Wifi sleep policy with voice chat apps? - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

By default our wifi turns off as soon as the screen shuts off. This is great for battery life, but really bad when using things like google talk, skype, google voice, etc... to voice chat over the internet. As soon as the screen turns off, the voice chat cuts out due to the sleep policy.
Is there a simple app or setting to keep the wifi on while the screen is off, but only when using specific apps like google talk?

I think that Google Talk requires always on WiFi to work. If this is the case then it wouldn't make sense to turn off WiFi.
I had this issue while using aosp. WiFi isn't a huge killer anyway...maybe on the original incredible but not the dinc2
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you should be able to go into wifi settings and change the wifi sleep policy to stay on all the time.
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times_infinity said:
you should be able to go into wifi settings and change the wifi sleep policy to stay on all the time.
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But this would kill battery life. What I want is an app to basically automate this for me and turn the sleep policy off while in the middle of a chat and on when the chat is over.

I played around with the settings and noticed that checking the "best performance" wifi check mark really helps fix a lot of the voice over IP issues I was having. So maybe the issue is not so much with sleep policy as it is with the lower powered wifi.

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But this would kill battery life. What I want is an app to basically automate this for me and turn the sleep policy off while in the middle of a chat and on when the chat is over.
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Ive had my Wifi on all day and I have about 40 percent battery life left after 9 hours of heavy business use (lots of calls which kill battery much faster then WiFi.
Have you considered Tasker? It may help you in this way. Its about 6 bucks I think on the market...but I really dont think its necessary.
Quick Screenshot without the screen cause i am tired:
9h50m24s on battery
Voice 51%
Display 29%
Dialer 8%
WiFi 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
WiFi on isnt that much of a killer on this phone.

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tincbtrar said:
Ive had my Wifi on all day and I have about 40 percent battery life left after 9 hours of heavy business use (lots of calls which kill battery much faster then WiFi.
Have you considered Tasker? It may help you in this way. Its about 6 bucks I think on the market...but I really dont think its necessary.
Quick Screenshot without the screen cause i am tired:
9h50m24s on battery
Voice 51%
Display 29%
Dialer 8%
WiFi 5%
Cell Standby 4%
Phone Idle 3%
WiFi on isnt that much of a killer on this phone.
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Good point. Im going to enable the feature and instead of paying attention to the total battery life, im going to compare the wifi% before and after too see the difference.

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Juice Defender

I'm installing this as a last resort before sending my phone back. After hard reset and everything, battery is still a major drain.
For those that are using it, how well does it work? Which settings are you using?
I've only the free version for now but would consider upgrading if it does help?
Also, how do you prevent meebo from disconnecting when the screen turns off? Is that an option on the free version?
rwc3b said:
I'm installing this as a last resort before sending my phone back. After hard reset and everything, battery is still a major drain.
For those that are using it, how well does it work? Which settings are you using?
I've only the free version for now but would consider upgrading if it does help?
Also, how do you prevent meebo from disconnecting when the screen turns off? Is that an option on the free version?
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About Juice Defender, for me it worked with ~1.6x batterylife.
About Meebo: get Trillian, they made it for free this week. You stay connected even if your phone is off(for max of 1 day, changeable in settings) and you'll receive al the messages which came while your online the enxt time you login again. You can manage all your accounts on the PC with the regular Trillian program and then login on your phone with your Trillian account and all the accounts will be there. It is a real nice app with very low battery consumption.
The free version is very limited. I use the ultimate version and I'm rather happy with it. I don't want to schedule traffic when my phone is idle, but that would be a massive battery saver.
Yes, you can set different settings for each app in the paid versions. You can set a trigger that makes sure your internet is always on when meego is running, even when your screen is off.
But overall, I have no problem to use my phone for more than 12 hours on battery with moderate usage. Maybe you should send your device back anyway.
I had terrible battery drain as well but ive managed to resolve this. have you tried:
1. Deleting all social hub accounts?
2. Deleting your mail account if you use the stock mail app?
3. Updated to latest official firmware?
I was experiencing 10% idle drain per hour. Now i'm at 1-2%. Battery life is a huge improvement compared to my old desire. Dont guve up on this phone.
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In my experience standard battery drain per hour should be
1~2% screen off / data off
3~5% screen off / data on
12~15% screen on / data off
18~20% screen on / data on
WiFi uses less battery than 3g but as you can see display is main problem...
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TriNeo said:
I had terrible battery drain as well but ive managed to resolve this. have you tried:
1. Deleting all social hub accounts?
2. Deleting your mail account if you use the stock mail app?
3. Updated to latest official firmware?
I was experiencing 10% idle drain per hour. Now i'm at 1-2%. Battery life is a huge improvement compared to my old desire. Dont guve up on this phone.
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1. I froze all Samsung-related apps and accounts with Titanium Pro
2. I'm using the Gmail stock app. Is that bad?
3. I updated to KE2 and hard reset twice
4. I also froze the wifi apps
when my phone is idle overnight - screen off and not in 'awake', it dropped from 100%-56% in 7.5 hours. i posted a screenshot in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13875879&postcount=684
rwc3b said:
when my phone is idle overnight - screen off and not in 'awake', it dropped from 100%-56% in 7.5 hours. i posted a screenshot in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13875879&postcount=684
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Sounds like you need to clear your battery history, leave it over night, then check what's been using it overnight to me.
I have 5-10% drop at most overnight (7 hours or so).
Uvaavu said:
Sounds like you need to clear your battery history, leave it over night, then check what's been using it overnight to me.
I have 5-10% drop at most overnight (7 hours or so).
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thanks. how would i clear battery history? is that under setting -> applications -> running ?
Also try clearing data on the software update app. That appeared to work for some people. U definitely have a rogue app eating your battery... Can you give us a list of your running processes immediately after you restart?
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So after using Juice defender ultimate for a couple weeks now, with the customizable apps configuration, I see no improvement in battery life.
I lost 50% charge overnight with just push email on (stock gmail app), only synching email and contacts.
For those with this app, what configurations are you using to improve the battery?
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I have it setup to turn the data, and wifi off while the screen is off.
Night mode is enabled, from 11:30, to 7:00am
I also have it only allow wifi via location, work or home.
It eats 1-2% while in standby per hour.
and about 3-4% overnight.
i tried juice defender ultimate and it made no difference. I deleted it just because its another app working in the background...
I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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how did you set it up?
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mark2222 said:
I found it to be very effective when set up correctly. Lose less than 1% an hour at idle.
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Mine does that (1-2% per hour at idle) without Juicedefender and push email/facebook active. The problem with JD is also that when set to switch off Wifi and data in the background when the phone is idle, it doesn't always switch them back on after the phone awakens, resulting in many pain in the ass moments.
I bought it 6 months ago and never use it any more.
Richdog said:
The problem with JD is also that when set to switch off Wifi and data in the background when the phone is idle, it doesn't always switch them back on after the phone awakens, resulting in many pain in the ass moments.
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I use Green Power for that... simply awesome... light and stable.
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Vairn said:
I have it setup to turn the data, and wifi off while the screen is off.
Night mode is enabled, from 11:30, to 7:00am
I also have it only allow wifi via location, work or home.
It eats 1-2% while in standby per hour.
and about 3-4% overnight.
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hmm some people talks good, some bad about JD.
I paid for Ultimate version, and must say its brilliant!!
Over night 1-2% /6H
Standby 1-3% /Hour
with screenfilter i get 6 1/2 Hours with display on and UMTS today
from 78% drop to 10% and from 10% to 5% in 5Hours again.
Iam suprised with JD, very well
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how did you set it up?
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Pretty standard really wifi and mobile data enabled (ultimate version), autosync on ping, 15 minute scheduled check for 30s. I don't have it turn off data at night because the phone is usually plugged in and have data enabled when the screen is on. It also manages the wifi locations so usually it only connects to wifi.
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I use Green Power for that... simply awesome... light and stable.
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Hmm I'd never heard of that app, but did a bit of research and it looks like it really does wake the connections well with the latest release... will give it a try!
I lost 4%/idle for 12 hours.

Poor Battery Life

I am getting very poor battery life. Fully charged at 8am and dead by 5:30. Hardly even using it. I have a limited number of apps on, just a subset of those on my Nexus One and no rouge ones at all. Made a few calls, no web, a couple of gtalk posts and that is it.
See attached usage screen charge to dead and charging again!
The phone is useless like this... any ideas????
Are you in a building with poor reception? I noticed this issue when I left data on when my company moved buildings.
moa77 said:
I am getting very poor battery life. Fully charged at 8am and dead by 5:30. Hardly even using it. I have a limited number of apps on, just a subset of those on my Nexus One and no rouge ones at all. Made a few calls, no web, a couple of gtalk posts and that is it.
See attached usage screen charge to dead and charging again!
The phone is useless like this... any ideas????
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Is that solid blue bar from your WiFi being on all the time, or is that your awake bar on 100% of the time from a bad app?
That battery life looks atrocious. Show us the second screen to see the "awake" times.
martonikaj said:
Is that solid blue bar from your WiFi being on all the time, or is that your awake bar on 100% of the time from a bad app?
That battery life looks atrocious. Show us the second screen to see the "awake" times.
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The phone is now changed so, the history has gone! I'll do more screens tomorrow.
I am not sure what you mean by awake bar?
I keep wifi and bt on all the time, as I did on my old N1. I am in the same place in the day as I was with that and will have same reception, which is not bad.
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
Google Authenicator
Compass
ConnectBot
Currency Converter
ixMat Scanner
RealCalc
StopWatch
That's it, like I say a sub-set of those on my N1 and all solid apps.
I normally listen to mp3 on the N1, but have not had time on the Galaxy yet, so it;s getting less use.
moa77 said:
The phone is now changed so, the history has gone! I'll do more screens tomorrow.
I am not sure what you mean by awake bar?
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When clicking on the graph, there is a blue bar showing how often/when the phone is "awake", like in the screenshot I've attached.
I keep wifi and bt on all the time, as I did on my old N1. I am in the same place in the day as I was with that and will have same reception, which is not bad.
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do you keep mobile data turned on? if so, do you keep 3G turned on, or just 2G?
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
Google Authenicator
Compass
ConnectBot
Currency Converter
ixMat Scanner
RealCalc
StopWatch
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Get rid of the task killer!
Other than that, don't see anything crazy... This battery life is really strange. When your screen is using less power than the 'Android OS' it shows you're really not using the phone much, but the phone is still tanking on battery life.
I'll post those screen shots for today when I get home tonight.
A few things I have noticed though. It seems to level off at midday, this is when i leave work and go home for an hour. While at home I will be on wifi. I do not connect to wifi at work.
Secondly, while at work I notice my data often changes between "3G" and "H", while the phone is in the same place. Probably 60% H and 40% "3G". It is not practical to turn "2G" only on, as I get the volume bug and the phone becomes unusable.
I am wondering if the data signal is draining it somehow? If so, how can I work around that? Like I said, I have a N1 before the GN which sat in the same place on my desk every day and had no battery drain issue at all.
I unplugged mine yesterday at 7.30am and it died at 9pm
I used the internet on/of all day made a couple of calls and about 50 texts, screen on time was about 4 hours.
Today i've used it in a similar manner and as of now (3pm uk) 7 and a half hours in its on 57%
The battery in this thing is better than my desire, granted, not much in it but it will easily get a normal user from one sleep to another
Stret
moa77 said:
App installed are not strange at all;
Adobe Reader
Android Task Killer
AL Voice Recorder
Amazon MP3
Astro
Google Authenicator
Compass
ConnectBot
Currency Converter
ixMat Scanner
RealCalc
StopWatch
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No, it's strange you have a task killer on Ice Cream Sandwich. WTF? This isn't Eclair. Get rid of the damn task killer.
moa77 said:
A few things I have noticed though. It seems to level off at midday, this is when i leave work and go home for an hour. While at home I will be on wifi. I do not connect to wifi at work.
Secondly, while at work I notice my data often changes between "3G" and "H", while the phone is in the same place. Probably 60% H and 40% "3G". It is not practical to turn "2G" only on, as I get the volume bug and the phone becomes unusable.
I am wondering if the data signal is draining it somehow? If so, how can I work around that? Like I said, I have a N1 before the GN which sat in the same place on my desk every day and had no battery drain issue at all.
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I'd say with 95% certainty it's just signal-hunting causing the drain. With my Fascinate at work, I'll easily lose 50% battery within a couple of hours, even if I'm not using it, while at home it'll last me between 15-20 hours before getting low. Easiest solution is to just buy another charger for work, and leave your phone plugged in whenever it's on your desk.
Don't like seeing android os at the top of that list! Does the nexus share some of the problems that have plagued the galaxy s line of phones, the android os bug!? :O
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copkay said:
I'd say with 95% certainty it's just signal-hunting causing the drain. With my Fascinate at work, I'll easily lose 50% battery within a couple of hours, even if I'm not using it, while at home it'll last me between 15-20 hours before getting low. Easiest solution is to just buy another charger for work, and leave your phone plugged in whenever it's on your desk.
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I kind of think you might be right. However, a phone that drains itself while doing absolutely nothing useful at all, is no use to me. I carry it about and am in and out the office though out the day. It would be unworkable to keep putting it on charge every time I come back in the room. I need a phone I can carry around for a working day without charging. My old N1 did. If this can't do it I'll need to get short of it and get something more practical. Seems ridiculous though.
Btw, task killer just got installed by default when I upgraded. All the apps that were on the N1 were installed when I signed in. Just never deleted it
Do you leave your Wifi on all the time even if you don't have Wifi signal available? Don't do that.
If you are too lazy to manage your data connection manually all the time, I highly suggest getting the app Juice Defender from the market. You can save the battery by setting a schedule for data connection and also it will disable your wifi automatically if your phone can't find a wifi spot it can connect to.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Do you leave your Wifi on all the time even if you don't have Wifi signal available? Don't do that.
If you are too lazy to manage your data connection manually all the time, I highly suggest getting the app Juice Defender from the market. You can save the battery by setting a schedule for data connection and also it will disable your wifi automatically if your phone can't find a wifi spot it can connect to.
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Yes, I leave wifi and bt on. I want to be able to do this. I am not asking for it to run for days. 1 full day is all, I have not issue charging every night.
I could look at the juice monitor, however, it does not seem too much to ask to be able to get 1 full day from it of average use. To me, it seems perfectly reasonable to expect the device to work for a full day with all services running.
Is there any tool than can be used to prove that the signal hunting is eating the power? Currently is seem to be in the big pot called "Android OS"??
Well, I'm not gonna defend the phone. Leaving all radio processes on, especially when there is no signal available, is well known to drain a lot of battery since the phone uses more power to search for available networks than when it has a stable connection to one. If you leave it on in a place with spotty or no signal it will make the problem worse.
Juice Defender (the basic one anyway) is free and pretty much manages the connections for you and basically extends your battery life with minimal effort. Give it a go for a couple if days.
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I strongly agree with chrono.
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+1 with Chrono.... Turn off Wifi completely if you are not using it.
if you are a new android user, you should also check the settings of the phone:
hit *#*#4636#*#* in the dialpad.
this will bring up a menu. there you should try phone (i think, my n1 got stolen a while ago). there, you scroll down and there is a menu to adjust the preferred network mode.
if it's set to CDMA preferred, it will search for a cdma single. you just adjust it (i think) to gsm only. google will help you a bit here.

Tips and tricks: improve JB idle battery life.

Confirm the following option is unchecked:
Maps/Settings/Location settings/Report from this device.
If it is checked, uncheck it.
Here's the difference in battery life -
About half the battery drain with the option unchecked.
Thanks for the tip
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It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
ReapersDeath said:
It looks exactly the same lol. Just one was running on battery longer than the other?
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What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
I updated my phone to JB and followed the battery saving measures and the battery is dropping very quickly.
Before it could last up to 3 days in standby, now I'll be surprised if it lasts 8 hours.
I'll give it another day then try a factory reset if it does not improve.
Anybody else seeing this?
I have watchdog on the phone and it shows zero cpu off time.
Just install better battery stats, there is also a way to dump the same info in terminal but I don't use it. You are looking for alarms apps cause. It's most likely maps, followed by talk, exchange client, or anything like Twitter, FB,g+,stocks.... but most likely maps location settings
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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I have been doing a lot of research and the end result is that JB out of the box will eat your battery and yes disabling the settings under maps does in fact help a lot but there is a lot more you can do to get good life... for starters get the simple stuff out of the way, DELETE FACEBOOK MOBILE APP!!!...and twitter and anything that actively accesses the internet in the background... I know this may sound taxing but it is so worth it if yiu just make a bookmark in your browser and view it periodically than have an always active app... next if you are not in a primarily lte covered area set your phone to cdma only... go into settings and go to data usage and here you can see what is using data in the background I.e. facebook... and go there and check the restrict app box.., disable auto brightness and some have said that if you disable sprint connection manager thing you can do even more.... now that one I cannot be sure about I will post results in the coming days of what I find
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You are pretty much correct the FB app sucks but I never really had much problems with it.
A lot of these tips though in general (not directed towards you) are stupid.
Like someone said a while ago I refuse to gimp my phone to sip a little bit more life out of it. What's the use of having a smartphone if you're not going to use it like one.
I always have high brightness unless its dark out. I broke my syncs intervals up to about 4 hours per sync and have push notifications from twitter and weather.
With those apps all I have to do is refresh when I enter the app having those syncing all the time is worthless unless you're constantly checking every 10 seconds.
I say I get fairly decent battery life granted I'm on wifi most the time and 7-8 hours with about 2 hrs screen on playing HD games youtube poweramp and my background processes.
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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Also even though you are disabling sone of these apps like google now.... you can still use it your just turning off the background nonsense
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OZGBLACK said:
Well in regards to the act of extending the life of your battery these are simply tips that you can utilize in the event you are someone who is out for extreme amounts of time.... I average anywhere from 13 to 17 hrs of battery life with 100% brightness, wifi 3g all of my favorite apps... instagram xda kik kindle Skype etc. And 5 to 6 hrs of screen on time. .. so these gimping tactics more than double my phones live time and doubles my life.... but hey if you can get to a charger after 8hrs by all means but for the most part I cannot until after 13 but i do in fact appreciate your incite
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what rom and kernel are u using
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
nabbed said:
What are you talking about? Did you zoom in to see screen on/awake usage? Both are about 7.5 hours of idle time.
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Oh wow. Sorry from my phone I couldn't zoom in. I see now lol. Thought I saw 90 and 89 or something like that
I had the Maps setting turned off for a few days and also had A LOT of stuff disabled, but unfortunately my battery life (and my wife's as well) wasn't as good as ICS, and quite a bit worse actually.
Sadly, today, it looks like I figured out what the killer is:
Google Now.
This morning, 100% charged, I turned it off. My wife (who still had it on) and I were out and about together for about four hours, we both barely used out phones for that time. When we got home I checked both phones: I was at 96%, she was at 80%.
The only difference that I hadn't already accounted for:
Google Now.
So, unfortunately, it looks to me like one of the two biggest reasons for wanting JB in the first place (Butter being the other of course) turns out to be a big battery hog I don't yet know if there's maybe some setting within it that is a specific problem or if it's the whole thing in general... maybe you just need to disable a card or change an update frequency or something (I didn't touch any so I'm running whatever the defaults are), I don't know yet... but all indications are that's where the problem lies.
That, my friends, sucks.
Well since my phone has calmed down I am getting 13-16 hr easily. Brightness maxed of course and about 4-6 screen on time I will never cripple my phone. Hell I bought it so I can use not to look at. Lol thanks for the post of this though if I'm ever I. A die hard , situation I'll know what to do
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Orbiting234 said:
Even with changing that setting in Maps I still am not getting the same battery life as I did with ICS. Maps is still coming up as my most used app when I check battery usage even though I rarely use it. Wonder if it may be Google Now causing Maps to keep running.
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Google Now uses the "Report from this device" and "Enable location history" maps location settings to determine your driving patterns so it can suggest alternative routes and report traffic delays. Disabling "Enable location history" will disable the driving pattern suggestions completely.
FWIW Settings | More settings | Mobile networks | Network mode
Changing from "CDMA" to "LTE / CDMA" has gained me better battery life. My wife also noticed the same.
(To save time, I'm cutting & pasting my post from another similar thread.)
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963689&page=3
"I have had my Galaxy S3 for a week now. Battery life stabilized after the initial syncing, etc. I updated to Jelly Bean v4.1.1 two days ago, and battery life didn't seem noticeably different. However, that was until today. My phone was off of the charger, around 10AM, and had < 5% charge by 4:30PM. I was very busy, so I was hardly using the phone all day. It was in my pocket or on my desk most of the time. One of the only settings I changed last night, was enabling 'Use wireless networks' and enabling 'Location and Google search' under 'Location Services' in 'Settings'. I just disabled both settings, and will see if the battery drain is any less tomorrow. Also, Google Now was off, and was never enabled on my phone. I'll try to post the results, if at all possible..."
So, for me, it seems to be Location Services may have caused my poor battery life, and was definitly not Google Now, as it was never enabled. I'll try using the phone with the settings off, and see if that changes anything...
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Stock stock stock jellybean ota... that's it
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I do love Jelly Bean; as it is ICS only improved or enhanced. But battery life has definitely taken a hit. I can barely make it through 24 hrs. On ICS I could do a day and a half to two days with really light use. I've tried just about everything mentioned with little change. Good thing I have an extra battery. Thank you Samsung for making a phone with a user replaceable battery.
Thanks for all the ideas/suggestions anyways,
El Mono
I noticed the huge difference as well. I was walking around Chicago yesterday and not using my phone. After 4 hours I looked and my battery was at 50 %.
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Device Sleep Battery life

First night device sleep not so good on AT&T version .
7 Hour of sleep lost 1% an hour , with Sprint version 2%-3% is used in that time frame.
I'm going install app to monitor tonight sleep session see whats eating energy.
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First night device sleep not so good on AT&T version .
7 Hour of sleep lost 1% an hour , with Sprint version 2%-3% is used in that time frame.
I'm going install app to monitor tonight sleep session see whats eating energy.
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Exactly the case with mine. However I have every sensor and sync option checked (if that matters). But it did drop 6% in 6 hours.
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Same here...but yesterdays battery life was remarkable...over 7 hours on with over 4 hours of screen on time at full brightness.
I'm thinking Quick Glace setting enabled is the drainer.
Feature is much more sensitive on ATTs.
hmm maybe higher sleep CPU level on ATTs
Sprint GN2 has whats called wakeup lag. When you wake device display has good 2-3 sec delay before turning on.
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I'm thinking Quick Glace setting enabled is the drainer.
Feature is much more sensitive on ATTs.
hmm maybe higher sleep CPU level on ATTs
Sprint GN2 has whats called wakeup lag. When you wake device display has good 2-3 sec delay before turning on.
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That happens to be one option that was off last night... so that cant be it
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During 7 hours of sleep I got 7 emails
The one gps hit is no big deal but 3 of 7 marked in shot are much to active.
Same thing for me. Went to bed at midnight with 92%. woke up at 8am with 84%. 1% per hour. Hopefully someone can figure out how to slow this down. Otherwise, battery life seems fantastic
Wifi remains strong no cut outs during gmail sync so we can rule 0ut connection issue.
It appears Google sync is to busy on 3 marks shown in shot so I'm going to disable everything except Gmail & contacts in sync setting.
Hopefully that will be fix
Drained 2% in 9 hours last night with 2 push email accounts (on exchange and one gmail) and gtalk connected. LTE signal at about -90 and WiFi connected.
Seems reasonable to me.
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Drained 2% in 9 hours last night with 2 push email accounts (on exchange and one gmail) and gtalk connected. LTE signal at about -90 and WiFi connected.
Seems reasonable to me.
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yeah that's how it should be.
As my screen shot shows there is 7 deep sleep wakeup points.
7 emails received , 7 wakeups shown with 3 of them being way to active.
Now the question is why.
Maybe a 3rd party app kicks in gear when email received.
Only thing I have on board is Fancy Widget with auto update disabled during that time frame
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Drained 2% in 9 hours last night with 2 push email accounts (on exchange and one gmail) and gtalk connected. LTE signal at about -90 and WiFi connected.
Seems reasonable to me.
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I'm getting similiar to this. Tested 2 nights now and in 10 hours I'm dropping 2%. Multiple emails syncing, weather, Google Talk connected. Great usage battery life too.
In the "screen on" screenshot, live wallpaper active, 4 hours of Bluetooth music, brightness 80%, Web browsing and gaming heavy with 40ish minutes of phone calls and 30 minutes of GPS navigation. I hit 6h screen on time and 24h 32min unplugged when the battery finally died. That is stellar.
Also I'm in a LTE area, usually 4 bars signal strength but throughout my day I do leave LTE coverage multiple times. (I travel a lot)
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Not sure if this applies to anyone else but last night I removed several Bloat apps before going to bed. I did NOT restart the phone. From doing this caused my phone to not sleep the whole night. Woke up this morning and restarted the phone. Phone went right to sleep after doing this.
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I'm getting 1% drain a hour which is better then my note 1s 3%. Anyone using juice defender? Seems like battery life will be so much better then my note 1, I haven't both red to install it yet
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Ok second day of sleep testing.
This time my toy is running Modded N7105ZHALJ4 MultiWindow rom with no 3rd party app installed.
Google sync active with 1 email received during sleep period.
Accuweather widget at 3 hour update interval .
Wifi enabled.
I'm still getting the 1% drain but this time only 1 email was received during 7hr sleep period so I can rule that out as being cause.
What the heck is waking up device lol
The AWAKE activity shown in screen shot should not be happening.
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That small period showing Screen On I checked email device was awake maybe 90 seconds.
But from that point as you can see lots of activity happening that shouldnt
Maybe the small awake times are to check email, check weather, update Google now, Facebook, basically anything that is a widget or has check intervals for updates.
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Maybe the small awake times are to check email, check weather, update Google now, Facebook, basically anything that is a widget or has check intervals for updates.
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nah only thing running in background is Gmail & accuweather.
Gmail remains silent lights up sleep on push , seeing only one email was received that can be ruled out as problem.
Accuweather at 3 hour update interval so we can rule that out as well.
On Sprint version I had all kinds of background apps running during sleep , 15 emails receved and would lose 3-4% in 9 hour sleep session so somethings not playing well on ATT version.
I stopped by ATT store today ran across GN2 owner thats having same sleep issue like many in this thread
Turn on airplane mode and test it. 3g/H+ will cause it.
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Turn on airplane mode and test it. 3g/H+ will cause it.
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Its been sleeping wifi enabled during testing.
Tonight I'm going to test with network.
What's keeping my device awake? What wakes it up to begin with?
BetterBatteryStats.
Search for it on XDA and you'll find that XDA members get a free version. While it won't give you better battery usage, it will tell you WHY your battery is being used by something else.
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What's keeping my device awake? What wakes it up to begin with?
BetterBatteryStats.
Search for it on XDA and you'll find that XDA members get a free version. While it won't give you better battery usage, it will tell you WHY your battery is being used by something else.
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Better battery stats is a great program, highly recommended from me too.
Not sure what the sleep problem is. I've maintained the 2ish% drop in 10ish hours of sleep. Great battery life still. Do you have NFC or Sbeam turned on? They have been known to sometimes cause battery drain and not show up as "awake" when looking at battery stats. Try toggling them in settings even if they are off and see if that makes any impact.
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[Q] Rapid Battery Life depletion during sleep

Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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go to settings/power/usage. this will tell you which app is using the most of you battery. also you should never have gps on while youre sleeping. you might also want to turn off auto-sync and then re-enable it after you wake up. you can create a widget to do just that. if you need help with that, just let me know.
Turn data Wi-Fi and gps off lol.... You are asleep
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nscian12 said:
Hey XDA friends. I got the Verizon HTC One a few weeks ago and battery life started out fantastic. When I put away to go to sleep it only lost 7% all night with GPS on and wifi on and all that and I was astonished. However as time went on I found those results kept getting worse and worse until I was draining 30% in a night. I went and uninstalled battery guru and now I only drain 12% a night. Some nights however I still lose 20% in a night with sleep mode on. How do I check what keeps waking my phone up and draining my battery. I'm afraid this will affect my phone's battery in the long run. I will start disabling GPS at night but I wish I still had that 7% in a night. How do I check what is messing with my phone???
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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Do you use blinkfeed, that will kill your battery pretty fast. Even if you don't think you are using it, go check and see if it's syncing anything in the settings. I thought mine was turned off, but then I logged into facebook (turned sync off in facebook), later I found that blinkfeed was syncing it anyway w/out my knowledge.
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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you cant turn blinkfeed off...
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You can go into settings and make sure everything is unchecked. Mine had several checked by default and it was draining battery.
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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airplane mode...
Really, 1% per hour on standby with cellular radios on is pretty acceptable. Depending on signal strength, the radio could be pulling that just to maintain a connection to the tower.
Thanks everyone!
With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
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With GPS off, Sleep mode on, and NO BATTERY HELPER APPS (Battery guru was diminishing my battery life) I got a record breaking (for me) 4% loss in battery life during my 8 hour night's sleep, not bad if I do say so myself, after that my battery has been a lot better. I wish Verizon would give us HTC's battery saving software back but let's not ask too much of Verizon or they might give us timely updates.
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Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
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Glad to hear this!!
those battery saving apps are so pointless IMHO, it's just another app and if coded incorrectly will do exactly what it did to you, destroy your battery that is working fine. very happy you can now enjoy your phone the way was designed to be!
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Thanks! unfortunately I don't root my phones but for now the One does what I need it to perfectly and seamlessly
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Update: Battery only drained 10% last night with GPS off, Blinkfeed never updates on its own and all social networks are checked off (I don't like my social networks on Blinkfeed) other than that though everything seems to be in check. If anyone else has anyway to improve that 10% let me know (by the way the 10% was drained during 9 hours of constant sleep I went from 77 to 67)
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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
similar problem here....google services is killing my battery (relatively). location is part of it, but google hangouts is also going crazy (watchdog alerts me to excessive usage....over 50%, but hangouts was at 100%)
i was spoiled on my g-nex, where i left wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7 and could easily go 24 hours. now i'm lucky to get 12 (with about 1 hour of screen on time).
I'm hoping things will sort out, device is only about a week old, but google optimized location usage (iirc) such that it isn't supposed to constantly ping and kill battery. we shall see, i guess.
I'm not sure what the problem could be but I'm just gonna say that yesterday I got around 18 hours of battery life with over 5 hours screen on time which I consider awesome battery life.
I'm stock, so it's definitely possible to get good battery life.
10 percent overnight? Thats not that great but not horrible. My dna is running carbon (android 4.3) I use tasker to turn off autosync and data/wifi and put it on silent at whatever set time I make it. My phone drains about 5 percent max overnight, usually a lot less.
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Hey..I had the same problem so...first download wakelock detector from play store..after installing jus use your phone like as usual..after 4 to 5 hrs or right before you charge your phone, open the wakelock app and check what's waking up your phone during sleep..for everyone it seems the battery is drained by Google services ..the main culprit being the location services.. so switch off the location services in settings..and also in Google maps, go into setting and then into Google location settings and make sure location reporting and location history are disabled, make sure they are unchecked.. that's it..restart the phone..fully charge it and test it out ..and DON'T use any battery saving apps ..and also uninstall wakelocker app after your battery life is back to normal..I'm an average user and I unplug around 9 in da morning and when I come home around 6, I still have 65% left..I don use facebook .. heard even facebook app is major battery drainer....you jus have to tweak and play with settings till you find your desired battery life expectancy cos everyone uses their phone differently..and we all have different apps so the main thing is to find out what's eating the phone battery most...I'm just pleased with my decision in picking HTC ONE over galaxy S4
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you can turn off updates in facebook and its not bad, but yeah if you have autoupdate on, it can kill the battery.
as far as the OP, I don't get why you don't charge you phone while you are sleeping. Seems like the perfect time.
Turning GPS off shouldn't affect your battery life. If you're not using your phone, the phone isn't going to use the GPS for anything. So it shouldn't be using your battery. The culprit is usually an app that is wakelocking your phone. So you need to find which app it is that constantly wakes your phone from deep sleep. Turning off autosync would help a bit if you are really paranoid. The big thing that hurts our battery when the screen is off, is the LTE radio, but most people are connected to WiFi when they sleep so it's not a big deal.
Just an FYI, turning off GPS has been ineffective since 2.2 Froyo. When Gingerbread 2.3 was released like 2+ years ago, it allowed for the GPS to only be used when an app called for it to be used. Otherwise GPS will not do anything unless you pull up an app that calls it to do something.

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