I've had my new desire z about 2 weeks now, and am utterly dissapointed by a frankly dreadful battery life.
It's my second DZ, given the original was nicked, but (kicks self) wasn't insured, so was purchased from a supplier that shipped my phone from Hong Kong (I live in UK, and the new phone is an identical model, except for a slight difference in key layout - A2727 I think is model number)
The original phone would give me over two days life with very low use, which i considered to be fair for a decent smart phone.
The new phone barely gives me 10 hours with no use. I've done a couple of tests - unplugged it at 2am, but 8am it's at 30% or lower. This was done with all data connections turned off.
If i leave the new phone to go dead then that's it - it won't charge. The only way i've found to get juice back into the battery is to hold it in my old touch-pro 2 until it's charged enough to charge from the desire.
Last night was the clincher. I've gone out with some friends to the pub. I had a conversation over it, and checked my battery life - 42%. As a last dith effort i factory reset the phone at that point to rule out a mischevious app, and checked - 39%
Within 2 hours, and with no use at all that was down at 8%. In order to avoid the charge issue i cut my losses and turned it off at that point. Once home (oh, about 4 hours later maybe) I was unable to turn it back on. I then left it plugged in overnight, and was still unable to turn it on this morning until i'd done my cross-phone charging trick.
I'm now entirely convinced there's some form of hardware issue at fault here, so i'm wondering if anyone else has had the same problem with this phone before? I see lots of thread regarding poor battery life, but most seem to be solved by turning data off or some rouge app, neither of which are an issue in this case. Also, any hints for making my life easier when I phone HTC tomorrow? I've read elsewhere their support might not be all it should be.
Thanks in advance for any help! I've ready to pull my hair out as what is a fantastic phone otherwise has been completely ruined by this battery issue.
I think you should get a new battery to rule out that the battery itself isn't a problem. I had similar issues with my G1 a while back and it solved a lot of wierd, seemingly unrelated problems. Batteries are pretty cheap online, $15 or so and some are free shipping.
The way that I figured out my battery was toast was by comparing it to other batteries. it had a bulge in the center where it should have been flat. Fingers crossed it isn't hardware.
had already tried a diff battery (did you know you can chew a corner off a touch pro 2 battery and make it fit??) Which i know worked fine in the old nicked dz and imo as i was getting same issue ruled out battery problem.
anyway... phone has now been returned and i'm waiting 2-3 weeks to get it repaired under warranty (though am hoping for complete replacement obviously)
Chewing on batteries has got to get you extra xda brownie points. I'll remember that
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I'd like to think there was some techincal or engineering skill in there somewhere.
but it was mostly "Well, apart form this nugget of plastic they're the same shape..."
I'm having the exact same problem... When you take you shutdown to recharge a dead battery, does it sometimes try to turn back on? I left my apartment like 30m ago with 100% battery, and I'm at 84% and declining. There's nothing running. And I've replaced the battery, same issue.
I think I might just RMA this one.. seems like an engineering issues.
Edit: I'm the 40 seconds it took me to type this, battery dropped to 82%.
Wanted to bump this post. I've since wiped / reloaded and wiped battery stats. It's still jacked. I think it's an internal electrical thing. Reason is: I'll power down to take the battery out. When I put the other one in, it'll turn back on. Or if I power down to charge, it'll turn back on - plugged in or not. I don't want to deal with the RMA process again, but I think it's my only choice. I've taken two phone calls this AM @ 100%, and it's at 96% now. Drives me insane. Ugh... I'll call TMO. Anyone know if the replacements are still rootable?
So... I had my phone replaced, and it's still doing the horrid battery thing. Flashed CM 7.1 RC3 or w/e the latest is, cycled one battery - and it drops like a stone. I have two chargers (one at work, one at home) and they both charge the phone up to 100%. But it's still losing battery life quicker than I'd like. I used to be able to get a good 18 hours out of this phone. Even with a new battery and a new phone, it's acting up. I'll try to flash an older ROM and see if it's the same thing. I updated to #130 nightly from 7/10. We'll see how it lasts today. But I do remember I had horrible luck with CM's ROM's on my G1. Battery would just drain for no reason. The main process taking up the most battery life is "Cell standby" so I changed to the latest radio - and it still drops. OP - have you figured out your problem? I've removed a ton of apps, and it's still messing up. I listen to music for... 45m in the AM, and I get down to 54%. I've formatted my SD Card as well.. it's driving me insane.
I just flashed CM 7.1 a few days ago and while the ROM is great, it does seem to be a litter harder on my battery than 6.1 was. With light/moderate usage yesterday, I got about 16 hours and that was running the battery almost completely dead. With heavy usage, I get about 10 hours and need a bump charge in the afternoon.
You might want to look into getting a Mugen 1800mah battery. You can get them on Ebay from 35-40 dollars. The seller 'nakedcellphone' is based out of Southern California and another user has confirmed ordering from them and getting a legitimate battery (lots of fakes on Ebay). Either that, or carry a charger with you...
Have you tried using Watchdog to see if there are any 'rogue' apps that are causing the drain by running in the background? What about going to spare parts > battery history > Partial Wake usage? There it will show apps that are draining your battery when you're not 'actively' using your phone. For me, the Android System is the highest drain in that menu. Good luck! Hope some of this helps!
I just checked spare parts, and there's nothing too odd in there. Just my music app. And I've changed that too - thought Winamp was killing me. I'll check Watchdog. This is a brand new OEM battery along with an RMA'd G2. It has to be the OS / Radio or something. I've stripped like every non-essential app too.
Hello,
so I got the bloated battery issue myself, and had to order another battery. I have seen many threads pop up in the last month concerning this issue, on here, androidcentral, and even the sprint forums!
There doesn't seem to be a unified thread, so I would like to try to get one going. Sprint/Samsung probably doesn't know how widespread this issue is becoming. I think its a more serious problem than we think, and isn't relagated to a few random people. Myself and my friend, who both got our phones around the same time, who both run the same build of ICS started exhibiting the following issues:
1. Insane and unpredictable battery life drops. I'm talking 88% while browsing the web, and then instant reboot and phone is down to 10%.
2. Screen flickers as if auto brightness can't make up its mind, instant reboot.
3. LOS, then reboot.
4. Any intensive apps: camera, gps, sometimes even just streaming music, causes the phone to lock up, pressing home does nothing, may even require reboot.
5. Removing battery, and then letting phone sit for 1-2 minutes, then putting it back in an powering up brings battery level back up to stable temporarily.
6. Battery Bloat, and inevitable: permadeath. Can't hold a charge.
This seems to me to be a consistent occurence along with recent builds of ICS.
I would like to get to the bottom of this. I don't plan on keeping this phone much longer (I ordered a Nexus 4, still in order limbo tho), but it could be of help to the community if we know the how's and why's.
Questions:
- Are you experience these symptoms?
- If so, when did they start, give a specific build number?
- Have you experienced battery bloat? (battery seems to be slightly expanding outward, not completely flat)
- Do you keep your phone on the charger overnight? (This may or may not be related, but maybe a recent ICS change disables something that stops the battery from overcharging)
Interesting! My wife had this exact issue on her E4GT unrooted FI27. Eventually, the phone would no longer boot. She took it back to Sprint yesterday. The battery was bad, they tried another battery and the phone still wouldn't boot. She's receiving a new phone today.
She told me when she was at the Sprint store, there was a guy there with an Evo with exactly the same problem. I told her it was just an amazing coincidence and not an Android issue... obviously I was wrong!
I am on FI27 stock rooted with a newer battery than my wife's, the only thing I have noticed is that my charge sometimes drops CONSIDERABLY after I reboot the phone... now this has me worried! Her battery was bloated. We both charge overnight.
Obviously, this is an issue that you can't ignore, because it can fry your phone (as it did my wife's).
Yes!! The insane battery dropped started happening like a month ago. That's all that was happening though. Just random battery drops. I thought it was the ROM at the time. The phone would freeze up, reboot and the battery would be 30%+ lower.
About a week ago I started experiencing the craziness. Phone rebooting, flickering screen, pretty much everything you've stated. And yes I've been using the latest modems. My battery can also spin like a top. For a very long time I might add. Some other dude with a regular Qwerty phone has a battery that can spin, but it only spins for like 3 seconds. His phone is pretty old.
My phone is about a year old and the battery spins for ever. I guess this is a good test to see how bloated your battery is, since I can't really look at it and tell.
I do charge over night since my phone would die over night. I don't think my phone will fry right now since my phone is on the charger and the battery temperature is at 66 Fahrenheit (18 Celsius). Ordered a new battery hoping for the best. And I will be using ROMs that are based on the FF18 with the new battery.
first power button broke, now battery is taking a **** upon itself, exact same issues
Check this out... as I said, after my wife had been having this issue for a couple weeks on her stock E4GT, on Thursday her phone would never boot past the boot screen. She took it into Sprint on Friday and they determined the battery was bad. They tried a new battery, still wouldn't get past the boot screen. They ordered her a new phone 'overnight' which is supposed to arrive Monday. She is going into withdrawal, so for the hell of it I plugged her phone in, booted to stock recovery and did a factory reset... reboot and the phone (apart from the bad battery) works perfectly. My wife asks why they wouldn't have done that at the Sprint store? What a bunch of idiots!
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arionfrost said:
Hello,
so I got the bloated battery issue myself, and had to order another battery. I have seen many threads pop up in the last month concerning this issue, on here, androidcentral, and even the sprint forums!
There doesn't seem to be a unified thread, so I would like to try to get one going. Sprint/Samsung probably doesn't know how widespread this issue is becoming. I think its a more serious problem than we think, and isn't relagated to a few random people. Myself and my friend, who both got our phones around the same time, who both run the same build of ICS started exhibiting the following issues:
1. Insane and unpredictable battery life drops. I'm talking 88% while browsing the web, and then instant reboot and phone is down to 10%.
2. Screen flickers as if auto brightness can't make up its mind, instant reboot.
3. LOS, then reboot.
4. Any intensive apps: camera, gps, sometimes even just streaming music, causes the phone to lock up, pressing home does nothing, may even require reboot.
5. Removing battery, and then letting phone sit for 1-2 minutes, then putting it back in an powering up brings battery level back up to stable temporarily.
6. Battery Bloat, and inevitable: permadeath. Can't hold a charge.
This seems to me to be a consistent occurence along with recent builds of ICS.
I would like to get to the bottom of this. I don't plan on keeping this phone much longer (I ordered a Nexus 4, still in order limbo tho), but it could be of help to the community if we know the how's and why's.
Questions:
- Are you experience these symptoms?
- If so, when did they start, give a specific build number?
- Have you experienced battery bloat? (battery seems to be slightly expanding outward, not completely flat)
- Do you keep your phone on the charger overnight? (This may or may not be related, but maybe a recent ICS change disables something that stops the battery from overcharging)
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I have the above listed problems with my SOny Xperia Arc S after I updated it to ICS.. It is kinda frustrating..coz it turns on and off by itself, or sometimes it just froze that will makes me manually take out the battery..But when I haven't updated it to ICS there are no problems like this...
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I have the above listed problems with my SOny Xperia Arc S after I updated it to ICS.. It is kinda frustrating..coz it turns on and off by itself, or sometimes it just froze that will makes me manually take out the battery..But when I haven't updated it to ICS there are no problems like this...
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Do look in what forum you are replying to before replying. This is the E4GT forum. NOT Sony!
This is a specific problem related to E4GT. I think its the characteristics of this problem that make it unique, the instantly dead battery, the battery bloating, and something to do with recent ICS updates. I am hypothesizing that it has to do with battery overcharging that somehow got introduced to recent builds of ICS that is causing this.
I just got my new battery in yesterday, and sure enough, it fixed all of these problems. It's an Anker battery, and, although I am no expert on batteries, its a really nice third party battery, and feels weightier than the stock Samsung battery. Now I'm worried that ICS will destroy this battery as well, so I am being very conservative when it comes to charging.
I was having the same issue with my last E4GT running FI27 STOCK ROOTED.
1) LOS to reboot then low battery from full
2) using apps like spotify, maps and voice search on 3g would also cause it to reboot to low battery
3) screen flickers (like cm10 flicker) and then reboots
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I don't think the issue is related to ics but rather the age of the phone, but i could be wrong.
Has anyone had their battery die after upgrading to ICS when their phone was less than 8 months old?
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Beremat said:
I don't think the issue is related to ics but rather the age of the phone, but i could be wrong.
Has anyone had their battery die after upgrading to ICS when their phone was less than 8 months old?
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Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
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Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
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I dunno man. I have had an Epic 4G, an HTC Evo, and evne HTC Hero that I kept for quite a while and their batteries never bloated and exhibited these kind of software based issues. Sure batteries degrade over time, but it's almost like the software was glitching out when it was killing my battery and causing strange reboots and lock ups, not to mention instant drain.
new battery bloating within 2 weeks
rsngfrce said:
Pesonally, I agree... my belief is that this is a battery age issue. Now, I won't say that the battery should age so quickly or that it should start bloating, but no one has had this issue with a newish battery have they (say, newer than 6 months)?
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Hi there, first post here, I was just browsing the web for help with this issue and found this thread. My galaxy s2 eg4 also had the bloated battery after ics update, it was shutting off randomly, flickering, etc. I replaced the battery first part of december 2012, and within 2 weeks it had started doing the same thing again, but not as often. Sure enough, brand new, previously flat battery was slightly bloated. It has gradually gotten worse, so I just purchased 2 new anker batteries to see if they fare better. When I changed the battery and took out my one month old battery, it was quite bloated and spun for quite a while.
Hoping it does better with the anker batteries, but only time will tell.
Batteries bloating has nothing to do with ICS or the software. Its a heat issue and weak cell walls inside the OEM batteries. The cell walls barely meet requirements to make the 1800mah cells fit in a 1500mah size housing and they don't hold up well to high temps. as the battery reaches 120°F+ the solid state chemicals used in the cells begin to expand, a normal battery's cell walls can withstand the slight increase in pressure but the thinner walls in these batteries begin to crack and/or separate from the housing and then the chemicals can mix. Once the chemicals begin to mix the reaction causes the air inside the battery to expand and swells the housing out as it has nowhere to escape.
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I have the same problem l. Even with a 3800mah battery. It will start.acting up and if it gets better it will all of sidden go up to 70% or more, and i know it takes a couple of hours to get it to 70% from being dead at 15% or less.
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Hi there, first post here, I was just browsing the web for help with this issue and found this thread. My galaxy s2 eg4 also had the bloated battery after ics update, it was shutting off randomly, flickering, etc. I replaced the battery first part of december 2012, and within 2 weeks it had started doing the same thing again, but not as often. Sure enough, brand new, previously flat battery was slightly bloated. It has gradually gotten worse, so I just purchased 2 new anker batteries to see if they fare better. When I changed the battery and took out my one month old battery, it was quite bloated and spun for quite a while.
Hoping it does better with the anker batteries, but only time will tell.
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I have been using the anker battery for over two weeks and no issues, longer battery life, etc. So far, so good. :fingers-crossed:
Most definitely a battery issue, especially when your phone is a year old or close to it, I don't know what was up with ics but that sure put hurting on the Epic Touch.
I have two Epic's and they are both 14 months old and in Dec they both got new batteries, an Anker and a original Samsung and they are both running like new again. Ones on GB and the other is on JB roms.
They both experienced the bloted battery syndrome and they also experienced ics, for a short period before going back to GB and now JB. Ics was a catalyst for the batteries to fail the way they did, not to mention that charging and discharging a battery for a year or so is going to also take a battery to its limits, especially when you plug it in overnight. At present we have no issues with our Epic's and we are just going to wait it out for the GS4 to get here before we upgrade.
EViL is on the right track even thought he likes to break stuff.
Pp.
sent from a jellybean filled epic touch.
hi i have G3 32GB for about 1.5 year i had no reboots until 3 days ago when they started. I had two to three reboots a day mostly when answering calls shoud i change the battery?
Ive seen the batterys go out completley all of a sudden a year ago so from the standards ive seen with this battery ure in good shape try booting into safe mode for the day see if its a rogue app or tweaks if ure rooted
Last month the same happenend to me. Constantly reboots. Your problem will get worse and worser. Battery was only 1 year old. Ordered a new one and problems are gone. Juste get a new battery!
Regards
Had the same trouble with an S3 Mini, went through 3 batteries within a few month. Though it was a known issue, though not such a widespread problem with different brands of phones I don't think but yeah random reboots are a sure sign of a dud battery. Do the spin test on a flat, smooth surface. Not sure how to do this?
1: Remove the battery from your phone after turning it off & unplugging it.
2: Set it face down on a flat, smooth surface and spin it.
If it spins like a top it means it's bulging and thus a dud and you should replace it immediately with an official branded battery direct from LG to ensure maximum lifespan and authenticity.
Around 17.Feb my phone developed a ridiculous battery drain with no apparent reason, prior to that I got 2-3 days battery life, now I am lucky if it lasts overnight (no use, approx 9h). Phone is warm to the touch all the time. Funny thing is a friend's samsung galaxy or note, not sure developed the same issue at approx the same time, so I am guessing, a bad app update, just don't know which. Anybody else experiencing the same issue? I am running stock Oreo btw.
I have the same issue, but for a bit longer. System is eating the battery. It seems that HTC Checkin Service and and HTC Function Test a using massive amounts of battery - 300%+ is recorded.
If you have still warranty then just send it to warranty. The battery of the HTC 10 is covered in the warranty. I've sent mine to warranty and they are replacing the battery now.
I was about to take it for a warranty repair, but the phone apparently fixed itself... Battery life back to normal without me doing anything.
Ok so I took my phone into a shop to get the battery replaced but when I went to collect it they hadn't replaced it because of a small crack in the screen and they thought they may have to replace that as well - too much money at the moment so took it home. Now the battery has dropped like 2% in 3 hours and says it has 10 hours left. Think I scared it back into life, probably afraid of being opened up...
Hello,
I'm having the dreaded woes with an old battery that seems to be losing its charge too fast and my phone is sitting down at 30%. I bought this replacement, but my phone comes back and says invalid battery and shuts down. It won't charge it or anything. I've searched the forum but didn't really see any solutions. Anyone ever find a good way to make it work? The battery looks fine physically.
Thanks!
Try to clean the battery contacts?
Could also be that the new battery is not making enough contact with the phone battery contacts. In that case you would have to GENTLY pull the phone's battery contacts slightly outward to ensure a better connection.
I had the same the first few times that I tried swapping in the new, spare battery but thankfully it's settled down now. I think I took out the battery, held down the power button for 5 seconds and then rebooted (that was how I'd get round issues like that with my samsungs).
Is your phone updated to Oreo?
No, I not at all. I was still on an earlier version until I installed H918P last night so I could root/custom recovery and try some modded roms with this phone. I'm stuck on that now too.
I've read around and seems like this battery may be bad. Others have gotten replacements and they worked. Maybe I should have just stuck with OEM.
Wanted to give a bit of an update. After rooting and installing RR and Gamma, this message never came back. I opted in the new PowerBear battery and it's been amazing. Great life!