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[Q]How is this phone?

So I'm getting a new phone. Right now I have a Cliq 2, but I'm getting a new one in the next week.
Right now I'm trying to decide between this, the G2x, or the MT4GS.
I'm not trying to get you guys to tell me why I should get this phone over the others, I'd just like to know what this phone is like. What are the ups? The downs? How's the phones radio? Custom ROMs? Battery life? And anything else you feel might be good to know before I make a decision.
Thanks!
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I like the screen size, battery is good for me, gets me through my 14hr day on one charge with the screen use between 3:30-4 hrs. The radio is great, i get good speeds and great audio quality on the phone. The ROM choices aren't great YET, but Juggernaut is perfect for me and as stable as can be with many features and tweaks.
some phones have the screen flaws, but its hardly noticeable unless you look for it. I would definitely recommend over the G2X, my previous phone, which I did not like. The MT4G slide my lady has and its a nice QWERTY phone, but the screen is too small for my liking. Also I find the battery better on this than my G2X fyi. You won't be upset with this phone, of that I am sure.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

Just came from g2 with desire z hboot and rcmix3d 4.0...
Love the phone. Development is slow for phone. But phone is decent. Screen has bugs but overall nice phone great preformance with beastmod 2 4.0_

Large Screen, Fast, Great Battery

best phone i have ever owned!!! hands down, buy it now

Yea i had the g2x good phone but the gs2 blows it out of the water with everything.....mt4gs isnt in this category really as it is just a laggy beast (my 8yr old had one) anyways the screen is beautiful, call quality is awesome, rom development is getting there hopefully miui soon and we have cm. Audio quality=loudest phone i ever owned

this phone is exceptional in every way except development. our development page is death

Just buy it.

Alright cool. The only thing that's holding me back is the price tag now.
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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theholyfork said:
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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There is already an alpha build of CM7 available and CM9 is rumored to be in development. Once there is a stable CM7 build MIUI and other ROMs using a CM base should follow.
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Definitely take out the MT4GS. G2x is a beasty phone...but the SGS2 is just something else. Awesome performance with awesome battery life.

babymatteo said:
Definitely take out the MT4GS. G2x is a beasty phone...but the SGS2 is just something else. Awesome performance with awesome battery life.
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Yeah, I haven't heard much about the MT4GS. The only thing that has it still in my mind is the keyboard. I love having the keyboard on my Cliq2, but I'm willing to sacrifice it if I can get a great phone.
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theholyfork said:
Alright cool. The only thing that's holding me back is the price tag now.
Also, how do you guys know you'll be getting more ROMs?
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Go to Target. $129 with no rebates.
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Some of you are saying the dev here are slow which I agree to. But have you guys gone over to some of the other phones' dev threads? Look at the Amaze...LOL

I'm just curious do you people know how long it takes to compile and check roms for bugs? I don' think so. Making sure the code is correct if you changed anything.If their is one wrong line of code it code affect all the performance in a rom or kernel which could take minutes to hours to fix.. There will be no aosp roms until the cm team does it unless someone wants to do all the work themselves. Which by the way we have official support from the cm team. There are tons of developers outside which probably have tons of roms and kernels which are never released to the public because they don't want their work to be stolen or they simply don't want to share their work.
Doing things from scratch is a lot harder than porting. All the other galaxy s2 devices have mainly ports since they are nearly identical. The ports came from the official galaxy s2 which those people had to do things from scratch. Making roms is extremely time consuming these developers have other devices they work on, jobs , and family. They are not getting paid for their services to deliver roms. Just for you to flash and then complain about bad battery life. Which is most of the time the users fault. I think we should be more Appreciative that we actually have developers willing to share their work with us.

I like this phone. It makes phone calls and allows me to send texts.
I bet you'll enjoy it as well.

sn0warmy said:
I like this phone. It makes phone calls and allows me to send texts.
I bet you'll enjoy it as well.
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This answer made me smile. Thanks .... If you have some cash and you want to get something good get Galaxy Nexus. If you want to upgrade just go for SGSII it's nice I like it.

MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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GBGamer said:
MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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G2x isn't stock, it's still LG's overlay, just themed to look like stock.
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GBGamer said:
MT4GS: just no. The advantage of the g2x is OOB stock, and full cm support, plus wifi calling. It's a really awesome phone, and I would recommend it. GS2 is a really awesome phone but doesn't have full cm support yet.
TL;DR
MT4GS do not buy
G2X buy on a budget, or with no plans of rooting/romming
GS2 buy for the f***ing big screen, or the processor.
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Alright. Why do you say not to buy the g2x though if I have no plans of rooting or romming? From what I've seen on its forums, it has tons of rom's and a few kernals.
And from what everyone has said this phone will soon have tons of rom's, though nobody knows for real if that's true or not
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[Q] Sorry that I gotta ask but...

... which is the most stable ROM out there for this phone. This is my first time on the SGSII forum. My wife and I own Vibrants at the moment fully rooted running 2.2 Bionix 1.3.1 with the Bali 1.8.8 kernel (for those who might know that setup) and yes it is a old ROM but its straight from the source so it is 99% percent stable (Battery & GPS). We are going to upgrade to SGSIIs very soon and I don't want stock on either phone. YES I apologize for not taking my time to do my homework but I would like to install a KNOWN stable ROM right off the bat on my wife's phone cuz I don't want to hear her complaining that this **** don't work or this other **** is buggy...you guys get my point? I'm gonna experiment with mine but hers I just wanna flash one ROM that is gonna be good from the get-go so she could start using it right away.
...again I'm sorry for the "best ROM out there" question (which I myself hate) and THX ahead.

Never had any issues with juggernaut, no fcs or anything. Lots of nice themes for it too. As for kernels, the new darkside has been the best for me.
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BeastMod. I get amazing battery life and never had any lag.

I love dewizzed, just an amazing ROM. It also includes customizable boot animation.
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A similar thread is also going on which ROM, but you qualified it by mentioning your Vibrant setup. My wife also upgraded from a Vibrant running the same Bionix/Bali combo so I know what you mean by stability as well as performance. Luckily you have several choices as noted above but I've settled on Dewizzed as my main choice: based on stock, extremely stable, very fast data speeds, GPS locks in an amazingly short time, great battery life... I also know that the team are working on some exciting things for the next version and am looking forward to seeing what is offered up.

Beastmod 4.2 or Monhk's new rom
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You should use Juggernaut, it's a really nice rom- fast and stable.

I think juggs is a good choice as well. Needs tweaking though
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Thx everyone. As always everyone got their favorite that runs great on their phone. Based on these choices Ima read a little further on these ROMs.
... btw guess we upgrading even sooner cuz they stole my 13 y.o. son's phone today and I guess he's gonna get one of these Vibrants.

Getting my phone tomorrow.. What tips or tricks do you all recommend..??

Finally get off Sprints lies of 4G.. I was there from the beginning when they promised me Wimax would be everywhere..
Realizing the HSPA with T-mobile is definitely different then at&t's HSPA.. Its very fast in my area..
So I'm doing it!!!
I plan to root it first thing.. Then put on the newest Juggernaut Rom..
It seems very stable from what many are saying..
I assume there are themes and such for this Rom as well?
Any other tips or tricks you guys can recommend that would be great..

Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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iloveandroid16 said:
Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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Powered by the SGSII....

Ive been using touchless and its been quite good with the darkside kernel...

Congrats on the phone. I'm still running juggernaut 3.7. I haven't really felt the need to try another Rom. I have looked at the macnut. It seems like it's still jugs with little changes.

Same here man, I left Sprint after being a customer since 2006...
I was pleasantly shocked at my coverage with T-Mobile and the HSPA+ speeds here, everything is so much better than Sprint. Congrats on the move, I got out because of a material change in the contract.
I recommend reading up on the rooting guides as well as watching this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfA1KKzXkFU. This video is pretty much is fool-proof and if you're a veteran to rooting, then this phone is EZ PZ.

Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?

First of all..
First of all, you must root and install a custom ROM if possible. Definitely makes the experience more enjoyable

fastfed said:
Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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jordanishere said:
The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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heheh.. ok... Touchwiz it is..
I'm gonna put Macnut as it seems the most popular..
Anything else?
Whats some other goodies I should know about?
Camera tricks?
themes I assume are all included in the rom topic post ?

if you want something that will have everything working, even have apps work that sometimes somehow it doesnt in other roms. Just root and stock and if you want something that doesnt update a lot, root and stock.

Yeah I was reading that some custom roms use up a lot of battery when using Bluetooth. So I have been reading a great deal before I actually do anything. I can deal with the bloatware for now till I get a good grasp of everything.
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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...

Wife got her SGS2 yesterday and I rooted it with Juggernaut. As a rom, it was fairly disappointing at first as it looked nearly exactly stock, but it did have some good UI tweaks built in as well as an app to toggle bloat on and off. Using titanium to get rid of some of the extra bloat, and launcher pro to ditch TouchWiz UI it's running pretty smooth.
Today is the first day of real use and I have high hopes for it.
Try a few roms, You'll spend more time waiting for them to download than to install and configure with all the upload sites now, but at least you can get a feel for what's out there.
Then just bookmark and stalk the forums for a AOSP ICS build.

noodles2224 said:
stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...
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The modded versions of 2.3.6 are much better than stock. try macnut or darkside warfare. those are currently the most up to date roms available for our phone.
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .

zander21510 said:
I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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Who said CM9 is coming to this phone?
I got the phone today.. And all I can say is WOW!!
It's unreal!!
Whats touchwiz exactly ??
I rooted the phone first thing, but as of now, I'm not putting a rom into it.. I will just play with it as it is now..
I hate the fact though I cannot change the drawer task bar... The bottom buttons...
I don't use the stock messaging program (I use handcet) and I cannot remove it..
Sucks..
as for the speed..
Holy ****!!!
I cannot believe this glorified 3g system is this fast.. I guess it doesn't matter LTE, Wimax or what.. I'm getting download speeds of 20 down and 3-4 up..
Average.. lowest I've seen 5 down so far.
This thing is awesome!!

Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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zander21510 said:
I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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You know you can just add the flag -notw to the Darkside file name and that will get rid of TouchWiz and most of the T-mobile/Samsung apps right? I'm guessing you didn't read the "flags" area in the first post of the DARKSIDE DIGITAL WARFARE thread.

SpydaPig said:
Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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Went with my dad to get these phones today..
I went through about 3 of them, before I found two that had ZERO lines or issues..
I checked the best I could.. Went into the back room, which was dark and opened a bunch of dark pictures from the web..
I saw some lines on 3 of them.. before I found the next two that didn't look like they had them..
so if it does have them, its so minor, you will never be able to tell..
At least not enough that I have to TRY and see them..

[Q] Why CM9?

CM9 seems to be making good progress and seems to be generating lots of excitement.
I'm trying to decide if this is for me. I've been reading some of the threads, but can't seem to find clear answer to some basic questions:
What are the advantage of CM9 and ICS?
Is about new "killer" features which are only available on ICS? If yes, what are they?
Or is it simply about having the latest/newest thing? (A sentiment I can identify with, but which I currently don't share)
Are there any advantages/disadvantages in terms of smoothness/speed, more/less memory, better/worse battery usage, stability/instability, or other general areas which aren't necessarily associated with any one feature?
(I realize CM9 is still in alpha mode; I've read the bug list and I think I can live with that for now if there are overall positive advantages).
I thank you in advance for responding (or for pointing me to another post/thread where these questions are clearly answered).

Its really about the newest GUI that makes it to die for. Its surprisingly smooth for an alpha does a little bit more battery consumption because it is a new OS version and all new OS are going to require more resources and RAM and other things in order run so the ovbious. Its really all up to your prefrence if you want the latest and greatest go for it. If you like your current setup and don't feel like the move is that important by all means stay. Its all opinion whether or not you make the "jump" is all up to you. I tried to unbiased as possible since I'm on it
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Chabsin said:
CM9 seems to be making good progress and seems to be generating lots of excitement.
I"m trying to decide if this is for me. I've been reading some of the threads, but can't seem to find clear answer to some basic questions:
What are the advantage of CM9 and ICS?
Is about new "killer" features which are only available on ICS? If yes, what are they?
Or is it simply about having the latest/newest thing? (A sentiment I can identify with, but which I currently don't share)
Are there any advantages/disadvantages in terms of smoothness/speed, more/less memory, better/worse battery usage, stability/instability, or other general areas which aren't necessarily associated with any one feature?
(I realize CM9 is still in alpha mod; I've read the bug list and I think I can live with that for now if there are overall positive advantages).
I thank you in advance for responding (or for pointing me to another post/thread where these questions are clearly answered).
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Here's the best anyone can tell you to sum it up.
Simply test Cm9 see if you like it check features do tests etc...
Try different kernels, cpu combos (schedulers, governors).
Yadada and so forth.
Hop you find whatcha ya looking for
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Nice well written question. Couple of quick observations on my part...battery is a little worse, stability is phenomenal, it uses a little more RAM, there are apps available exclusively for ICS and there will be more, it is very quick and snappy, and definitely for me about running the latest and also not available for the non-roots out there.
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I think the real question here is why not? What advantages do you have on stock that outweighs CM9? on a more serious note, I like to stick with the herd that unifies the updating experience into one rom instead of scattered roms. Hence, Cyanogenmod for me. Stock is still awesome, expecially toadlife and other stockish roms by others. Useful for dialer codes.
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I had the same question last Saturday, so I finally decided to made the jump and I'm liking it so far. It gives u a feeling of a new phone. I'm not regretting my decision but wish the battery was better. But I think u gonna like it
if I helped u in any way pls DONT hit the thanx button... I'm not a thanx-whore.

The only 2 reasons I know of to NOT jump to CM9 is the video tearing issue and the unavoidable fact that the battery lasts for less time.
If neither of these are a major concerns, CM9 should be your go to build.
Everything seems pretty much set to go, but CM9 is missing a few elements in respect to customization, that have yet to come upstream (hence the Alpha tag), themes is an example, but you can load them the old fashioned way if you want.

I would have to say don't worry about it using more RAM and battery. I ran the v6 supercharger and my RAM consumption is super low. Juice defender has also worked great for battery life. Waaay better than the phones stock capabilities.
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Its worked great for me. I like to jump around roms and try new stuff a lot and I've stuck with cm9 for a while. Like it a lot...no crashes...no problems....only drawback might be battery life BUT I'm always around a charger so I'm not too worried about that
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kennyglass123 said:
Nice well written question. Couple of quick observations on my part...battery is a little worse, stability is phenomenal, it uses a little more RAM, there are apps available exclusively for ICS and there will be more, it is very quick and snappy, and definitely for me about running the latest and also not available for the non-roots out there.
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Agreed, I'm looking forward to seeing what new apps will be available with ICS.

There really are no standouts as to why cm9 is better to me, until I actually use it. Everything works better to me. Copy paste, options such as chrome browser w the sweet quick zoom option. Better t9 dialer as stock el30 only searched first or last name and cm9 searches both. There are many more little things that make it much improved to me. Folders are simple and easily organized. Very smooth w the right tweaks and overall my experience is better. I have a plethora of batteries now but battery life appears to be the same as gbread for me. I heavily use this phone for many purposes and haven't used gbread since October (had an ns4g) but for maybe a day or two. It works better for me.

I personally like CM9 due to the latest and greatest, however my biggest feature for CM9 is the bridging the gab between my laptop PC and my mobile devices. with ICS, I can natively sync chrome for example, which is a HUGE benefit for me when I have tons of bookmarks. I LOVE the UI changes in Google Apps, like GMail and Maps.
All in all, I have no problems with the build and say anyone that needs to bridge the gap between their devices should switch.
My two cents
Happy flashing!

if you want more settings control for things like app permissions then cm9 is not "there" yet (upstream issue NOT our amazing devs). Otherwise as others have said, it seems faster/more responsive. I've been using it since the first release. minimal bugs and annoyances but workable (for me at least) as a daily driver. I use zeam as my launcher so the visual diff from cm7 to cm9 did not seem all that much. It is nice to be able to take advantage of newer apps like chrome etc. I do miss the extra options/config available in cm7..
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Has development of CM7 slowed at all because of CM9?

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Has development of CM7 slowed at all because of CM9?
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To a halt.
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Thanks to all who replied.
No one has yet enumerated clearly the "killer features". But I hear it's more responsive - though it uses more juice. I'm hearing that it's a new experience. I suppose I'll have to try it out myself and decide. So far I've already converted to mtd. Now I can try it without a large time investment.
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i think the major changes are internal at this point. by using cm9 you are extending the "life" of your phone another year or so.. and by 'life' i guess i mean ability to take advantage of the wide range of new ics things (apps/improvements etc) as they come out.. the good news is you can always wait and do it later when things mature..
E.
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Is ICS really that good?

I don't know :/ Initially everything I read about it suggested that it used some form of hardware acceleration to make phones run much smoother. However, after seeing many speed tests between the Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus (both using TI OMAP4 chips, razr has GB and GN uses ICS) the Razr smokes the Nexus in every aspect. And I understand there are many other factors involved that could play into that, but in general it seems people's experiences with ICS point to it being much more bogged down then GB ever was. I don't know, anyone else have thoughts on this :/

Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.

It probably just depends on optimization and other stuffs. Processor doesn't determine everything, although it does help. I personally like the TW ICS and it's pretty smooth to me.

Ics gapps like youtube is one of the big big reasons why I stay and its just something different from gingerbread.
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EpicFlair said:
Honestly I don't think it is that great. For me it is the eyecandy and a couple of cool new features that make ICS so interesting. But after running ICS for a while I went back to GB and was astonished by how good GB was. By no means is ICS bad, I just don't think that it is on GB level of performance.
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Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/

ICS on my phone is a minimum upgrade that works good for me but when my tab went from Honeycomb to ICS it made a much larger impact. I think ICS brings all the capable devices together and Jellybean will be the one that solidifies Android.
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We all love something new, and we all love eyecandy.
If GB is working fine for you right now, you won't gain much at all moving to ICS.

The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.

pbassjunk said:
The only thing I like about ICS is that elastic scrolling of a zoomed in page works.
Samsung GB is a mess. Doubletap on any content and scroll in 1 direction, it's all over the place with no elastic snap on either X or Y axis.
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So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?

batting1000 said:
So out of all the new features, elastic scrolling is most important to you?
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[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*

MultiLockOn said:
Pretty much my experience as well. It seems they tried to make ICS very perty. And it is, it's got lots of nice transitions and neat features and a nice UI, but after going back to GB I realized how slow ICS actually is.
Perhaps that's why Google has already started Jelly bean, because they realized ICS isn't that great? :/
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Google is on a yearly release schedule for major Android releases. Jelly Bean or whatever it'll be called was planned well before ICS was shown to the public.
And ICS on skinned devices isn't much of an upgrade, especially with the mess that is Touchwiz. This is due to the (correct) belief on Samsung's part that Android is more complicated and "ugly" than the average user wants/expects. Some of their feature enhancements are useful, but the visual is just awful. On its own, Touchwiz isn't worse than vanilla GB, but you can't use Touchwiz on its own. There are always elements of vanilla GB that show and that makes the entire thing an uncoordinated mess.
Android has reached a point where Google can work on refining the OS with small features. More importantly, ICS is the start of a unified and unique theme that can set Android visually apart from iOS and WP7 which look much better than any Android phone shipping with GB.
Of course, none of that matters since OEMs insist on skinning their phones. I had hoped Samsung would've followed HTC and toned down the skinning for the new version of Touchwiz, but that was a pipe dream considering the number of SGSII's they sold. My biggest problem with Touchwiz is that it doesn't mesh with the Holo theme at all which I hope app developers would use, allowing for a more unified Android look.
What I'm trying to say is: No, ICS is not that much of an upgrade from GB. But, ICS is that important to Android and its future.

pbassjunk said:
[fwiw, I really dig MIUI. It's my go-to.]
I haven't experienced much in ICS (leaks) that has really improved much over what we already had. Gallery is better, but Gallery ICS+ is in the market for 2.3.
*shrug*
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I actually love ICS especially the last few leaks. Everything seems so fast and efficient to me
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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JohnCorleone said:
Oh and my friend finally solved 4g on Miui so be on the lookout for that sometime in the near future
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now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.

kingdazy said:
now THATS interesting news!
the one thing that's really kept me from playing with miui.
and, in general, i could not disagree with many of the responses here more. (and agree with JC)
ics runs smooth, quick, and the gapps are a Major upgrade, worth it alone, imho.
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Yeah Miui with 4g will be huge! He solved it on NS4G and is building a ROM now. After that (or maybe already) other Miui.us guys like TCP should have access to his code or changes to the code
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I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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in its stock form hell yea

TrayLunch said:
I had some serious battery issues, but I didn't tweak much and didn't want to. I wanted to see the experience Android/Samsung intended us to have.
My favorite aspect of ICS: the ability to disable built in apps. I don't use media hub. I don't use social hub. I don't use Sprint bloatware. ETC. I love having the option of disabling crap I don't use but being able to restore it if it causes OS problems.
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How do you do that?
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Well, I had it switched from the touchwiz launcher to the stock launcher. I don't think that makes a difference though. Manage apps> all> select an app> if it's a stock app instead of the uninstall option, it'll have disable. Beats the greyed out block that's on GB.
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Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Majin101 said:
Yes ics is awesomee it's still being worked on and im surprised how nice it is. But like others say if u like GB then stay on it. if u want to try ics do it if u don't like it go back no big deall
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Totally agree with you, and I did the latter because of the battery life and I'm waiting for them to polish out the bugs I found. The title of the thread is asking for peoples opinions and evaluations of ICS. You have to understand that some people are not going to share your point of view.
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