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Google Talk issue - after a few minutes Contacts are all offline when not

I posted this in NilsP's Business GingerSense thread, but don't think it's a ROM issue, more of a Google Talk issue. Running the 2.0 version of that ROM.
The issue is where Google Talk shows all your contacts as Offline after a period of say five to ten minutes, maybe shorter than that. I'll be messaging someone, and after a few minutes when they haven't responded, I'll wake my phone and open GT. All the contacts are Offline. A simple sign out/sign in fixes that, and the usual contacts show Online or Away.I've noticed this all week, so I'm thinking it's a GT issue, but I've never had it happen before.
Don't want to have to sign out/in every time I want to use it. Cleared GT cache, fix permissions, multiple wipes of data/system/cache/boot/dalvik/user data before each ROM install, and haven't had this before now.
Thoughts?
EDIT: After playing, it happens when switching from 3G to WiFi and vice versa, so maybe it is a ROM thing...?

i'm having the same issue. noticed after my gingerbread OTA update from verizon.
Droid 2.
It seems to happen a few minutes after logging on.

I also have that issue with Gtalk. After some time all contacts appear to be offline, but only when I'm on data connection and not on wifi.
There is still no solution for this?
Cheers!

carapauzinho said:
I also have that issue with Gtalk. After some time all contacts appear to be offline, but only when I'm on data connection and not on wifi.
There is still no solution for this?
Cheers!
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Me too. Anyone was able to do something?

Well I've since moved on, and haven't noticed it on other ROMs. Right now I just tested toggling Wifi on and off, and the contacts would appear offline, then come online once 3g or wifi connected.
I'm thinking in my case, it was that version of the ROM I was running at the time.
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Just a thought, check any task killers / managers and make sure talk is unchecked. I had the same problem a long time ago and ATK was the culprit. Haven't had the issue since and I have used almost every Rom possible at one point or another
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dragon droid said:
Just a thought, check any task killers / managers and make sure talk is unchecked. I had the same problem a long time ago and ATK was the culprit. Haven't had the issue since and I have used almost every Rom possible at one point or another
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True. Right after I rooted over a year ago, I had an issue with the alarm clock not going off intermittantly, and coincidentally I was using ATK at the time. After reading that ATK could be the issue, uninstalling it fixed the issue. Since then, I don't actively kill tasks, but I do have System Panel installed just in case.
I'm running Stock+ v2.6, and since moving on from v2.0 of NilsP's ROM where I had the initial issue, I haven't noticed/had the problem.

RMarkwald said:
True. Right after I rooted over a year ago, I had an issue with the alarm clock not going off intermittantly, and coincidentally I was using ATK at the time. After reading that ATK could be the issue, uninstalling it fixed the issue. Since then, I don't actively kill tasks, but I do have System Panel installed just in case.
I'm running Stock+ v2.6, and since moving on from v2.0 of NilsP's ROM where I had the initial issue, I haven't noticed/had the problem.
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Hi,
Me and the other user are I9000 users. No task killers. We're trying to figure out if its a stock / custom ROM issue (since we're both using the same ROM), or some app forcing GTalk to sign out, or even a network problem (we both use the same mobile operator).
Thank you both for your input.

If you're on a stock ROM (you're both rooted right?), back up your ROM and flash another just to see if it happens in something different.

RMarkwald said:
If you're on a stock ROM (you're both rooted right?), back up your ROM and flash another just to see if it happens in something different.
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Yes, we are.
The thing is that it seems to me that it happened only after XXVJR (meaning it happened to me in XXJVS and XXJVT, and now we're already at XWJVU, all these being Samsungs "leaks"), and I have a friend with XXJVS that works just fine.
I even tried flashing a stock ROM, to see if it happens again. Testing that one now.
Thanks for your advice.

Same problem here.
Although I have not tried it with stock non rooted phone...

I'm having the same problem on a stock rooted Motorola Photon. Very annoying to have to sign out and back in to see who's online. Hopefully someone comes to the rescue with a solution.

Hi,
The only thing I could find is that the problem is, indeed, NOT in the custom ROM's. It's google's problem.
The only way I could get by was with an alternative IM. And, for me, the better is Trillian (taking battery, performance, etc. in consideration.)

I updated my software which included an updated gtalk with video..so far so good.

crs77 said:
I updated my software which included an updated gtalk with video..so far so good.
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Mine got better with one of those. But it ended up all the same.

DarkSorcerer said:
Me and the other user are I9000 users. No task killers. We're trying to figure out if its a stock / custom ROM issue (since we're both using the same ROM), or some app forcing GTalk to sign out, or even a network problem (we both use the same mobile operator).
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I am having this issue too. I have had it since the beginning, when I had the preinstalled stock rom, I had it with all the other stock roms I flashed, I had it with all the versions of Talk I tried (those which supported video calls), I had it with all the other customs roms I tried (Simplicity, CyanogenMod, MIUI). I never used any task killer. For these reasons I am strongly convinced this is a Google Talk related bug.
Some more details about the problem:
after a few minutes after having logged in, contacts are shown offline on Android while they appear online on the desktop client;
despite their offline status I still receive messages from them and as soon as I answer only that contact appears online while the others keep being shown offline;
signing out and back in fixes the problem temporarily, but it happens again after a few minutes.
What surprises me is how come very few people seem noticing it or being annoyed by it? How come a huge bug like this has been out for so long and Google hasn't fixed it yet? All the posts I have seen reporting this problem on Google Talk Help Forum have been ignored.

Exact same problem with my I9100, Gtalk with video. Very annoying.

I have the SGS i777 (Samsung Galaxy S2 on AT&T), and just recently (since late February) started experiencing the same issue. When on WiFi, it doesn't appear to be an issue, only when not on WiFi, particularly if I have just recently turned off WiFi.
Other "friends" show me as "Away", so I am connected.
This is bone stock 2.3.6 Samsung official ROM (never rooted UCKK6).
I tried crawling a bit through the logs (aLogCat output), filtering for "[Tt]alk", but I can't make enough heads or tails about where the failure might be (not being an actual developer), other than lots of messages get created. I'll see if I can't figure something more useful out about it.
A hard reset with no apps installed has the same problem. Though I've noticed that the problem appears to get "worse" as the phone "ages" - namely, hard reset fixes the problem, but it slowly (over days) gets worse and worse.
Update: I have not noticed this issue at all since getting the official Samsung/AT&T ICS build (IML74K.CLE5).

Google Talk failing for toooo loooong
Hi there,
I'm a cyanogen 7.1 (stable) android user, and I just want to join myself to every other person who's affected by this issue.
I'll leave here some links to other places discussion exactly the same issue:
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=gtalk%20offline&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=24242
You may check this thread: groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!topic/chat/6m0YqHoiIDg
Until now, I wasn't also able to find any clue to what the cause may be.
Starting to suspect that's something on Google's side, not android/rom itself.
Maybe something to do with our google accounts' settings?

Are there any news about this issue? I'm having the same problem.

Force Closes

I know this has been brought up multiple times before. I just don't understand it. Why do I get force closes on nearly every ROM i flash for epic 4g eg22? Can I update gapps or something to stop them? It gets fixes after a 3x wipe and rom flash for a day or two, then starts coming up again (especially after multiple power cycles).

I saw answers on other threads that pulling the battery might be causing it, but I never pulled the battery. Also, I never get option to clear the data/cache in manage applications. Is this an ext-4 issue? I was on rfs and never received it. My journaling is enabled as well.

Are you restoring data?
If you are then that will certainly cause many issues. It is ok to restore your APKs but you should always reconfigure your applications, the only exception to this is if your updating to a new version of the same ROM (and then that depends on the level of changes made to the update).
It sounds like a lot of time to redo all the stuff, but in the end you save way ore time not having to try to figure out which piece of data restored caused the FCs

Crap no journaling/ext-4 implementation on most ROMs, causes more headaches than improvements for the average user. Just convert to "journaling on" or back to RFS and most FC's will go away.

What about stock roms? Do you get force closes on them too?

Try "Fix Permissions" in Clockwork. You might have carried over an app with bad permissions table.

jdelano said:
Are you restoring data?
If you are then that will certainly cause many issues. It is ok to restore your APKs but you should always reconfigure your applications, the only exception to this is if your updating to a new version of the same ROM (and then that depends on the level of changes made to the update).
It sounds like a lot of time to redo all the stuff, but in the end you save way ore time not having to try to figure out which piece of data restored caused the FCs
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+1. After much consternation myself.... I've discovered that it is typically due to restoring data having switch from one ROM to another... I think that I've been OK when I stay with upgrading the same ROM to the next version most of the time... but changes by the Dev could cause those to not work so hot as well.
As jdelano mentioned, it sounds like a headache to re-setup your phone but if you use the new groupings of apps capabilities on AppBrain and use Titanium to restore data to apps that are freshly installed... the only other headache is resetting up your widgets/screens and then the customization of a few apps.
Yeah a pain... the cost we pay for being on the bleeding edge.

[Q] Dinc2 Battery Issue Sleuth?

My wife's Dinc2 all of a sudden went from going two days on a charge to barely getting 6 hours.
Anyone recommend any programs to monitor battery usage more intensely? She is not rooted. The battery stats for some reason say that the Calendar is being used more than anything else... which is strange. She claims she doesn't use the calendar, so I am wondering what app is using the Calendar.
Any ideas?

LockheedX said:
My wife's Dinc2 all of a sudden went from going two days on a charge to barely getting 6 hours.
Anyone recommend any programs to monitor battery usage more intensely? She is not rooted. The battery stats for some reason say that the Calendar is being used more than anything else... which is strange. She claims she doesn't use the calendar, so I am wondering what app is using the Calendar.
Any ideas?
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Check accounts and sync.. it might be the Google calendar syncing nonstop. My wife had a similiar issue.. I honestly would verify all your sync's
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The weird thing is... I have sync turned off completely.
She got a promotional deal to get $20 a month data plan for only 300mb, so I turn off mobile data and she only uses data at home. So I have sync completely off.

LockheedX said:
The weird thing is... I have sync turned off completely.
She got a promotional deal to get $20 a month data plan for only 300mb, so I turn off mobile data and she only uses data at home. So I have sync completely off.
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Check the battery use under about phone
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Yeah, I have been doing that... is there any other program which logs what apps use what services or other apps?
Again the calendar seems to take up the most battery life under Battery Use in About phone.

I would recommend you do a full wipe. That is the only way to make sure it is the battery and not the phone.
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I would agree.. a factory reset might be just the thing. There is also a master reset on addition's website... They make you do it before you file a claim most of the time
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faehsemc said:
I would agree.. a factory reset might be just the thing. There is also a master reset on addition's website... They make you do it before you file a claim most of the time
Sent from my Mikrunny'd Vivo_w
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Edit: Assurion's.... Damn auto correct. It never works when I need it to.
Double Edit: Didn't mean to quote myself
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Another idea... your WiFi settings?
LockheedX said:
The weird thing is... I have sync turned off completely.
She got a promotional deal to get $20 a month data plan for only 300mb, so I turn off mobile data and she only uses data at home. So I have sync completely off.
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When you say she only uses data at home, do you mean via WiFi? If so, there's another possibility.
In Wifi Settings screen, tap menu|advanced and turn OFF "Best WiFi performance." I had inadvertently turned this on and found my phone sucking battery juice so fast you could almost hear it. Now that I turned the "best" off, I get a couple of days of battery. Unless you're streaming movies or doing something similar, the regular wifi performance works just fine.

I will put in another vote for full wipe/factory reset unless you're rooted. then I would suggest trying wipe battery stats first.
If it persists, batteries are cheap on amazon/ebay. No biggie.

"Best Wifi Performance" is off, so no luck there.
I started backing up her settings (sms, launcher settings etc) and I'm going to try a factory wipe soon on it.
Considering rooting it and installing a custom ROM, whats the vote for the most stable/basic with great battery life?

LockheedX said:
"Best Wifi Performance" is off, so no luck there.
I started backing up her settings (sms, launcher settings etc) and I'm going to try a factory wipe soon on it.
Considering rooting it and installing a custom ROM, whats the vote for the most stable/basic with great battery life?
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If you want more stock style, andyboneSTOCK. Or nitsuj gingerbangsense. I put Andy on my wife's phone, debloated and used nitsuj 3.0 patch and it works great. Nitsuj's rom with his patch works perfect too. Got the #21 kernel UV -50mv. I'm also hearing a lot of good from sabotage, but I have little experience with it. I'm currently using miui with aeroevan .07 kernel and my battery is insane but, miui is aosp. If you want a really pretty/stable rom you can go with either mikrunny or newts Inc 2 HD rom. Very nice 3.5 roms
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Check & if necessary, turn off some of the running widgets that might be running (including those fancy, colorful HTC ones pre-installed with various Scene/Skin/Lock Screen & Live Wallpapers (which apparently drain faster than those with a simple, stationary background) - updates under the Sense Clock/Weather widget? News app. with breaking news alert & auto-update and Gmail/Email Apps - Push & Settings for Off-Peak Update, Facebook & Tweeter, etc. Are there any VZW bloatwares running - i.e. Backups? If all of those seemed routine & nothing out of the ordinary, getting S-OFF and rooted, and you can get a near 100% stock Sense ROM with nice tweaks - with better battery life and excellent functionalty.
Just going to give a biased & partial snapshot of mine: having flashed a # of ROMs but decided to stick with Sense 2.1/3.0 only as I need to preserve GSM/global phone functionality for travel & work purposes:
RMK's GingerSense is good old reliable, like stock without all the extra non-sense, nearly up-to-date with most and the rest is easily updated via Market. It's one of the 1st. ones that I put on mine: set & forget as a daily ROM.
andybonesStock, rooted & tweaked, has all the latest OTA incorporated and easy to strip all unneeded/unwanted components, and has good review. If I wanted to look stock, this is what I will go back to.
Sabotage Sense came out recently, and is very good, fast & responsive, and has the latest OTA, support OC kernel and reliable, and more tweaks coming with next verison due out soon. Got it running on one of ours - very good battery life & great Quadrant scores (1500's) for benchmark purposes. I believe more goodies will come in the weeks/months ahead.
Skyraider's Zeus V1.3 (google for the site) out since last Nov. - Sense 2.1/3.0 patched, lots of goodies too (more than Sabotage/sorry, CS for that - yours is great) and plenty of customization, the latest OTA should be out with V1.35 due out soon anytime. It just work & excellent battery life - easily 30 to 50 hours on average, to as much as 60 to 75 hours on a stock battery with tweaks & settings optimized. Got it running on our other DI2, flashed the newest radio & OC kernel #21, it's a solid daily workforce, has Quadrant scores as high as 1750's with a -65 dbM 3G signal (typical 1500-1600's).
With these 4 Roms, APN-SMS-MMS, WiFi, 3G and other vital elements work flawlessly, *228 worked when needed to update PRL, and Accounts sync. nicely without patches or workarounds - it will function as if you are running stock, majority won't even noticed that you are running a customized ROM. In real life, both of our phones can go 2 full days before going back on the charger unless Maps/Nav or YouTube/Hulu (or other data intensive) was running as those apps will drain it much faster.

[Q]Downgrading T999V S3 JB 4.1.1 to ICS 4.0.4

Hi Guys,
I'm really new to doing all this stuff. Got my phone rooted on a stock mod and am running the latest TWRP. I'm really unsatisfied with the JB 4.1.1 in terms of speed and would like to downgrade back to ICS 4.0.4. I've looked at a few threads on how to do this but there isn't really a direct answer. From what i've read it's just flashing the old stock rooted rom using Odin but is there anything else I have to do? Also all the other tutorials seem to be for CWM which I haven't had much success in installing. I just don't want to trip the flash counter. Thanks for any help.

ODIN is the only way to downgrade from a 4.1.1 to 4.0.4. You can get more information from here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
If I were you, would try other ROMs such as Frosty, DaRTHSTALKER, and WICKED first before spending so much time downgrading. There are some steps you can do to speed up your phone including removing un-needed apps such as weather, stock, SCloud, freezing the sync apps like google account (only sync when needed), or over-clocking your CPU.
DroidNewbcake said:
Hi Guys,
I'm really new to doing all this stuff. Got my phone rooted on a stock mod and am running the latest TWRP. I'm really unsatisfied with the JB 4.1.1 in terms of speed and would like to downgrade back to ICS 4.0.4. I've looked at a few threads on how to do this but there isn't really a direct answer. From what i've read it's just flashing the old stock rooted rom using Odin but is there anything else I have to do? Also all the other tutorials seem to be for CWM which I haven't had much success in installing. I just don't want to trip the flash counter. Thanks for any help.
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+1 for debloating. That's the problem.
What issues are you having with getting CWM on your phone?

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ODIN is the only way to downgrade from a 4.1.1 to 4.0.4. You can get more information from here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
If I were you, would try other ROMs such as Frosty, DaRTHSTALKER, and WICKED first before spending so much time downgrading. There are some steps you can do to speed up your phone including removing un-needed apps such as weather, stock, SCloud, freezing the sync apps like google account (only sync when needed), or over-clocking your CPU.
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Thanks for the link. That was the thread I used to initially root my phone. I'm a little iffy on putting on custom roms as i've read that some of them mess up the calling and tethering and etc.
I've also run the de-bloater using the recommended settings. Should I go further? The phone itself isn't that slow for the most part but it lags at times. I find it extremely annoying when it lags when i'm typing a text message. Which is one of the main reasons i'm even trying to do this.
Also would downgrading trip the flash counter? Thanks for all your help so far guys. :good:

It sounds like some apps is constantly running in the background. Find out what apps is causing that issue and freeze it to see if it helps.
Anyway, in regard to the flash counter, you can use triangle away to reset the counter before downgrading.
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Thanks for the link. That was the thread I used to initially root my phone. I'm a little iffy on putting on custom roms as i've read that some of them mess up the calling and tethering and etc.
I've also run the de-bloater using the recommended settings. Should I go further? The phone itself isn't that slow for the most part but it lags at times. I find it extremely annoying when it lags when i'm typing a text message. Which is one of the main reasons i'm even trying to do this.
Also would downgrading trip the flash counter? Thanks for all your help so far guys. :good:
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It sounds like some apps is constantly running in the background. Find out what apps is causing that issue and freeze it to see if it helps.
Anyway, in regard to the flash counter, you can use triangle away to reset the counter before downgrading.
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Jellybean is way ahead of ICS in terms of batterylife and speed, the problem is on your end, try many of the rom's in the dev section, my rom i easily push 4 hours screen time. Make sure you stick to wifi as it uses less juice, turn wifi off when your away from a hotspot, keep bluetooth and gps off if your not using them. Limit the app's you have running in the backround

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Jellybean is way ahead of ICS in terms of batterylife and speed, the problem is on your end, try many of the rom's in the dev section, my rom i easily push 4 hours screen time. Make sure you stick to wifi as it uses less juice, turn wifi off when your away from a hotspot, keep bluetooth and gps off if your not using them. Limit the app's you have running in the backround
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That's weird because I never had this issue when I was using ICS. My RAM usage is never usually past 700-800/1.5gb. I always clear it and clear active programs as well. I would love it if I could just fix the issues without having to downgrade but I really don't know what it is at this point aside from the upgrade that could be causing this. I also have uncapped internet from my cell provider so I never use WIFI. Those things are always off. It's not so much battery life i'm concerned about it's sheer speed. I also don't use bluetooth and once in a blue moon i'll use GPS. Needless to say, I also shut down every night when I go to bed.

DroidNewbcake said:
That's weird because I never had this issue when I was using ICS. My RAM usage is never usually past 700-800/1.5gb. I always clear it and clear active programs as well. I would love it if I could just fix the issues without having to downgrade but I really don't know what it is at this point aside from the upgrade that could be causing this. I also have uncapped internet from my cell provider so I never use WIFI. Those things are always off. It's not so much battery life i'm concerned about it's sheer speed. I also don't use bluetooth and once in a blue moon i'll use GPS. Needless to say, I also shut down every night when I go to bed.
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Have you tried the 4.2.2 Linaro base Roms? They really fly. Check the original development thread.
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High Data Usage

Hello,
I've noticed horrible performance on my phone in the last few days. I did an upgrade to 5.1.1 in January and then a Factory Reset. Things have been much much better on the phone since. The last few days I've noticed some strange behavior. I've had to reboot a lot and it's been sluggish. I'm having trouble installing apps as well.
What worries me the most is that Google Books used .73 GB today alone and AccuWeather used .6 GB in about a day as well. Any idea of what's causing all of this? I don't wanna blow through my data - it's early in my cycle as well. This has never happened.

bumperjeep said:
Hello,
I've noticed horrible performance on my phone in the last few days. I did an upgrade to 5.1.1 in January and then a Factory Reset. Things have been much much better on the phone since. The last few days I've noticed some strange behavior. I've had to reboot a lot and it's been sluggish. I'm having trouble installing apps as well.
What worries me the most is that Google Books used .73 GB today alone and AccuWeather used .6 GB in about a day as well. Any idea of what's causing all of this? I don't wanna blow through my data - it's early in my cycle as well. This has never happened.
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I thought that the issue was with my phone but I've encountered the same issue as well.
Since I updated my note 4 to 5.1.1 my data has spiked.
My data connection has always been h+ but after the update I started to get 4G LTE speeds. Now in a matter of 2 days of normal usage I'm on 3gb used data. I just restrict background data and use lots of wifi to safe data
Do you have problems with data connection falling while making a phone call.? Every time I make a call I get a msg saying no data connection!

I'm also also seeing insane data usage patterns with android OS background. Each month more that 10GB use. 26.5GB this month alone. I've taken out all bloatware I do not use, and replaced most original apps. All apps I do use, are clearly listed. My Android 5.0.2 tablet uses more data than my gaming system and workstation combined. 17GB last month also. Always background use, usually in large blocks. This is like the svhost issues on windows. Are there any apps that parse the modules and connections the background Android system uses, on a non-rooted device? Apps that can break it down? The system logs seem to reveal nothing. I hope Google is not running some sort of distributed computing app in the background. Someone must know what this is, without making wild guesses.
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More info on this forum and thread here:
androidforums.com/index.php?threads/1081955/
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