GPS and Email encryption - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Hey,
Anyone else having problems with GPS when they have their device encrypted? My work email requires me to encrypt the hard drive on the phone, but once I do that, my GPS no longer works. If I un-encrypt the phone my GPS works again, but I can no longer access my work email. Anyone with a similar experience or thoughts on how to fix this?
Thanks

As a matter of fact you may be on to something. I was testing the GPS out on Friday when I picked up the phone. It was working great. However I set up the phone this weekend and encrypted the device. I have been unable to lock a signal since. Other than device encryption nothing has been modified on the device.

Anyone else having a similar issue? Or anyone able to encrypt their phone and still have GPS work?

The stock email app required me to encrypt the SD and enter a ridiculous unlock screen pass. I installed Exchange by Touchdown and now I have a simpler pass that is only required to view email in the app, and the SD card can remain unencrypted .

JAMBergie said:
Anyone else having a similar issue? Or anyone able to encrypt their phone and still have GPS work?
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Looks like we're alone in this boat.

The GPS in the epic 4g touch is pure ****. I put it next to my EVO 3D using the GPS test app. EVO 3D found
8-10 satellites, the epic 4g touch found none. unacceptable, Samsung still sucks.
Oh, I've never used encryption.
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Yeah Samsung must not have learned anything from the complaints about the first galaxy s gps problems. Maybe they're just too big of a company to give a poop. I wanted to keep my captivate on at&t but the bad gps was bothering me so I switched to the iPhone which has an acceptable gps. I think motorola makes the most accurate gps and phone radio of all smartphones though not that the iPhone is lousy but moto makes phones with a great gps.

galaxyjeff said:
Yeah Samsung must not have learned anything from the complaints about the first galaxy s gps problems. Maybe they're just too big of a company to give a poop. I wanted to keep my captivate on at&t but the bad gps was bothering me so I switched to the iPhone which has an acceptable gps. I think motorola makes the most accurate gps and phone radio of all smartphones though not that the iPhone is lousy but moto makes phones with a great gps.
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GPS on my EVO 3D works flawlessly.
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sdc177 said:
GPS on my EVO 3D works flawlessly.
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Htc makes phones with great gps radios also. The gps in a smartphone whether it's android or iPhone is a huge feature for finding locations of businesses nearby and free turn by turn directions and other apps. Samsung should not keep producing android phones with a gps that doesn't work as advertised.

JAMBergie said:
Hey,
Anyone else having problems with GPS when they have their device encrypted? My work email requires me to encrypt the hard drive on the phone, but once I do that, my GPS no longer works. If I un-encrypt the phone my GPS works again, but I can no longer access my work email. Anyone with a similar experience or thoughts on how to fix this?
Thanks
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Same problem here . Encrypted phone, no ability to lock a gps signal. Unencrypted works perfect

Same problem
Can someone please confirm that they don't have this problem.
My GPS works great when I turn off encryption but conks out when encryption is on
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this is from samsung..... bla bla bla...
Visitor:
i have spent 10+ hours looking into this as a problem. the epic touch 4g stock works fine. gps etc.. however on any et4g if you go to settings --> locations and security --> and turn on the encrypt phone option it will reboot, encrypt the data and the gps will no longer work.
Visitor:
if i decrypt the phone the gps will resume functioning
Visitor:
however, in light of recent android security issues i must have the ability to encrypt my phone. so i went to sprint and we tested to see if this was just an issue with my phone. it turns out that this happened on all 7 phones we tested
Suzanne: I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you .
Suzanne: May I know since when are you experiencing this issue?
Visitor:
this is an easily reproduced problem. and seems to happen on all epic touch 4g phones as far as i can tell
Visitor:
this happened the minute i encrypted the phone.
Suzanne: Would you mind holding 3 minutes while I gather the required information on your request?
Suzanne: Thank you for holding.
Suzanne: Device Encryption is a safe with a security solution that helps protect mobile data without the need to sacrifice speed and functionality. The Samsung Galaxy S II contains powerful encrypted hardware, minimising the use of security software and applying encryption technology to the hardware itself. The incorporated Sybase Afaria Mobile Device Management and Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync complement the encryption support with their own mechanisms to help secure important corporate and personal information
Suzanne: So when you select encrypt device due to security reasons It might be stopping GPS also.
Suzanne: So I request you to please don't select device Encryptionto access GPS.
Visitor:
it does not stop the device from getting my location as long as the option is chosen to use the data network. It does however disable the ability for the gps sat lock. i want to preface that with that the motorola atrix / htc evo's and other sprint branded phones have the encryption option and dont have any issue with getting a sat lock
Suzanne: I will surely pass on this issue to our support team I appreciate you to bringing this issue to our notice.
Suzanne: I can understand your concern.
Suzanne: The phone is designed in such a way that if you select device Encryption it will not allow access GPS.
Visitor:
since this is easy to reproduce is it possible for you to confirm my findings and possibly let me know when a fix could be anticipated
Suzanne: Unfortunately, there is no specific ETA mentioned for the release of the fix at this moment, once the release is official you can find it on Samsung website.
Visitor: i appreciate your comments but i do not believe that this is how the device was designed to work. Is there someone who can call me on this ? i just need to get a good idea if this is a bug or if you guys intend to fix.
Suzanne: I am sorry to inform you we are not having the access to call to customers. However, you can contact our dedicated Galaxy S phones voice support team at 1-877-EZ2GALAXY (1-877-392-4252).They are available 24/7. You will need to registered to avail 24x 7 service.
Visitor: ok, i will give it a try
AND SO MY JOURNEY BEGINS....

dyaga said:
Suzanne: The phone is designed in such a way that if you select device Encryption it will not allow access GPS.
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So they're saying its completely by design, encryption = no GPS? But location still works via data network.
Ugh.
Thanks for the transcript, please keep us posted if Samsung comes back to you with a "fix".

I have the same problem. I am bumping to see if someone else can help.

JAMBergie said:
Hey,
Anyone else having problems with GPS when they have their device encrypted? My work email requires me to encrypt the hard drive on the phone, but once I do that, my GPS no longer works. If I un-encrypt the phone my GPS works again, but I can no longer access my work email. Anyone with a similar experience or thoughts on how to fix this?
Thanks
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Anyone solved this problem yet ??? How... I am having the same issue now.+

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[Q] New OF1 update for Verizon breaks Smart Lock (if used w/ Exchange account)?

I'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem but it's driving me crazy. I (mistakenly) took the latest Verizon update a couple of days ago and immediately noticed that Smart Lock stopped working. I had it working perfectly with my home address and several bluetooth devices prior to the update.
I tried everything I could think of to resolve it, including disabling Smart Lock, removing and re-adding the devices, and even hard resetting my Note 4. The only way I can make it come back is to remove my Exchange account from the phone. Once I do that then Smart Lock starts working again.
Has anyone else experienced this problem or knows how to work around it? I wish I could go back and not take the update but I see now there is no way to roll back at this point. I'm going to call Verizon and try to get them to send me a refurb replacement and then block the OTA updates as soon as I get it unless someone here has a workaround I can try.
Thanks in advance. This has been very frustrating.
Apologies - I forgot to post this in the Troubleshooting forum. Can a moderator please move it?
Thanks and sorry about that.
You could use mailwise and bypass the need for exchange security.
balla48801 said:
You could use mailwise and bypass the need for exchange security.
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That's true and I did think about that. My issue is I still want the PIN unlock when I'm not home or connected to the BT in my car so I don't want to bypass it altogether.
I've seen other threads elsewhere that confirm that Smart Lock no longer works with an Exchange account so I don't think it is something our Exchange admins changed. It's disappointing that Verizon didn't catch this prior to the update since it will take them months to send out another update.
Thanks for the reply.
vmmatty said:
That's true and I did think about that. My issue is I still want the PIN unlock when I'm not home or connected to the BT in my car so I don't want to bypass it altogether.
I've seen other threads elsewhere that confirm that Smart Lock no longer works with an Exchange account so I don't think it is something our Exchange admins changed. It's disappointing that Verizon didn't catch this prior to the update since it will take them months to send out another update.
Thanks for the reply.
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It's a crappy solution, but you could use the outlook app from the play store. That's what I do since I want smart lock.
vmmatty said:
That's true and I did think about that. My issue is I still want the PIN unlock when I'm not home or connected to the BT in my car so I don't want to bypass it altogether.
I've seen other threads elsewhere that confirm that Smart Lock no longer works with an Exchange account so I don't think it is something our Exchange admins changed. It's disappointing that Verizon didn't catch this prior to the update since it will take them months to send out another update.
Thanks for the reply.
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When you bypass exchange security you can still setup a pin. This is probably not something that is broken but is now fixed. I mean if you have and exchange account setup on your phone im sure your admin would always want you to use a pin regardless of location or convenience. So with mailwise you could bypass the exchange security but still setup a lockscreen pin and use the smart lock functions as normal. If im understanding you correctly you are thinking exchange security and lockscreen security are one in the same.

Smart Lock not working at home

I have tried everything. I'm on the latest update, I have tried high accuracy and battery saving modes, I have my home address as a trusted place and it's definitely turned on. Google maps has pin pointed my location perfectly. Yet smart lock is like nope...I don't believe you.
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No one? Lol dang
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I have the same issue
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Clear it and reset it. I had to do that a few times and for now....it seems to have stuck.
Had to do that for my work as well.
I'll have to try again when I get home. Thanks for the reply
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If you have an exchange server for email for work/school setup on the phone, they will enforce policies such as requiring pin / fingerprint unlock
Fortunately no exchange set up ?
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I've had these issues since they switched from wifi networks as the id to google maps address. Hit n miss since then I added face unlock as a backup solution. If you find a better resolution please let us know.
same issue here....they are replacing the device for me
wickets said:
same issue here....they are replacing the device for me
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Your replacement will have the same problem. This is not a hardware issue. Also I suggest that you save 4-5 locations for your home. Every time you click on "Add trusted place", it will probably locate you with slightly different coordinates and that might help.
backslashV said:
Your replacement will have the same problem. This is not a hardware issue. Also I suggest that you save 4-5 locations for your home. Every time you click on "Add trusted place", it will probably locate you with slightly different coordinates and that might help.
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Thanks for the response, but if it isnt device specific (software or otherwise) why are there so few reports about it? Also, the trusted place/device issue isnt about staying unlocked when its supposed to. The problem is that the device doesnt LOCK when you leave a trusted place or move away from a trusted device. Never had these issues with the 6p
Got no problems with smart lock at home, work and the house of my mother in law.
Also no problems with my Huawei Watch and the Bluetooth stereo in the car.
wickets said:
Thanks for the response, but if it isnt device specific (software or otherwise) why are there so few reports about it? Also, the trusted place/device issue isnt about staying unlocked when its supposed to. The problem is that the device doesnt LOCK when you leave a trusted place or move away from a trusted device. Never had these issues with the 6p
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I'm pretty sure it's a software issue. I had the problem with my nexus 6, nexus 6p, and now the pixel xl. Regarding the number of reports, I'm guessing smart lock is not widely adopted yet. Oh by the way, mine locks fine in not trusted areas. It just doesn't unlock when I'm in a trusted zone.
I've got a similar problem. The phone never unlocks when I'm at a trusted location. It unlocks when I'm connected to a trusted Bluetooth though. I've set the location using both my address and by using the Google Maps screen. Nothing works.

VoIP problem

At my job, we use an Allworx VoIP phone system that offers an app for a soft phone. I was using it for about 8 months on the 6p with no issues, then on the note 7 until I had to give it back. On the pixel, we're having some issues where the phone will stop being able to connect back to the server when on wifi after a day or less. If I switch to 4g it will connect, then go back to wifi and it still won't. Reboot the phone and it works... For a short time. I called tech support for the company and they acknowledged a problem with the pixel and said it is up to Google to fix, it's not a problem with their app. They didn't offer me much info aside from that.
Has anyone heard any specific issues with the network stack on the pixel or with anything else that might cause this on this device but no others? I'd love to find some other workaround aside from rebooting my phone every few hours to stay connected when I'm not physically in the office.

Is there any way to fix smart lock's "trusted places" feature

Smart lock's trusted places is a great feature to keep your phone locked while at home but it never works reliably. I had an S8 and was never able to get it working either. I've scoured the internet and tried every remedy I can find. I can get smart lock to keep my phone unlocked for a few hours sometimes but it always fails at some point and requires a fingerprint again even while at home. It works very reliably connected to my car as a trusted device.
Has anyone found a way to fix this problem and get smart lock to work for more than just a few hours? Is this a Samsung issue or an Android problem? I do see people with other devices complaining as well so I'm assuming it is an Android problem.
skiddingus said:
Smart lock's trusted places is a great feature to keep your phone locked while at home but it never works reliably. I had an S8 and was never able to get it working either. I've scoured the internet and tried every remedy I can find. I can get smart lock to keep my phone unlocked for a few hours sometimes but it always fails at some point and requires a fingerprint again even while at home. It works very reliably connected to my car as a trusted device.
Has anyone found a way to fix this problem and get smart lock to work for more than just a few hours? Is this a Samsung issue or an Android problem? I do see people with other devices complaining as well so I'm assuming it is an Android problem.
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It's a known bug with Android. There are threads in the Google support forums.
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ergalthema said:
It's a known bug with Android. There are threads in the Google support forums.
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That's what I thought but this issue has been going on for years. Why can't Google just let us use Wifi to keep the phone unlocked? It would be so simple.
After 4 hours of not interacting with the phone it will require you to use a biometric or pin/password. That's by design. Not sure if that's your issue or not. I use a BT connection as my smart unlock at home, and it works fine.
meyerweb said:
After 4 hours of not interacting with the phone it will require you to use a biometric or pin/password. That's by design. Not sure if that's your issue or not. I use a BT connection as my smart unlock at home, and it works fine.
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That's not the issue. It will lock immediately after turning off the screen, and often immediately after adding a new safe area coordinates from the same location....
Do you have location set to high accuracy?
I have it set to high accuracy and same issue. Even after using biometrics to unlock (for example when waking up in the morning) trusted places still doesn't work. Super annoying.
In my S7 edge it worked much better than in this s9. Really super annoying
Daagen said:
In my S7 edge it worked much better than in this s9. Really super annoying
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I have a S7 edge too and on this device Smart Lock trusted places has suddenly become totally unreliable recently (since few weeks approximately).
I'd really like being able to use Wifi instead as @skiddingus suggested.

Question Hacked pixel 6

Can anyone help me carrier unlock my Verizon phone? My phone has been hacked and I hope being able to flash it will help me to get rid of whatever they have done to it. Can anyone tell me why I get this message when I reset my phone? Any help would be greatly appreciated
there is no carrier unlock for VZW models. if you can boot into recovery, sideload the OTA version that was last on your device.
What did you do that resulted in the phone being hacked? With the sectors being wiped that are shown in the images, it looks like you have provided total device access to something whilst having an unlocked bootloader or something similar. If you let us know what happened, it might help us to figure out what options you may still have.
But definitely see if you can do what @uicnren mentioned first.
Im not sure who or how they wiped anything. It happened one day after connecting to my girlfriends wifi. I got ahold of Verizon and they sent me a new phone and as soon as I started it the same thing happened to it also
How do I find what OTA version was used on my phone?
Nothing hacked here... this is an error when wiping the Secure Element (the trusted secure module).
(https://android-review.linaro.org/p...cure_element/1.0/SecureElementHalCallback.cpp line #66)
Are you initiating the wipe from the recovery? If so, that's likely the reason. If there is an account attached to the device, a wipe must first be initiated from within Android (Settings)
Woodruff87 said:
Im not sure who or how they wiped anything. It happened one day after connecting to my girlfriends wifi. I got ahold of Verizon and they sent me a new phone and as soon as I started it the same thing happened to it also
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what symptoms were you seeing that made you think you were hacked?
Those errors are normal in Recovery Mode. I see them all the time, sometimes they don't appear, usually they do.
Did you remove your google accounts from settings, do a factory reset from the reset menu and lastly in recovery mode where you posted the screenshots from.
Your Account might be hacked but the phone is unlikely hacked. You would get a message at boot telling you that the device has been modified. With a locked bootloader its extremely unlikely (unless NSO Group is targeting you).
Woodruff87 said:
Can anyone help me carrier unlock my Verizon phone? My phone has been hacked and I hope being able to flash it will help me to get rid of whatever they have done to it. Can anyone tell me why I get this message when I reset my phone? Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Did you unlock the bootloader? Have custom firmware/kernel installed?
A "hacker" wins nothing by resetting/wiping your phone. They want data, and that only works if the phone can turn on and works. This looks like a wipe/factory reset gone wrong, which spells user error or software error and less likely a "hacker" attack. Most hacks you will never notice. A hacker that makes you notice that something went wrong, is either an amateur or did it on purpose. Ergo, he wants you to know that something went wrong, which usually only happens in order to extort you. If there is no extortion, then an obvious act by a hacker is highly unlikely.
We need some more information. What firmware had you installed? What happened exactly when. Did you install any new apps recently? What did you do prior to something going wrong? All the information that could help us troubleshoot your issue.
You said your phone wiped itself a day after connecting to your girlfriends wifi, and that a replacement device that you got sent by your carrier, did the same. Did you check your Google account? Do you have two factor authentication activated? It sounds like your phone got wiped over wifi, which would require access to your Google account. It's just odd that you get errors, which normally shouldn't happen if someone would use the erase a lost Android device function.
It's also possible that your backup from your GAccount is simply corrupted (many people had issues with random reboots). You should try and set up your (replacement) phone anew without any backup, maybe that can fix your issue.
Beyond that Google account thing-y, anything else is highly unlikely. Even specialized companies have serious issues getting into a modern smartphone, lest alone an Android 12 phone with a Google Server grade Titan m2 chip. The newer the firmware, the less likely the chance that someone from the outside could get in, especially with a phone like a Pixel that isn't very common. Most security firms/govermental agencies can only abuse older, known security loopholes. It's more likely that very popular phones like a Samsung or IPhone are targets from "the bad guys", since there will be bigger payoff for breaking the security of those phones, since there is a greater pool of users to target. Most hacks I've witnessed weren't random, they were targeted. Ask yourself: Am I worth the trouble of getting hacked? Do you have anything of interest on your phone that would warrant an excessive use of resources? Managing to hack a Pixel is not only unlikely in terms of the security you need to breach, but also in terms of the potential payoff in relation to the necessary knowhow and resources. It's just "not worth it".
What you should do immediately, just in case, is secure your Google account. Change your password. Maybe even change your two-factor authentication, if you have one (sms is not secure, use a token generating software/device). Change the wifi password from your girlfriend and check the list of connected devices. make a list of these connected devices + history (find that in the rooter software) and check them against the devices you know of. Also check the list of connected devices to your GAccount. Use the option to log out ALL devices from your Google account, so only your device is connected.
Do any other people have access to your phone? Do any other people know your passwords? Does your girlfriend has access? Do any other people have biometric security saved on your phone? Do you trust your girlfriend completely?
Make sure you use a special, new password for your GAccount, never reuse old ones that you have used somewhere else. Also check your emails on https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Beyond that, if you are not doing already, use a password manager.
Woodruff87 said:
Im not sure who or how they wiped anything. It happened one day after connecting to my girlfriends wifi. I got ahold of Verizon and they sent me a new phone and as soon as I started it the same thing happened to it also
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Wait a sec. Verizon sent you a new (refurbished probably but new nonetheless) phone and when you turned it on weren't you greeted with the startup menu? Am I missing something?
Morgrain said:
Did you unlock the bootloader? Have custom firmware/kernel installed?
A "hacker" wins nothing by resetting/wiping your phone. They want data, and that only works if the phone can turn on and works. This looks like a wipe/factory reset gone wrong, which spells user error or software error and less likely a "hacker" attack. Most hacks you will never notice. A hacker that makes you notice that something went wrong, is either an amateur or did it on purpose. Ergo, he wants you to know that something went wrong, which usually only happens in order to extort you. If there is no extortion, then an obvious act by a hacker is highly unlikely.
We need some more information. What firmware had you installed? What happened exactly when. Did you install any new apps recently? What did you do prior to something going wrong? All the information that could help us troubleshoot your issue.
You said your phone wiped itself a day after connecting to your girlfriends wifi, and that a replacement device that you got sent by your carrier, did the same. Did you check your Google account? Do you have two factor authentication activated? It sounds like your phone got wiped over wifi, which would require access to your Google account. It's just odd that you get errors, which normally shouldn't happen if someone would use the erase a lost Android device function.
It's also possible that your backup from your GAccount is simply corrupted (many people had issues with random reboots). You should try and set up your (replacement) phone anew without any backup, maybe that can fix your issue.
Beyond that Google account thing-y, anything else is highly unlikely. Even specialized companies have serious issues getting into a modern smartphone, lest alone an Android 12 phone with a Google Server grade Titan m2 chip. The newer the firmware, the less likely the chance that someone from the outside could get in, especially with a phone like a Pixel that isn't very common. Most security firms/govermental agencies can only abuse older, known security loopholes. It's more likely that very popular phones like a Samsung or IPhone are targets from "the bad guys", since there will be bigger payoff for breaking the security of those phones, since there is a greater pool of users to target. Most hacks I've witnessed weren't random, they were targeted. Ask yourself: Am I worth the trouble of getting hacked? Do you have anything of interest on your phone that would warrant an excessive use of resources? Managing to hack a Pixel is not only unlikely in terms of the security you need to breach, but also in terms of the potential payoff in relation to the necessary knowhow and resources. It's just "not worth it".
What you should do immediately, just in case, is secure your Google account. Change your password. Maybe even change your two-factor authentication, if you have one (sms is not secure, use a token generating software/device). Change the wifi password from your girlfriend and check the list of connected devices. make a list of these connected devices + history (find that in the rooter software) and check them against the devices you know of. Also check the list of connected devices to your GAccount. Use the option to log out ALL devices from your Google account, so only your device is connected.
Do any other people have access to your phone? Do any other people know your passwords? Does your girlfriend has access? Do any other people have biometric security saved on your phone? Do you trust your girlfriend completely?
Make sure you use a special, new password for your GAccount, never reuse old ones that you have used somewhere else. Also check your emails on https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Beyond that, if you are not doing already, use a password manager.
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Thanks I really appreciate the help and all the advice. I checked https://haveibeenpwned.com/ and my account has been pawned in 1 data breach... I will deactivate the Google account and start over fresh. Thanks again for all the info
bencozzy said:
Two things are they refurbished? And do they work without signing into google?
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The first one was new, but the one I got from Google as a replacement was refurbished. Ill try resetting through the settings and deactivating all my accounts.
Woodruff87 said:
Thanks I really appreciate the help and all the advice. I checked https://haveibeenpwned.com/ and my account has been pawned in 1 data breach... I will deactivate the Google account and start over fresh. Thanks again for all the info
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This, among many other things, is one of the reasons I use GrapheneOS and NO gooble services (despite all the attention they give to sandboxed gooble services).
Woodruff87 said:
Thanks I really appreciate the help and all the advice. I checked https://haveibeenpwned.com/ and my account has been pawned in 1 data breach... I will deactivate the Google account and start over fresh. Thanks again for all the info
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your google address was found on that site for another service and you used the same password for both services, correct?
despite what some believe, your google account will not get hacked unless your password is insecure (ie. leaked or insufficient with 2FA). anything less and your asking for trouble (also using GrapheneOS).

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