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Arc S has a horrible camera quality

Hello, i bought a new Arc S. I found, that camera produces really low quality pictures. Is there any way to improve compression? I heard, that CM has a improved quality camera.
Thank you

Hello there
Unfortunately, there is currently no option available to improve the crappy quality of the camera output (compression).
Neither CM7 nor MIUI have any significant improvement in this area.

Are you sure you bought an arc because my arc takes good pics but it isn't an arc s but I find this hard to believe maybe your only taking pictures in the dark ?

Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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I've bought an Xperia Arc S too about a month ago, but in my opinion the camera is fantastic! Maybe you have to set the camera in high quality. My camera was also standard at 2 MP 16:9. Now I'm using 6 MP 16:9 and the pictures are great, even in the dark.

septix said:
Check your settings. Some phones have the camera set to poor quality from start.
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Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?

rioka said:
Resolution is already set to 8Mpixels.
Which other settings could I check?
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I'd recommend 6 MP, because it has a 16:9 instead of a 4:3 format.

Mine works awesome with 8MP...
Could you post a pic made by your cam?
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I would also recommend you post the picture you have taken, x10 and arc are best known as their 8M camera, they should be able to take impressive picture compared to all the phone available back then and even able to compete among all phones on the market to date
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I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.

I don't say my arc is perfect but It's not really that bad in taking picture .
I'm ok with it ...
Using 6MP 16:9,
maybe Your lens is dirty ! clean it if it's needed.

arc is one of the best camera phones out there.if not the best.

Best camera 2011/2012, it won that price
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The camera is great - no 2 opinions about that.
But after I downgraded from .62 to .42 with data&system wipe, because of the root, my phone started to take really low quality pics in low light - identical conditions, the same camera settings, but now pics appear with a great level of noise, nomatter how I adjust the settings. On videos also. This is my second time downgrading from 62, the first time without wipe - everything was OK, but now I think smthing must have gone wrong - lots of noise and heavy purple dots...
Any ideas how to fix that, cause I really miss the good low light pics - one of the reasons I bought it.

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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+1
Maybe some users are expecting a miracle out of arc's camera (e.g. comparing the pictures against DSLRs' large sensor and lens)
Its great for casual shots and videos imo.
It even won an EISA award.

The camera is great, the software is horrible. MIUI and CM7 support to change the jpg compression, which the stock ROM doesn't. The jpg compression sadly ****s up everything and destroys the overall quality of the shots.

I find the quality of the arc's shots to be great, I don't understand why so many people complain. Yes the output file is pretty small for an 8MP resolution photo because its been compressed to ****, but I don't really notice this, even when plugging into my 42" TV it still looks great (until you start to zoom in) Take a range of shots, when shooting in darkness you will find a decent amount of noise but this is just the Exmor-r working wonders - without it, you'd find you'd just have a very dark picture.

Like many people already said, I'm totally happy with the picture's quality of my ARC, especially on 6MP 16:9. I love the colors, the tones, the clarity.. I'm sure that Sony (still SE for me ) will improve a little about JPEG compression in next ICS release..

iridaki said:
I don't understand people who say Arc camera is crappy.
It's the best I've ever used in a mobile phone to date.
It can't be compared to my compact camera but it's a phone after all
and the results are more than decent for quick shots.
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Exactly. Only my old Nokia N95 comes close, but that also was a little sony carl zeiss optic if i recall correctly.

Arc S camera is crappy.
I know it, because i used a Samsung mobile for a long time before Arc S, to take more than 4K pcs photos, so i can compare them.
It makes a lot of color noise under low light conditions of scenes.
Even a bit better when the light is enough, but then it makes white burned photos
The objective is distorted (fish eye aka barell), and also makes color noises in its corners.
The video record of this mobile is blurred, shaked, in low light condition makes color noises too.
You have to use Noiseware, or similar software to remove unwanted color noises from photos which are dotted by Xperia Arc /s
I don't know what is the meaning of the Exmore r, because i can't find a reason, maybe it' s only a commercial thingy
Sorry for my bad english.

Camera and video camera with noise on xperia ion

Hello, i have installed camera mod cyber shot and anyway when i use my video camera in my house (warm light) i see lot of noise. but when i use my video cam in the street (lightday) works 100% without noise.
i THINK (im not secure) That started when i upgraded my version of xperia ion 6.1.c.1.105 to 6.1.c.1.111.
Then i wanna know if any1 of u have a xperia ion and tell me if u have the same problem that me.
TY

Infraa said:
Hello, i have installed camera mod cyber shot and anyway when i use my video camera in my house (warm light) i see lot of noise. but when i use my video cam in the street (lightday) works 100% without noise.
i THINK (im not secure) That started when i upgraded my version of xperia ion 6.1.c.1.105 to 6.1.c.1.111.
Then i wanna know if any1 of u have a xperia ion and tell me if u have the same problem that me.
TY
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Its because when your inside the camera will bump up the ISO to compensate for low light. Which will bring in more noise. Outside theres plenty of light so the ISO will stay low (less noise)
However, in the end, I don't care what mod you install, the noise performance on this phone is bad! And you can blame Sony for shoving 12mp in such a small sensor. Its ridiculous, and not needed!

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Its because when your inside the camera will bump up the ISO to compensate for low light. Which will bring in more noise. Outside theres plenty of light so the ISO will stay low (less noise)
However, in the end, I don't care what mod you install, the noise performance on this phone is bad! And you can blame Sony for shoving 12mp in such a small sensor. Its ridiculous, and not needed!
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Thank you bro, anyway i always use 9 mp xD

Infraa said:
Thank you bro, anyway i always use 9 mp xD
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You can use 9mp all you want, it doesn't change the fact that they stuck 12mp into that sensor.
I'd at least recommend using the full 12mp and cropping after.
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Camera picture quality

Is it just me or do others think the quality of camera (both front and back) pics are not as good as the specs says ? Im not really much of a camera specialist, but do others who have used 8Mp and 5MP camera think it works good enough ? Can Firmware changes improve it ?
I have compared with a 5MP Sony Ericsson camera and don't notice really different from the 8MP of p6. Also checked the 2MP front camera of a Samsung tablet and don't notice the 5MP fromt camera of P6 any different.
Or maybe i have to upload them on PC to notice the difference.

warea said:
Is it just me or do others think the quality of camera (both front and back) pics are not as good as the specs says ? Im not really much of a camera specialist, but do others who have used 8Mp and 5MP camera think it works good enough ? Can Firmware changes improve it ?
I have compared with a 5MP Sony Ericsson camera and don't notice really different from the 8MP of p6. Also checked the 2MP front camera of a Samsung tablet and don't notice the 5MP fromt camera of P6 any different.
Or maybe i have to upload them on PC to notice the difference.
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yeaah there are no much diffs to be honest.. i is bit marketing too..
And you can tune it up a bit .. set highest settings .. or manual settings rather than auto ..

GalaxySIIII said:
yeaah there are no much diffs to be honest.. i is bit marketing too..
And you can tune it up a bit .. set highest settings .. or manual settings rather than auto ..
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But i doubt they would market something as 5MP without the hardware And if the hardware is there then maybe the software changes could better the performance. I have seen other mobiles who had crappy camera quality and their firmwares were updated to fix that.
Edit: I guess this might explain it : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-Megapixels/647/4

Work fine on mine
No big problem on my P6. The camera do need some light thou and I use the Camera JB+ app which is easer than the stock app.
Remember to let the focus work for a few extra seconds. Sometime it needs two adjustments before picture gets perfect.
Good luck!

warea said:
But i doubt they would market something as 5MP without the hardware And if the hardware is there then maybe the software changes could better the performance. I have seen other mobiles who had crappy camera quality and their firmwares were updated to fix that.
Edit: I guess this might explain it : http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-Megapixels/647/4
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yeah yeah the main is software.. the opticals are pretty much same in every device it depends of software created ..
I have china version and both camera is acceptable for me .. front camera is nice in skype..

I compared with Sony Ultra Z (8MP back camera and 2 Mp front Camera), it was nearly same in quality, but P6 seemed slightly better.. The front camera of P6 was also slightly but noticeably better although i expected it to be much better.
But my initial complains i guess is cause of the low light. All pics i took were indoors mostly. The ultra z also got review complains of a weak camera in low light. So in any case i would have to yet compare with other phones that boast of great camera to see whether the P6 performs as good enough as the specs say..
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yeah yeah the main is software.. the opticals are pretty much same in every device it depends of software created ..
I have china version and both camera is acceptable for me .. front camera is nice in skype..
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The performance is good enough for me too but i had more expectation about the front camera being a 5MP. Anyway Ill have a check how it is on skype.

warea said:
I compared with Sony Ultra Z (8MP back camera and 2 Mp front Camera), it was nearly same in quality, but P6 seemed slightly better.. The front camera of P6 was also slightly but noticeably better although i expected it to be much better.
But my initial complains i guess is cause of the low light. All pics i took were indoors mostly. The ultra z also got review complains of a weak camera in low light. So in any case i would have to yet compare with other phones that boast of great camera to see whether the P6 performs as good enough as the specs say..
The performance is good enough for me too but i had more expectation about the front camera being a 5MP. Anyway Ill have a check how it is on skype.
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I have HTC One and camera is just brillint and if u require for low light this is the phone for you ..
And I have iphone 5 and obviousy there is 8 back and front 1,2 and actually for iphone they released Skype HD .. cheeky buggers.. I emailed skype like WtF? and where is android version?? they didnt reply .. and i ve tested it o ip and it looks very nice .. so it depends even for network .. u can have front camera like 12 mpx but it wont help u bcos through these apps they throttling video stream on purpose ..

How do you get the focusing right ? I have noticed that once i hit the part of the screen i want to focus, it automatically adjusts. Fine. Now, during the process of automatic focusing where it focus back and forth, the picture gets quite clear for less that a second, but by the end of the focusing the pic gets grainy. So the picture taken at the end of focusing remains that grainy quality while if i was to quickly take pic in between focusing during the millisecond of clear time, i get the pic way more clear.
Im trying pics in indoors under a bright enough fluorescent light.
Edit: Okay i think i get it. Whenever the object i want to take pic seems grainy on screen, i hit the focus again and again until it gets clear. A couple of times is enough but i do notice that at first touch of focus the pic don't necessarily come clear and have to hit it once or twice more to get it clear.

Camera Pro's and Con's. Review

What can you say to camera?
I think everythin is amazing on this smartphone, but the camera is not that good.
I do not know if its because of the software. But what do you think? Pro's and Con's of the camera.
Con's:
i think OIS

OIS is missing on alot of camera sensors especially those 20mp+ phones, Its not a biggie unless the camera holder has shaky hands. Also, we can't mourn over LG's signature Laser AF technology either.
Personally, the pixel size being smaller is a big hit on the head for a 16mp sensor. Moreover, it disturbs the low light/iso photography as well. LeEco's own camera software applies some kind of smoothing filter to eat alot of detail on the compromise of noise removal.
I've taken pictures from Cyanogenmod 13 and they are alot better than EUI camera.

Ok thank you.
What is a gold camera App for shooting pictures?

5.9 for China adds EIS to camera. I am betting when we get that update pictures and video will look better.

The quality is bad when u zoom in the photos, especially in low light condition
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Question Camera sensor replace!?!?!?!?

If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?

Buying a different camera sensor will not work. First of all the contacts to attach it to the daughter board will be different. Secondly it probably won't fit in the cameras space and so would rattle. Thirdly the firmware wouldn't understand the output of the sensor. Sorry

if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.

dfps123 said:
If i buy a diferent sensor can i replace it and will it funcion normaly? Or would need some custom firmware?
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Someone tried a IMX686 (or IMX 682) from a K40 Pro in the standard K40(actually vice versa but the point still stands) and it will not work. If you can read chinese then watch this video. Basically the camera module can fit in the connector and can fit in the frame but it will not work both in standard and 48MP mode as the driver is missing.

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if only android worked as proper os with modular drivers or should i say it's Qualcomm fault.... as far as my testing i think sensors on poco f3 are not bad at all it's the software that counts these days, if you can tweak gcam you can get good results in color reproduction and dynamic range and video quality as well, keep in mind that all phone camera systems have limitations and the best bet is getting a cheap used compact camera like lumix lx10 or sony rx100 or canon g7x.
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Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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Stoffl_ said:
Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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For me the sensor is like lightyears ahead of my old phone, that thing can't even take a low light photo without blur in 80% of scenarios. Probably because my standards are set so low that this sensor is amazing to me.

Stoffl_ said:
Nah the sensor is objectively awful, especially in low light conditions. My 3 year old MI 8 has a better sensor.
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imx363 is a very good sensor even if it's lacking pixel banding but what make the difference is the lenses, tbh they used a higher quality one in mi8 compared to f3, also the lack of ois on f3 affects low light quality