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Just got an incredible. Have some questions.

I just got my incredible last Saturday cause I thought the Droid X was too laggy. Im a little bit familiar with rooting as I had my old g1 rooted and flashed a bunch of custom roms to that.
I've been researching the Droid incredible rooting process and think I wanna do it. But I have some questions first.
1. I'm currently on the latest OTA update. If I root, is there an easy way to go back to stock if I wanna claim warranty or download the gingerbread OTA when it comes out? If so how?
2. Is this stable for a rookie programmer to do? What are the odds i'll brick it?
Thanks for all your help in advance!
-TAF-
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Unrevoked is simple. Couldn't be any easier really. Cake walk compared to rooting my D1.
Haven't gone back to stock on the incredible, but did it for a friend on the D1, and it was simple. I have seen people say that going back to stock on the Incredible is simple also.
As far as Gingerbread goes, we (rooted Incredibles) will most likely have it first, because of leaks. We already have several ROM's with the Gingerbread keyboard, and the ROM is sure to follow shortly.
I would suggest you Root. You wont regret it. The Dev's for the Incredible are fantastic. They are all making quality ROM's and you will love them. Guaranteed!
The only thing tricky in rooting the Incredible is the SLCD screen causes issues and you have to have a zip file on your SD card. The tutorial will link to it.

Lsdozer said:
Unrevoked is simple. Couldn't be any easier really. Cake walk compared to rooting my D1.
Haven't gone back to stock on the incredible, but did it for a friend on the D1, and it was simple. I have seen people say that going back to stock on the Incredible is simple also.
As far as Gingerbread goes, we (rooted Incredibles) will most likely have it first, because of leaks. We already have several ROM's with the Gingerbread keyboard, and the ROM is sure to follow shortly.
I would suggest you Root. You wont regret it. The Dev's for the Incredible are fantastic. They are all making quality ROM's and you will love them. Guaranteed!
The only thing tricky in rooting the Incredible is the SLCD screen causes issues and you have to have a zip file on your SD card. The tutorial will link to it.
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The only thing I'm worried about is if I have an SLCD or not and unrooting instructions. Every search I do only comes up with an unroot back to stock method for 2.1 eclair that doesn't work on froyo.
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Here are easy rooting/ unrooting tutorials:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...rooting-stock-2-2-using-unrevoked-3-22-a.html
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...s/5723-how-get-back-complete-stock-s-off.html

Well, the rooting Part is extremely easy. But, when using unrevoked make sure you select a custom recovery image, that works with sLCD incredibles (i have one), or else you can't see anything going on with it. (black screen white lines, driver issue). If you want ill post a link up. But I rooted mine the second day I had it, and this is my first smartphone period. And I took java 1 and 2 last year in highschool, so i am no programmer. Its incredibly easy.
Now, I havent come across anything, anything for unrooting. So, if you can wait, dont root.
And..pretty sure, when you get the Gingerbread OTA, it will unroot your phone, and bring it back to stock.

techobsessive said:
Well, the rooting Part is extremely easy. But, when using unrevoked make sure you select a custom recovery image, that works with sLCD incredibles (i have one), or else you can't see anything going on with it. (black screen white lines, driver issue). If you want ill post a link up. But I rooted mine the second day I had it, and this is my first smartphone period. And I took java 1 and 2 last year in highschool, so i am no programmer. Its incredibly easy.
Now, I havent come across anything, anything for unrooting. So, if you can wait, dont root.
And..pretty sure, when you get the Gingerbread OTA, it will unroot your phone, and bring it back to stock.
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Yeah dude if you could post a link to that custom recovery so I could check it out id be awesome!
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Just go for it and root it. I was worrying about it for months and then I did it and was rooted in 10 minutes and had a custom ROM installed within 2 hours WITH all my data restored.
Incidentally, I can easily recommend Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS4 ROM for Incredible http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
It's insanely fast and stable, and the overclocked kernel gets surprisingly good battery life. And, go through some of the extras for it in that thread if you take a look, some are quite handy like Hulu and the Supercircle battery.
Also, the flipclock actually flips

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Here are easy rooting/ unrooting tutorials:
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Will I be able to re SOn my device so I can claim warranty if it ever breaks after that unroot tutorial?
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Should be a way on here, but if you treat your Incredible well/decently, it's not gonna break/a better phone will be out by then anyway. The benefits of root greatly outweigh the voided warranty. (My personal thoughts on "Manufacturer's Limited Warranties", however, could be an entire thread by themselves)

PGleo86 said:
Just go for it and root it. I was worrying about it for months and then I did it and was rooted in 10 minutes and had a custom ROM installed within 2 hours all my data restored.
It's insanely fast and stable, and the overclocked kernel gets surprisingly good battery life. And, go through some of the extras for it in that thread if you take a look, some are quite handy like Hulu and the Supercircle battery.
Also, the flipclock actually flips
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The only thing I'm really worried about is my warranty and being able to unroot back to stock if I need to send it in(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
I treat my electronics well. I just don't have the money for a new 500 buck incredible . I'm a struggling 18 year old paying for college and a car as well.
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Yes- first step in the tutorial is actually how to turn s-on if you so choose.

As far as the custom recovery image goes, here is the basic instructions from the first link posted regarding the recovery.
Step 3A- For those with SLCD screens (Sku ends in 3) start here:
NOTE- You'll see a black screen with white bars if you go into recovery. DO NOT PANIC- we're going to fix that right now by doing the following:
Unplug your phone and close the unrEVOked window.
Download the following file and extract it somewhere you will remember: http://dougpiston.com/files/Recovery...MG_cwm_mod.zip
Start the unrEVOked tool again and go to file -->custom recovery.
Select the recovery.img that you extracted.
Plug in phone (charge only), enable usb debugging and let the tool run.
Note: If tool hangs at waiting for reboot (safe to unplug), that's normal. Unplug the phone and plug it back it. The tool should now saw "complete".
Turn phone off and reboot into HBoot by pressing the power and volume - (down) buttons at the same time
Continue with instructions in Step 3B
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taffy333 said:
(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
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http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382833
OP there was me. If you can boot AT ALL, you can restore.

taffy333 said:
The only thing I'm really worried about is my warranty and being able to unroot back to stock if I need to send it in(i have a knack of bad luck of phones breaking for no reason and me breaking phones)
I treat my electronics well. I just don't have the money for a new 500 buck incredible . I'm a struggling 18 year old paying for college and a car as well.
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Heh I bet I have less money..... 15 yr. old highschooler with no job and $25 every 2 months from my grandma
I've broken my fair share of electronics, and have had faulty ones; from what I've seen Incredibles are insanely reliable (though most modern smartphones are).
However, rooting isn't for everyone. Like it says in the root tutorial thread, don't root to be cool. Do it if you actually want/would use features of root, esp. custom ROMs.

I came from a sprint hero. and ended up with a Slcd DINC. After reading up rooting took all of like 5 mins. But I bet I have less money.. 3 girls in school. and a wife in RN school. Im the only one working,lol But then again. my cars and such are paid for. no bill outside the norm. and my cells..
Just ordered the seidio rugged case etc.. to protect my DINC... cant wait. cause I sure cant afford to buy a new one if it breaks.lol

PGleo86 said:
Heh I bet I have less money..... 15 yr. old highschooler with no job and $25 every 2 months from my grandma
I've broken my fair share of electronics, and have had faulty ones; from what I've seen Incredibles are insanely reliable (though most modern smartphones are).
However, rooting isn't for everyone. Like it says in the root tutorial thread, don't root to be cool. Do it if you actually want/would use features of root, esp. custom ROMs.
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Thanks guys. I eventually rooted. I did it wrong the first time and almost lost my phone (slcd issue). But the unroot guide helped bring me back. I re rooted and all went well. Haven't found the right custom Rom yet. Ill keep looking though.
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Glad you did it and got it right
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Root help for gingerbread 2.3

I am a total noob, so please, be nice. I lost my phone and I was given a new one with this gingerbread 2.3 crap and unrevoked obviously doesn't work for this.
I see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110733
What the hell does that mean? And how can I get this damn thing rooted. I need like a step by step guide... Not just postings or links. I have no idea what to do. Can someone PLEASE help me!

There is not root method for 2.3 yet, not even temporary. The boot loader is also encrypted, so installing a new ROM is not possible.
The link you posted is a rooted version of the 2.3 ROM, but you mush have an unlocked boot loader to install it. Again, once 2.3 unrooted is installed there is no root method.

Is it ever going to be possible to root the phone?
Also, can I just go back to my old version? I was forced into this because I lost my phone.
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No bro you cant go to your old version
root will come soon as always devs and unrevked are working on it

snake411 said:
I need like a step by step guide... Not just postings or links. I have no idea what to do. Can someone PLEASE help me!
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Here's your guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204 But right now it is not possible. Notice at the top of the article it says when it was last updated. Just keep an eye on the thread and whenever it's updated you'll know you're probably onto something.
Just keep in mind in order to get it rooted and not screw up your phone, you will have to read a lot of posts and links. There's really no way around that... especially with brand new software versions.
Oh, and the link you posted isn't a way to root, it's just a ROM that you can try installing once you get your phone rooted.

jadden said:
No bro you cant go to your old version
root will come soon as always devs and unrevked are working on it
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true story, i heard not til October but again they have other things to do. Had the same problem with my dad's evo. He updated.. so we our in the same boat.

yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time

Fazulka said:
There is not root method for 2.3 yet, not even temporary. The boot loader is also encrypted, so installing a new ROM is not possible.
The link you posted is a rooted version of the 2.3 ROM, but you mush have an unlocked boot loader to install it. Again, once 2.3 unrooted is installed there is no root method.
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Bootloader isn't encrypted...we'd really be screwed then. It's just that it's locked, and they haven't found a new exploit yet. Keep in mind that these are security exploits that allow us to get root -- in principle, a bad thing that we want cleaned up, but we need them for root. In theory it's possible no exploits remain and they've plugged all holes, but that's quite doubtful. There's something, it just has to be found.

How many of these threads are people gonna start?
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jadden said:
yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time
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Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.

mcwups1 said:
Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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I would not even call EVO 3D "Temp Root" yet. More like "Momentary Root". That thing is sure is locked down.

mcwups1 said:
Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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Evo 3D has a new version of Sense. New version of Sense means new security vulnerabilities. We have the same old version of Sense we've always had, and the known vulnerabilities have been patched. There just aren't as many opportunities on the Evo. The older a phone gets, the harder it becomes to root if they're patching the vulnerabilities.

jadden said:
yea cuz remember devs are also like u and me they have families and lives and jobs deving is donating their time
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Exactly why we are so thankful for them. They do amazing work for all of us to enjoy.

I think the most frustrating thing of all are the people that involuntarily had their phones updated to the newest version. If it weren't for that, and the fact that there hasn't been a problem rooting since BEFORE the EVO was the officially released, patience is hard to come by.
I just happened to be one of those that happened to have this issue as well. I'm very upset because my app backups are inaccessible and this has taken much longer than I was originally willing to wait. I'm slowly hating my phone little by little...

mcwups1 said:
Unless of course it's a brand NEW phone, and they find root with in 6 days of launch.
They may find root access, but it won't be until they're done tinkering with the new EVO 3D or whatever new phone is out there.
If they really wanted to root the new GB update, they'd have done it by now. Took 6 days to crack the EVO 3D.
GB has been out since the beginning of June.
I'll keep my fingers crossed, but I won't be holding my breath.
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TheZen said:
I think the most frustrating thing of all are the people that involuntarily had their phones updated to the newest version. If it weren't for that, and the fact that there hasn't been a problem rooting since BEFORE the EVO was the officially released, patience is hard to come by.
I just happened to be one of those that happened to have this issue as well. I'm very upset because my app backups are inaccessible and this has taken much longer than I was originally willing to wait. I'm slowly hating my phone little by little...
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Dude I gave up and traded in my evo for the evo 3d. The temp root is doing it fine for me.
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I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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snake411 said:
I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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no we dont but the evo 3D does now,but hopefully soon

snake411 said:
I still can't find a root, a friend of mine still has the evo4g, so do we have a solution?
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My friend if there was a solution you would not have to post in here did we find a solution. It would be all over XDA... come on now! This is the most anticipated thing in the Evo Forum

jjrizzelcincy said:
no we dont but the evo 3D does now,but hopefully soon
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You mean the temp one for the 3D right.?
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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.

rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..

I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.

Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.

Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.

saj1jr said:
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
Shimmy808 said:
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol

Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.

So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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New To Android, but bricked my phone?

Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks

When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.

touchdownadrian said:
Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401

This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone

z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.

z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.

TheSeanTeam said:
It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.

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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....

dmarco said:
Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..

I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Nabeel10 said:
Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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To root, or not to root. Solos' Long journey to finding his fate.

Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?

I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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janjannsen99 said:
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.

Solos92 said:
Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?

I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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awrnsmn said:
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.

It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace