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New PPC web site

My new site http://www.wbic.co.uk has been launched. If you visit please at least stick a message in the forums, or register as a member so I know you all love me...LOL. Anyway I'm getting the bulk of the content ready now, but I will accect any submissions, and if you want to join me as a site admin let me know...Basically its a site BY geeks, FOR Geeks (whatever that means!!!)

The site now has more content...more is needed if you have always wanted to be a net-journalist nows your chance...Also there is a store opening to get your novelty tshirts mugs and thongs

couple of xda files for registered users

Thank you for the link and for your effort. 8)

the site is improving, but if you have any software projects needing a home, or wish to publisise your wares, or rant and rave in a way not allowed on 'other' sites come to http://www.wbic.co.uk

Sorry, site had isp problem. now its ok. If you need to share files that other sites wont host, i'll host them

Hey, Mate...
Your Site Down again....
Cannot be accessed on 28/12/04

Site closed due to an issue with pocketpcthoughts.com

and what did pocketpcthoughts.com say to you that made you close it?

Deepfish - Microsoft's New Web Browser

Go check out there site and view the demo. It is pretty slick I've already got it on my Dash and I like it. It's a bit slower but for what it does I can deal with it.
Also its a limited private beta so go download it while its still available.
http://labs.live.com/deepfish/

"Thanks you for your interest in Deepfish; At this time the tech preview has reached the limit of initially available installations. We will send you a notification if we make additional spots available at a later date."
Is the download SP specific? If not anyway we can get it?

yep. already done.
pls share!

it sounds like the iphone's browser. sp4rky, did you get it could you post it?

indiekiduk said:
it sounds like the iphone's browser. sp4rky, did you get it could you post it?
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http://www.qwertybar.com/misc/deepfish
Stole the link from over at Howard Forums. Thanks to juiceppc.
However, please note it requires a 16 digit activation code. Bugger.

16 zeros get you a bit further but it doesnt load pages. They really don't want us to test it do they.

indiekiduk said:
16 zeros get you a bit further but it doesnt load pages. They really don't want us to test it do they.
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Haha just after I posted that I got the activation email cool.

me too. they must be spacing out the downloads.
going to try it now

can anybody share the activation code? can it be used several times?

Just signed up and it says they're full again...

T-Will said:
Just signed up and it says they're full again...
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it said full when i signed up but i got an email soon after.

i signed up too, hopefully soon they will release more codes. *twiddles thumbs*

someone should post their code, as it can be activated multiple times

wm6 shipped rom???
instead worrying about a browser,does anyone work for tmobile have any new info on the rom UPGRADE!!

hopefully i also get a code. the IE is not tooo good
would love to test this thingy

in the blog of the deepfish page someone is annoyed, that this is proxy rendering. does that mean, that you browse through a microsoft proxy? that would explain, why javascript, flash, secured pages and so on are not supported.
or do i understand that wrong?

I assumed that it was rendering on the device because before you go to a page you see it downloading an amount of data which looks like it downloading the html and all the images.
But, I havn't done any packet sniffing to see if it does in fact download through an MS proxy. So it might...And if it does it must also download where all the links are so you can navigate them with the cursor. And also stuff about where any form controls are. And "Bandwidth optimized rendering for faster content delivery." which suggests it is.
At the moment in my mind its 50:50 might be rendered on a server, might be on the device. Or could be a bit of both, like html downloaded direct and images via a server. Lets packet sniff and see...I'll be pretty dissapointed if it turns out to all go through MS.

I think this software is actually downloading the pages from a MS server. If you don't have the right code it won't let you pull information from the server.
I think things are pre-rendered on the server and then sent to the device in a special file format.
This is just my guess but I think that is how they are doing it.
-Dan

everything is rendered at Microsoft as told on their site:
"Deepfish is a lightweight client application that leverages a powerful server side technology for delivery of content such as web pages to a Windows Mobile device."

really wish someone can share the code with me..

.XAP Marketplace apps free (illegal) downloadable?

According to WPcentral:
Sounds like an innocent blog that reviews apps right? Well the concerns from the Twitter posts is that not only does the site review apps but it also contains download links for the .xap file that is residing on Microsoft's servers.
Even if you download the .xap file, it's going to take some effort to get it installed to your Windows Phone 7.
You will need the developer tools and device that is unlocked for development. While the developer tools are free, you have to be a registered developer to get an unlocked device. You CAN however download the .xap and rename it as a .zip and look at the structure of the app, though we're 99% sure that the real "code" of the app is compiled/encoded/encrypted.
Not many will be able to do much with this downloadable file. That is unless you're a developer looking to download free apps from other developers. Still, one has to wonder why it's so easy for a third party site to provide download links to Marketplace apps.
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They are talking about the website: http://winmobile7.apphab.com/
Kind of a strange site. They are offering free downloads of paid marketplace applications. Unless you are a developer, you can't do anything with it. But it's still strange...

This sounds like a good way to get in a lot of trouble. I would bet Microsoft can see what apps are installed when the phone checks for marketplace app updates even if you side load it as a developer.

And its still live and offering files to download. Shoddy MS security on display, extremely troubling for devs.

Hopefully Microsoft will look into that site and any similar sites.
We cant have developers loosing money because of these people.

I can't see where you download apps - if its real why not post a link on http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads ?

It says it's for free and trial versions. Isn't it pointless to provide download files anyway since you can only install apps via the Marketplace?

****, they have my app on there, not happy

my app does support trial, I'm not seeing anything about xap downloads, hopefully this means the breach has been fixed and not that I'm looking in the wrong place
I don't mind free publicity, but I put many hours into that and don't want it spread around in such a way (free, unauthorized downloads, raw code)

Definitely not cool for developers. One issue is that all the apps are silverlight and are only compiled to MSIL. Pop open the binaries with Reflector and you've basically got the source code. All devs should utilize Dotfuscator to at least help with this.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-with-preemptive-solutions-for-analytics.aspx

ckacey said:
my app does support trial, I'm not seeing anything about xap downloads, hopefully this means the breach has been fixed and not that I'm looking in the wrong place
I don't mind free publicity, but I put many hours into that and don't want it spread around in such a way (free, unauthorized downloads, raw code)
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It looks like the site that had the links (http://winmobile7.apphab.com) took down the link to the XAPs but I bet the issue is still there. It was a pretty simple URL to the Microsoft server. You just had to know the application's GUID and you could download the XAP.

I don't see how this makes them free... you can easily see you need a registered dev device, I doubt it makes the app "free" because there is a fee you must pay.

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And its still live and offering files to download. Shoddy MS security on display, extremely troubling for devs.
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Microsoft can check your device and see if you have pirated software on it, just like they do for XBox live. They already have the infrastructure in place and if you pirate be prepared to have your phone banned from Marketplace, Zune, XBox Live, etc.

RustyGrom said:
Definitely not cool for developers. One issue is that all the apps are silverlight and are only compiled to MSIL. Pop open the binaries with Reflector and you've basically got the source code. All devs should utilize Dotfuscator to at least help with this.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...-with-preemptive-solutions-for-analytics.aspx
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Any decent develper will Obfuscate the code. If they didn't, they were kind of asking for it since it's hot hard to intercept data being downloaded over WiFi, etc. The fact that it can only come from the market was never enough to stop people from getting their hands on the files downloaded from said market.
It's no different than any other platform that uses a VM architecture (Android, WP7, WM 6.x .NET CF, Java ME, etc.).

I found my own app there. I don't however see a download link?
--edit: Nvm, should've read the thread to its end.

What is the URL? To replace with GUID or XAP filename? Could always use archive.org.

i guys!i have a mega pack xap installers with games and apps.
i poste for everyone previous.
sorry bad english...
cmpts

is a method to decrypt files xap
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34246750&postcount=3

[Q] Torrent/Magnet Links?

Hello XDA Moderators!
First of all I want to apologize if this topic has been already discussed or is it forbidden (I didn't found such restrictions in the rules)
Anyway, since I got my HTC Desire S this forum is the primary source of information for me, and most probably for all the other visitors around.
And especially when it comes to custom rom files there are sometimes troubles with dead links, crappy file sharing sites with stupid limitations, etc.
So I think it will be much more convenient for everyone (devs and users) to use the torrent system via magnet link (combined with QR scan maybe) for all the files that are posted around here. The download speed will be much better and all that have downloaded the file once will contribute by seeding it to the others. And of course via the appropriate client the files can be downloaded directly to the SD Card (this is possible now through the phone web browser, but a lot of steps are required - waiting, human security check forms, etc.). And last but not least one of the greatest advantages is that on single torrent there can be multiple files, that one can pick to download or not (for example all radio images for a specific model, etc.)
Looking forward to your comments.

no interest?

Obviously not...

Well... I do direct download links for ROMs, on several gigabit servers. So it's of no interest here...
P2P systems also require client software, meaning people downloading via their phone might have issues...
But I personally see no need for a different download system, and nobody has ever complained about waiting times or ads for direct uploads

Thank you for this reply

Agreed with above commenters but I can't disagree with OP either.
It's true that torrents may present an issue due to the requirement of a client but a torrent has one huge advantage - integrity.
Torrent clients automatically check the files for integrity. Also, torrents can provided reliable downloads for larger files.
However, I hardly think torrents are relevant here. Torrents are useful only for large files. Most of the files shared on XDA are 500MB at the most. Most ROMs are 100MB and apks are around 1-15MB.
Although RapidShare is annoying, there are other pretty reliable file sharing services like MediaFire. MediaFire is by far my most favorite site for mass file sharing and Dropbox is pretty reliable too although Dropbox has a 10GB/day traffic limit per account.
Check out these sites listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210372 for remote uploading to dropbox where you download the file directly to dropbox and then download it from dropbox. Pretty useful if the download speeds are too low.

Curious..
Browser add-ons bring torrent to your normal browser download. Opera has had one for quite some time out of the box. But you can even get a real torrent client for Android now.
And to be frank, as long as the OP provides checksums, the value of integrety should remain. I get eered out downloading from some of these file share sites, plus with all the spammy ads and what not!
Maybe somebody should make an XDA related torrent cache?

Marketplace redirect script

Sometimes when you click an link to an app on the web marketplace it doesn't redirect you to your country's marketplace. Then you have to click several times until you finally get to the right place. This script fixes that.
As soon as you are on a marketplace page it checks if the URL's country code is the same as yours, otherwise you will be redirected you your country's marketplace.
You need to enter your country code in the script, otherwise it will redirect you to de-AT.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/116688