I have a quick question, after flashing a new ROM is it necessary to keep the ROM's zip file on the sd card?
Nope, unless you want to keep a backup.
I'd rather do that backup on my computer, but I always have a proved-steady ROM on my sd card, just in case that the phone system brokes down.
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Nope, unless you want to keep a backup.
I'd rather do that backup on my computer, but I always have a proved-steady ROM on my sd card, just in case that the phone system brokes down.
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Cool, thanks man
I keep the ROM on there for about a few days to a week. There were times I had to reflash a ROM to fix a force close issue, or something else wonky. Once I've got it where I like I make a nand backup and delete the rom zip. Of course I keep a few nand backups on my card. The rest I save in a Nandroid folder on my pc. So I can load them at any time I need.
Nope no need
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Can you delete a rom off your sd card after youve installed said rom and done a nandroid backup? will that backup still bootup and run correctly
If you talking about the actual ROM zip file then yes you can delete it. If you are talking about deleting other Nandroid backups yes you can. Just make sure you don't delete the most recent nand backup.
thank you sir
I usually like to keep my ROM on my SD card so if something goes wrong, at least I have it. The only time this practice has ever been useful was when I flashed Amon Ra and tried to flash a new ROM. Went into bootloops and found out the hard way that Clockwork nand backups don't work with Amon Ra. Because I had my ROM, I fixed it easily.
Just my two cents. Nandroids usually do the trick, though.
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I usually keep 2 nand backups on my SD card 1 stock sense and 1 of my current rom. If I have any other roms Ill just save them to my pc to keep room in the sd card clear.
finding this out now flashed amon ra 1.8 and doesnt see any downloaded roms on sd card, rebooted phone and i have no service. working off wifi only, rom manager is gone and I cant access the market to download ,any ideas
"the process com.android.phone has stopped"
Do you have Rom Manager? If so you can try flashing ClockworkMod...
Sorry, just reread your post...
cbrewington75 said:
finding this out now flashed amon ra 1.8 and doesnt see any downloaded roms on sd card, rebooted phone and i have no service. working off wifi only, rom manager is gone and I cant access the market to download ,any ideas
"the process com.android.phone has stopped"
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Place the ROM on the root of your SD card. It must not be in your download folder.
I learned my lesson today and will always keep a zip of a rom on my card. The latest version of clockwork was a bust. I couldn't use my phone for almost 2 days. Thank god I fixed it.
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gqstatus0685 said:
I learned my lesson today and will always keep a zip of a rom on my card. The latest version of clockwork was a bust. I couldn't use my phone for almost 2 days. Thank god I fixed it.
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This is why I keep my ROM on my SD card. Glad you fixed it, man.
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OK. so what happens if you are running beliEVO and then flash Cyanogen. Can you restore a backup from a previous ROM without bricking the device? And if you can will app data be there?
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OK. so what happens if you are running beliEVO and then flash Cyanogen. Can you restore a backup from a previous ROM without bricking the device? And if you can will app data be there?
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If you had done a nandroid backup of the beliEVO rom before flashingCyanogen rom, then yes, your can restore the backup and all the apps will be there.
But it's always a good thing to backup the apps before flashing a new rom.
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If you had done a nandroid backup of the beliEVO rom before flashingCyanogen rom, then yes, your can restore the backup and all the apps will be there.
But it's always a good thing to backup the apps before flashing a new rom.
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Awesome. Same rules apply if it was not specifically a Nandroid? I used ROM manager prior to flashing Cyanogen.
This is a helpful thread, i was also wondering this...
I have a question, can I rename my nandroid backups on my SD card so I know which backups are which?
Also, sorry to sorta hijack your thread, but I backup my apps with mybackup, and data with titanium, but how do I restore that info if/when I flash a new rom? I'm using cm6 and loving it but would like to try more... thanks!
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yes, you can rename backups for both RA and CWM backups, I've has issues with putting spaces in the names though so use _ or -
all the old roms and everything besides my pictures
or will that unroot it
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all the old roms and everything besides my pictures
or will that unroot it
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It won't unroot it at all. You're safe to delete whatever you want to from your sd card. I suggest copying the sd card to your computer, just so you have a good backup. Then delete whatever you want. That way you have everything backed up, just in case you ever remember something you needed, you'll have it.
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It won't unroot it at all. You're safe to delete whatever you want to from your sd card. I suggest copying the sd card to your computer, just so you have a good backup. Then delete whatever you want. That way you have everything backed up, just in case you ever remember something you needed, you'll have it.
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Aren't there a couple files you need in there to be able to boot into recovery? Other than those you can delete whatever you desire. Of course some apps and rom features may work incorrectly if you delete their files. Generally the rom and apps will replace these at their next start up if they are vital.
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Aren't there a couple files you need in there to be able to boot into recovery? Other than those you can delete whatever you desire. Of course some apps and rom features may work incorrectly if you delete their files. Generally the rom and apps will replace these at their next start up if they are vital.
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Actually no, since when you load your recovery, it loads it to the phone, not from the sdcard, so you could go into recovery without and sdcard even, you just won't be able to do anything. And yes, as he said, if you have apps/pic backgrounds, ect that are set to read from the sdcard and you delete them you'll get errors, ect.
was wondering the same thing. thx for the info
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was wondering the same thing. thx for the info
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Glad to help out.
Is it necessary to keep all nandroid backups or do I only need to keep the one I made after rooting and the most current one? I have about 10 backups and would like to delete some if it's not a bad idea. Thank You for your responses.
Myself I keep my stock-rooted, my latest CM 7 build and latest Miui Build. When I do a new backup of (insert which ever rom name here) I will delete the old version. I also keep a copy of my stock-rooted rom on my notebooks hardrive for just in case times
I agree with pacer,
I have my original stock backup, and the latest backup of whatever Roms I happen to be using. Its also probably wise to have your original rom saved to a off phone place...P.C, Thumb drive or such.
I usually err on the side of keeping unneeded data rather than deleting needed data. PC storage space is so cheap now anyway, that I pretty much keep all my backups in a folder on my computer.
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I keep stock and the latest one or two on the card and then erase the rest. I do save one to the PC every now and then.
I keep newts sense 3d, miui aosp, and the ever so stable skyraider. In general you only need to have one stable backup in case sh*t happens.
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Thanks for the replies. I kept my stock back up and my most recent back up which is of TSMPoolparty on the SD card. The others I put on my computer for future use if needed. I currently am running CM7 and can't wait for kernel.org to get back up so he nightlies can start rolling out again.
Having never had to use a nandroid backup, what does it restore? Will it just restore the phone from whatever Rom/Kernel combo you backup, just like if you did a full data wipe/reset?
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Having never had to use a nandroid backup, what does it restore? Will it just restore the phone from whatever Rom/Kernel combo you backup, just like if you did a full data wipe/reset?
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It puts your phone back to exactly the way it was when you did the backup.
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It puts your phone back to exactly the way it was when you did the backup.
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Yeah a nandroid backup is a perfect image of literally everything on your phone besides the SD card contents. Kernel, ROM, apps, settings, the whole deal.
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only keep the ones you want, you can even name them.. just no spaces do like "my_rom"
I only keep around a backup of the initial stock one.
A copy on the SD card, my computer and also a copy on Dropbox.
So, I am slowly workign my way through NoSudo's post on how to get CWM installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615881
Root no problem
Unlock No Problem
Recovery ?
There is a warning about renaming the /etc/install-recovery.sh file. before step 4 of ptesmoke's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601663
I quess just for safety reasons, why am I renaming this file? Would I ever need to put it back? What does that file do? etc?
What do I do when I want to add crossix memory swap mod? It requires the use of a modified version of that file.
Do I just change the name of the file prior to flashing things through CWM?
What happens to the tablet if I am running the memory swap, and then disable the file like that so I can load a different rom? If I have like 10 GB of apps on the card at the time, it can't exactly dirty swap the memory back to the internal?
probably shoulda asked before I started, but hey better late then never right. At least I ain't bricked it yet
Any and all help is a appreciated.
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So, I am slowly workign my way through NoSudo's post on how to get CWM installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615881
Root no problem
Unlock No Problem
Recovery ?
There is a warning about renaming the /etc/install-recovery.sh file. before step 4 of ptesmoke's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601663
I quess just for safety reasons, why am I renaming this file? Would I ever need to put it back? What does that file do? etc?
What do I do when I want to add crossix memory swap mod? It requires the use of a modified version of that file.
Do I just change the name of the file prior to flashing things through CWM?
What happens to the tablet if I am running the memory swap, and then disable the file like that so I can load a different rom? If I have like 10 GB of apps on the card at the time, it can't exactly dirty swap the memory back to the internal?
probably shoulda asked before I started, but hey better late then never right. At least I ain't bricked it yet
Any and all help is a appreciated.
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what that file essentially did was revert the recovery to stock. and it was a script used by crossix for his sdcard swap mod i believe.
ive never had any issue with that script but ive never used the sdcard swap mod so thats probably why. so long as your bootloader is unlocked....even if your recovery gets overwritten just flash it again in fastboot. but if youve never used that mod id say your safe man.
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Thanks man,
So basically the worst that can happen is that I accidentally overwrite CWM, and have to go back in and re-install it per your post.
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Thanks man,
So basically the worst that can happen is that I accidentally overwrite CWM, and have to go back in and re-install it per your post.
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you got it boss. what people have been messing up is relocking their bootloaders and panicking and somehow screwing their recovery image and all sorts of amazing jazz lol.
if cwm gets overwritten u know its that file...delete it. boot into fastboot and flash cwm again...easy peasy.
the biggest thing to remember is Keep your bootloader unlocked! the only way to lock it is to reflash a stock rom that "updates" the bootloader. which is why i told everyone from day one of the unlock DONT REFLASH STOCK...unless u know what your doing!
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Seem simple enough, once you go custom stay there. No beer in the fridge tonight so I'll probably even remember that one.
Anyways, got it installed and running backups now. I just want to tryout flexreaper, and CM9. See what I like, and see if either fixes the crappy stack GPS lock performance. Once I pick I'll stay there for a long time. I suspect after I pick a rom that works for me I'll load up crossix mod for the extra space, I can really use it.
Thanks again for the help man.
Crap!
Ran into an issue. It errored out while backing up my data. I was able to just power down, and back up. When it came backup I noticed I had zero free space left internally so I know what the error was. I just can't for the life of me figure out how to change the backup location to the external card.
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Crap!
Ran into an issue. It errored out while backing up my data. I was able to just power down, and back up. When it came backup I noticed I had zero free space left internally so I know what the error was. I just can't for the life of me figure out how to change the backup location to the external card.
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currently its a bug with ics and cwm..it cant backup properly to the external...and the other problem is it backs up your entire internal....so basically if you have 4gigs taken up...its gonna exceed the 8gig.
sorry i didnt mention this as its not a huge bug for me as i dont have barely any data on the internal.
best bet is to delete that massive backup...and move some stuff (music,movies etc) over to your external. and re run the nandroid.
not a big issue but obviously a pita...
i would recommend cm9 personally...it will eventually be updated very frequently...were waiting on acer source to be released. also ive had better gps performance on cm9.
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So, let me think out loud here. The smart way to do this would be
1. Use Titanium backup to back up all of my apps, and data to the external SD
2. Delete apps, and data until I have enough room left on the internal SD.
3. Move everything off of the external SD onto my computer
4. Full nandroid backup onto internal SD using CWM.
5. Back that up onto the computer
6. Flush everything using CWM
7. Flash CM9 or flexreaper and see what I like
8. Do crossix mememory swap mod
9. Restore apps and data from Titanium Backups, or just reload from app store
10. Relax
Does that seem safe, and in the correct order?
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So, let me think out loud here. The smart way to do this would be
1. Use Titanium backup to back up all of my apps, and data to the external SD
2. Delete apps, and data until I have enough room left on the internal SD.
3. Move everything off of the external SD onto my computer
4. Full nandroid backup onto internal SD using CWM.
5. Back that up onto the computer
6. Flush everything using CWM
7. Flash CM9 or flexreaper and see what I like
8. Do crossix mememory swap mod
9. Restore apps and data from Titanium Backups, or just reload from app store
10. Relax
Does that seem safe, and in the correct order?
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sure does man. good luck!
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Don't mean to sound stupid but ill feel better if I at least ask. I for the first time bought a micro sd card for my phone. Before I start to move files to it id like clarification on a couple of things. If I move my apps to the sd card, what happens when I flash a new rom? Do I have to install all of them again? Are they automatically recognized and installed automatically? Is. There anything I shouldn't move to the sd card? Also can I move TWRP to the sd card? If I can and boot into recovery the phone will know where the program is located? Dont mean to babble but whenever I try something for the first time like this I just like to get as much info before I proceed. Thanks for any help I can get on this.
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Don't mean to sound stupid but ill feel better if I at least ask. I for the first time bought a micro sd card for my phone. Before I start to move files to it id like clarification on a couple of things. If I move my apps to the sd card, what happens when I flash a new rom? Do I have to install all of them again? Are they automatically recognized and installed automatically? Is. There anything I shouldn't move to the sd card? Also can I move TWRP to the sd card? If I can and boot into recovery the phone will know where the program is located? Dont mean to babble but whenever I try something for the first time like this I just like to get as much info before I proceed. Thanks for any help I can get on this.
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You can back them up. You have to have the Pro version of titanium backup but you can upload your apps to cloud storage and re download them. I'm not 100% on that because I never restored apps. I could be wrong but you can for sure backup apps before flashing
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