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Hey everyone, I looked around and didn't find anyone having my particular problem, but If I put this in the wrong place, or someone has already solved it, just let me know. Don't want to waste your time!
I got my DINC the day they came out in stores...the first one my local store sold in fact. It was working great, but I hated the bloatware and the fact that the Bluetooth stack was not up to date...couldn't connect with a new hands free speaker phone I just bought (Parrot mini-kit slim). I had occasional random reboots, but not too many. Once or twice a week maybe.
So when the unrevoked one-click came out I tried it. Worked great.
Then I started trying ROMs. With everything I've tried I get random reboots...a lot of them. Sometimes it reboots once and works fine for a couple hours. Other times, it will loop until I do a battery pull. When it loops it will sometimes make it all the way to the lock screen, sometimes it will only make it to the boot animation, and sometimes it won't get past the white HTC screen.
I've used a couple different nightly builds of CM6, with and without google apps. I've used Skyraider 1.8 and 1.9 with and without sense. I've tried "touch of photons". Same results and activity on all of them.
Last night I gave up and downgraded to unrooted 2.1 with sense...factory fresh. I reformatted my SD card with the phone, reformatted the phone storage, and I've done factory resets. It still isn't working right.
At this point, I'd be happy to get it back to pre-Unrevoked and just wait for the official OTA Froyo which is supposed to come out soon. Rooting and using a stable rom is fine with me too. I just need a phone that works consistently.
Any ideas? I'm pretty desperate.
sounds like you needed to return it and get a new one since it was doing random reboots from the day you bought it.
have you used any of the hydra kernels to try and OC it, the 1.15 OC would cause mine to reboot. a good stable rom that i tried was JagerRom, 1.7.4 is without sense, and chocolate is with sense. don't try the OTA one because that is for people who updated to the OTA leak and im going to assume you aren't one of thoes people. haha
http://incredibleroms.com/roms/jager/
hope this helps
Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
Does anyone know if there is something that could have gotten messed up with unrevoked or the roms I tried?
Is there another downgrade method I can use? I just installed the PB31IMG.zip you can find in a few places out there...is there a known reliable source for the downgrade zip?
If I can avoid fighting with Verizon on this I'd like to. I'm obviously outside my 30 days, and I don't want to wait a week or 2 or three or more for a new incredible (if I can convince them to get me one). I'm not even sure warranty or Asurion will do anything with this kind of a problem either...I fear I'm stuck with a $500 reboot roulette machine.
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i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..
I also have had a reboot issue. I rooted the phone the day I got it and installed a senseless rom. It worked perfect the 1st day then started into a downward spiral of reboots till it went into a full boot loop. I did a nandroid back up of the original rom. No real issues since. Im still rooted and have only had one random reboot in about a week that I know of. I know the first issue was because of the rom but what causes the random reboots. Is it aloss of signal? Im a noob so Im just trying to get some insight.
Im on #2
I got my 2nd Incredible on Friday. Prior one would just get hotter and hotter (possibly due to signal issues) until it would enter a reboot loop. Hoping # 2 fares better.
johnsquared said:
Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
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ya everything works in jager. but from what everyone else is saying it seems like it could be the signal (or lack there of) that's causing the reboots. have you tried the hybrid prl? it uses the verizon and altell towers instead of just the verizon ones. i haven't tried it because im in cali and there aren't any altell towers near me, but if your stuck with the phone you might as well give it a shot if you live in the supported areas. good luck man.
Link to PRL thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723829
If you don't have problems with signal don't bother with the hybrid prl... it kills your data speeds because it switches you from Verizon data network to Sprints data in most areas. I know in the Carolinas phones randomly reboot a lot because thats Alltel country and phones don't work properly without the hybrid. But down south its mostly Verizon. Out west Texas/Ok is mostly Alltel.
But man honestly - I have the same issue on custom roms. My stock Sense rom does fine though. Sometimes I'll be on a custom rom typing a text and the keyboard just freezes and its over. lol nandroid time to me - I can't take the reboots but hate not having the features of newer software.
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i have tried the hybrid prl and it did not help my rebooting issues.
i have also tried switching to the the cdma codec to -b the higher quality compression... with no luck in fixing the reboots.
I have also made sure there was not an issue with an app causing it, i have tested mine with a clean / factory reset with absolutely no apps installed.
I have had 100% good luck with the leaked ota update, the one upped the camera to 720p recording as well as a hand full of other fixes, and not once did my incredible reboot or crash.
I'm pretty confident that htc has fixed this issue for me, once they drop the 2.2 update that everybody seems to be speculating will be released in a handful of weeks.
Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.
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johnsquared said:
Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.
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Same EXACT thing happened with me and telesales. No scripts, no hard reset, no task killer; NOTHING. Said "my phone gets hot and reboots" and they said (last Thurs), let's get you a replacement overnight so you can try the new one out of the weekend. No muss, no fuss. Got here 10:30AM the next day, and my evil super-heating 4-to-13-reboot-try prone phone is going back.
sprintrjm said:
i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..
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I don't believe towers/signal would have any effect on shutting down or booting. Basically once you're on a current PRL, you really shouldn't even have to update it. Unless you're having that poor service deal where an Alltell/Vzw hybrid would benefit you.
A friend of mine has an Evo 4g running Fresh ROM. I have one as well but run anything from Sense ROMs to currently running MIUI. I have generally never had problems getting phone or 3g service while at work. He, on the other hand, goes days if not weeks with absolutely NO 3g or phone service while at work. The only thing that will work is 4g. We sit right next to each other so it isn't some office/structural interference. If he drives 2 miles away from the building everything starts working again. He says he doesn't have this problem ANYWHERE else.
That said, about a month ago he tried switching to stock, rooted which still wasn't working. He nandroided back to Fresh (the nandroid was made when the phone wasn't working) and miraculously everything started working fine. He was fine for about a month before he started having the problem again. He updated to the latest radios with no luck. He flashed the stock rooted rom again and tried updating PRL and profile but got errors that they couldn't be updated (maybe because he wasn't able to connect to 3g/phone?). Since none of that was working he went back to a nandroid he made the night before when his phone wasn't working. Again, everything started working just fine again.
There are 4 people in our office with Sprint (Samsung Galaxy, Evo Shift, Evo 4g) and no one else has problems like this.
Any suggestions on what could be causing this? Since the PRL and profile aren't changing between when the phone doesn't work and when the nandroid seems to restore function I am at a total loss.
EDIT: One last thing: He made both nandroids while at home where his phone works fine and restored those backups while at work. But that shouldn't make a difference, right?
Had he had any repairs done to it... My wife's phone had a data cable replaced and the technician accidentally put the antenna for the radio under the board she put back on...giving her almost no signal to speak of.... Had them open it up and fix it, and now her phone runs as good as ever.
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Had he had any repairs done to it... My wife's phone had a data cable replaced and the technician accidentally put the antenna for the radio under the board she put back on...giving her almost no signal to speak of.... Had them open it up and fix it, and now her phone runs as good as ever.
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No repairs. The really weird thing is he was running the same setup he had backed up hours earlier and the phone didn't work. All he really did was wipe and restore the nandroid and everything started working again. I was in the office with him and saw the whole process. He has done this twice with the exact same result. 48 hrs since the last time he did it and his phone/3g still work. I just don't get it.
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About 6 times a day, the capacitive button on my phone will randomly get pressed by the phone. I'll be holding the phone, and the phone will go crazy. There is no rhyme or reason why it occurs; it just happens. other times, it will just vibrate, and menu items will open and close. I can also feel all the haptic feedback when this is happening.
Sometimes it ends calls, sometimes pushes the menu button like crazy, and eventually locks the phone up for 5 seconds. I can remedy the situation by turning off the screen.
I took the phone in, but was unable to replicate the issue for the rep to see. He tried for 10 minutes and gave up. I wanted to let him know I wasn't just making up stuff, so I tried in store for 75 minutes. (Just so you know, its not related to too many running apps. I have already tested this) He then told me on my way out to brick my phone so sprint would be forced to repair it, which I do not want to have to do.
So I called up tech support. and whats typical of Sprint is to find everything else to assign to blame so they can just call it a day and not have to do anything. The newest blame is being put on the Network Vision upgrade since I live in Chicago. I have 6 lines on my family plan, and none of the other 5 phones are having any issues. Now tech support is telling me to go back to the store. The phone is driving me crazy now. I've reset and reflashed the phone to stock EL29 numerous times and the issue wont go away. I've also deleted everything on the internal SD card. I've reset via ##786# too. The phone is just plain screwed up.
I have TEP. What should I do at this point? Is anyone here a tech?
Thanks.
I'm not a tech and not trying to be smart, but have you tried flashing non-stock EL29 based roms, like Calkulin's or Blazer's? I would try other roms Gingerbread or ICS, just to rule out any software issues.
yes. i used to be on Calkulin's when this started happening (about a month ago), so i went back to stock, and the problem persisted.
So you're saying this didn't happen before flashing Calkulin's rom? I would keep trying other non stock roms (even ICS roms) to make sure. To install ICS roms, you need to flash EL26 CWM5 kernel (Gingerbread), then the rom. Also flash Calkulin's format all.zip (you may have already done this), because it wipes data, cache, as well as system partition. Factory data reset does not wipe system partition, I believe (I might be wrong)
Happened to my old E4GT. Menu button kept pressing itself but then it got bricked and replaced ;p
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make sure your screen is clean.
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Had something similar happen with my first Pre years ago. I'd get woke up in the middle of the night by my phone performing weird activities and then awoke one morning to find it stuck in airplane mode and unwilling to be coaxed out of it.
Took it to the local store (was a corporate store at the time) guy was super nice and swapped it out without any hassle. Man do I miss that store. :-(
I have the same issue with my phone. I thought at first it was some sort of corruption on my blazer Rom, so I flashed multiple other roms with the same outcome. I haven't tried taking it to a store yet, but if this problem gets any worse, I might just have to use my tep for once.
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This was happening like crazy when I was on the latest Calkulin ROM. I switched to CM9 and it was still happening. Menu kept popping up, phone would randomly reboot and sometimes the screen would just go black without shutting the phone off and I could not wake it up without a manual reboot.
Today I used sfhubs One-Click for stick FD19 and haven't had any issues at all. So far my phones been rock solid for at least 12 hours, whereas before I would have seen these issues pop up several times within that time frame.
lets just hope it stays that way
I've heard this was happening in low signal areas. What was the signal like when it started?
Yup mine is doing this too. I bought this phone used on craigslist about two months ago and it started acting up about a week ago
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I am a lead tech at a corporate store fairly close to you (a few hours). If I find no evidence of corrosion or other liquid damage, I would be happy to order a replacement for you. Your disadvantage would be time to get here, and since seed stock is incredibly rare for this device, the trip would likely have to be made twice. PM me for further details.
This happens to me too on blazer 4.0 and blazer 4.1.... ITS very annoying
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Just got mine replaced and the brand new one is doing it stock. Usually when the battery gets below 30%.
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I've heard this was happening in low signal areas. What was the signal like when it started?
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You beat me to the post. It still happens on ICS in low signal areas..on 3g and 4g. It must be a flaw. I have tried it in known dead spots on about every ROM since launch. As soon as you get on the edge of a dead or very low signal spot, a random vibration then menu Popup or recent tasks on ICS.. its frustrating
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i am not in a low signal area at all, and I have tested this theory
My phone did this once a few weeks ago. It was only the menu button and I was on the main home screen so it kept popping up the menu options. Shut it down and restarted and it hasn't happened since.
I have the EXACT same problem! I have concluded that it only happens in low signal areas, and it only affects some phones. Its EXTREMELY ANNOYING! I mite get mine replaced, being that my sprint store is very reasonable. What I do is put the phone in airplane mode when I'm on wifi and use Google voice for texting. This fixes the problem immidiately but only works until you turn off airplane mode. Let me know if that works.
I'm pretty sure this is a Samsung phone issue in general. It happens in low signal areas. My E4GT does it occasionally, and my fascinate used to do it as well.
Though, I will say the e4gt is not nearly as bad as the fascinate was. If you were in a low signal area with that phone, it was literally unusable because it would back out of everything you tried to do, or the settings menu would keep popping up and closing.
I've had the menu button pop up on the e4gt and a few phantom key presses in low signal areas, but nothing near what I experienced on the fascinate.
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Alright so i've been having this problem on and off latley and its getting on my nerves. I will randomly throughout the day lose all mobile connect and revert to roaming. i know its not with carrier dropping the signal because ive called and asked for status in my area. If i reflash my current rom i will gain 3g again for about 10 minutes then lose it. I have attached a picture of all my phone specs.
Any ideas whats going on and how to fix it?
Does it happen on gingerbread roms or just on ics?
not sure. only had AOKP build 37 flashed
Sorry seen your other post with your other issues. I see you are on the new software and stuck with s on. If you want stable awesome rom with everything working I recommend the M5.01 ext4. Awesome ROM actually made me like sense and everything works great!
I had this happen 3 times today. I am rooted running andybones stock.
However my wife was on her unrooted totally stock rhyme when she got home a few hours ago and she said she got the popup as well. So it wasn't just my phone. Seems like it could be a problem with the network in our area.
I updated my prl last night on got a new number 52811. Now the problem seems worse. Called Verizon and they confirmed that that is the current prl. Also today my battery dropped from 80% to 30% in about 3 hours. Not really sure what is happening. Thought it was a Verizon thing but now out seems it might be my phone. Guess I will try to mess with the internal antennae.
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I updated my prl last night on got a new number 52811. Now the problem seems worse. Called Verizon and they confirmed that that is the current prl. Also today my battery dropped from 80% to 30% in about 3 hours. Not really sure what is happening. Thought it was a Verizon thing but now out seems it might be my phone. Guess I will try to mess with the internal antennae.
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yeah verizon is trying to send me a new inc 2 but they have none available to be shipped out until next week....
I really think it is a network issue and not a phone issue (although it could be something related to the antennae on the back cover).
I have noticed my phone getting hotter than usual only on the bottom half only when I am using 3g (but not on wifi at all) as well as network issues such as jumping to 1x where I always have 3g service after updating my PRL yesterday. i called verizon and they verified that it is the current PRL 52811.
The network issues are more noticeable if I hold the phone anywhere on the bottom half.
So, I got my Note3 last week as soon as I heard CM11 nightlies were officially available. I spent zero time with the stock ROM.
Everything installed perfectly the first time. CM11 ran nearly perfectly, especially considering it's a nightly and there are no stable releases or RCs, yet, etc.
On Thursday I spent a full day at my desk at work. I noticed that my phone rebooted in my pocket. I figured "hey, it's a nightly...I've seen far worse"....then I noticed almost every 2 hours it seemed to reboot again, sometimes more frequently. It never rebooted in the middle of me using it...only while in my pocket.
So, I figured "hey, no big deal. Another nightly or two and this should be ironed out." So I restored my stock backup on Friday after work. All weekend long, no problems whatsoever. I figured it must have been something wonky in the nightly CM11.
Then on Monday, while sitting at my desk, it happened again...and again....and again. Same exact circumstances. I figured maybe I borked something so I got a restore-to-stock and flashed it via Odin.
Well, long story short this continues to be a problem whenever I spend any significant time at my desk at work. It doesn't happen anywhere else so far. It happens with any ROM I throw at it. I've Googled around and it appears that I'm far from the only person experiencing this problem however I don't experience froot-loops like a lot of people. Just semi-random reboots.
Now, I'm pretty convinced that a different (or new) modem would take care of this. I had the GS2 on Sprint and we had a problem we referred to as "LOS" (Loss Of Service) which typically required a reboot...even on my bone-stock phone...it seems to happen with the same randomness. One thing I do know about sitting at my desk, my phone is constantly switching back and forth between H, H+, LTE, DC and occasionally E...Edge being the only thing that gets solid service about 1 wobbly bar.
That's my own theory. This isn't a deal breaker for me. It only happens at work and if I wait a few seconds my phone is back in commission without any intervention.
Anyone else have a similar experience, tips, ideas, theories...? I'm more curious than anything.
Perhaps a Wi-Fi issue?
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Perhaps a Wi-Fi issue?
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I keep wifi off at all times, wifi scanning set to off. I have unlimited data and my 4G speeds outclass my (relatively very good) cable modem speeds at home and at work (I live and work a stones throw from the NOC...I mean...literally, across the street from both places). I would prefer wifi if it wasn't sketchier than my cell connection.
So, it's not that.
How many files on your microSD card? Notice I asked how many, not how much space taken up. Android's media-scanner service seems to have huge stability issues once you cross the 10,000 files threshold. If that's your case, delete some files and see if it still reboots. I had about 10k files, deleted down to 6.5k and no more random reboots for me.
I have the same issue, and I don't have a micro SD card in the slot. The phone will randomly restart, usually after unlocking the phone. I have disabled wifi-scanning, auto app updates, and factory reset device, but nothing helps. It didn't do this before the kit kat update. It only happens maybe once a day or every other day. It's not terrible, just annoying at times. I'm thinking its a software bug.
Also, i'm running everything stock at the moment.
I have been on Cyanogenmod nightlies since I got the phone...and in the past week or two it does not reboot randomly with either Cyanogen or AOKP. At all. Still does with TW, I haven't taken the KK update so I don't know if that will help or hurt....and unless I absolutely am required to I won't be taking that update ever.
Maybe some kind of interference, that's kinda odd that it's happening only at your desk. And on stock.....
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