I'm Sorry if this has been brought up many times or not, but I got so confused to the point I have to ask you guys on how to do this.
I'm used to play with the Galaxy S2 which I know how to root and all that, so i thought HTC Wildfire S wouldn't be the bigger problem since they both are on Android.. i was mistaken.
Here's my question: How to root my device with stock 2.3.3 firmware, Where is the actual guide which doesn't take me ten other places which confuses me and seems it's not even the correct guides for rooting this device.
Device information:
HTC Wildfire S A510e
Stock Android 2.3.3 European
Sense version: 2.1
Something Called S-on/S-off , could anyone tell me what this mean and how to know wethere im "on" or "off" and how to change this
Any more information i need to give?
I would appreciate it ALOT if some nice guy/gal would show me a tutorial on how to root this device, nothing more, nothing less.
Thanks
To check if your WFS is S-on or S-off you should switch it off and than keep the volume down button pressed whilst you press the power button. The first line of this screen will state if you're S-off or not..
If you're not, there's no other way to get S-off than the xtc-clip.
Unfortunately i'm stuck on S-off and there's no xtc-clip near my location afaik and i don't think buying one for the sake of rooting one device is worth it.
Yeah i got into the Hboot after many tries(guess i did many wrong attemps) and it says it S-On
So basicly I have to buy this "xtc-clip" to ever get my phone rooted, or is there other ways?
For now the xtc-clip is the only way to achieve s-off on the WFS....
I'm still hoping that htc will release the bootloader in due time though
Ahh crap, so it was only about luck wether it's S-off or S-On in the beginning?
That's right, apparently HTC released S-off models of the WFS in the Asian regions... not sure how much is true about that btw
Thanx for that "how to check s-on guide".
Was hoping mine was s-off but its not :-( tough luck
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Now uh, go easy on me, my first time posting here.
I may seem like a total idiot here, but the amount of conflicting information I've seen is quite confusing. I've searched and searched and the more I read the less I seemed to be sure of.
My question:
Can I do the unrevoked method of rooting ('theunlockr.com - how to root htc desire unrevoked method' 20.9.10) [cant post links] on my specific device?
My handset information is
Bravo PVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT- 0.87.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.09.00.08
Android version: 2.2
Software number: 2.06.832.1
The 0.87 HBOOT seems rather rare on the forums, I don't know why. All I've read is that at one point the 0.87 version could not be rooted, but I don't know if that is still the case (this was information from April-July) and the unrevoked tutorial states that 'At this time, unrevoked3 works on all versions of the supported phones', which my phone would come under the CDMA Desire (BravoC) I'm pretty sure. Just would like some quick confirmation from you lot before I go and do something stupid.
Thanks!
it was mentioned that hboot version doesnt matter when using new unrevoked
If you've got S-OFF then you don't need to root do you? It should already be done...CDMA phones when rooted with unrEVOked get S-OFF
Sounds like you're already rooted, check to see if you've got Superuser Permissions in your program list
Nope, no superuser permissions, and the phones unused.
The fact that the phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM makes it the CDMA 'Bravo' model right?
Well if what you have written is indeed what it says in hboot, then you are s-off and it should be easy to flash or install super user to the phone
My phone supports WCDMA and GSM - it's not the same as CDMA...
Do you use a SIM card in your phone? If so, it's a GSM phone
Just double checked it, it definately says S-OFF, everything in the first post was 100% correct.
Strange, the phone is actually a Hong Kong model that I ordered, saving me quite a bit of money being in Australia. Seems a bit iffy that it was unlocked from the start, actually makes me think it's a used model, even though everything else looks and works flawlessly. Probably shouldn't complain, even though they've caused me a bit of confusion.
So these rooted ROMs that people are developing all contain the superuser permissions application, I can't seem to find that individual application for download though. Hmmm.
edit: found the application, installing.
Ah, so I have the GSM model.
When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
If I were you, I'd follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256
and go back to a stock WWE ROM and then root it using unrEVOked 3.14 and then you can flash whatever ROM you want...easier than faffing about with S-OFF and the like (you don't really need it unless you wanna change the initial splash screen or you're a developer)
I got the phone about a week ago.
Cheers for the advice.
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When did you get the phone? The S-OFF 'hack' has only just come out so unless you're on an engineering Desire (which is highly unlikely) then someone cracked it before selling the phone...
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Well the hboot version he is mentioning is not the same as the one patched by ieftm, so he might just have recieved a developer device? Sounds strange though.
And as eddyos is saying, you could just flash a ruu and go the traditional route, if you cant figure it out using the s-off hboot. It's pretty cool though.
edit: if it is an actual s-off device, wouldn't the flag for s-off be set and flashing a ruu would not help it? Just like unrevoked forever on evo?
Hi everyone. First off, I saw the video before watching, I searched the forum, I tried google but I'm a complete noob and a lot of the things I've read don't make much sense to me or I'm not sure if my phone falls under 'rootable' or 'unrootable, needs xtc clip or w.e'
I have an HTC Wildfire S with Bell. I checked and it says "S-ON", its Android 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 at first I was going to use this tutorial but I wasn't sure if my phone falls under that since it has "S-ON"
Also...lets suppose I can root it, how do I go about unrooting just in case I need to take it for warranty or something? (since I payed extra for that). I read something about EUU? But again, it didn't make much sense to me.
Sorry, I swear I searched hard to find an answer :S
You cannot root you phone if it's s on. Only way is to buy x clip which is almost the same price as of the phone :/
Thanks for the reply. Damn, I was hoping that wouldn't be the answer. Well that sucks, thanks anyways.
xtc clip is currently about 80% off at the moment on their website due to them discontinuing the PAYG clip....
For us in the UK, it means the XTC Clip is just shy of £40
regis1 said:
Hi everyone. First off, I saw the video before watching, I searched the forum, I tried google but I'm a complete noob and a lot of the things I've read don't make much sense to me or I'm not sure if my phone falls under 'rootable' or 'unrootable, needs xtc clip or w.e'
I have an HTC Wildfire S with Bell. I checked and it says "S-ON", its Android 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 at first I was going to use this tutorial but I wasn't sure if my phone falls under that since it has "S-ON"
Also...lets suppose I can root it, how do I go about unrooting just in case I need to take it for warranty or something? (since I payed extra for that). I read something about EUU? But again, it didn't make much sense to me.
Sorry, I swear I searched hard to find an answer :S
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Regis1,
from the moment you decide to start rooting, you loose your warranty. At the moment there's no way back from S-OFF to S-ON. Putting your phone in S-OFF (security flag OFF) is the same like removing the VOID sticker...
First think about why you wan't to root. Install unbranded ROM, another language, ...
If your phone is working like it should, I wouldn't root it...
IF you decide to root, you can try to follow this thread (if u have HBOOT 0.90.0000):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142529
(HOWTO for creating a goldcard is in one of the reply's)
IF you have a newer HBOOT, 1.03.0000 like I had, you need to buy an XTC PayG clip. These cost around 30 euros on eBay. This will put your phone S-OFF and from then on you can flash a custom recovery or any Wildfire S ROM (with root access) you want.
PS: the thread you specified, is for a Wildfire, not he Wildfire S and doesn't work...
^^Thanks for the reply. Ya, I wanted to install some custom rom as my battery seems to die quickly and I was hoping I could install a rom (its called rom right? lol) that is good for battery life. Forget what it's called but seeing as how you're saying it automatically voids my warranty and there's no going back its really not worth the trouble. I'll just google some methods to save battery life and look at a thread I saw here. I do like my phone overall and have no problem with it, I just figured that if I can make it more customizable then why not. I kind of imagined it would be like jailbreaking an iPhone so I thought why not. Turns out I'm wrong.
@taffypride: Well that's about $60 for me which isn't worth it at the moment, just as I said. Thanks though.
I suppose I'll keep my phone the way it is for now. Thanks for all the replies.
HTC wouldn't care if it's S-off as some phones are shipped that way, the xtc clip is a one time purchase and will be updated to unlock newer phones within the future, also unrooting is very easy. All you have to do is install an RUU from your region or a WWE (World wide edition)
Well I bought extra warranty from the store I bought it from (bestbuy) so this isn't a manufacturer warranty. But both ways it seems like too much of a headache at the moment anyway. I'd rather wait until I've had the phone for a while and am bored with it. That would be a perfect time for rooting experiments
You will get bored quickly. After rooting it the possibility's are endless.
unroot htc wildfire s (s-on)
i have htc wildfire s (asia india version,build:2.13.720.1)
you can root your phone via unlocking your bootloader(s-on) and then use htc supertool.
user in distress
imlgl said:
HTC wouldn't care if it's S-off as some phones are shipped that way, the xtc clip is a one time purchase and will be updated to unlock newer phones within the future, also unrooting is very easy. All you have to do is install an RUU from your region or a WWE (World wide edition)
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Hello, I am from India, I started to unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com but it seems to be backdated from my phone!
i also selected htc asia india but my software number is 2.26.720.18!! which is way advanced than that!!!! where can i find such an advanced ruu????
Just do that without ruu file, from list of models pick All other supported models, last choice in that list
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
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portoskt said:
Just do that without ruu file, from list of models pick All other supported models, last choice in that list
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
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So should I choose a model which is advanced than wildfire?
Plz suggest a model!
And should I proceed to step1 without proccessing my phone with the ruu??
Proceed without ruu
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
Galaxy Ace
mallik.android said:
So should I choose a model which is advanced than wildfire?
Plz suggest a model!
And should I proceed to step1 without proccessing my phone with the ruu??
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Sorry for offtopic. Galaxy Ace almost same price as wildfire s.:laugh::good: U should better buy that one. Wildfire S sucks.
...hope this isnt a pointless thread, but I felt these are a valid set of questions... might be wrong though... >_<
In any case, I've just been informed that the HTC now officially unlocks the DHD bootloader through their website.
Now, my questions...
Does anyone know the difference between the Official HTC bootloader unlock procedure versus the Radio and ENG-HBOOT procedure posted by jkoljo?
Also, note that the HTC way looks like its just one procedure... whilst jkoljo's are distinctly two (one for Radio and one for HBOOT)... if the HTC procedure is initially used, would you still need to do either of jkoljo's? ie the Radio S-Off one... assuming the HTC way gives you only Eng-HBOOT S-OFF?
Hell, do you still need to downgrade with the HTC bootloader unlock?
Lastly, I've already used jkoljo's procedure and now fully Radio & HBOOT S-Off'ed... is there any point of doing the HTC unlock bootloader procedure? Would it actually give me a negative result if I actually go through the HTC procedure now with the current state of my phone?
Anyways, thanks for reading through my musings... and here's hoping someone with the knowhow answers well... ^_^
/Peace
I would like to no this to, but do we really need to worry now we are rooted ?
Yes me 2. What are the pros and cons of them?
...from reading the FAQ on the HTCdev about it.
...according to its FAQ
It seems you're still S-ON after their procedure. This is to apparently secure the radio as well as the SIM-Lock...
So me thinks we might still need jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure afterwards...
...Although, with HTC leaving that lock... I'm a bit dubious about advocating their procedure now as opposed to jkoljo's as well as the Advanced Ace Hack kit. The latter of which is actually the most effective imho, though it still needs jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure...
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
truc007 said:
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
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Root is different from unlocking bootloader eg the Motorola Milestone has root but the bootloader is still locked. This still allows you to load partially customized ROMs but prevents loading custom kernels for one thing.
My question though would be:
What exactly is the point in HTC's bootloader unlocker? Say you go from a stock phone, upgraded froyo to GB all the way. You dont have s-off or eng-off or anything, what would the benefit be to now unlock the bootloader "officially"?
Does it supply a recovery with nandroid backup or allow GB to be rooted or anything like that?
The benefit would be that you lose your warranty because HTC saves your serial, which wouldn't happen if you do it yourself.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk
Exactly...and thanks to AAHK it's not really difficult to get Root, S-Off and CWM on our phones
DN41
Wonder why HTC went through "all the trouble" to do a bootloader unlocker for Desire HD now anyway? its like p#ssing on the ashes AFTER the house burnt down, surely they know there's a dozen ways to get there that are far less involved than their convoluted scheme. *shrugs*
I did this just because there's no major action on ICS and no action on rcmix runny, so i needed to do something to my phone.
Its a real convoluted process.
you need to restore to stock and update to the latest ruu before you can then install the new hboot to then unlock.
The only difference is now i have locked, then unlocked at the top of the bootloader screen.
still needed to re root the stock rom to install 4ext to nandroid the stock and restore ICS.
Really not worth the effort trying ifyou already have a custom recovery and s-off.
Unless you want the latest possible date to show off...
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
Pibroens said:
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
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Check the stickies in the dev forum like this one.
If you have S-OFF, obviously you can skip to the next steps, which is to root.
Make sure you read, read, read so you don't miss anything important.
1. How S-ON after XTC-CLIP ? Riff Box help ?
2. How send command [email protected]=7,1 ?
Kamil1987 said:
1. How S-ON after XTC-CLIP ? Riff Box help ?
2. How send command [email protected]=7,1 ?
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sorry to burst your bubbly man but xtc clip is NOT reversible. end of. it doesn't save any backups of what it changes at all so your stuck like.
no program will give you s-on, or return you to your orginal simlock or cid as xtc clip changes the secure-flag and deletes the rest....
Yesterday i turned on S-ON after XTC-CLIP in HTC Wildfire and HTC Legend, in HTC Desire S still does not work. In the evening I'll check on HTC Wildfire S
Kamil1987 said:
Yesterday i turned on S-ON after XTC-CLIP in HTC Wildfire and HTC Legend, in HTC Desire S still does not work. In the evening I'll check on HTC Wildfire S
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what? how? just so we are clear you have managed to take a s-offed htc wildfire by xtc clip and make it s-on again?!?!
Secret On HTC Wildfire S also working but HTC Desire S not working.
On HTC Desire Z not working.
Kamil1987 said:
Secret On HTC Wildfire S also working but HTC Desire S not working.
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What is the point in posting if your not going to share. I have no need for this but it pissed me off when people come on glory and money hunting,cos if you didn't intend making any money from this then you would share.
For me you can just jog on.
UTID
slymobi said:
What is the point in posting if your not going to share. I have no need for this but it pissed me off when people come on glory and money hunting,cos if you didn't intend making any money from this then you would share.
For me you can just jog on.
UTID
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+1 this is a community based on helping and sharing information and ideas. what is the point of trying to come off with comments like that? are you just trying to get a kick out of it are you generally trying to piss people off?? i bet your just some kid somewhere trying to get jollys from people who took the plunge with the xtc clip as rev. wasnt about.
come back when you ACTUALLY have something of use or you grow up. and i dont expect either soon.
heavy_metal_man said:
+1 this is a community based on helping and sharing information and ideas. what is the point of trying to come off with comments like that? are you just trying to get a kick out of it are you generally trying to piss people off?? i bet your just some kid somewhere trying to get jollys from people who took the plunge with the xtc clip as rev. wasnt about.
come back when you ACTUALLY have something of use or you grow up. and i dont expect either soon.
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sorry to bump a old thread he lie's it is NOT possible on ANY device. as all data is wiped when secure flag is wiped NO WAY BACK. as you cannot write that deleted data back to the phone. even if you got hold of the needed data you still wouldnt be able to flash it. and did u notice how quick he was between his posts saying desire z works or watever then wildfire s worked its lie's the guys a fool.
I'm also interested in putting back S-ON after having used the XTC clip to make it S-OFF. But what interests me is a general method that would work on any device (compatible with the XTC clip of course).
I think it is possible because I managed to make it work on the Desire Z with the following method:
1) use XTC clip to make the device S-OFF.
2) use gfree to make it back S-ON. (https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod/tree/master/scotty2/gfree)
But the thing is: gfree is using a vulnerability only available on the HTC Desire Z so it does not work on all devices.
Any ideas?
well, once you have s-off you can map the all of the nand via fastboot kernal commands, but like the wildfire s we would need to work out the size of all the partitions and "write in" the information for the radio. if we did that and then xtc clipped a buzz on the revolutionary hboot it may show you where the the s-0n s-0ff "bit" is. then, in theory you could write to the nand and overwrite the bit to change it. in theory this would also work to properly s-0ff the device so all hboots could be flashed. but that would imply that the s-0ff s0n bit is actually in the unmapped partition of the nand. i would like to try this idea just to see how far we could get, as i may be getting another s-on buzz in july but we would have to get the mappings for the mtd partitions. oh, and gfree only works on emcc devices i think, thats why it wont work for us as it is mtd.
gfree only works on devices that use emmc and have this vulnerability, that is to say only the HTC Desire Z...but it does not matter.
Be careful with what is below, it may brick your device so do it at your own risk.
I managed to set the S-ON flag back on the HTC Desire Z with the following command: [email protected]?7,1. This can be sent to the device by first putting the device in HBOOT mode, then issuing "rtask C" and then talking to the radio with AT commands (see http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision/RadioAnalysis#TalkingtotheRadio).
But it did not work on a HTC Desire S.
heavy_metal_man said:
well, once you have s-off you can map the all of the nand via fastboot kernal commands, but like the wildfire s we would need to work out the size of all the partitions and "write in" the information for the radio. if we did that and then xtc clipped a buzz on the revolutionary hboot it may show you where the the s-0n s-0ff "bit" is. then, in theory you could write to the nand and overwrite the bit to change it. in theory this would also work to properly s-0ff the device so all hboots could be flashed. but that would imply that the s-0ff s0n bit is actually in the unmapped partition of the nand. i would like to try this idea just to see how far we could get, as i may be getting another s-on buzz in july but we would have to get the mappings for the mtd partitions. oh, and gfree only works on emcc devices i think, thats why it wont work for us as it is mtd.
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1) Could you develop on your "fastboot kernal" commands ? How do you do what you are talking about ?
2) I know where the security flag is for the HTC Desire Z but not for the Desire S, I would need to backup all the partitions, S-OFF it and then make a diff to identify it.
saidelike said:
gfree only works on devices that use emmc and have this vulnerability, that is to say only the HTC Desire Z...but it does not matter.
Be careful with what is below, it may brick your device so do it at your own risk.
I managed to set the S-ON flag back on the HTC Desire Z with the following command: [email protected]?7,1. This can be sent to the device by first putting the device in HBOOT mode, then issuing "rtask C" and then talking to the radio with AT commands (see http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision/RadioAnalysis#TalkingtotheRadio).
But it did not work on a HTC Desire S.
1) Could you develop on your "fastboot kernal" commands ? How do you do what you are talking about ?
2) I know where the security flag is for the HTC Desire Z but not for the Desire S, I would need to backup all the partitions, S-OFF it and then make a diff to identify it.
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Well, this idea actually belongs to the guys over at the wildfire s s-off campaign( had to be said )
The way it works is that you issue a kernal, or clockworkmod recovery for that matter, with new paramiters for the mtd partitions via fastboot and when that new kernal is loaded the "unmaped areas will then be mapped. Then as you said for point 2 you would dump both before and after the xtc clip and !hopefully! It would show the location of the s-off. The partition information will be device specific, so each device and hboot would need to be accounted for. But, the theory is solid. The only issue the wfs guys are having is trying to write to the nand. But with an s-off device I hope this wouldn't be an issue. If you head over to there s-off campaign you will find out alot more on this idea.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
heavy_metal_man said:
Well, this idea actually belongs to the guys over at the wildfire s s-off campaign( had to be said )
The way it works is that you issue a kernal, or clockworkmod recovery for that matter, with new paramiters for the mtd partitions via fastboot and when that new kernal is loaded the "unmaped areas will then be mapped. Then as you said for point 2 you would dump both before and after the xtc clip and !hopefully! It would show the location of the s-off. The partition information will be device specific, so each device and hboot would need to be accounted for. But, the theory is solid. The only issue the wfs guys are having is trying to write to the nand. But with an s-off device I hope this wouldn't be an issue. If you head over to there s-off campaign you will find out alot more on this idea.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
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Great. Thanks for pointing me to [WFSdev][THE S-OFF CAMPAIGN] Kernal experts needed - exploit is being developed!. Even if they "only" want to get HBOOT S-OFF (different from radio S-OFF that we get with the XTC Clip), the idea behind consisting in using "fastboot boot" to boot a kernel and mapping the usually unallowed partitions differently is an idea that needs to be look at deeply.
The magic is with the following command:
Code:
./fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
Hello everyone I'am in kinda need of help
You see I tried to simunlock my desire 520 which leads me to various sections and posts in this sub.
Through reading I found out that first I need to S-OFF my phone to be able to do that (and root)
the thing is all what I found on the sub are the following:
1. To S-Off my phone it has to be rooted or
2. To root my phone it has to be S-Offed
which is neither of the two I have and is confusing me on how to get it done.
Also I read somewhere that HTC Desire has HBoot but mine don't have.
On the boot loader (white screen thingy) there's nothing there that states the HBoot version although I found some here which guides me on how to install HBoot but the thing is. It is for Froyo or will make my Android version to Froyo (Im on 5.1 that's why im unsure if it is okay or not).
Well all what I really need is to Sim Unlock my phone if there is other way around or someone could guide me itwould really be a great help! Thanks and more power to you peeps!
itzmexei said:
Hello everyone I'am in kinda need of help
You see I tried to simunlock my desire 520 which leads me to various sections and posts in this sub.
Through reading I found out that first I need to S-OFF my phone to be able to do that (and root)
the thing is all what I found on the sub are the following:
1. To S-Off my phone it has to be rooted or
2. To root my phone it has to be S-Offed
which is neither of the two I have and is confusing me on how to get it done.
Also I read somewhere that HTC Desire has HBoot but mine don't have.
On the boot loader (white screen thingy) there's nothing there that states the HBoot version although I found some here which guides me on how to install HBoot but the thing is. It is for Froyo or will make my Android version to Froyo (Im on 5.1 that's why im unsure if it is okay or not).
Well all what I really need is to Sim Unlock my phone if there is other way around or someone could guide me itwould really be a great help! Thanks and more power to you peeps!
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Google = htc desire 520 wordpress or htcdesire520 wordpress com
*My blog should show up in the first index search of the results which has detailed EVERYTHING you need to root/unlock your phone completely*