Does the Samsung Epic Touch 4G support 3G Rev b? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Hello,
I heard sprint is updating their 3G network to rev b which could provide very fast 3G coverage - faster than 4G in some cases. Anyone know if the new Epic Touch 4G does rev b? I know the evdo 3d can do rev b.

Yes it will.
http://gizmofusion.com/2011/09/spri...1x-advanced-much-faster-3g-speeds-on-the-way/

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Yes it will.
http://gizmofusion.com/2011/09/spri...1x-advanced-much-faster-3g-speeds-on-the-way/
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Thanks - I couldn't find anything concrete in the specs on the ET4G. All of the specs sheets I could find on it said EV-DO Rev A.

Nice.
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This isn't confirmed yet, only a rumor. I sure hope it is true though!

Same here!
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ya i cant wait for the Oct 7th sprint announcement

Small update
http://gizmofusion.com/2011/09/sprint-upgrading-existing-3g-coverage-area-to-evdo-rev-b-october-7th/

yes! I saw 1600kbps download on 3g today...repeated multiple times. Once I left the area it went back to normal speed, so the tower I was connected to must have the latest and greatest. It wasn't that fast 2months ago in the exact same spot.

eagercrow said:
yes! I saw 1600kbps download on 3g today...repeated multiple times. Once I left the area it went back to normal speed, so the tower I was connected to must have the latest and greatest. It wasn't that fast 2months ago in the exact same spot.
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You just got a nicely performing evdo rev a cell site. Rev b should be much faster. Dies anybody know if the EVO view supports rev b?
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mrrricky said:
You just got a nicely performing evdo rev a cell site. Rev b should be much faster. Dies anybody know if the EVO view supports rev b?
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Is that under optimal conditions. IE nobody connected to the tower? When I go out to the country (I live in farming area) I get decent speeds, but as soon as I get into the city data speeds get miserable. This was in the middle of the city.
I saw some other strange things this evening near my house where I get almost no service...I think they are gearing up for the iphone.

According to this it will
http://gizmofusion.com/2011/09/sprint-upgrading-existing-3g-coverage-area-to-evdo-rev-b-october-7th/

I've always wondered tho.....those speeds are they best case (1 person connected) or are they realistic (1,000 phones connected?)?

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Is that under optimal conditions. IE nobody connected to the tower? When I go out to the country (I live in farming area) I get decent speeds, but as soon as I get into the city data speeds get miserable. This was in the middle of the city.
I saw some other strange things this evening near my house where I get almost no service...I think they are gearing up for the iphone.
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Interesting that you say that... When I go to my cottage up in the middle of the woods of northern Wisconsin, I get 3G roaming from Alltel (I think CellOne bought those particular towers, not Verizon), I get FAR faster data speeds than I do in the middle of Milwaukee.

Bit confusing this thread sez it suppots revb but then this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272773
sez no rev b. Wonder which way it will end up ...

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.12Mb/sec roaming

Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference
yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.
I thought verizon dramatically throttles it for roaming.
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dead78 said:
yeah well the best Sprint 3G I can get in my neighborhood is about .25 Mbps. And it's true for many parts of Manhattan, you can't crack .5 Mbps.
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I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn you 4g'ers lol. Kauai doesn't have 4g yet
It all has to do with the 3g radio in the phone...It sucks...I'm in Dallas TX and I get speeds so low I can't load a web site through opera mini. Any other phone I owned Evo4g and 3d where not that slow at all. 4g is not strong enough to keep a signal while moving/driving so I dont use it much.
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Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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This. And it's not just this phone.
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squshy 7 said:
Actually, it has all to do with your prl...unless you're on an old or select business prl, almost all current prls only allow 1xrtt data on roaming. So the speeds you are seeing are actually normal 1x speeds
Its confusing though, since our phones seem to be lacking the 1x icon
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Actually in many areas, the PRL entry for Verizon is defined to search for Verizon 1x signal while also searching for Sprint EV signal. So you could actually be roaming on Verizon for voice, have the EV/3G indicator, but still be using Sprint for EV/3G data.
This can lead to even more confusion.
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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bluefire808 said:
Can I get a verizon PRL so I can ise there 3g?
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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Description says it all. When I roam onto Verizons towers I only get. 12Mb/sec which is almost no internet at all. Is there a way to fix this? I know the signle from my tower would give me 2.5-3Mb/sec on my evo just a few weeks ago. Ideas guys? Oh i use Roam Controle to switch over to Verizon if that makes a difference
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LOL I normally get about .20mbps on Sprint's terrible 3G network, and still no 4G here in Phoenix.
You have to admit Sprints 3G network is a joke. I was sitting at dinner earlier right next to the tower and I was barely breaking 1mbps.
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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Speed? Any LOS's?
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That's not going to help you...Go to the link he posted above and i am sure no one is successfully roaming on 3g on a Samsung phone. Well not SG2 atleast.
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My Moment (August, anyway) was able to roam on 3G in northern Wisconsin. Of course, I believe that that part of AllTel went to Cellular One, not Verizon. That's probably the difference.
In fact, I often got better data speeds in the middle of the forest up north than I do at home in Milwaukee. I usually got 150-200kBs (bytes, not bits) whereas at home, I get 15-20kBs.
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Speed? Any LOS's?
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speed heavily depends on time and location
can be anywhere from 500kbs-1.5mbs but as slow as 200 if the tower is super hogged.
Never had a LOS, stock kernel + root
graffixnyc said:
I dont use 3g much in Manhattan. But where I live(in queens) and where I work and go to school (midtown) I have an awesome 4g signal. When I'm inside, I average anywhere from 6-9mbps and when I'm outside I get about 9-11mbps
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Damn I would kill for those speeds. In midtown manhattan and on 4G I can only get around 5mbps download (standing next to a window) and 350kbps download.
I can't even get 4G signal in my house downtown. I get only 1 or 2 bars for 3G unless I am standing next to a window.
I need to test the speed of the 3G next time I roam.
this is fps test. hope the pic works this time
From what I understand Verizon does not support 3G roaming with Sprint phones you will only get 1x service. 3G roaming was a deal with Alltel, who got bought out by Verizon and ATT. You are going to get crappy speeds if you are roaming on Verizon.

Slow Network Speeds?

I hate tech support calls, I have no patience for those calls because I'm above them technically in so many ways (not to sound conceited, but I work in IT for a living, and I'm high up the chain).
What type of network speed is this thing supposed to get on Sprint? On average, I'm not getting any faster than 5mbit.
I'm lucky if I ever get over 1mbit here in Orange County. Usually get 0.5mbps here. Only in off hours do I ever go over that, so I know it's not even my reception. Just their crap network. Freaking sprint...
agentfazexx said:
I hate tech support calls, I have no patience for those calls because I'm above them technically in so many ways (not to sound conceited, but I work in IT for a living, and I'm high up the chain).
What type of network speed is this thing supposed to get on Sprint? On average, I'm not getting any faster than 5mbit.
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Depends on your area. I don't have 4g and my 3g sucks as well. I get around 200-400 kbps. Luckily I use my wifi.
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musclehead84 said:
Depends on your area. I don't have 4g and my 3g sucks as well. I get around 200-400 kbps. Luckily I use my wifi.
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I'm right outside Baltimore. 4G bounces up and down all the time, it's pretty bad.
I don't have 4G in my area, but my 3G speeds are posted in my sig. Anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 usually.
05GT said:
I don't have 4G in my area, but my 3G speeds are posted in my sig. Anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 usually.
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Yeah, that's what I get on 4G a lot of times.
The problem seems to be at home, at work is pretty quick. At home I'm getting 2mbit. How do I approach Sprint support with this issue? I am tired of the stupid "turn your phone on and off" troubleshooting.
I think your fighting a losing battle because its probably not the phone as much as it is the network. Guess we will find out what the plans are at the big event coming up
Not sure if this will work for you but i went here and it actually boosted my 3g by over 400+ kbps. now i normally pull about 1.5 Mbps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283229
ilostmypistons said:
I think your fighting a losing battle because its probably not the phone as much as it is the network. Guess we will find out what the plans are at the big event coming up
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What event?
The only event I know of is when they announce that they're carrying the iPhone.
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The only event I know of is when they announce that they're carrying the iPhone.
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They announce their network plans today at 930 eastern time.
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craigbailey1986 said:
They announce their network plans today at 930 eastern time.
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Ah nice. Where can I read about it? I'm at work at the moment.
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Ah nice. Where can I read about it? I'm at work at the moment.
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I'm sure tech blogs will post articles post event. I believe Eric Zeman (of phonescoop.com) is at the event -- I think he'll probably provide live coverage here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/phonescooper
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I'm sure tech blogs will post articles post event. I believe Eric Zeman (of phonescoop.com) is at the event -- I think he'll probably provide live coverage here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/phonescooper
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Nice. Let's hope they actually fix their 4G coverage and increase speeds. This phone can handle some insane speeds, faster than my 35/35 Fios connection.
Well I finally got tech support after my cell service dropping over and over again, and they're saying my phone is having issues. 4G stays connected but instead of bars, I get a circle with a line through it, and it says "searching for service." This HAS to be a Sprint issue...

T-Mobile vs Sprint GS2 SpeedTest

For what its worth did a little download test about 10 sites.
Cleared cache. Both had very good signal. I'm on 4G of course.All browser settings identical.
And...yep...Epic was faster 9 out of 10 sites, usually by quite a bit.
And I'm no 'Homer'...actually pushed TMobile a split sec faster to make sure.!
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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I'd rather get that kind of 3g speed then have 4g IMO. 4g kills the battery
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WOW, 2.3 down on 3G
id take that any day over 4G, especially if it was consistent
but im not complaining I can pull 3 down in my office, and 2 down in my house...just have to stay still lol
it kills the battery, but my 3G is in the 300K range---
in the dallas area 3g speeds suck all around ... limited to 300 500kbps
4g is awesome u get 2 3mbits easy
Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
Yeah I don't know what's happened to 3G here.
When I had the Evo 4G...Chicago had a big surge here...like AVERAGING 2500kbps on 3g.
Was poorer on the Evo 3D days but not too bad.
Now (with Epic) it averages 600 or so here.
All I can say is....if there is a surge of IPhone buyers coming in they are going to.be monumentally dissapointed in data speeds!
Whatya thinkin Sprint?
I remain on 4G here...(have a MiFi unit in my bag which helps!). Almost always run 4M average on either 4G or WiFi MiFi.
dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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Holy crap I wish I could just get 3000mbps on any ISP or phone. can you imagine No Lag, streaming instant.
Hell just going to click on anything on the website would seem to just pop up on screen as if the computer read my mind.
I used to be on att I had a Motorola atrix and ranged 3.5 to 6mb download.
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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I think I literally have a tower in my back yard.
Edit: when my Comcast goes out, I use the phone for tether on xbox and it streams in 720p lol!
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Ok Einstein....never said it reflected GLOBALLY. Why so irritated?!
It WAS a data transfer test of Wimax vs TMobile HSDP++ of 10 sites I use for 'testing'. Connected to respected networks...not Wifi. (WiFi isn't a network test).
Both had superb signal strength. Both with identical browser conditions.
I suspect if I took both deep inside a building Wimax would not fair as well.
U OK now?
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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what speeds are you getting? I'm on T-mobile sgs2 n get constant 10mbps n peak at 18 at sacramento CA area
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That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dont like your approach, but totally agree with the message. There are places where tmobile is faster on 3g/4g and vice versa. Not a fair comparison.
Put them both on the same wifi hotspot and then run some tests
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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I'm pretty sure I seen 20Mbs a couple times on wifi
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My cuzing showed me 20mbps speed test on that dual core LG phone on T-Mobile. Seems like double our 4g...
I was in ATT today speedtesting my Galaxy Note 4G+ vs Skyrocket LTE.
Skyrocket avg'd 12M Note avged 7M.
Then Dually downloaded Gizmodo, and howardforums etc (bout 10 different sites).... and Note downloaded those sites slightly faster than Skyrocket. Also downloaded a 250+ file and same result.
The LTE speedtests are a crock vs real world performance. Who cares......less you just get off on speedtest app contests.
Edit... Both devices on ATT network. Wifi testing:Note was better by more.

[Q]HOW TO Connect To A 4G Band Galaxy SII?

A few weeks ago, I posted a thread asking why does my friend get 4G, but I don't. If you are like me in a situation like this, the process is simple. In my area, there are 4G and Edge bands that phones connect to. My phone persistently connected to the edge band while my friend connects to the 4G. So lets get to the point shall we.
If you are having problems like me try this:
Go to your settings, wireless and network, mobile networks, and then select network mode. (After doing some research about GSM and WCDMA, I found out that GSM (3G aka edge) was slower than WCDMA (the newer technology 3G).
Select WCDMA. (For me it took a while so don't worry. If it does take too much time then select WCDMA + GSM.) You are going to have to select it anyway when you are done if you don't automatically connect to 4G.
When you select the combination, your phone should reconnect to your carrier provider and you should get 4G like me.
Oh. F.Y.I. T-Mobile doesn't actually have 4G. It's just a fast 3G network called HSPA, but they still display the 4G symbol when you have it. Hope it helps somebody.
Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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mikeyinid said:
Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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not "technically" but id say hspa gets the job done... except wen u run out of ur 5gb of data... which i did... n now they slowed me down till the end of billing cycle... what sucks is... my hspa is faster than wifi connection wifi is slow as hellllllll....
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Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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No. It's not really 4G. Just a faster 3G Network. It is really fast though.
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not "technically" but id say hspa gets the job done... except wen u run out of ur 5gb of data... which i did... n now they slowed me down till the end of billing cycle... what sucks is... my hspa is faster than wifi connection wifi is slow as hellllllll....
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LOL! That is true.. I find my phone faster than WiFi.
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Oh. F.Y.I. T-Mobile doesn't actually have 4G. It's just a fast 3G network called HSPA, but they still display the 4G symbol when you have it. Hope it helps somebody.
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So who has 4G? T-Mobile is faster than the other 3, so no one has 4G?
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Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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Looks like 4g to me.
nysoprano said:
So who has 4G? T-Mobile is faster than the other 3, so no one has 4G?
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I don't know about the other providers though. I will do some more research when I get out for Christmas break.
billydroid said:
Looks like 4g to me.
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I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
No company has "4G", none of them meet the official requirements of 4G. Just because your phone says 4G doesn't mean it actually is. Just because David Copperfield made it LOOK like he made a Boeing-747 disappear doesn't mean he ACTUALLY did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Requirements
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I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
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My sticker has 4g qualcomm
From a glaxay better than yours.
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Looks like 4g to me.
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Doesn't look like it to me... that's half the speed
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tehseano said:
No company has "4G", none of them meet the official requirements of 4G. Just because your phone says 4G doesn't mean it actually is. Just because David Copperfield made it LOOK like he made a Boeing-747 disappear doesn't mean he ACTUALLY did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Requirements
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Well sort of. Wiki mentions it but glazes over it a bit. It's a reference anyone can change of course so take it with a grain of salt. ITU relaxed their position about this time last year to include "evolving technologies" of which WiMax, LTE and HSPDA are all included.
So the reality is, all the carriers can make the 4G claim and sleep comfortably and the extended reality is, the speeds are all showing that next evolutionary step in speed, even if the technology as it sits today is just that. Steps toward LTE Advanced and whatever WiMax is calling their next version. As a TMobile customer, and one that it seems will stay with the TMobile branding it's unfortunate they are using a technology that has it's limits. But I'm getting 10-15Mbps on occasion and solid 7 to 8 Mbps speeds generally speaking so I'm not complaining. Until the carriers clear more spectrum what "G" it is isn't relevant to me. With 2Gbps, or even 5Gb soft caps I don't need to get to my ceiling any faster than I am now.
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Doesn't look like it to me... that's half the speed
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Well technically it is a quarter of the speed. If you are going by 100mbs defintion.
By industry standards , marketing, its 4g. But the term is meaningless. It is way faster than previous generation of phones.
So whatever, I'm calling 4g.
Multi-channel HSPA is capable of ~40Mbps, which is damned fast.
Call it what you want; technically LTE ir WiMax is 4g, but if it runs as fast as the others, who cares what it's called?
You would think at those speeds you'll burn through your data cap in days. I don't get the requirement for faster data speeds let alone just for minor things.
Genesis3 said:
Multi-channel HSPA is capable of ~40Mbps, which is damned fast.
Call it what you want; technically LTE ir WiMax is 4g, but if it runs as fast as the others, who cares what it's called?
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SHUT UP
SIISuperUserIIS said:
I don't know about the other providers though. I will do some more research when I get out for Christmas break.
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Can we end this stupid 4g/3g debate? I'll end it for you right now.
Until a few months ago NONE of the technologies out were 4g, not LTE, not WiMax, not HSAP+ ...BUT the ITU (International Telecommunications Union), which are the people that say what's what in the wireless industry, folded under the marketing schemes of the big 4 here in the U.S. and said that TECHNICALLY NOW LTE, WiMax, and HSPA+ All count as 4g. So...yes they have 4g. A few months ago they didn't. Now they do.
So what was the trick again? lol
SIISuperUserIIS said:
I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
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Yeah... mine says 4G also.. odd your sticker is different... As for hitting your cap faster, that doesnt really make much sense since it is just loading faster not loading more..
I have no issues calling it 4G since I get about 19-25 in the late hours pf the night and no less than 13 during prime time hours.
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Well sort of. Wiki mentions it but glazes over it a bit. It's a reference anyone can change of course so take it with a grain of salt. ITU relaxed their position about this time last year to include "evolving technologies" of which WiMax, LTE and HSPDA are all included.
So the reality is, all the carriers can make the 4G claim and sleep comfortably and the extended reality is, the speeds are all showing that next evolutionary step in speed, even if the technology as it sits today is just that. Steps toward LTE Advanced and whatever WiMax is calling their next version. As a TMobile customer, and one that it seems will stay with the TMobile branding it's unfortunate they are using a technology that has it's limits. But I'm getting 10-15Mbps on occasion and solid 7 to 8 Mbps speeds generally speaking so I'm not complaining. Until the carriers clear more spectrum what "G" it is isn't relevant to me. With 2Gbps, or even 5Gb soft caps I don't need to get to my ceiling any faster than I am now.
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Wikipedia is an administrator-approved peer-editing system. For one, there are references to back up the claims made, two, you can't just click "edit" then put in whatever you want. A Wiki admin approves all edits made, so bogus stuff can't just be easily added. (Sorry, I'm just sick an tired of people claiming wiki is a poor source for valid information, when in reality it's one of the most largest and beneficial information sources on the internet. Again, sorry, didn't mean that as an attack on you lol)
Either way, yes, our "4G" is fast, but in reality it's not in comparison to what it should be. And for those of you with worries about your data caps, these will be removed in due time. It becomes easier and easier to reach those caps without any effort at all (Google Music being a perfect example), carriers won't have a choice but to remove data caps, especially with carriers like sprint still offering unlimited data (for now lol)

If you used WiMAX 4G non-LTE and do NOT have LTE available in your area...

I upgraded from the ET4G which has WiMax 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under Wimax.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g WiMAX, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to WiMAX 4g. I suppose WiMAX 4g will trashed once LTE rolls out and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have WiMAX speeds. The phone will NOT pick up WiMAX 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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I upgraded from the ET4G which has standard 4g. There is a 4g tower literally 1/4 mile down my street and i was getting an average of 8-10Mb/sec download speed under 4g.
I ASSUMED... (thats where i went wrong) I purchased the Note 2, and thought there was the 3g, 4g, and 4g LTE modes/antennas. Nope. So now that I have the Note 2 without LTE in my area, I'm stuck with HORRIBLE 3g (CDMA) speeds. No more HD Netflix or even a reliable connection to Pandora (high quality).
I live in South Bay Silicon valley area in California. Now I have to WAIT until LTE rolls out before I can use a data connection speed over 100k/sec. I cant believe they made this phone without the ability to connect to standard 4g. I supposed 4g will trashed once LTE rolls aout and that would be a waste of hardware in the phone but there was no warning in the tech specs or Sprint reps.
Just warning to all out there wanting to upgrade the the Galaxy Note 2 where LTE is not available but have standard 4g speeds. The phone will NOT pick up 4G. I would have waited to upgrade. =(
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You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
lynyrd65 said:
You could always switch back to the epic 4G Touch until LTE arrives and use the note 2 as a WiFi device.
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Very true, I was just hoping to sell it for $200 and make some money back off the the beastly Note 2 price (on contract when purchased). Its so sad, I'm so used to looking at the 720p screen, it makes the E4GT look so much like a girly phone. =) I read some articles on how fast the 4g LTE should be coming out with wider coverage, I guess LTE is supposed to cover just about everywhere that has 3G coverage. Just a matter of time.Since the Optimus G and the Note 2 are being released, they are pushing LTE as "quick as they can" supposedly.
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woah, seriously? I had no idea this was the case... major bummer. I wonder if custom ROMs have the option?
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
chunology said:
A simple, quick google search would have confirmed that this phone does not have a WiMAX antenna... Samsung tried the best they could to standardize the hardware - not only across carriers but globally as well.
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Thats why I used the words 'I ASSUMED' It makes sense to have WiMAX built in. A normal person would assume it would hence the posting. Just a warning thread.
You wouldn't think to check if, 4G would work on a 4G LTE phone.
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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randy2 said:
Not to piss on ur rant bit its been said a million times by sprint and everyone else no new wimax devices wayyy back before evo lte launched its kinda a no Brainer, that this device wouldn't have wimax jus sayin
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Obviously my fault with not keeping up with tech specs. I stayed on T-mobile after switching from Sprint just phone their line of phones and recently came back to Sprint. GSM is alot more simple.
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I checked as best I could. I went into the phones hidden menu using the MSL code and checked the settings. There is no mode for 4G and 4G LTE separately. Sprint tech support also confirmed this (which I don't believe the crap they say). I gave them a hard time because I had a very hard time believing that that phone would not pickup standard 4G.
The app called 'PHONE INFO' on the market show you all your options for radio settings also.
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Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
yankees177 said:
Even though I was basically without 4G since the inception, I am glad that they didnt include a WiMax radio on this phone. It is a battery leach (so it was always turned off) and I would not want to change the battery life of this phone ever. I am right now on 1 day 5 hours with about 15% left on this battery charge.
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Yes, WiMAX was a leach! At least the specs for battery life are close to 3g battery life. Something i can look forward to.
Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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Not claiming the validity of the thread but I only have one problem which is the OP calling WiMax a standard 4G. So far only LTE Advanced (not a regular LTE) is capable of such standard.
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I was thinking about correcting that but i figure people got the idea.... ill go ahead and change that...
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the sprint s3 the same way? Lte only, no wimax?
I'm sorry about this, but honestly this was a no Brainer. Once sprint signed on with lte, wimax was done. To expect them to put a battery draining radio they had no intention of continuing with (known for a very long time) would be unrealistic.
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I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
Jocelyn said:
I've been following the thread since the first page and have been waiting for someone to post exactly this. Complete no brainer IMO
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Ah, oh well. I should have kept up with the High speed specs of LTE and WiMAX. I just went out and bought the lastest and greatest. I'm your typical "USER". I did some searching. obviously AFTER the fact and it seems I'm not the only one which make me feel a bit better about getting flamed.
It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
Enjoy your new toy, I'm jealous but I'm holding off till development is further along.
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This is coming from a 4 year XDA vet? Really? Wow...
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jyveturkey said:
It's not a big deal, and in fact, I'm a bit surprised you didn't get hammered sooner and harder. I'm thinking these forums are not as active or less forgiving than say the development forums.
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Duh
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fatboypup said:
Duh
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Lol! Just gonna leave leave the thread open to how much my rectum can take...

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