[Q]ROM Headaches. Help please! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I used CM6 & CM7 for years right when I rooted my phone(s). I then switched to Deck's GB. While using AOSP ROMS on my EVO4G, I would experience random reboots and force closes often. Also, my 3G/4G speeds and signals were slow and poor. The same for phone signals. Also, battery life was good, but not great. But, performance is great!
I recently started to try out the Sense 3.0 ports and other Sense ROMS. While using these ROMS, I never once experienced random reboots, and very minimal force closes. My 3G/4G data speeds are faster and the signals are stronger. Phone signal is great as well! Battery life seems better as well. HOWEVER, Sense UI drags the phone down. Performance is poor, even when I am using LauncherPro+.
My conflict is this: I think Sense UI is ugly! I don't like the icons, the keyboard, the apps, etc. I know there are 3rd part keyboards and music apps, but I love the stock AOSP keyboard and music app. There are some Sense system settings that I love, and some AOSP system settings as well. It sucks not being able to have them all in one ROM. Maybe I need to learn how to cook ROMS ...
Anyway, I am looking for a ROM that combines AOSP and Sense. I want the look and feel of AOSP, but the stability of Sense as far as FC's/Reboots, phone signal and data goes. I use LauncherPro+, so the stock launchers for both types of ROMS is no concern to me.
Maybe the solution is to get a Sense ROM and theme it, or find mods??? But I am not sure where to find a good mix. I have tried but always end up loading the wrong mod with the ROM.
Is it a matter of finding the correct Kernel or radios?
I need help.
Thanks.

wryun said:
I used CM6 & CM7 for years right when I rooted my phone(s). I then switched to Deck's GB.
I love the AOSP look and feel, however, I do feel that Sense ROMS are better built as far as radios and phone goes. When I use a Sense based ROM, my 3G/4G signal and speeds are faster, I get more phone signal coverage, and it seems to do better battery wise. I think Sense UI is ugly though, and it slows down my phone's performance, even when I use LauncherPro+. I also always experience force closes and random reboots with every AOSP ROM I try. I never get random reboots and have very minimal FC's with Sense ROMS.
Anyway, I am looking for a ROM that combines AOSP and Sense. I want the look and feel of AOSP, but the stability of Sense as far as FC's/Reboots, phone signal and data goes.
Maybe the solution is to get a Sense ROM and theme it, or find mods??? But I am not sure where to find a good mix. I have tried but always end up loading the wrong mod with the ROM.
Is it a matter of finding the correct Kernel or radios?
I need help.
Thanks.
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I do want to say that if you're getting random FCs you need to fix permissions.
That will very likely eliminate the those issues.

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I do want to say that if you're getting random FCs you need to fix permissions.
That will very likely eliminate the those issues.
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Do you have any more knowledge to share that will help me?
I would love to stick with an AOSP ROM (CM7 or Deck) if my 3G/4G speeds and signals were strong, and the battery life was better. Are there specific kernels and radio combos to help with this?
I will look into the fix permissions thing as well.
Thanks.

here is a cut down sense ROM that works very well with a different launcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14058131&postcount=1
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With so many roms available...which is best?

I am currently running CM6 nightly 8/2/10 version. I like it but there are so many other roms out there I don't know if I'm missing out or not.
I used to use DC 3.2.3 before it went to 3.5 and liked it but CM6 is faster.
So can anyone give me suggestions on which roms are commonly known as the best at this time and what functions they have over others, namely CM6?
Thanks,
Rooted stock if you want stable phone and no lose a lot of time flashing roms.
The next time that I am going to flash a rom is when it says final, stable.
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CM6 is pretty stable...Few and far between force closes, usually only when I reboot the phone do I get a FC for the ACORE I think? My big problem with CM6 is the battery. Been unplugged for about 9.5 hours or so and its at 68% with about 25 minutes of talk time and 5 minutes of web browsing...
Used CM6 for about a week. Nice ROM and I can't wait till it's complete.
But too many little things bothered me.
Camera shutter speed is way slow. It's practically useless even though it works.
Battery life was pretty bad for me. It seems to drain even when it's on standby. 4G and a few other things didn't work. It was fun, but definitely not for me.
Went back to Sense and everything just works. I do miss some of the AOSP apps like 3d gallery, music, etc...
Roms are all about personal choice/,preference. Answering that question would be up to the user. Everyone had features and other goodies they like in a particular Rom than others. It's up to you to try out the different roms and see what works best for u, which one gives u the most base on your needs.
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Recommendations for rom and kernel...

I'm not trying to be lazy here, but due to being in school, two part time jobs, a family of four, etc...I was hoping to crowd source some recommendations or what to steer clear of for custom rooms and kernels for the Droid Incredible. I am rooted and have been for a while, and have attempted to do some custom cleaning up by way of root manager and titanium backup, etc., but to be honest, I don't have the time to get into the self management too much due to the life stresses I listed above.
Basically I am looking for something that is of good speed performance without sacrificing battery life and possibly improving it (I know, we don't live in a perfect world, but it's worth a shot) along with getting rid of the crapware that HTC shoves down your throat.
I am now on the stock froyo with HTC sense and of course I want good app compatibility too. I am also a sucker for eye candy, so it doesn't have to have the sense UI but I do like a bit of UI intuitiveness and pleasant to the eye.
Obviously I am on a Droid Incredible, rooted with stock froyo and sense UI, as I've already said.
Recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Roger
Well, there really isn't anything to "steer clear" of. What I would recommend is trying a few sense roms, AOSP roms, and MIUI.
If you like sense roms, I would recommend
Warm 2.2 if you like the theme (though if you like MMS there's a problem about mms and wifi)
Uber Z if you like Z roms (pastel button in bottom right, also faster)
Nothing Special if you want to stay stock
Ziggy's 1/21 kernel with BFS (note that he makes new ones quite frequently)
If you like AOSP, I would definitely only recommend CM7 (CyanogenMod 7) with the stock kernel. I haven't tried any other kernels but I've found the stock kernel gives very smooth and snappy performance but still has good battery.
If you like MIUI, I would recommend the "real" MIUI. It's updated very frequently. I can't really recommend a good kernel because I don't like MIUI much (personal preference, some hate it but some like it). Just use your favorite AOSP kernel because MIUI is just a themed AOSP rom.
Hope this helps
Thanks for the insight.
I am thinking an AOSP, as you recommend Cyanogenmod 7, because I am interested in trying some different UI flavors. As I said, I am a sucker for eye candy, so if there is something really dazzling then all the better; however, my main concern is hopefully a little battery improvement, and getting rid of all the crapware bloat that they hold you hostage with. I don't Facebook AT ALL, I very seldom look at Twitter, and I could give a rat's ass about City ID, or Footprints, or Foursquare, and whatever else there is. I don't knock any of them and I know many do use them, but my theory is, if I want it then I'll install it, otherwise I want it the hell out of sight and out of mind! LOL
While I do agree the HTC Sense UI is the better of the market options for smart phones, but I've also heard from Leo Laporte that the straight Android OS features are also nice and allow for better streamlining, and I know there are others here too. So as I said, I'm always up for a new paint job on the Ole Hot Rod, but not if it is gonna make it where I can't pass a gas station anymore.
I appreciate the recommendations, and I'm probably gonna attempt this later this afternoon or this evening, so any other suggestions in the meantime are greatly appreciated. I just don't have the time to endless hours flashing and testing, and re-flashing and testing, blah, blah, blah.
Thanks Again,
Roger
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Hello, I am pretty new to ROMs however I have just started and am currently running warm z twopointtwo and so far I love it. The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
I have also tried CM7. It was nice and smooth and fast, however at the time I was still in the mind set of loving the sense UI. I have also tried incredibly re-engineered. That was very nice as well but to me it wasn't a big enough change.
If some one can tell me how to get an HTC account for the warm z twopointtwo I would ukky recommend that. As far as installing ROMs I have done it through Rom manager and found it to be easy. I would recommend doing it through clockwork however as some roms didn't act right through a Rom manager install. Just make sure the Rom does not specify a different file for the different clockwork versions. In the case of warm z there is two versions to choose from depending on which CWM you are running.
Have fun
Edit: also do a Google search for incredible roms. There was a page that had a list of roms and mods and such. Something to look into.
Try warm z or inc re-engineered
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what do you like the most about sense? You can get most of the features from sense via Widgets if you look hard enough. I initially had trouble switching to an AOSP rom until I found the stuff to replace what i missed from sense.
I think what I like most is the extra widgets. For instance the calendar widget that is 4x1 i use on my home screen for a quick glance at what I have next on my schedule. It's not a feal breaker by anymeans. And the more I look at aosp roms the more I consider them.
Actually I don't use all the widget junk from the sense UI, like twitter and people and such. I guess what I meant was the phone dialer and multiple home pages, and in that sense (no pun intended) I could really stand to see a little better integration and design of the contacts portion.
However...aside from not being a Facebook'er, I would love to be able to utilize some fancy widgets if i were to be lucky enough to fall onto a rom and kernel that drastically improved on the existing sucky battery life.
Smooth calendar is free and gives you the same functionality. More customizable as well. I used it until I realized I never have anything on my calendar. I live through outlook at work and outside of work I dont really operate on a schedule.
Like I said, there are plenty of Widgets that will give the same function of any of the sense widgets. I've seen way, way better battery life out of cm7/incredikernel
rcklesslydriven said:
The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
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You should be able to set up an HTC account in setup. That's what I did.
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As far as aosp, I believe Evervolv is a solid option. Not sure if its still actively being developed but I ran it for awhile not long ago and it seemed solid
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I've found this to be a pretty sufficient replacement for sense on AOSP:
Sense = AOSP + Lense or Rotary lockscreen + CM7 Sense Theme + ADW Sense Theme + Fancy Widget Pro + Smooth Calendar + Pure Calendar + Pure Grid Calendar + Pure Music (when it starts to work on CM7) + Phantom Music Control (until Pure Music is fixed) + Pure Messenger + Dialer One.
Quite a list. Some of the Pure widgets can be skipped if you don't use them (probably only choose one of the calendar widgets, maybe even neither if you like smooth calendar more for example). All in all this combo takes maybe half an hour to set up and costs a few dollars but all in all IMHO time and money well spent.
Stability is key
I'm big fan of constant flashing. It's hard to ever just choose one, but in the end battery life and stability is key. Eye candy is also a good thing. If you like Sense UI I would recommend Incredible Re-Engineered, it's a great little ROM, although it has some MMS issues, but that may be GVoice based and nothing more. Magnolia is also stable and I find myself constantly going back to it because of that.
As for an AOSP ROM I've never had much luck with any CM version, however UltimateDroid is nice and flashy and very customizable. It has some minor stability issues with data connections, but I've found that with most AOSP builds. I can't speak about the MIUI ROMs as I'm not a fan of the Apple interface, so I don't bother to test out the iDroid ROMs.
In the end, honestly their is no real winner because every phone is different. Your best bet is to use some prebuilt lists such as Android Candy or The Incredible List. ROMs and Kernels are ever evolving and the only one to find what works best is you. So spend an hour downloading ROMs one night and flash one a day and see what works best for you.
Well...looks like CM7 & Incredikernel are the show winners.
I'll be even more impressed when I can open &/save pics and attachments from my yahoo mail app.
In the meantime...this is pretty slick, the new UI and features are almost like getting a new phone. If I had the 4.3" screen then I would almost consider relinquishing my wife upcoming upgrade back to her. Lol
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I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.
kylemert said:
I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.
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You can desensitize (there's a script somewhere) the rom so that you can use Launcher Pro with the Sense overall feel.
I too love Incredibly Re-engineered. For eye candy, AOSP ROMs have always struck me as barren. Not to mention quirky. I've yet to lay finger on a version of CM that wasn't overtly quirky... kinda like a BlackBerry OS. And the concept of going stripped AOSP then spending time and MONEY to get it where a sense ROM is seems... senseless? If you've got a Ti Backup you'd like to restore whole or in part, plus just logging in, arranging your desktops, and tweaking setting, you're already putting in a decent time investment I know I don't relish repeating trying to find a ROM I like.
Gotta remember too that there are oodles of good kernels (and some real lousy ones) out there that can make a tight sense ROM as fast or faster and as good or better on the battery as an average AOSP ROM. Good choices, even with a stock ROM, would be Lou's, Chad's, Ziggy's (if you don't mind stupid-slow wake-up speeds), and my personal favorite, the Hydra Kernels.
You could also do something like ADW EX from the market. That's what I do because most of the time I prefer sense. Then there is the times I want to theme my phone and have more settings. That's where ADW comes in. Just a thought.
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IncrediblyRe-Engineered v-2.30 leave the kernel it comes with been through many this ones fastest and everything works for me its a Sprint-Evo port for Inc love the free hotspot feature and lots of different themes etc though blacklist on the boring cm7 is great if you've got creditors after you MIUI is awesome too especially if you like the iPhone display though charging your battery becomes all to frequent
So...I'm really liking CM7 with the different and extensive UI features, and though I'm not getting the battery life I thought I was, Incredikernel is alright, I suppose...at least there isn't any performance degradation.
Something that's got me confused though...I never paid any attention before, until I started playing with all this hacking, but everything, including the Rom and apps and everything is going onto the SdCard and I'm running out of storage after I download a couple podcast, let alone that I obviously want to keep exploring new apps.
I was under the assumption that all "installs" of any kind would hit the internal storage first by default and then the SdCard was just extra storage for the most part. Especially since I'm always seeing folks wanting to move an app to the card. Nevertheless, its an 8gb card so I wouldn't have thought it would fill that fast anyway.
So am I missing something here, or is there maybe a hiccup in something I've done? I have been searching the threads for some storage issues I seen when I first started lurking around here, but now of course I can't find them to save my life, and I unfortunately don't have the time to read threads for days on end. Can anyone point me in thebright direction?
Thanks,
Roger
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[Q] AOSP vs. Sense Question

If these is a good thread that truly answer my question please point me in that direction, I must have missed it.
When it comes to the Evo 4g specifically, what are some of the disadvantages of going with an AOSP rom, and what are the reasons for them? (Not CM7 specifically, AOSP in general)
Such as, it sounds like GPS and the compass generally do not work as well in AOSP builds as in Sense. -> is it true and is it just due to not being able to use HTC drivers/code?
3g speeds are slower -> Same as gps?
Thank you!
Im on CM7, and no faults. My 4G I can get 6mb down...3G is fine. My GPS is SPOT on while indoors even, never have had to use a fix. AOSP in general is smaller in size, so it can run faster. The only downside is you don't get sense apps and widgets. Though while on AOSP you have to flash a sense rom to update PRL, but that takes 5 minutes.
Some users have different experiences though. Its worth a try.
In my experience, AOSP ROMs have better battery life without sacrificing performance or neutering push notifications. Also AOSP is going to be your earliest opportunity to play with the latest Android builds.
Maybe I am doing something wrong but when I'm on cm7 my gps does not work very well at all. I would use AOSP but I personally have not found one that my gps is reliable on.
jplowamn said:
Maybe I am doing something wrong but when I'm on cm7 my gps does not work very well at all. I would use AOSP but I personally have not found one that my gps is reliable on.
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Did you try the fix on a sense rom? Also, you can try opening maps first, then navigation; that works for some users.

What are some recommended ROMs?

I'm looking for a new ROM to use -- I'm currently on CM7, but it always lags a bit and I have to reboot quite often to get different menus to appear that aren't.
I'm looking for something flashy, but still quick and battery-efficient. So far, I have tried MIUI and IncRom, with my favorite so far being IncRom.
Any suggestions?
If you're getting lag on CM7, then its going to be way worse on a sense rom. What CM7 version and kernel are you using? It sounds like you may have an obscene amount of apps installed/running, or something else in your setup must be off. What is your rom installation procedure? I never had lag with CM7 or any issues accessing menus and I don't think my experience is unique.
Personally, I am having really good luck with newtoroot and wdfowty's inc2 roms. Newts is basically stock and wd's inc2 remix has some 3.0 added on top of the 2.1. Both are very good on battery and smooth as well.

Suggestions on a Fast Rom that's not vanilla

Hey everybody!
I just got my G2 yesterday (traded for my mytouch 4G) and I'm loving it. I already downgraded from 2.3.4 and rooted it. Now I'm looking for a good rom. I see some roms that I've used on my Mytouch 4g, but I want to know what the community favorites are. I'm going to flash any random one right now, but based on your suggestions I'll flash a keeper later (and eventually ICS Rom once Wifi and keyboard are fully fixed). Thanks!!!
MIUI, I'm on bulletproof, but looks like its not getting updated anymore, so you might want to go with miui osimood. also MIUI 4.0 (ics) is on the works, so i'm hoping to get that oneday. UI is quite heavily customized, like it or not, i use it.
Check out G-Lite: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349030
It's fast and stable and battery life is amazing. Also works with TMO wifi calling which was a huge plus for me.
Don't be a fool! Stick with vanilla - all other roms I have ever use suffer from random issues that I constantly had to attend to.
Go with G-lite, it's fantastic. Great battery life, super super fast, great everything.
Im gonna check out g-lite. I've been having problems with every rom I've tried so far...hopefully not this one
You want FAST? Then meXdroidROM is your best bet. Really good ROM!
vikashfoolsu said:
Hey everybody!
I just got my G2 yesterday (traded for my mytouch 4G) and I'm loving it. I already downgraded from 2.3.4 and rooted it. Now I'm looking for a good rom. I see some roms that I've used on my Mytouch 4g, but I want to know what the community favorites are. I'm going to flash any random one right now, but based on your suggestions I'll flash a keeper later (and eventually ICS Rom once Wifi and keyboard are fully fixed). Thanks!!!
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Sense UI is the best as per me, as it is complete in terms of everything, either dialer, message app, gps app, navigation app, social networking, etc.
It has everything and moreover its appearance is soothing to eyes.
The only drawback is that its resource consuming.
But as a solution to that, i used RomCleaner Script. It removes all the unnecessary bloatware from sense roms, however I use a custom cleaning list to leave back the skins and wallpapers and apps that I use.
Use that and If you are running upto sense 3.0 roms that would run smooth without lag even when you are playing 3D games.
However if you are going for sense 3.5 roms then you need to enable swap to have your phone lag free and smooth even when you are playing 3D games.
And following these steps will help you increase your battery life a lot.
I'm using Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 being a sense fan, and i'm not encountering any lag ever even without overcloaking.
Hope that helps.
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Almost vanilla but glite is the way to go, fast, stable, and awesome battery life!
I'm an obsessive rom tester and this is a summary of what I have found on the G2:
All sense roms: 2/4 features, 1/4 speed
G-lite: 1/4 features, 3/4 speed
Cyanogenmod 7: 3/4 features, 2/4 speed
MIUI.US: 3/4 features, 3/4 speed
ILWT with GoLauncher, ILWT kernel and daemon, OCed to 1.3 GHz: 4/4 features, 4/4 speed
ILWT takes a little bit of tweaking from default (done easily by changing a text file read on the installation of the rom), but out of every rom to grace the G2 forums, this is the only one I've been able to settle down with. Even with the default settings it is a really amazing rom, but with the right tweaks it blows everything else away in terms of speed and functionality.
Many of these roms I have not had a chance to try their most recent version, so I doubt this report has a high degree of accuracy. "Speed" is based on my personal observations and not measured by performance tools. "Features" are highly subjective and based on built-in function and customization.
(Admittedly, I've never tried meXdroidMod because the screenshots make me wish they sold eye bleach.)
Most if not all of the meXdroid eye candy can be turned off It's really really smooth and fast, never had any problems with it and awesome battery life
Good thread! I'd also like to know what everyone's using, as I've got a UK Desire Z that I put Virtuous Unity on, and after a month or so I'm coming away disapointed.
While Sense 3.0 is very nice looking, it's not as slick on the DZ and the ROM in general seems to lag, or totally freeze up too often...like just now, I unlocked the phone, then went to settings and I had to wait around 10 seconds for it go from a black screen with the status bar to actually letting me select the options within settings.
One of the biggest downsides though the lack of landscape in the home screen!
Does anyone know which ROMs actually support having a landscape home screen?

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