[Q] A2SD for some programs dosent work - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
im using MIUI 1.9.23 rom some days now coming from Oxygen rom.The problem im facing is that some programs which i could move almost all their data to sd card with oxygen rom in miui rom are unmovable.For example Sygic mobile has 6.84mb data,Teamspeak has 7.24mb and im pretty sure that i could move them to sd in oxygen rom, leaving only some kb to my phone memory.Why is that happening? is this the way that rom works or there is something i could do about it ?
p.s my sd card hasn't any ext2-3-4 partition

It seems to me you did not understand how A2SD works:
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...sd-partitions-updated-10th-august-2011-a.html

MatDrOiD said:
It seems to me you did not understand how A2SD works:
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Hello my friend and thanks for your answer.
I think i know how A2SD works but thats not the point.I said that specific programs such as these two i mentioned above, could move their data to sd card from internal memory with oxygen rom .For example sygic mobile navigator after installation in Oxygen rom had 6.84mb data in internal memory but in "manage application" menu i could move almost all these data to SD, remaining only 65kb.In MIUI rom now after installation i have also 6.84mb data to internal memory and in "manage application" menu the "Move to SD card" button cant be pushed.
is there something in this very helpfull page you point me that could explain this problem? cause i cant find it..
thanks in advance!

android-noob said:
p.s my sd card hasn't any ext2-3-4 partition
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A2SD cannot work without ext partition. In most roms A2SD is preset to work (like in Oxygen), but you always have to make ext partition.
Oxygen for example is preset to use ext3 for A2SD.

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Trouble with MIUI Apps2sd+

I'm having trouble getting apps2sd+ to work on the MIUI rom. I've used rom manager to partition the card and when i go to sd settings its showing the partition as apps2sd+ but when i download apps it seems to be using the partiton and the phone memory? Also when i go on titanium backup it doesnt show the partition at all???
steslatt said:
I'm having trouble getting apps2sd+ to work on the MIUI rom. I've used rom manager to partition the card and when i go to sd settings its showing the partition as apps2sd+ but when i download apps it seems to be using the partiton and the phone memory? Also when i go on titanium backup it doesnt show the partition at all???
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Try using an app from the Android Marketplace called Quick System Info to check that is it working correctly. Your internal memory may still go down as only portions of the apps (i.e. data) you install are sent to the sd card's ext partition.
The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card
steslatt said:
The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card
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Have you tried clearing the Dalvik cache? Might help some.
Yes i've tried everything, wiped dalvik, factory reset, formated sd card again and partitioned it again. Going to try another rom now. Shame i quite liked the MIUI
steslatt said:
The partition worked but its saving all the app on the phone memory as well as the sd card
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Thats impossible, the way apps2sd works, it moves the /data/app/ directory to the SD-EXT... as masdroid explaned, the reason your internal storage is decreasing is apps2sd dosent move the data/data directory, this remains on the internal storage, some apps use a large amount of space in /data/data/ some use none at all. but from what i have read, your apps2sd is working pefectly
I am having the same issue. When I use 'File Manager', I see a folder sd-ext but there is nothing in there.
I've already went through Systems >> Settings >> Manage Applications and moved all my apps (the ones allowed) onto the SD. I don't know where or what folder it's actually being saved in though.
I used ROM Manager to partition the SD card. I even went through 'Terminal' to do the commands that would push it to the ext3 but I'm still not understanding what I'm doing wrong.
I'm on the latest version of MIUI. Can someone please help me?
The MIUI rom has a2sd desactivate by default, you have to put -> a2sd reinstall in a terminal then reboot and finish with -> a2sd cachesd
EDIT: First you have to write -> su
You need to turn it on yourself
Sorry for my bad English!!
anthack01 said:
The MIUI rom has a2sd desactivate by default, you have to put -> a2sd reinstall in a terminal then reboot and finish with -> a2sd cachesd
EDIT: First you have to write -> su
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Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?
luvtommie said:
Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?
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try miui d2ext version rom.......
m using it with 1gb card partitions n its showing 1gb internal memory .. so i can install lots of application with few hd games too.... if any problem u can pvt me.....
luvtommie said:
Hi anthack01, thanks for the response. So that means any apps that I have moved to the SD already (based on the cupcake process) will have to be redownload again?
Also, if I upgrade to a newer version of MIUI, I would have to do this process via Terminal each and every time?
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The apps you moved to SD card (FAT32-partition) should be moved back on internal storage.
No, you don't have to do that (as far as I remember).

[Q] Can't make apps move to SD card

Heya,
Today I flashed a fresh Defrost 6.1a (Which is said to support A2SD+), Flashed Gapps. So far so good.
I took my 8GB SD card and partitioned it in Ubuntu using Gpareted. I set the FAT32 partition first, then a ext3 partition (512MB) second.
Ubuntu read both with accurate sizes.
I put the card back into the phone and looked "SD card & phone storage", it no said my SD card is only 6.89GB, but the Internal phone storage was still low.
I decided to check a little more with Titanium Backup, which surprisingly said that my ext3 partition is only 256MB and is half full (talking about a fresh ROM here).
Can someone point me to where I did wrong?
Maybe format using ext4?
Put the ext partition first?
Reflash ROM after partitioning?
TNX
I have never got A2SD working either. I think you need to install a script or something. Here is a post about A2SD. Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
If you want more space to install apps, you can install one of AlphaRev's HBoot templates which can increase the /data partition, that's if you have S-Off.
I couldn't be bothered farting around with A2SD and so I did that instead.
CoreOxide said:
Maybe format using ext4?
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No, it will not make it work and will only increase your memory card's wear.
CoreOxide said:
Reflash ROM after partitioning?
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So you flashed the a2sd enabled ROM on the device which didn't have memory card prepared? I always thought such enterprises would end in a boot loop. Flash it again if this is the case.
GoogleJelly said:
Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
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It is not teh same thing!
erklat said:
How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Ext3

Hi.
I'm in a dilemma here trying to.fimd out what is wrong. I formatted and partitioned my 4gb SD card to work with App2sd+ by making 3gb Fat32 Primary and First Partition and 1gb EXT3 Primary, however whenever apps are installed they tend to use the First partitioned instead of the reserved 1gb partition I had created.
Maybe I have done something wrong, since I am quite new to App2SD and how it works, but know the basics. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
Sent from my HTC Desire using crappy XDA App.
You must flash a rom with a2sd+ support. It's different from the built in support for a2sd, which can be found in the stock froyo roms and above.
Flash Darktremor Apps2SD for Desire in recovery and then use A2SDGUI from the Market to change settings as you like. After that do not manually move apps around. They should me installed to the internal storage which then will be your sd-card.
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
Deeco7 said:
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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yes it could be, i wondering the same things about the app2sd with my first flash with custom's rom and ap2sd+ (i uninstalled this app).
to be shure that your sript ap2sd+ is working fine you can brouwse your phone and go to system/sd you should see 4 folders... app + app-private +lost-found and dalvik-cache (for the last folder it's assumed that your script got the little "+" which means that is moving the dalvik cache to your ext partition)
hope this would help you
Another idea to see if a2sd+ is working like it should is to download Quick System Info. When you launch it you should see a line with a2sd info. If it is there then a2sd+ is ok, and you can see how much of you ext3 1GB partition is used.
I used the rom manager to make the partitions, then I format them with MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Professional.v5.2-REDT when needed, you can resize them as needed ... you can download it at rlslog.net
Wow... Is it really time for another "how does x type of app to sd solution work?"
It really is quite simple:
Froyo a2sd uses a folder on the fat32 and the system controls, where the apps is installed, and where they are moved to.
a2sd+/legacy a2sd uses the ext-partition by symlinking the folders /data/apps and /data/dalvik-cache to this partition. This solution is transparent to the system itself, so as far as the android system is aware the apps is installed internal. This means you can use widgets from apps on this partition, and it also means that your apps will allways be installed here, so you cannot move them to internal. You will also not see the extra space, your apps will just not take up as much space when installed.
If you like you have done move the apps to sd through the froyo settings, you actually just move them from the ext-partition to the folder on the fat32-partition.

[Q] Small free space

Hello,
First, i'm sorry for my bad english ^^.
Since 2 weeks, i installed the BETA of ICS 4.0.3 on my Desire, and with the build 0.3.2, that works perfectly.
But i have a problem with my space storage. I installed some applications and i have only 20 mb free on my Desire.
I tryied app2sd, but with this appli, we must move application to SD manually, and there are already some "datas" on the telephone. All the application was not moved.
I would like to try S2E but it's only for cyanogen. The marked said me my mobile is not compatible with S2E.
Thank's in advance for your help,
Check / search the ICS-thread. You will find solutions for your problem there.
Thanks for your help.
You can use for this ROM the app "a2sdgui" (look in the market), but i think you have to install the darktremor script over the recovery in the first step.
Are you using a stock hboot? you could get more space by choosing other hboot option (eg Hboot CM7 r2) which re-allocate your phone internal space to optimal.
Also, try to build ext4 partition on your sd card and mount as internal memory.
You have three options as I see it; Darktremor, Amarullz and built-in apps2sd. DT has sound issues if you move dalvik cache to SD Card, Amarullz lags like crazy even though I have class 10 SD Card. The stock apps2sd is the best choice out of three.
Use Terminal Emulator and run
su
a2sd install
To move dalvik cache to SD Card
su
a2sd cachesd
Hi,
I've just this weekend installed starburst froyo for htc desire ROM on my desire.
For just this problem, to little space left on internal memory.
After installation i now have a cool 1.8GB of internal memory to install everything i want.
On my class 4 sdcard i have little to no lag. Thinking about upgrading to class 10, just to get ride of the last lag.
Maybe, starburst is something for you to ?
Grtz.
I think the builtin a2sd is the better solution. I have a SD memory of 4go but it's a class 2 only...
I am thinking about buy a class 4 memory... it's only 7€ for 8go.
Thanks all for your messages ^^
Edit :
I can't post in the developper section, so i post here. I have a little bug with the beta of ICS. When i zoom in on a picture, i can't zoom out correctly... There is a bug.

[Qext4 partition problem

hi everyone,
i just rooted and installed the Cyanogen 7.2.0.1-bravo rom and partitionned my sdcard 16gb to a FAT32 partion and ext4 partition with 1gb.
the problem is the intern memory !! ( lack of space ), idk if i missed something or didn't installed a script ... i have app2sd already installed and i moved the most of the apps to my sdcard but the ext4 partion is not used and can't see it .
so what do i have to do ?
ps: i just istalled a2sdFroyo, but doesn't help or i didn't used it right ...
pls help
when you say "i have app2sd already installed" how have you done it?
how did you partition your sd card, should be done with gparted or 4ext recovery only. if you used something else, backup your sd and repartition.
to maximise space, s-off and change hboot to cm7r2, recommend guides here (read them slowly and several times to help your understanding)
then full wipe, install rom.zip again from scratch
to enable the A2SD, one method is to install an app like S2E which can move apps automatically to sd-ext, no need to 'move to sd'. you can keep dalvik cache on internal, and move it to sd-ext if you still run out of space. internal memory will always go down as stuff builds up on internal (data partition)
whatever rom you use, install an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions in future, that way you can actually see where and how your space is being used
i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?
darko1x said:
i followed the MiniTool Partition tuto to make partitions and then i installed normaly app2sd
why do i have to reistall the rom again ?
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do not use minitool, this may be the reason why you cannot use the partition at all.
backup your sd card to pc first, then use gparted, there's a video guide from the link i posted
(make sure you have a nandroid backup, titanium backup of apps and backup contacts to google)
i am advising a full wipe because i don't know how you "installed normally app2sd". if you reinstall the rom from scratch without anything else, there is less chance of things going wrong. using S2E afterwards is easy.
if you want to set up this rom or any rom properly so you don't run out of space, you should understand where all your apks, data and dalvik are stored, and what the different hboot partition tables are. it's all in the guides i linked.
i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?
darko1x said:
i installed app2sd after i finished with the rom and the partitioning of the sdcard, and it works without any problem
i istalled now S2E and i transfered the apps to the ext folder now i have 140Mb free space and i think it's working now becuase i sync with skype and facebook and i still have the same space in my internal memory ...
what do you think ?
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if you install something like 'diskusage' you can KNOW if it is working...
i would still recommend s-off and change hboot to cm7r2. this will use space more efficiently, and you can install many more apps. just read the guides i linked. you can still learn a lot more
Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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write down your free sd-ext space then install an app from the play store. Check the space again. If it had gone down your sorted.
darko1x said:
Hi. I think its working, from 1Gb i still have 700 Gb in green color.
Am i right ?
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looks like it is working
with diskusage you can just zoom in on all your partitions including sd-ext, so if you see your app apk's there the script is working.
open diskusage again and select /system. i'm willing to bet that you're still on stock hboot. you will see a lot of free space on system partition, which is useless...
therefore still recommend (for the last time) to s-off and change to cm7r2 hboot. you seem to keep ignoring this and the guides...

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