pre-requisite for Corporate environment is a fail in my book and would force me to put my money on the iPad2 despite the shortcomings(including the no-jailbreak current status). Don't get me wrong, I have no trolling intention: I have simple business needs that must be met...
So if you know of any such HC tablet, please let us know.
Cheers,
hal said:
@pibach -> thanks for your input, clear, concise and accurate.
I'm on the market for a 10"/HC tablet that has "native" VGA output capability (as in dock connector<->VGA) that would not require an external/powered adapter.
Anyone knows of such rarity?
I have a tattoo/Click, Desire, Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab, so I'm totally addicted to Android. But failing this basic pre-requisite for Corporate environment is a fail in my book and would force me to put my money on the iPad2 despite the shortcomings(including the no-jailbreak current status). Don't get me wrong, I have no trolling intention: I have simple business needs that must be met...
So if you know of any such HC tablet, please let us know.
Cheers,
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And you are not the only one. I'm getting 10.1v tomorrow, and hoping that there will be VGA adapter available one day. But for time being HDMI will do.
I just bought one too and I'm really pissed off there's no way to use it for work
even the ipad can output vga :S
i was able to get "something" using HP's hdmi -> vga adapter
Unfortunately, green was missing. Could have been the cable provided locally. If someone is successful in connecting to a VGA projector, let me know.
[Even with proper colors, the need for two dongles and AC power make the GT unsuitable for presentations.]
Anyone knows if Samsung or a 3rd party is working on something?
i'd really like to know that too...
hdmi to vga adaptors
check out HDFURY, expensive but probably good quality
I ended up taking a risk buying a $40 one from chinabuye @ chinabuye.com/hdmi-to-vga-and-3-5mm-audio-converter
works fine, been using it to connect my media player to a comp monitor.
hi guys,
can anyone confirm that there is no official/unofficial available vga adapter for the gtab 10.1?
options that I have seen are those that typically require a separate power supply, which defeats the purpose of having a tablet for mobility purposes.
appreciate any advice!!
unfortunately no, and it doesn't seem samsung is working on it :/
ceminino said:
unfortunately no, and it doesn't seem samsung is working on it :/
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wow.....that sucks.....
this really eliminates the Gtab 10.1 as a useful work/office companion since most enterprises still use vga projectors.....
thanks for the help...cheers.
exactly, I was planning to use it for presentations :/
Did anyone tried this adapter?
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computer/categories/cables/1/accessories/NP031AA%23ABA
It seems it doesnt have a power source, it would be portable enough if it was the case
Yes. I could get something on the projector. Colors were off. I didn't have the time to check all connections. But even if it were working, having to rely on AC to power the HDMI dongle makes little sense.
In a pinch, you may want to use http://app.mightymeeting.com/index.html . You'll need a local machine and decent internet connectivity, but you gain mobility in the room and might score wow-points. They have an android app but it doesn't work on honeycomb. You have to start the meeting through their website.
In real life it remains a risky proposition. I could get away with it (I teach. Easy to switch to local machine if something goes wrong), but would never rely on such setup for a conference or other high stakes presentation. I now routinely use mightymeeting with an iPad. MM can save a local version of the presentation file. Never failed. Extremely convenient.

[Q] Looking for a good Docking station for SGS2

Hi,
I am looking for a good Docking station for my SGS2. Any recommendations to buy in Germany? I live in Germany. The stores has the original from Samsung which costs 49Euros.
thx
I have the original one and it's really awesome. The only negative thing is that it can't sync files to your pc. But I use it as a charger / night clock. And it keeps the phone at a perfect viewing angle
Two questions:
Is there a little space left in the original dock, as i use a case which takes some additional space, 2mm on each side i guess.
And concerning syncing: Can´t you connect your device via dock at all or is there only a problem syncing it by Kies?
@TE: You can find the Original Samsung dock at mobilfun.de, I´m not allowed yet to post the link, quite a bit cheaper there and lots of other docks.
galaxyII said:
Hi,
I am looking for a good Docking station for my SGS2. Any recommendations to buy in Germany? I live in Germany. The stores has the original from Samsung which costs 49Euros.
thx
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Try the seach button there a few threads on these in here and will ship to Germany
Mr Wh!te said:
Two questions:
Is there a little space left in the original dock, as i use a case which takes some additional space, 2mm on each side i guess.
And concerning syncing: Can´t you connect your device via dock at all or is there only a problem syncing it by Kies?
@TE: You can find the Original Samsung dock at mobilfun.de, I´m not allowed yet to post the link, quite a bit cheaper there and lots of other docks.
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Nope, it will not fit with a case on
Can be found cheaper online that retail, like most things - but I highly recommend the official charging dock station and passive sound station dock.

Need this cable: Micro USB to 3.5mm & USB splitter

Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
blobotorian said:
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
indie said:
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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hobs0n said:
Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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That's totally proprietary. The phone that that is made for probably doesn't even have a 3.5mm jack.
biggy83 said:
Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
Your best bet for a single plug into your phone would probably be to use an MHL>HDMI adapter, and then get another adapter to convert from HDMI audio to 3.5mm.
That would be rather clunky though. HDMI > Anything (that isn't DVI) converters are going to run you at least about $40 for a start, and they aren't small either (probably not much smaller than the phone itself .) And they are externally-powered, so you'd need to provide power to both the MHL dongle and the HDMI converter, so it'd be super untidy.
You could do it though.
But you're probably better off using Bluetooth.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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My assumption comes from the fact that there is a "docking" option in the system settings of the Galaxy Note, meaning that there is support for docking stations and probably audio output for them.
I'm not saying that the Note is the only and first phone to have it, I'm just wondering if there are such cables out there and if such thing possible to be made through Micro USB.
I had an iPhone almost 2 years ago and such cable was available easily and it did really help in my car setup, and since the Note has the same slot setup of my old iPhone I would really like to know if a cable like that is somewhere out there.
Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
Hmmm, the both the official desktop dock and car dock have a 3.5mm audio out. It seems unlikely that there would be a USB DAC in the docks themselves, which suggests that analogue audio is being piped out the microUSB port on the phone itself.
Of course, the OP could just buy the official car dock to get nice tidy cabling...
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
gordonshowers said:
Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
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Exactly! I found out about this dock yesterday and I'm still wondering why isn't anything like of what I suggested earlier available? How come now one asked about this before!
zylor said:
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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That is exactly what I want!
Very Interested in this as well. OEM dock wont work with a case. So this would be a great alternative paired with a car cradle such as this.
biggy83 said:
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
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This:
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This:
$7 + Shipping
I too really want one of these.
It is obviously possible as the destop & car dock do this.
The only way is, for someone with some electronics knowledge to pull one of these apart to see how its done. It would be interesting to see if it is straight audio out, or if there is a "Digital to Analogue Converter in there"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5051243939125627988
This might do the trick in the unlikely case that Note's microusb outputs audio. Tough I'm really interested in knowing for sure if the Galaxy Note microusb pumps line level audio.
Judging by the price of the desktop dock i wouldn't bet my money on the idea that it has not a dac. I
Use Bluetooth.
maybe at usbfever.com or dealextreme.com
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http://www.cablejive.com/ maybe

Multimedia Dockingstation EDD-S20EWE

OTG & MHL finelly here :victory:
Multimedia Dockingstation EDD-S20EWE by Samsung new
I can only find it on the German samsung site?
SkillfulMmd said:
I can only find it on the German samsung site?
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and it comes out to be only $105. What a great deal
Photos
http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/...nes/EDD-S20EWEGSTD?subsubtype=docking-station
Only 89 euros
Would be sweet!.....if they cut that price in half.
nothing on samsung usa
I'm sure it'll hit Samsung USA within a month.
Hopefully this is a sign that the freakin multimedia car dock will be released soon as well.
CZ Eddie said:
I'm sure it'll hit Samsung USA within a month.
Hopefully this is a sign that the freakin multimedia car dock will be released soon as well.
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if this is anything like the desktop dock they have now in terms of design be prepared for broken usb port. happened to mine. the usb is the only thing holding it from moving front back/side to side. its not made specifically for any model just the galaxy family in general. such garbage coming from samsung.
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if this is anything like the desktop dock they have now in terms of design be prepared for broken usb port. happened to mine. the usb is the only thing holding it from moving front back/side to side. its not made specifically for any model just the galaxy family in general. such garbage coming from samsung.
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You have a point.
There is a workaround.
For example, with my S3 I have a slim case.
I bought an Ibolt car dock and a KiDiGi desktop....both with provisions to accommodate with/without a slim case specifically made for an S3.
YET...still, the fit was loose on the desktop and though tight on the Car dock, the grooves were too deep allowing too much screen to be obscured.
THE WORKAROUND...I sliced up some black super high density foam and created a BED inside the grooves of the docking stations so that it would be a much tighter and safer fit. Works perfect and hardly visible. (black on black) I simply glued the foam to the docks.
In my head, my imagination and I have designed docking stations with an adjustable base/sides that you SCREW SET into place according to the case that you are using for your S3. Is this such a hard thing to implement? Doubt it. Some of the Proclip car docks have a hint of this type of adjustability.
The price of this is way out of what it should be it's nothing new or special it's just eh dock with extended features I know its Samsung so you pay a premium price and it would match your device color but you would really have to want it to be a Samsung one at that price.
I mean conversion wise Euros are pretty much a straight conversion to GBP so let square it £90 for a dock that has OTG support and MHL that's just crazy.
Here is a link for all those interested: http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/...nes/EDD-S20EWEGSTD?subsubtype=docking-station
Careful, your post makes it seem like the US item is equivalent to the German item you also show. But the US dock is the regular one without HDMI and USB Host access.
Generally - it seems that most companies match the foreign purchase price in euros - to dollars when it eventually arrives in the US. In other words, when it gets released on the US website - I'd expect it to be around $80. I could be wrong, but I'm waiting to see if it arrives soon.
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The price of this is way out of what it should be it's nothing new or special it's just eh dock with extended features I know its Samsung so you pay a premium price and it would match your device color but you would really have to want it to be a Samsung one at that price.
I mean conversion wise Euros are pretty much a straight conversion to GBP so let square it £90 for a dock that has OTG support and MHL that's just crazy.
Here is a link for all those interested: http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/...nes/EDD-S20EWEGSTD?subsubtype=docking-station
and an American link: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D200BEGSTA
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sir, you are confused.
the "american link" is NOT the same device at all. it does not have OTG, nor does it have HDMI
your american link: charges, syncs, 3.5mm audio
the german link: charges, may sync, 3.5mm audio, HDMI out, USB host (for keyboards mouse, etc.)
HUGE difference.
SkillfulMmd said:
The price of this is way out of what it should be it's nothing new or special it's just eh dock with extended features I know its Samsung so you pay a premium price and it would match your device color but you would really have to want it to be a Samsung one at that price.
I mean conversion wise Euros are pretty much a straight conversion to GBP so let square it £90 for a dock that has OTG support and MHL that's just crazy.
Here is a link for all those interested: http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/...nes/EDD-S20EWEGSTD?subsubtype=docking-station
and an American link: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-D200BEGSTA
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Yeah...I just saw this dock the other day. It just hit the internet. Thanks for also showing the American link version. Black too. $50usd is not that bad really. Considering the wiring and outputs, it's priced ok in N.A. It is a generic solution...but I would simply compliment it with my foam trick from my previous post. You know, with the foam, you end up with a darn tight fit and a soft landing pad as a bonus.
UPDATE: oh...scarrmrcc and P0ll0L0c0 point out that it's not the same unit. Too bad. Don't feel bad. We all make mistakes.
You should edit your post accordingly.
it is spreading.. as a preorder:
http://www.expansys.com/samsung-multimedia-dock-for-galaxy-note-ii-white-237567/
http://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/pro...y-S3-Multimedia-Dockingstation-%2d-White.html
so, it is moving slowly in the direction of the US
in Germany, it costs €80....
http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/...nes/EDD-S20EWEGSTD?subsubtype=docking-station
I want to have this but ain't willing to pay such price...€30 to €40 cheaper should be ok...but the proud €80 is outrageous!!
I hope I can find similar cheaper products (copies) in amazon or ebay very soon.
Post edited sorry guys for the confusion I don;t know why that's called a multimedia dock as well?
I am holding on to my 50% off coupon code for this dock. I feel it combines allshare (when on ROMs with wired) and OTG capabilities. If I buy allshare, I might not be able to use AOSP roms.
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Post edited sorry guys for the confusion I don;t know why that's called a multimedia dock as well?
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samsung uses the term multimedia pretty darn loosely...
the US link gives 2 media: usb storage (as in it allows you to access the phone's memory) and audio. so tecnically, it is multimedia.. but I feel that is cheating.
the german one at the beginning of the thread, has one major difference in nomenclature: it is a docking station (unlike the the other, which is just a dock). as a docking station is it gives USB (storage. and access), HTMI out, OTG, audio.. the whole thing. (and uses the "smart mote" triggered by a 40.2kOHM resistor).
they deliberately make people think the items are more than they are...
Finally! Has anyone found a blue version available for pre-order?
HELP!!! Can the multimedia dock be compatible with other android+mhl+otg phones?
Hi, Can someone please tell me if the multimedia dock can be used with other android phones with MHL and OTG capability? For example the Zte V985 has a micro usb port and supports full MHL + OTG and is also android 4.0.4 so theoretically it should also work with the samsung multimedia dock?

Who's Interested in a Auto Dock?

I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver, with a standard 3.5mm audio output. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
Thank you everyone, in advance!
lorddralnu said:
I'm designing a dock for the N7v2 for use in a car. It will have Qi wireless charging and Bluetooth audio receiver. It should be compatible with most cases.
I am also currently designing a mounting method that should be close to universal between different cars, and should not fall off like most other docks in the market.
I designed one for the N7v1 using the Pogo pins, and I can never go back to not having a dock for my tablet in my car. It's amazing the difference it made for me.
I want to know a couple things.Please reply with the following template:
1. Would you want a dock like this?
2. How much do you expect to pay for it?
Thank you everyone, in advance!
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Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
rant said:
Sounds like a great idea. Do you have any links showing your work with N7v1? Heck, I may be interested in that version since the v1 tablet can be had for cheap these days and is more than capable for the limited functions needed in a car. At any rate:
1. yes, would be interested
2. no idea what a fair price would be, but $50-$100 seems like a fair ballpark
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I've attached 4 pictures of the dock I made for the first Nexus 7. You'll notice that it inst exactly a dock you can put in just any car. I realized I made a little too rugged... and big!
croques said:
I would think very carefully why you need a wireless charger in a car.
Heat kills batteries; tablets in cars get hot. Why add heat to your woes?
The tablet is likely to be busy playing music and navigating, often in full sunlight. Why add to the heating problems by using a wireless charger when a 5v cord charger attached to the car supply will do the trick?
The wireless car mount/charger iterations for the Nexus 4 were a failure, I recall.
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Well, that's why I don't leave the tablet in the car, I keep it with me. While I'm in the car, if it's hot out I will have the A/C on anyways, so heat has not been an issue.
Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that. Plugging in a device everytime I get in the car is partly to blame for such failures. I would have used Pogo Pins, like with the first Nexus 7, but they don't exist on the second.
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lorddralnu said:
Most of my broken devices are dead because the USB port broke because of wear and tear. One of the points of this dock is to reduce that.
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Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
croques said:
Look at active Brodit car mounts - say for a Nexus 4. There the device is supported and aligned as it glides onto or off the USB. There is no possibility of twisting or yawing.
I think your proposal maybe over-kill - simplest solutions are always best IMHO. A guy in the Nexus 4 forum came to no good end and had a lot of unhappy 'subscribers'. Just saying.
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I would normally agree. I was hoping to make one that doesnt require a case to be removed to use. I designed my previous dock the way you describe (except it used the Pogo pins on the side), but I always had to remove the case and eventually the first case was showing signs of damage from being removed so often.
My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
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My hope is that the base platform of the dock I want to build will be compatible with multiple models of smartphones and tablets that are Qi capable. That'll require a lot more planning, but may be worth it.
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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Well if you're set on the route you've described; ... I see you've picked up on the Peltier pump in another thread. Credit me somewhere if you make it!
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I think I will use a Peltier pump. And yes, I'll make sure you get credit for that idea I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
Hopefully the final product won't need a Peltier pump, but I will definitely have it in the prototype.
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But I might consider an approach made by Philips in an Android Bluetooth Speaker and dock. The adjustment for USB and its placement on an edge, plus 180 degree rotation needed for some models, was catered for physically. A much cheaper approach which copes with tablets and phones!
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I haven't had very good experiences with using that type of dock The results of daily use tend to be USB ports that are stretched and loose. At least that's how it has been in my experience.
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I'll mount the transmitting coil onto the cold side (probably with a layer of copper in between, we'll try several things) and have the hot side of the pump mounted to the aluminum/sheet metal of the back plate (probably with thermal paste as well). I'll have the pump on a simple thermostat. Good thing I have an EE helping me with this project
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Don't forget to talk to your EE about eddy current loses in any conductors (copper, aluminium) you have nearby to your induction coil.
Interesting read, but with the cooler this is going to be a very expensive dock. Without it, look to Canada for your market.
I rigged up one for my Nexus 4 last Winter. Based on some testing, I used the most efficient charger I could find for that phone (the LG wcp-700). It worked very well... until late spring when the mercury broke 70. To make a long story short, I pulled it last month as the phone was getting too hot. This in a suv with a 4 liter v6 with plenty of air conditioning, front and rear.
Without the cooler, the tablet needs to be located directly in front of a vent, or even in moderate climates the unit will get hot enough to significantly reduce charging current.
One more thing to consider... the Nexus 7 is polarized vertically. This means that it is invisible in landscape orientation for anyone wearing polarized driving glasses, which I am willing to bet is a large percentage of your prospective market (tech savvy, auto enthusiasts). Most displays designed for vehicles are polarized at 45°, making this not such an issue.
While the tinkerer, software developer, and electronic geek in me wanted a fully integrated tablet in my truck, I soon came to the conclusion that it was simply not practical. What is really needed is a properly done appRadio, where a head unit can mirror the display of a mobile device (ideally wirelessly - miracast, etc.) with a control link set up to pass touches on the head unit back to the mobile device. We're about 30% there now, but a lack of standards, and major players wanting proprietary solutions is a problem.
I wish you much success with your endeavor, but just wanted to share my experience and feelings that this will not be all that marketable a product.
The problems you had with the nexus 4 does not necessarily effect the nexus 7. The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging. I had a car setup with a qi charger with the lumia 920 and it worked great even in hot weather. I am not saying the nexus 7 will work, but it might.
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The nexus 4 was pretty terrible at wireless charging.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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What makes you say that? I ask as I have seen relatively similar performance with both the N7 and N4. The tricky thing about the N4 is that the coil is not centered in the vertical dimension, so for folks making the assumption that it is, there will be quite a bit of offset.
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I say that because of all the issues people had with car docks. It also had issues with the dt-900 qi chargers when it shouldn't have. It heated up excessively with most chargers.
I wonder if there will be an Official dock that lets you:
1. Charge
2. Expand TV HDMI out
3. USB port for Hard drive access
I really want the Nexus & FHD to be a Home entertainment player...may be a remote/ Or Kinect like gesture control app built in with the dock
Hope this comes true...it will be the best Combo for a home unit!

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