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I got myself into a interesting situation. A quick answer would be greatly appreciated:
1. I'm rooted.
2. Trying to install the OTA so I can run 2.2 the right way.
3. I started a thread asking for help because I was confused on unrooting my phone. Didn't get much help, a quick flame, and last someone chimed in to install the OTA from Rom Manager. I asked if I could do this with Root and the thread was killed.
4. I did. The boot screen was the new one. But the radio wasn't updated.
5. I then attempted to unroot my phone. Followed the PB31IMG.zip method. Phone booted normally. Root was lost.
6. This is where I am now.
7. My question is, if I install the OTA now renamed update.zip on my SD card, will I run the chance of bricking my phone because I installed it once from Rom Manager while I had root (#3/#4)??????
Please advise so I don't MOD EDIT up my phone.................
And if you're going to flame and insist I should of just followed the 2.2 leak instructions, you're correct. But I took someone's quick answer and tried it assuming they knew a better method.
mapko11 said:
I got myself into a interesting situation. A quick answer would be greatly appreciated:
1. I'm rooted.
2. Trying to install the OTA so I can run 2.2 the right way.
3. I started a thread asking for help because I was confused on unrooting my phone. Didn't get much help, a quick flame, and last someone chimed in to install the OTA from Rom Manager. I asked if I could do this with Root and the thread was killed.
4. I did. The boot screen was the new one. But the radio wasn't updated.
5. I then attempted to unroot my phone. Followed the PB31IMG.zip method. Phone booted normally. Root was lost.
6. This is where I am now.
7. My question is, if I install the OTA now renamed update.zip on my SD card, will I run the chance of bricking my phone because I installed it once from Rom Manager while I had root (#3/#4)??????
Please advise so I don't MOD EDIT up my phone.................
And if you're going to flame and insist I should of just followed the 2.2 leak instructions, you're correct. But I took someone's quick answer and tried it assuming they knew a better method.
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Wat is the hboot versoin?
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Where do I find that out?
mapko11 said:
Where do I find that out?
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In the bootloader it should say.
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Hboot-0.79.0000
mapko11 said:
2. Trying to install the OTA so I can run 2.2 the right way.
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Well, "the right way" would be to wait for the actual OTA. Verizon would also have your back if you brick. But, anyway...
If you're still on the 1.00.03.04.06 radio, you can probably follow the instructions in that thread now that you've flashed back to the stock ROM. However, there still seem to be a few cases of people bricking their phones or being stuck in a bootloop after flashing leaks.
If you are confused/concerned/afraid of bricks then you just shouldn't flash the leaked OTA. This is not a flame, this is sound advice. Wait for the real one.
I'm fine with flashing. I just keep hearing about this "double install OTA and brick your phone" issue and I'm trying to avoid doing that. If the one guy didn't chime in with the suggestion to use ROM Manager, I wouldn't of had this issue.
My radio is still 1.00.03.04.06. I just want to make sure I don't run a risk of bricking.
If the hboot updated, i would say not to apply again. If it didnt update then i would say to see what happens, but dont take my word for it 100%
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jdkoreclipse said:
If the hboot updated, i would say not to apply again. If it didnt update then i would say to see what happens, but dont take my word for it 100%
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How do I know if the HBOOT has been updated? I posted my version above?
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How do I know if the HBOOT has been updated? I posted my version above?
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The 79 hboot is the updated one. I would use caution in re flashing the ota.
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jdkoreclipse said:
The 79 hboot is the updated one. I would use caution in re flashing the ota.
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Anyway to undo this and go back?
mapko11 said:
Anyway to undo this and go back?
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Try the PB13IMG.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Try the PB13IMG.
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And you needed to un root before applying the ota
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The 79 hboot is the updated one. I would use caution in re flashing the ota.
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I personally have had a .77 HBOOT since I got my phone in April. My mom's phone, on the other hand, had the .79, which she has had since May, and she sure as hell didn't have no 720p camcorder. I don't think that the OP's phone having .79 means with any certainty that the OTA already applied once. I think the radio version listed on the HBOOT screen would be a better indicator.
But absolutely, running the PB13IMG should ensure that he's as far back as he can go, so why not try it just to be safe...
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Try the PB13IMG.
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That's what I just did before I posted this thread. I installed the PB13IMG and restored everything back to stock. You asked about the HBOOT version and that's .79. I'm comfortable flashing and doing the update. What should HBOOT say? Has anyone successfully updated the OTA from .79 HBOOT?
Thank you for the help. Sorry for the questions. I completely comfortable with rooting, flashing roms, and kernals. This is going back to unroot stock is just new.
I want to install the OTA and I'm good to go. Just making sure it's safe now....
alexdw369 said:
I personally have had a .77 HBOOT since I got my phone in April. My mom's phone, on the other hand, had the .79, which she has had since May. I don't think that the OP's phone having .79 means with any certainty that the OTA already applied once. I think the radio version listed on the HBOOT screen would be a better indicator.
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Thats a high possibility that hboot means nothing in this scenaroi, but im not gonn. Be risky with someome elses phone. I only provide methods of doing things that i would use on my phone too.
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Thats a high possibility that hboot means nothing in this scenaroi, but im not gonn. Be risky with someome elses phone. I only provide methods of doing things that i would use on my phone too.
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Agreed, however, I noticed after running the PB13IMG, my HBOOT was also .79, which could have only come from the PB13IMG since I hadn't tried to do the OTA yet. Just trying to add pieces to the puzzle to get a better picture for future reference...I'm sure this guy wont be the last to ask...
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Agreed, however, I noticed after running the PB13IMG, my HBOOT was also .79, which could have only come from the PB13IMG since I hadn't tried to do the OTA yet. Just trying to add pieces to the puzzle to get a better picture for future reference...I'm sure this guy wont be the last to ask...
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I appreciate the help guys. I guess my question would be if I ran PB13IMG, lost my root, back to stock, my HBOOT is .79 and my radio is still 1.00.03.04.06 and not 2.05.00.06.11, I should be at the same point as everyone else for installing the OTA from my SD card. Right or wrong?
When you read these threads and people are installing the OTA twice and bricking, are they installing the OTA again when the radio is already updated to 2.05.00.06.11?
Yep. I think you can flash it again, but be real cautious, as this is your second time flashing it, but if the radio is still the old versoin, you should be safe.
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Have anyone ever uprooted their HTC EVO phone and took it to Sprint and did Sprint know that your phone was rooted before??
Nope
They don't find out if you full unroot it
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I had my volume button replaced running cm7 (s-off). The tech knew instantly. He said his phone was rooted so he knows my mine was lol. He did mention that there's nothing they can do about root unless they have to give you a refurb or replacement on spot that's about it.
They hook it up to a computer so if you're rooted they'll know but if you unroot they will never know...
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Ooh ok cool lol cause it bout time I get another phone and was worry I won't cause I'm rooted?
Any of you guys know the best way to unroot ur phone I rooted mines with unrevoked... If know that helps :-/ ??
And how will you know if ur fully unrooted....????
Jcki4 said:
And how will you know if ur fully unrooted....????
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Yeah give me 1 min ill post the unroot link. Once you unroot they will NEVER know you tampered with your phone. Make sure it says s-on im bootloader. If it still says s-off you're still rooted.
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And how will you know if ur fully unrooted....????
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Here's the unroot link. If you're running the latest GB 5.02 radio/baseband you need to downgrade to the 11.19 radio from 2.2 or s-on won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
And here's where you will find the link to downgrade your radio to the 11.19 version. This needs to done before you unroot with the link above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
When you unroot don't accept Any updates or OTA if your phone tells you to.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Here's the unroot link. If you're running the latest GB 5.02 radio/baseband you need to downgrade to the 11.19 radio from 2.2 or s-on won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
And here's where you will find the link to downgrade your radio to the 11.19 version. This needs to done before you unroot with the link above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
When you unroot don't accept Any updates or OTA if your phone tells you to.
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Very Nicely Done!
Jcki4 said:
Have anyone ever uprooted their HTC EVO phone and took it to Sprint and did Sprint know that your phone was rooted before??
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Just took my EVO to a Sprint store last week and got the screen replaced runing cm7 they never said a word about it.
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Thank you guys so much I really appreciate it if I have any problems ill let you guys kno if I can't find post bout it on here lol
Jcki4 said:
Thank you guys so much I really appreciate it if I have any problems ill let you guys kno if I can't find post bout it on here lol
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I'm a little late to the party, but I have done this a couple times to get a new phone. I have never had a problem, can tell you the only possible way that they would ever know like everyone else said is if you have S-OFF.
Lol cool so would I have to like switch roms again? Nd stuff cause every time I take my phone into Sprint I switch back to the standard look of the phone lol like after I just rooted my phone
Guys i get a "Main version is older" error when I try to install PC36IMG. and i am still rooted i guesss cause i can still use the tether and the superuser still actually work and the s-on said s on ???
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Guys i get a "Main version is older" error when I try to install PC36IMG. and i am still rooted i guesss cause i can still use the tether and the superuser still actually work and the s-on said s on ???
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You need to use an RUU that matches your bootloader, or get s-on from the unrevoked zip you flash in recovery, then flash a 3.70 PC36IMG RUU.
Jcki4.....Just keep in mind, that if for any reason your device gets swapped out by them not fixing it or what have you....you will more likely get a GB 2.3.3 updated device with a locked bootloader. NO root options with that at the moment...until someone exploits it, HTC updates OTA, or unrEVOked is updated to include Hboot 2.16. I myself have learned my lesson the hard way....and patiently I wait....
alpharevx.nl/x/beta
Pre Release 2 claims support for Incredible 2 HBOOT version 0.97.
Check your bootloader version before attempting.
This day has been long in the making!
seriously throw a shoe at me if this is a troll / noob question. i'm sure it is
but if my gb build is hboot .97 am i good to go for the alpha beta or is this still 2.2 only !?!!?!?!?
* crawls back under bridge of uncertainty
The very first thread on this subforum warns you not to update if you want root.
just wondering how do we get back to s-on if we need to go back
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just wondering how do we get back to s-on if we need to go back
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A method to get back s-on is usually released some time after. I think we can assume it'll come.
as mentioned by jcase, if you upgraded to GB using RUU OTA whatever, no alpharevX for u. XTC clip is ur only option.
ACD168 said:
as mentioned by jcase, if you upgraded to GB using RUU OTA whatever, no alpharevX for u. XTC clip is ur only option.
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ah yes. memory of a fruit fly these last few days !
You need at least temp-root to S-Off via Alpharev. If you ignored repeated warnings to not upgrade to GB, then you're out of luck for now. Sorry...spend your money on an XTC clip.
I feel sorry for people who start getting incredible 2s with GB pre installed
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That would be me...
Hoping they find an exploit..
I WANT S-OFF!!!!
xgunther said:
You need at least temp-root to S-Off via Alpharev. If you ignored repeated warnings to not upgrade to GB, then you're out of luck for now. Sorry...spend your money on an XTC clip.
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Now, just so I'm clear (not my first Android device so I'm not wholly new, but it is my first HTC), if I used alpharevx to get S-OFF, I will remain that way even if I went OTA to GB, I just would be unable to root? Is that correct?
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validoption said:
Now, just so I'm clear (not my first Android device so I'm not wholly new, but it is my first HTC), if I used alpharevx to get S-OFF, I will remain that way even if I went OTA to GB, I just would be unable to root? Is that correct?
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I think if you s-offed while on froyo then did the ota, you should still be able to root
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cloiselle said:
seriously throw a shoe at me if this is a troll / noob question. i'm sure it is
but if my gb build is hboot .97 am i good to go for the alpha beta or is this still 2.2 only !?!!?!?!?
* crawls back under bridge of uncertainty
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Once gingerbread is rooted I believe we could get soff.
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bik2101 said:
I think if you s-offed while on froyo then did the ota, you should still be able to root
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ohhh how wrong you are
why would you accept the OTA and risk it. 99% it will take you to S-ON and ur stuck on gb with no way to re-root. just use the rooted OTA ROM...
shoman24v said:
Once gingerbread is rooted I believe we could get soff.
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Other way around buddy. S-off leads to root
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how come everytime i type in the beta key it says invalid?
& what do i put in the serial number?
sorry its my first time doin this..
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Other way around buddy. S-off leads to root
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right.... but the bootloader has not changed since the ota gb, so now we need an exploit for gb in order to do s-off.
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marcviado said:
how come everytime i type in the beta key it says invalid?
& what do i put in the serial number?
sorry its my first time doin this..
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You well get a key generated only after you type in your serial number from the device. Its unique and will be good for that one time. You will need to keep the internet browser window open during the process.
If you turn of the internet it will not work
I did mine using a bare bones xp home acer atom.
you need the internet on while doing this. Don't turn of the internet our the browser
kingsway8605 said:
I feel sorry for people who start getting incredible 2s with GB pre installed
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that was me!
420fan said:
that was me!
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Sucks man. Try and find an XTC clip credit!
Ok so I've been wanting to root for a while now but never did, so I could read up on it more. If anyone knows how to root my Evo 4g after today's update to 2.3.5 I would be very greatful. Thanks everyone very much.
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swagnificent said:
Ok so I've been wanting to root for a while now but never did, so I could read up on it more. If anyone knows how to root my Evo 4g after today's update to 2.3.5 I would be very greatful. Thanks everyone very much.
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No way to root it sorry can only root 2.3.3 down ATM
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Actually just came to my senses if you have hboot needed for revolutionary then you should be fine I believe it was 2.16 and 2.15. To check your hboot pull battery out hold power button and volume down at the same time
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Nah h-boot version like 2.18.000. After the new upgrade.
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seems like another htc gotcha! so if your not rooted before the ota, and you updated, no root/unlocking for now i think is the consensus.
brad560 said:
seems like another htc gotcha! so if your not rooted before the ota, and you updated, no root/unlocking for now i think is the consensus.
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Its basically confirmed no root; until revolutionary [if] the update the method to include the 2.18 hboot. Also #2 thread.
U have an evo on2.3.5 stock?
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vabeachfc3s said:
U have an evo on2.3.5 stock?
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Recent ota happened and changed hboot and switched it to 2.3.5 from 2.3.3
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Sweet. Now im bout to lose money until a method is developed. Good thing theres an ass load of other phones ppl need flashed and rooted
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swagnificent said:
Ok so I've been wanting to root for a while now but never did, so I could read up on it more. If anyone knows how to root my Evo 4g after today's update to 2.3.5 I would be very greatful. Thanks everyone very much.
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if you had been reading up on rooting and really doing your research then you should have learned that you never accept an update right when it comes out because you lose the ability to root until a fix is found (and it often takes some time).
teh roxxorz said:
Its basically confirmed no root; until revolutionary [if] the update the method to include the 2.18 hboot. Also #2 thread.
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just tried htcdev method to unlock phone. phone now shows unlocked. success with booting twrp recovery, will try to flash rom utilizing same method as EVO 3D users with HBOOT 1.50, should be the same. will update.
Edit: Okay, just booted up SWAG ROM. Unlocked using HTCDEV method. Pushed the kernel via adb fastboot, boot.img from the unzipped ROM folder. Then flashed the zip which was on the root of the SD card, just as described in the EVO 3D development forums, using twrp1.1.1.
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just tried htcdev method to unlock phone. phone now shows unlocked. success with booting twrp recovery, will try to flash rom utilizing same method as EVO 3D users with HBOOT 1.50, should be the same. will update.
Edit: Okay, just booted up SWAG ROM. Unlocked using HTCDEV method. Pushed the kernel via adb fastboot, boot.img from the unzipped ROM folder. Then flashed the zip which was on the root of the SD card, just as described in the EVO 3D development forums, using twrp1.1.1.
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Thanks for this, you should set up a guide to help others through the process.
and speaking of revolutionary, lets focus on something more universal like an apk rooting method
thank you church.
Awesome work man. Thankyou for that.
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roids87 said:
Thanks for this, you should set up a guide to help others through the process.
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Here's what I came up with. Still may do a video. Hope it makes sense, it was very early/late when I wrote this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458491
Slightly off this topic, but along the same lines, so I didn't want to start another thread.
I rooted back in November, prior to the latest OTA update - and had a pretty good understanding of what I was doing - I think.. heh
I NEVER flashed a new ROM, Kernel, Radio, etc. Only backedup, rooted, removed some bloatware, and that's it.
I still have superuser su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip (I think?) in my root folder of my SD Card. Nothing else.
I backed up my Nandroid to my computer, as well as all the TitaniumPro backups of bloatware.
I saw Brad560's two posts - both Barebones and Stock ROM's.
In the Stock post, he listed Deodex'ed, Odexed, and Original UnRooted ROM. This confused me, as I'm still trying to wrap my head around the flashing part. Then I saw a reply about Radios?
I think at this point, I definitely want to remain rooted, but would like the "official" release from HTC/Sprint (in root form, stable, as close to the original as possible, for now).
Which ROM should I grab?
Will I need to flash a new kernel? I don't have any desire to overclock or anything.
And will I need to update the Radios separately?
Thanks, sincerely appreciate any help.
Just read in brads thread and all your answers will be there.
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I had to go to htc update 3 x first was a security patch, phone rebooted, then back to htc update little larger file this time, phone rebooted, went back to htc update and finally got the 35mb 2.3.5 update, phone rebooted. I have new hboot now to as well. If my usb port dont work at all is there a way to root just from the sd card and is it even possible?
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Just read in brads thread and all your answers will be there.
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Thanks for replying.
I have read it. That's the first time I had heard of those things, which is why I asked here.
I think some folks forget what's it like to learn this stuff.. and while many here have been around for awhile and have absorbed over time, there are people like me (a military pilot btw lol) who has a tough time grasping some of the verbiage. I had the rooting thing down. Flashing a ROM seemed easy enough, though hadn't done it. Then someone throws up 3 versions in that post and 2 in the other. I get his barebones stuff - for the most part - he stripped stuff out.
Anyway, I suppose I will take the plunge and pick one of the ROMs, then suppose flash the latest radios.
Thanks!
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I had to go to htc update 3 x first was a security patch, phone rebooted, then back to htc update little larger file this time, phone rebooted, went back to htc update and finally got the 35mb 2.3.5 update, phone rebooted. I have new hboot now to as well. If my usb port dont work at all is there a way to root just from the sd card and is it even possible?
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For the time being, only way to "root"/unlock is via HTCDEV method which requires you be connected to your computer via USB sync cable.
im trading my inc and the guy wants it stock
jdog94 said:
im trading my inc and the guy wants it stock
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If or on .92 boot loader or the unlocked boot loader or s-off flash the misc image with the 2.2 downgrade and s-off and just downgrade to 2.2 and go to the boot loader and hit factory reset
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jdog94 said:
im trading my inc and the guy wants it stock
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This thread really belongs in Q&A. It's a question.
If he doesn't care if it's S-OFF or not then just make sure it's S-OFF and flash the gingerbread RUU.
2.2 is more stable for me that's y I said that I said just do the dwngrde
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Getting it s-on is as easy as flashing the froyo radio http://dinc.does-it.net/Radios/2.15.00.07.28/PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, then flash the s-on patch http://dinc.does-it.net/Unrevoked/unrevoked-forever-son.zip thru recovery, and then flash the latest ruu http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/4.08.605.15/PB31IMG.zip thru hboot. Thats it , but as tiny said i would keep it s-off unless the buyer really wants it s-on. That way if he ever does decide to root, it makes it that much easier.
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Getting it s-on is as easy as flashing the froyo radio http://dinc.does-it.net/Radios/2.15.00.07.28/PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, then flash the s-on patch http://dinc.does-it.net/Unrevoked/unrevoked-forever-son.zip thru recovery, and then flash the latest ruu http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images/4.08.605.15/PB31IMG.zip thru hboot. Thats it , but as tiny said i would keep it s-off unless the buyer really wants it s-on. That way if he ever does decide to root, it makes it that much easier.
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Yeah and 2.2 is super stable compared to the gb ruu
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zachf714 said:
Yeah and 2.2 is super stable compared to the gb ruu
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The only instability GB has for SOME is the 2am bootloop. I my self have never had the issue. Also if you install froyo you will continuously get the update nag to gb anyways. The only way to stop that is to be s-off and rooted.
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The only instability GB has for SOME is the 2am bootloop. I my self have never had the issue. Also if you install froyo you will continuously get the update nag to gb anyways. The only way to stop that is to be s-off and rooted.
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True that is annoying but... Honestly I've never really liked gb on any rom or phone
I like froyo ics and gb
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What i just do is i go to Hboot. You can go to HBoot when your phone is turned off. While it's turned off, hold the power button and the volume down button simultaneously. Then, use the volume buttons to highlight the factory reset button. Then, press the power button to select it. It lets me go back to stock, but, for others, it just wipes their apps. i hope it works for you!