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[Q] Should I buy a Defy?

I bought my first Defy just before Christmas.
Well I lost my Defy in the Indian Ocean on holiday a couple of weeks ago..... waterproof video
Problem is I really liked the Defy but is it really worth paying for twice £260 x2 ?
What is it like with 2.2 and will it ever get an open bootloader?
Convince me to get another one, because I can't decide.
BTW I'm now using a Nokia 5800, so it may not take too long before I get the urge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940683 ...... nice.

Hi!
pdjm43 said:
I bought my first Defy just before Christmas.
Well I lost my Defy in the Indian Ocean on holiday a couple of weeks ago..... waterproof video
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My condolences .
Problem is I really liked the Defy but is it really worth paying for twice £260 x2 ?
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Question is: What are alternatives and what features do you need? If you need waterproof video, the selection is probably limited . 260 Pounds sounds a bit expensive IMHO.
What is it like with 2.2 and will it ever get an open bootloader?
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1.Don't know yet, 2. probably not.
I personally think the phone is worth it's money and it is a solid and reliable device, but because of the locked bootloader I will not buy a Motorola phone again and hence will not convinve you in buying one.

By elementary economics/accountings, your bricked phone is historical and shouldn't be factor in your decision

pdjm43 said:
Problem is I really liked the Defy but is it really worth paying for twice £260 x2 ?
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Why pay so much? On ebay you can find new for 200-220 euros. i found mine for 190

problem resolved
checked on Ebay and put in a bid for £215 on a new sim free Defy and won. Was checking out Samsung Galaxy S as well, they look nice. FTR Nokia 5800 is fairly rubbish, but worth £70.... hello Ebay
The moral here was that we shouldn't be too tight with our money. Or tie string on your phone when in the sea, you choose.
out.

[update 12/11/11] atrix 4g motorola laptopdock $50 (might be sold out)

Well from the sound of things the cheap $50 dock might be sold out. Folks are having trouble with their order who posted later in the thread... Good luck to anyone still trying to get one. Original Post Below:
AT&T Wireless has LAPTOPDOCKS for Atrix 4G on the cheap.
$99 for a new one
$75 for a refurb
Just wanted to share the love!
-Kenny
UPDATE: CHECKED THE WEBSITE THIS MORNING AN THE PRICE FOR A NEW LAPTOPDOCK IS $50!!!
TO FIND IT ON THE WEBSITE GO THE ATRIX 4G PAGE AND SCROLL TO COMPATIBLE ACCESSORIES AND FIND THE LAPTOP DOCK

Damn! Just after I thought my $89 refurb was the best deal around and pulled the trigger.
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matt314159 said:
Damn! Just after I thought my $89 refurb was the best deal around and pulled the trigger.
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Was a huge (and welcome) surprise to see the price drop on the website. Wonder if the price drop will cause a big influx of webtop/laptopdock questions in a week or so when everyone gets their new toy.

I bet there will be a metric crap-ton of posts like "Why doesn't CM7 have WebTop?"
In all seriousness, this is a killer deal. ATT is probably clearing out their stock so if you want one you'd better get it now or never.

if you buy it from AT&T, will they make you get a tethering plan?

motoatrix said:
if you buy it from AT&T, will they make you get a tethering plan?
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Buying the dock from AT&T (in this case) is the same as buying it from any other store. So no, the act of buying the LAPTOPDOCK from them will not add a tethering plan to your bill.

Thank you OP for posting this. I've been contemplating about the webtop and for this price its too good of a deal to pass up so I finally pulled the trigger, I'll have to give up CM7 but thats okay i'm sure someone can make it work with CM7 later. Thanks OP for finding this.

kennydjr83 said:
Buying the dock from AT&T (in this case) is the same as buying it from any other store. So no, the act of buying the LAPTOPDOCK from them will not add a tethering plan to your bill.
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I can confirm this, at least it was true in July when I got mine.
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motoatrix said:
Thank you OP for posting this. I've been contemplating about the webtop and for this price its too good of a deal to pass up so I finally pulled the trigger, I'll have to give up CM7 but thats okay i'm sure someone can make it work with CM7 later. Thanks OP for finding this.
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CM9 might make the webtop a whole new ballgame, too. That's what I'm waiting for.
Let me clarify- HDMI mirroring at native (not upscaled) resolution? Or dynamically switching displays so as to resize everything? Count me in.

motoatrix said:
Thank you OP for posting this. I've been contemplating about the webtop and for this price its too good of a deal to pass up so I finally pulled the trigger, I'll have to give up CM7 but thats okay i'm sure someone can make it work with CM7 later. Thanks OP for finding this.
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Don't hold your breath. From what the CM developers have said, actually implementing the Motorola webtop would be VERY difficult. I believe it's very tied in to Motoblur. A better chance of seeing plain Ubuntu...

Hello to all here on the lapdock thread. Just received mine today, one of the $99 new ones from Motorola. Pretty amazing the functionality added to the phone for such a low price. I wasnt sure what to expect.
Over the last few days I ve been doing a little research on the various CM7 threads --mainly the nightly for the Atrix 4G and I think someone has ported a version of Debian that will run on the CM7 ROM for Webtop and Lapdock. I flashed an earlier version of CM7 but ended up back on 4.5.91 after problems with CM7. Would be nice to have something a little different than the current desktop on the laptop but to me its pretty amazing as it is. Thid is my first thread post here from my Atrix using the lapdock. Nice accessory for a low price.
Thanks to everyone on XDA Atrix4G. I ve learned a lot !
Expat42451

motoatrix said:
Thank you OP for posting this. I've been contemplating about the webtop and for this price its too good of a deal to pass up so I finally pulled the trigger, I'll have to give up CM7 but thats okay i'm sure someone can make it work with CM7 later. Thanks OP for finding this.
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Sure! I wanted to make sure folks participating in the XDA forum knew about the deal... because I selfishly wanted more discussion about it now that I am getting one . My evil plan is already working!
As far as CM7, I hope there is some sort of port. But for now I'm happy.

I'm using the home base rom and the webtop is neat but not overwhelmingly so. for the price I'm going to hang onto it, but I'm honestly not sure if I'm going to use it now or switch to CM7 and just sit on the dock for awhile until I see something that piques my interest.

can this be bought in store or ordered from someone that is not an ATT customer? im visiting some friends in the states next month and was wondering if i can either get one at a local store or order it to my friend's place(hes not an att customer)?
can someone post the link? i cant find it on att website

Hi, how good are the refurbished ones? Or its better to go for new one?

I just got my refurb in 2 hours ago, and it looks brand new!
Thanks OP!!

neotekz said:
can this be bought in store or ordered from someone that is not an ATT customer? im visiting some friends in the states next month and was wondering if i can either get one at a local store or order it to my friend's place(hes not an att customer)?
can someone post the link? i cant find it on att website
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You do not have to be an AT&T customer to purchase one of these. I am not an AT&T customer.
To find the dock just go to where you would buy the atrix 4g http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...OROLA+ATRIX+(TM)+4G*+-+Black&q_sku=sku5100311
then go to compatible accessories and find the laptopdock
dont think you can pick it up in the store, ship it to your friends house

damn, I ordered the 75.00 2 days ago. I'll RMA this one and get me the $50.00 one.

I agree on both counts. I kinda feel bad for the guys in the development forum. Maybe someone should warn them!

Exactly what comes in the box. Does it include a charger and battery?

kennydjr83 said:
You do not have to be an AT&T customer to purchase one of these. I am not an AT&T customer.
To find the dock just go to where you would buy the atrix 4g http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...OROLA+ATRIX+(TM)+4G*+-+Black&q_sku=sku5100311
then go to compatible accessories and find the laptopdock
dont think you can pick it up in the store, ship it to your friends house
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thanks i see it now, any of you guys know if i can order an extra battery from the website too? its not in compatible accessories.

Moto Defy+ for £69.99 + £10 top up {Three UK)

Need a new brand new Moto Defy+ ?
Folks in the UK can get one from Three network (Edit: NOT locked to that network) for £69.99 plus £10 PAYG top up.
Top Cash back site gives £13 cashback too
http://store.three.co.uk/view/produ...C68E1D2891602D6320F36A761F02DB?priceplan=PAYG
Found this over at HotUKdeals website. HURRY!!!
Screenshot for the doubters out there

Super deal ...
spannerz said:
Need a new brand new Moto Defy+ ?
Folks in the UK can get one from Three network (locked to that network) for £69.99 plus £10 PAYG top up.
Top Cash back site gives £13 cashback too
http://store.three.co.uk/view/produ...C68E1D2891602D6320F36A761F02DB?priceplan=PAYG
Found this over at HotUKdeals website. HURRY!!!
Screenshot for the doubters out there
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Thats very nice of you to tell us .... I actually bought my DEFY not (Defy+) from oarageUk 2 yrs ago for £100 ...
But this one is the best ... Defy+ for less than £100 and Brand New ... Thanks a lot well get mine now ...

ibtihaaz said:
Thats very nice of you to tell us .... I actually bought my DEFY not (Defy+) from oarageUk 2 yrs ago for £100 ...
But this one is the best ... Defy+ for less than £100 and Brand New ... Thanks a lot well get mine now ...
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No problem! I just ordered mine via TopCashBack and it shows £13.71 cashback should be received after a few weeks (not always guaranteed though) so although I had to get a £10 top up plus the phone, it should cost about £67 with cashback recieved etc so I think that's not bad for a brand new Defy+, albeit locked to the Three network.

Well it arrived, totally unbranded and unlocked to any network. It's identical in every respect to the retail unlocked Defy+ that I bought from Amazon last year.
So, no sign of any network branding or locks whatsoever. A great deal I think.

I have ordered one too.
Hope it comes unlocked the same. Ordered mine from 3 online, where did you order yours from?
Chill.......
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chill today said:
I have ordered one too.
Hope it comes unlocked the same. Ordered mine from 3 online, where did you order yours from?
Chill.......
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Yeah I got mine from Three as well as per the link in my first post.... I'm very pleased with it.... I guess they're just shifting old stock, the battery manufactured date was July 2012.

Just bought one form a three shop, as my old defy is battered - scrathed screen, broken battery cover, dust under the screen missing usb port cover adn so on.
As i am already on three, i didnt have to pay for a £10 top up, and it only cost £69.99, the phone is completly unlocked and will work with any sim card.
here are a few stats from the about screen
system version 45.0.2310.MB526.Retail.en.GB
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband version EPU93_U_00.60.03
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-ge281b6e [email protected]#1
Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231

2Pints said:
Just bought one form a three shop, as my old defy is battered - scrathed screen, broken battery cover, dust under the screen missing usb port cover adn so on.
As i am already on three, i didnt have to pay for a £10 top up, and it only cost £69.99, the phone is completly unlocked and will work with any sim card.
here are a few stats from the about screen
system version 45.0.2310.MB526.Retail.en.GB
Android Version 2.3.6
Baseband version EPU93_U_00.60.03
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-ge281b6e [email protected]#1
Build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231
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Yep, exactly the same as what I got..... when you went into the 3 store what proof do they need that you're an existing customer? I'm just wondering if I can go in with my new 3 PAYG sim that I got with my new Defy+ and buy another one without buying a topup?

All they asked for was my phone number and my name that was it.
at the moent im now trying to root the thing, BL7s a different beast.
As for the rest of it, the differnce in feel between a well used Defy thats had more than its fair share of knocks and one fresh out of the box is substantial

2Pints said:
All they asked for was my phone number and my name that was it.
at the moent im now trying to root hte thing, BL7s a different beast
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I recently rooted my other BL7 Defy+ using a guide from here, it wasn't hard and I'll try to find the info. I just used RSDLite, the two files and bingo.
Well, actually I loaded the second file first and got the phone stuck, rebooted and tried again and bingo!
Here's the link that worked for me, choose the two files for EU and don't use one CN and one EU file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820282

Ive found the guide, just waiting for the files to download - 4 minutes to go ( alegedly)
went to CEX just out of interest to see if my old defy was worth anything - and the answer was no.
The only reason why im still using an old 'outdated' phone is that there is nothing on the market that has the following
Rugged ( water resitant)
SD card
removable battery
Doesnt look pig ugly
As for stock in the three shops, out of Three stores available, only one had stock - as they had been selling like 'hot cakes' to quote one store sales bod.
currently using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956

Having never had a Motorola android before, what is the best info regarding root and ROM installing.
Have done it to death on HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S.
Going to read through the link from your post spannerz, and maybe see from there.
I usually like to watch a YouTube video for first timer like me.
Chill........

Now rooted, what ROMs can I installed now?
All seems a bit confusing really. Would like to install CM7 or CM10, but all this Defy+ and BL7 etc has got me stumped.
I have been reading page after page, but not tryed yet.
Any advice?
Chill.........
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Where to Buy HTC One M7 Red/black Stock Earphones?

Where's the best place to buy the stock earbuds that came with the HTC One M7? I lost mine and I absolutely have to get my hands on another pair, I loved them. I've seen some on amazon and eBay but I've read that they are fake and not nearly as good as the stock ones.
Help would be appreciated!

I wish I knew too :/

I got the Ebay ones they sound fine to me. But do yourself a favor and get the Xiaomi Piston 2s off Amazon for 25 they rock. Look up their review on Headfi if you doubt.

They're on Amazon, I've bought them twice already. Love those earphones. Got them for like $8 or less too.

dfhimz said:
Where's the best place to buy the stock earbuds that came with the HTC One M7? I lost mine and I absolutely have to get my hands on another pair, I loved them. I've seen some on amazon and eBay but I've read that they are fake and not nearly as good as the stock ones.
Help would be appreciated!
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i still have mine because i don't use them!

dfhimz said:
Where's the best place to buy the stock earbuds that came with the HTC One M7? I lost mine and I absolutely have to get my hands on another pair, I loved them. I've seen some on amazon and eBay but I've read that they are fake and not nearly as good as the stock ones.
Help would be appreciated!
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I have ordered them 3 times here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GBBOXCI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Choose Sold by: A To Z Mobile and their the real deal
not sure about the other sellers

clsA said:
I have ordered them 3 times here
Choose Sold by: A To Z Mobile and their the real deal
not sure about the other sellers
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Are they as good as the stock ones that came with the phone?

dfhimz said:
Are they as good as the stock ones that came with the phone?
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Yes they are the same

I still have mine completely unused and still in original packaging (if there was packaging). I literally have not ever touched or taken them out of the phone box. Interested in buying?

I just bought the ones at that link, otherwise I'd buy yours. If I need more I'll buy yours? Haha

Are these just as good as stock earphones?
http://www.amazon.ca/HTC-Original-H..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1411678270&sr=1-9

Kiuren said:
Are these just as good as stock earphones?
http://www.amazon.ca/HTC-Original-H..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1411678270&sr=1-9
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Reviews say so... I don't like the white, but love the fact it has HTC branding compared to ours that didn't.
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clsA said:
I have ordered them 3 times here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GBBOXCI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Choose Sold by: A To Z Mobile and their the real deal
not sure about the other sellers
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Are they even good? I've bought one's from eBay and they are fake cos they don't sound like the one came in the box. They didn't have bass in them?

Problem solved
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201388368823&alt=web

I used to buy HTC One headphones of eBay (okay, I think they were counterfeit, but I can't prove it).
Now I'm much happier with cordless Bluetooth earbuds. They last about 6 hours on a charge.

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I used to buy HTC One headphones of eBay (okay, I think they were counterfeit, but I can't prove it).
Now I'm much happier with cordless Bluetooth earbuds. They last about 6 hours on a charge.
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If they have those plastic circles that you can take out with your finger then it's fake and also the sound quality is bad.

lol i still have mine somewhere unused =)

thansk
good

Back in Stock

The 256gb models are currently in stock on the US website. Just bought a blue one with the charging stand for my wife.

Why do we need a topic for this announcement ?

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Why do we need a topic for this announcement ?
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Um, because they haven't been in stock for the last couple months and I thought people might like to know before they're gone again.

spotmark said:
The 256gb models are currently in stock on the US website. Just bought a blue one with the charging stand for my wife.
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Its been back in stock via Amazon for a week now, I definitely would have recommended buying via Amazon instead of OnePlus directly, the warranty through them is better.