I just readed this article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
Does it "sound" that we got screwed by HTC? Does HIgh-end device got suxxy sound compared to he's little brothers or US brothers? How can we fight with that? send HOX to HTC and demand replacement?
Adam
Maybe i will start sell my HOX Int. version...
I think we should react in some other way, like demand device replacement. This is a real JOKE that flagship model got such flaw in audio ...
You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
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You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
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I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
hamdir said:
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
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I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
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I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
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your joke made my day Glorious :victory: .
Well , just my 1 cent words .
You paid and your not satisfied , you can go to court and claim about false advertisement. Those who are happy with their phone they are enjoying it.
It all depends on what you really want.
I bought my HOX from INDIA... and Beats work gr8 on my headphone but the speaker is way bad.
Overall i am delighted. :angel:
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I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
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I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
this thread made me laugh
AdamLange said:
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
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Where does it say BEATS is anything more than a software equalizer?
Exactly. HP laptops have the same software but better speakers, hence the better sound. If it was something like having Sennheiser hardware in it and it was crap THEN I'd be complaining
I have to say the speakers with the hox are completely crap, I bought soundmagic mp-21's (they are pretty cheap) and sound is much better (better than the sgs2), though I am no audiophile
AdamLange said:
Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
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Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one stat out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
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I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
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sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
than really I give up, u r misinformed
you go get him tiger
Very happy with my One X.Quality is good as well and it saves me from playing with the equalizer to find the perfect setting that is...Beats is just a gimmick all along anyway and nothing special but anyways in regards to the sound i could not be happier...good sound, great performance wise now i have tweaked the hell out of it and well happy bunny
if you are really that freaked out then speak to HTC and get findings what they say to you and then post the outcome...no need to go by what one said over the net..at the end of the day is what users say and counts how they are experiencing things not just by what one person said on a blog site...so if a guy on a blog site said it was good to jump off a cliff does not mean cause he said it it is cool to do
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Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one state out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
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hamdir said:
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android being quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming
than really I give up, u r misinformed
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people are forgetting as well mate we still do not have an ICS kernel or 3.x.x whatever you want to call it which will double the performance of the phone and basically give it a new lease of life
Beats audio means an equaliser. Get over it.
Fancy pancy pre set equaliser. Nothing more.
Yes that is right. It's a damn phone for God's sake. If you want audiophile quality, buy an MP3 player, load it with lossless files and play it through an amp onto good headphones.
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I think it depends on the type of music you're listening to. Rock and dance music sound much better on one X than on the 4s. Nvidia will be patching up their drivers to cut down the crackles and pops. The thing to remember is that this is a mobile phone, as is the gs3 and 4s, in the hifi world a moderate dac will cost $3000 and a good dac can cost multiple times this amount.
I have my one X connected to my Cyrus setup and it sounds awesome, I also use poweramp to boost the subdued midrange, it is the best sounding phone I have ever heard. My stock testing track is the album version of insomnia by faithless (uses more frequencies than any other track with extremely good separation). I personally think the one X sounds a tad warmer and better than the original cd through my cd8x.
Acoustic and more gentle classical are more difficult to achieve good results. If you listen to rock or electronica of any description the hoc international is amazing.
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sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
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I saw the benchmarks and like I said the tegra scores high in synthetic benchmarks
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
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It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
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I haven't seen them, I don't game I mainly browse and I can say the one s feels smoother than the one x, although not so much anymore with the 2.x roms
btw I am very satisfied with my hox, I wouldnt trade it for any other phone, except the 32GB hoxl
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It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
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not even windows! :laugh: im a CG expert and i can tell you 90% of all my work software as well as chrome browser sips every last bit out of my 8 cores, so what are you talking about, you sound like you are still in 2005? everything is mulithreaded now especially current generation gaming as evident by the PS3 and Xbox360
the entire computing world is going further and further into a multi-core, multi-processor approach
as for my thread it was never about benchmarks but about real world usage, check this post to have a better idea if you have the time
all the performance issues of the One X are blamed on early troubled Tegra3 drivers which are much improved and solved in the NV3.1 kernel source and HTC's own software faults like the battery oriented ondemand governor and bloated sense launcher
we solved them in the 2.x ROMS, ultra rosie patch, NV3.1 based kernels and SetCPU performance profiles
this morning i was messing around with governors and my CPU got stuck in 1400mhz mode, i used it for over an hour until my battery alarmed me and you wont believe how incredible speedy and smooth this thing was
i was the most skeptical and worried about T3 but to be honest it done noting but surprise me
the main issue facing HTC to find to the balance between battery and performance or simply provide the user with performance profiles and let them decide
But don't expect a fraction of this drivers activity on a qualcomm platform, look up NOVA3 gameplay videos on the Sensation XE
Battery life is win on the s4 no one can deny this
Hi, I have read the thread about AKG Q460 and android (Headset Button Controller and Klipsch Control) but does someone have experience with the AKG K451 headphones, which has also an in-line microphone, as well as volume control?
AKG says "* Remote control and microphone supported by iPod nano (4th generation and later), iPod classic (120GB/160GB), iPod touch (2ndgeneration and later), iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad and iPad 2. Remote control supported by iPod shuffle (3rd generation and later). May require latest software version on device."
Can someone explain how is this working only on apples?
I się to this akg about 3y ago all work`d perfect as my new jays a jays 4 all works smooth and clear . Love this bass =) remote controle works too!
Cheers!
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I'm sorry babicz99, but your post isn't clear to me, so I'll try to be more specific :
I'd like to know if the AKG K451 can work with Headset Button Controller, and if all THREE buttons in the K451 remote are supported and programmable via HBC.
For the record I have an Xperia Arc S, and I'd like to buy a K451 to go with it. But I need all three buttons to remain functional.
I've found some info here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767954 ) on Android key mapping files, but I'd like to avoid such manipulations if possible. So I hope HBC can be enough to make a K451 work as expected with an Android phone like my Arc S.
Can somebody please answer this question ? Thanks.
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I'm sorry babicz99, but your post isn't clear to me, so I'll try to be more specific :
I'd like to know if the AKG K451 can work with Headset Button Controller, and if all THREE buttons in the K451 remote are supported and programmable via HBC.
For the record I have an Xperia Arc S, and I'd like to buy a K451 to go with it. But I need all three buttons to remain functional.
I've found some info here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767954 ) on Android key mapping files, but I'd like to avoid such manipulations if possible. So I hope HBC can be enough to make a K451 work as expected with an Android phone like my Arc S.
Can somebody please answer this question ? Thanks.
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Check here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Galaxy-Nexus-and-others-headset-remote-with-medi/?ALLSTEPS#step1
Also, look on Play for 'headset control app' or something to that effect. It's a paid app but worth the couple bucks.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for the instructions. However, the author explains that it doesn't work on Xperia Play. Which makes me think that it won't work on my Xperia Arc S...
As for Headset Button Controller, I already know the app, I have even chatted with the developer. Unfortunately HBC can't do miracles. The problem comes from the deeper levels of the OS (Linux driver). It probably could be solved... if someone really wished to solve it.
Hi,
i've just got those headphones (akg k451) on my birthday. they sounds fantastic, i love them but microphone on headset doesn't work with my lg l9 on android i know the headphones are designed for apple devices but it was written on forums that only volume buttons don't work with android.
Please, can anyone help me? I need headset to work.
If you want these for Android then buy k452, same model but buttons work with Android.
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I've got them already - they are my bday gift. I need some solution for the k451 model. I don't want to buy another headphones. The most important is to make microphone working.
I really don't know why it's not working on android. I tried it on my pc and it works.
droid uses a simple resistor ladder to differentiate button presses. İphone however is not open. Also i tried to measure iphone remote bur seemed not as simple they may have used more complex circuitry with semiconductors. But i have a nice solution for you. You can use the stock remote controller with the AKG cable. I made mine like that. Or if i was a chineese businessman i would produce replacement cables for android.
Hi,after a lot of research for the loudest 4 core 2gb ram smartphone i came up with the Lg Optimus G and i am 1 step from buying it,all i want is to tell me if the external speaker is loud enough and if u can compare it to other phones, i saw in GSM it has the most DBs in the Tests,cuz i am a sound addict and owner of Xperia Pro (Radio/music player Bug&Volume+) u can hear it like 40 metres away in an open place I MEAN IT,but i ahve to replace it cuz it's slow with 1Ghz core and 512 ram.....i rly need your help guys.Thanks
It‘s loud enough, maybe the loudest phone I ever had and I have had some loud phones I don't think that you‘ll need more sound than this but who knows,try to find somone who owns one and compare it to your device using the same song
My Lumia 920 is way louder and much clearer. But theres also android apps to adjust sound limits as needed
just take a look at this comparison by gsmarena. (it is part of S5 review)
Anyone got a good configuration for PowerAmp? I think PowerAmp provides a better overall experience, but, google play is clearer. Would appreciate any recommendations
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If you haven't already done so sign up for the alpha:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703/
The most recent changelog:
Alpha-3:
- added DVC support for Hi-Res Snapdragon 24-bit PCM variant (e.g. LG Gx/v10, HTC A9, etc.)
Just start with everything neutral and go from there. It really depends on headphones too. I have sennheiser Momentums and currently use the Techno preset. I feel like it gives good bass but doesn't overdo it on the treble.
Patiently waiting for Maximus to come to the HTC 10
I saw a video on YouTube that had a good EQ.
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Soooo... any Presets for the Alpha for the Speakers?
Electronic Punk said:
If you haven't already done so sign up for the alpha:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/8810-poweramp-alpha-build-703/
The most recent changelog:
Alpha-3:
- added DVC support for Hi-Res Snapdragon 24-bit PCM variant (e.g. LG Gx/v10, HTC A9, etc.)
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I haven't used the alpha but I purchased power amp a few years ago and it has been the absolute best music app I have ever used on HTC devices since boom sound was introduced. I had no idea that they had an alpha version. I have a pair of Sennheiser HD 558 headphones and I can make them sound absolutely awesome with custom EQ settings in power amp. The combination of the Dolby enhancement within HTC's phones just puts it over the top I use the HTC in ear setting then I overlay the power amp EQ on top of that. You can really create some amazing sound when you combine an HTC phone that has been sound with power amp
I downloaded the alpha build. After I configured it liked I wanted it and man if you think the normal PowerAMP sounds good, the alpha is like 2 times better. Highest quality sound I've ever heard, no lie.
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Soooo... any Presets for the Alpha for the Speakers?
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I've been messing around with it but I'm not going to share any presets as sound is so subjective.
Personally I dropped 31Hz all the way down to, what is it, -10 because reasons. Why waste amp power for that..
Otherwise I just gave the mid-upper bass a small bump and yanked the highs down a smidgen.
As an example 80's pop/dance-pop/whatever sounds really nice, I was listening to GTA VC Flash FM sound track earlier today.