Delete ROMS after a nandroid backup - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can you delete a rom off your sd card after youve installed said rom and done a nandroid backup? will that backup still bootup and run correctly

If you talking about the actual ROM zip file then yes you can delete it. If you are talking about deleting other Nandroid backups yes you can. Just make sure you don't delete the most recent nand backup.

thank you sir

I usually like to keep my ROM on my SD card so if something goes wrong, at least I have it. The only time this practice has ever been useful was when I flashed Amon Ra and tried to flash a new ROM. Went into bootloops and found out the hard way that Clockwork nand backups don't work with Amon Ra. Because I had my ROM, I fixed it easily.
Just my two cents. Nandroids usually do the trick, though.
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I usually keep 2 nand backups on my SD card 1 stock sense and 1 of my current rom. If I have any other roms Ill just save them to my pc to keep room in the sd card clear.

finding this out now flashed amon ra 1.8 and doesnt see any downloaded roms on sd card, rebooted phone and i have no service. working off wifi only, rom manager is gone and I cant access the market to download ,any ideas
"the process com.android.phone has stopped"

Do you have Rom Manager? If so you can try flashing ClockworkMod...

Sorry, just reread your post...

cbrewington75 said:
finding this out now flashed amon ra 1.8 and doesnt see any downloaded roms on sd card, rebooted phone and i have no service. working off wifi only, rom manager is gone and I cant access the market to download ,any ideas
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Place the ROM on the root of your SD card. It must not be in your download folder.
I learned my lesson today and will always keep a zip of a rom on my card. The latest version of clockwork was a bust. I couldn't use my phone for almost 2 days. Thank god I fixed it.
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gqstatus0685 said:
I learned my lesson today and will always keep a zip of a rom on my card. The latest version of clockwork was a bust. I couldn't use my phone for almost 2 days. Thank god I fixed it.
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This is why I keep my ROM on my SD card. Glad you fixed it, man.
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OK. so what happens if you are running beliEVO and then flash Cyanogen. Can you restore a backup from a previous ROM without bricking the device? And if you can will app data be there?

Pacothebandit said:
OK. so what happens if you are running beliEVO and then flash Cyanogen. Can you restore a backup from a previous ROM without bricking the device? And if you can will app data be there?
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If you had done a nandroid backup of the beliEVO rom before flashingCyanogen rom, then yes, your can restore the backup and all the apps will be there.
But it's always a good thing to backup the apps before flashing a new rom.
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bigmoogle said:
If you had done a nandroid backup of the beliEVO rom before flashingCyanogen rom, then yes, your can restore the backup and all the apps will be there.
But it's always a good thing to backup the apps before flashing a new rom.
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Awesome. Same rules apply if it was not specifically a Nandroid? I used ROM manager prior to flashing Cyanogen.

This is a helpful thread, i was also wondering this...
I have a question, can I rename my nandroid backups on my SD card so I know which backups are which?
Also, sorry to sorta hijack your thread, but I backup my apps with mybackup, and data with titanium, but how do I restore that info if/when I flash a new rom? I'm using cm6 and loving it but would like to try more... thanks!
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yes, you can rename backups for both RA and CWM backups, I've has issues with putting spaces in the names though so use _ or -

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Rom flashing?

Sounds like a noob question probably beasty it is. When I want to flash I new rom do I have to delete the old one off my sd card? And I should probably doo a nandroid backup..
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Definitely yes on backup and about deleting old one no you don't have to, but you can if you need the space on your sdcard.
Oh okay, I need a good rom our at least a kernal for saving battery. Only getting about 5-7 moderate usage.
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jacoballen22 said:
Sounds like a noob question probably beasty it is. When I want to flash I new rom do I have to delete the old one off my sd card? And I should probably doo a nandroid backup..
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definately do a back up. you dont have to back up every rom you use but make sure you at least have one. and make sure that it works. and for the old rom. no you dont have to delete it of the sdcard. it is not like pc36img.zip where it will ask to update every time it sees it on the memory card. i have seperate folders on my sdcard for roms, kernels, themes, .apks and etc..makes my sdcard look a little cleaner.
Can someone clarify the best way to back up AND restore a ROM?
I see a lot of people mention to do a nandroid backup, isn't using ROM manager or TitaniumBU just as good???
I'm getting a bit confused on the best [most reliable] method so if someone can clarify that'd be great.
xfbo said:
Can someone clarify the best way to back up AND restore a ROM?
I see a lot of people mention to do a nandroid backup, isn't using ROM manager or TitaniumBU just as good???
I'm getting a bit confused on the best [most reliable] method so if someone can clarify that'd be great.
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Check the walk-through in my sig, it might help you out (that whole thread is useful too).
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Well I know that you should do a nandroid backup before flashing a rom. Titanium backup helps a lot. Back up your contacts by going to phone> people> export to sd card. I still question how to remove a zipped mod though.
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xfbo said:
Can someone clarify the best way to back up AND restore a ROM?
I see a lot of people mention to do a nandroid backup, isn't using ROM manager or TitaniumBU just as good???
I'm getting a bit confused on the best [most reliable] method so if someone can clarify that'd be great.
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Titanium backup isn't a nandroid backup. It backs up the apps and some data from the phone. It is useful when you do a factory wipe or wipe all data to install new Rom. Just back up apps and such with titanium backup, wipe, flash, download titanium backup again from market and reinstall apps.
Rom manager is good. It does make nandroid backups of of the Rom you are currently on. But it does not back up the apps when switching from Rom to Rom.
Hope that helped.
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jacoballen22 said:
I still question how to remove a zipped mod though.
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What do you mean remove a zipped mod?
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I meant like how to remove a rom or a mod.
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jacoballen22 said:
I meant like how to remove a rom or a mod.
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Well if you want to keep the roms on your sdcard then that is fine. Just keep them there and flash them when you want. Now if you mean just flashing from Rom to Rom then you don't have to delete the old Rom to flash a new one. Or like if you want to flash a kernel just flash from recovery. Just be sure if you are going to be flashing from Rom to Rom or a new kernel or what not make sure you wipe data, dalvik and other caches from recovery. and make sure that you make at least one nandroid backup. And make sure that it works.
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Thanks for the advice.
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[Q] I Lost My Apps

I have recently rooted my phone using the Unrevoked3 method, and have loaded up the Dark Cocoa III rom. After doing this the rom worked great but I lost access to all the apps availabe on the stock rom. Is there any way I can unlock access to the SD card so I can use the already downloaded applications?
JzMac said:
I have recently rooted my phone using the Unrevoked3 method, and have loaded up the Dark Cocoa III rom.
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Outstanding
After doing this the rom worked great but I lost access to all the apps availabe on the stock rom.
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I will take this to mean that you did not create a nandroid backup of your initial setup prior to flash Dark Cocoa III. Having said that, is there a folder on your SD card associated with Dark Cocoa? Sometimes, a folder is created on your card when you flash a custom rom that contains the Sprint apps and other stuff that were removed by the developer.
Is there any way I can unlock access to the SD card so I can use the already downloaded applications?
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What do you mean when you say "unlock access to the SD card"? Can you not use a file manager like Astro, ES Explorer or preferably, Root Explorer to access the files and folders on your card?
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Idk if there is anything wrong. What u should do is go download "sprint lover" Rom. This Rom has everything stock. After u download it follow the flashing directions in that OP. after flashing and booting into the Rom, download Titanium Backup. Backup the stock original roms that u want (back up system apps). After it backs up, Nandroid back to your desired Rom. Download titanium again and restore your system apps that u backed up before hand... this should get u back in the game buddy!
Also any stock based Rom will have the original sprint apps unless noted otherwise
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DonSolo said:
Idk if there is anything wrong....
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Like you, I, too, am unsure if anything is wrong.
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So you flashed the new ROM and didn't do a nandroid backup or use titanium to backup user apps? Just trying to understand what process you went through to get your new ROM.
Like mentioned most sense ROMs that remove apps create a folder on your sd card with removed apps so you can reinstall them if you want.
Also, you don't need to unlock anything to get access to your sd card, just need a file explorer like Astro or Root Explorer (I recommend having both).

[Q] HTC Evo 4G

Ok so I'm new to androids completly. Was looking to root my new phone. Let me start off by saying I'm in Japan and have the HTC Evo 4G. I was attempting to use unrevoked but seem to be stuck at how to get to the hboot. I just updated to 2.3.4 and when I power off my phone then hit volume down and power button to gain access to hboot it simply turns the phone back on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Head over the the revolutionary.io site, you should be good to go. You have to use that method to root for gingerbread on the evo.
Check this thread for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
And turn off fast boot in settings/applications and then try to boot into hboot I think thats where it is I'm not sure I haven't been on sense in a while I'm not even sure if a stock ROM has it but look there to boot into hboot.
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done
disregard this post please
Take out the battery, put it back in, hold volume down + power key for 3-5 seconds to get into bootloader. Theres a youtube video, can't remember what its called, but it shows step by step on how to root through Revolutionary. Very easy. Took me like 5 min to root
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Rooted!!
Ok so I managed to get it rooted without bricking. Currently backing up the phone then will look into ROM's. Thanks for the posts
Problem
Ok so my phone states it's S-off but I have DLed some things like titanium backup, adfree and when I go to use them it says unable to gain root access??
jaydub5150 said:
Ok so my phone states it's S-off but I have DLed some things like titanium backup, adfree and when I go to use them it says unable to gain root access??
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did you flash a recovery and super user apk?
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linsalata28 said:
did you flash a recovery and super user apk?
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Umm ok apparently not. so now I got that downloaded on my PC how do I flash it to the phone??
jaydub5150 said:
Umm ok apparently not. so now I got that downloaded on my PC how do I flash it to the phone??
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the recovery should be a PC36IMG.zip you flash that in hboot just make sure its on the root of your sdcard not in any folders then when you go to hboot it will find the update just except it.
The su apk should be a flashable zip just boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache then go to flash zip and choose that zip and flash it then reboot.
If this is your first time in recovery before you do anything make a nandroid backup this will backup everything in case anything goes wrong you can restore the backup and your phone will be just the way it was when you made the backup.
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linsalata28 said:
the recovery should be a PC36IMG.zip you flash that in hboot just make sure its on the root of your sdcard not in any folders then when you go to hboot it will find the update just except it.
The su apk should be a flashable zip just boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache then go to flash zip and choose that zip and flash it then reboot.
If this is your first time in recovery before you do anything make a nandroid backup this will backup everything in case anything goes wrong you can restore the backup and your phone will be just the way it was when you made the backup.
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Ok got it all figured out. To be honest you had me lost and I almost made another noob post but I got it now. Figured out the whole flash to SD card deal. I am 100% rooted now. Now for a ROM
I downloaded the synergy rom and it deleted my carrier email app. Do all roms do this?? I'll say it again here, I'm in japan so might be a little different from the states. Anybody know how I could get it back using this rom?? Or a good rom to use that won't delete this app.
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jaydub5150 said:
I downloaded the synergy rom and it deleted my carrier email app. Do all roms do this?? I'll say it again here, I'm in japan so might be a little different from the states. Anybody know how I could get it back using this rom?? Or a good rom to use that won't delete this app.
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What happens is when you flash a rom, its a whole new phone basically [os] so it comes packaged with its own apps, themes. What you can do is:
- go into recovery, backup your current rom
- restore your initial backup
- use / download es file explorer [free] from the market
- enable su permissions, then navigate to /system/app and copy it to your sd card
- go back to recovery, restore the synergy backup
- once booted, install the app from the sd card
or if it was backed up, open titanium backup, restore the app and data.
Thanks for the help teh roxxorz. I got the mail thing figured out. Worked with es file but didn't work to well with titanium backup. Took some trial and error to find all the files needed cuz the paste the whole folder didn't work. Having other issues finding the contacts and getting force closes, so I decided to just not use that rom. On to finding another good one that works.
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So I tried miui and that didn't work as well. Couldn't get the mail to work at all on that rom. Anybody happen to be in Japan and using this phone and could suggest a good rom to use that they have their au email and contacts moved over on, and have minimal issues?
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Rom Manager question (backup rom)

I was just wondering if anyone can help me with an issue I'm having.
When I go into rom manager and try to back up current rom, it goes through the process but then it says it failed and to reboot phone and open rom manager to report error.
Am I doing somthing wrong?
I've done it once before but when I change to the new rom I have, it won't let me back it up.
Thanks for any help in this matter
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Didn't think you could use rom manager for backups but if you need to backup just boot into recovery via 3 finger salute and go to backup and restore and backup that way. That way you have a for sure nandroid backup. Just don't rename the file it creates.
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Biggoron said:
Didn't think you could use rom manager for backups but if you need to backup just boot into recovery via 3 finger salute and go to backup and restore and backup that way. That way you have a for sure nandroid backup. Just don't rename the file it creates.
Thanks man, I'm going to try that now and yeah, i ve been able to backup from rom manager but ill try it your way! Thanks again.
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I just tried it that way and it still wouldn't backup, it was a message saying somthing along the lines of failed to back up
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[Q] Apps not working after restore?

Why is it when ever I restore a rom only some apps restore with it? No google play or any apps I downloaded will restore.
Blargins_Magoosh said:
Why is it when ever I restore a rom only some apps restore with it? No google play or any apps I downloaded will restore.
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How are you backing them up?What recovery are you using?Etc.,Etc.Need more info so we can help you.
Diablo67 said:
How are you backing them up?What recovery are you using?Etc.,Etc.Need more info so we can help you.
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Using Amon-RA 2.3, nandroid backup, Evo 4G, Sorry pretty new to this.
Restore a backup ? Did you do a full wipe before you restored it. That might help. I forgot to once and a bunch of my apps were missing but I did a full wipe and then restored and it was fine
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Blargins_Magoosh said:
Using Amon-RA 2.3, nandroid backup, Evo 4G, Sorry pretty new to this.
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Its generally accepted that the smelkus mod recovery is the way to go for our evo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661543
Ive never had a problem doing full restores with that. Some games need the data to be restored seperate via titianum backup I've found though.
Edit: Another thing may be that you made a nandroid before you installed gapps and such.
Thanx, working better with smelkus
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Blargins_Magoosh said:
Thanx, working better with smelkus
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honestly bro for apps use go backup and restore its easier and more compatible for apps! yes APPS only lol. as long as you dont format the sd card youll be fine!

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