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I have two questions.
I have been eyeing either this phone or the GN for a while now, and I am about ready to just shut up and grab the SGS2 already.
Looking online, the only thing that should be coming out anytime too soon is the Blaze which I am still assuming is not an upgraded SGS2 (I don't know if people are just paranoid, or ready for another Vibrant 4g situation). So it seems like I won't be kicking myself in a few months about the SGS2 (minus, MAYBE, a GN release).
So long story short.
Question 1: Have I missed evidence on why I should wait 1 or 2 months to grab a new phone?
Question 2: What would be the smartest way to get one?
Short story long again:
Ebay has new in box phones starting at 499 with shipping, but one has no returns and the other has 3 days. Will ebay/paypal protection save me if I find out there are problems with the phone outside those few days?
I hate asking this, but what problems would I want to look for? Unless they develop over time I don't want to know about the screen issues I have heard mentioned vaguely, but others seem to imply it's not a big deal so if I never notice it then it's not hurting me.
I am wanting to use Ebay because it is 100 bucks cheaper than Amazon but Tmobile would only be like 598 or something. Should I stop being so paranoid and just grab it from ebay?
Sorry, I stayed up way too late with my finger over the mouse button and I am now just about ready to start pacing but I am not getting google search results to do anything to calm or warn me yet. Is it worth the 100 bucks to buy it from Ebay instead of straight from Tmobile?
Sorry, I will stop spazzing.
Those people who have unopened boxes of galaxy s 2 are people who are eligible for an upgrade but like their current phone so they decide to make money of their contract. I recently did this.my mom didn't want a new phone so I used her upgrade to buy a new gs2 and sold out on Ebay for $500. These people are legit and Ebay will make sure you don't get scammed.you should just buy it
Question 1: Tmobile is not releasing a new amazing phone for awhile. (unless somehow the galaxy s2 HD comes over). But that is not likely at all.so there is no need to wait.unless you want to wait another year for the galaxy s3. Ice cream sandwich is just around the corner. Right now is the best time to get it.
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Thanks for the response, I am just worried I get it and, say, the speaker phone is messed up and I learn about it a day or two after the return window and then I have trouble getting it fixed instead of just returning it or exchanging it.
I have never had to do that though, so 100 bucks is a lot to KNOW I can.
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Those people who have unopened boxes of galaxy s 2 are people who are eligible for an upgrade but like their current phone so they decide to make money of their contract. I recently did this.my mom didn't want a new phone so I used her upgrade to buy a new gs2 and sold out on Ebay for $500. These people are legit and Ebay will make sure you don't get scammed.you should just buy it
Question 1: Tmobile is not releasing a new amazing phone for awhile. (unless somehow the galaxy s2 HD comes over). But that is not likely at all.so there is no need to wait.unless you want to wait another year for the galaxy s3. Ice cream sandwich is just around the corner. Right now is the best time to get it.
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Seriously? You'd advocate risking getting your phone's IMEI number blacklisted to save $30?
The phones are $529 from t-mobile.
Why risk it for $30??? These "new" phones can be reported as lost then the insurance replaces it and they block the IMEI number and the sucker is out $400-$500.
BTW, Getting a "free" phone on a subsidy plan doesn't make the phone free, you're still paying for it over the 2 year term. With T-mobiles Unlimited Talk,Text, Web for $50 + buying the phone outright, over the 2 years a contract would run, you are paying out $1200+$530 for the phone so $1730. For the equivilant plan with a "free" phone you're paying $80 a month over 24 months so $1920.
So $1920 - $1730 = $190 You pay more for the phone than if you bought the phone with cash. And just looking now, you have to pony up $280 to buy the phone when you "upgrade" then a $50 rebate, so you're paying even more.
Heck, with T-mobile you can ge tthe non subsidized plan for $0 a month, pay $200 down, and finance the phone with T-mobile for $20 a month and come out ahead if you are looking for the least amount up front.
BTW, Ebay buyer protection is only good for 30 days after the sale, on day 31 the seller can report the phone "lost" and have it turned off and get their replacement.
i agree with gallaxxeess
no point saving $30 if you have a high risk of having your IMEI black listed
there's a topic about it in General
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Seriously? You'd advocate risking getting your phone's IMEI number blacklisted to save $30?
The phones are $529 from t-mobile.
Why risk it for $30??? These "new" phones can be reported as lost then the insurance replaces it and they block the IMEI number and the sucker is out $400-$500.
BTW, Getting a "free" phone on a subsidy plan doesn't make the phone free, you're still paying for it over the 2 year term. With T-mobiles Unlimited Talk,Text, Web for $50 + buying the phone outright, over the 2 years a contract would run, you are paying out $1200+$530 for the phone so $1730. For the equivilant plan with a "free" phone you're paying $80 a month over 24 months so $1920.
So $1920 - $1730 = $190 You pay more for the phone than if you bought the phone with cash. And just looking now, you have to pony up $280 to buy the phone when you "upgrade" then a $50 rebate, so you're paying even more.
Heck, with T-mobile you can ge tthe non subsidized plan for $0 a month, pay $200 down, and finance the phone with T-mobile for $20 a month and come out ahead if you are looking for the least amount up front.
BTW, Ebay buyer protection is only good for 30 days after the sale, on day 31 the seller can report the phone "lost" and have it turned off and get their replacement.
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You're assuming it's claimed as insurance fraud... and with taxes it's a 100 dollar difference. I do agree there is a risk though.
Edit: so thinking about that possibility I realized its sort of dumb for me to not just call up T-Mobile and see what they say about these sort if things (knowing they'd rather I give them NY money). I am legitimately thanking you for helping me solidify my paranoia to a point.
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If you wanna be happy, keep your vibrant and wait a few months. I recommend getting the GN if you have the money because it has a better screen, but if you want you could wait until ICS is offically released and then buy it.
If you have been used to the iphone screen, or any good res LCD screen, youll notice issues with the display on our GS2.
I get the phones for free by price matching at best buy.thus makes them have no mail in rebate and no monthly additional fee.
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If you wanna be happy, keep your vibrant and wait a few months. I recommend getting the GN if you have the money because it has a better screen, but if you want you could wait until ICS is offically released and then buy it.
If you have been used to the iphone screen, or any good res LCD screen, youll notice issues with the display on our GS2.
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I appreciate the opinion, although I am banking on "ignorance is bliss" when it comes to higher res screens. The expandable storage and currently only over seas options of the GN are why I am just going with the SGS2, but with sprint releasing one it is making me wonder if waiting would be smart. I would be happy with whatever I get, but I am pretty sick of my poor old vibrant.
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I get the phones for free by price matching at best buy.thus makes them have no mail in rebate and no monthly additional fee.
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Didn't mean to thanks you, if anyone wonders why, but what do you mean? As much as I hate big corporation and all, I just can't pull myself to do scams or I would "lose" my current phone. Not saying that's what you're doing, but so far that's what it sounds like.
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Similar situation. I just traded some BMW work for a NIB SGS2 off of craigslist. Upgrade phone he didnt want.
Just contacted CS
I asked about what they said and all they could say is "maybe...". They can't/won't verify that I purchased the phone so if the person were to claim it was stolen I would be SOL (I have read about a guy who got the seller in trouble in a similar situation with Sprint, but I don't want to go off something like that).
I guess I just have to re-budget 600 instead of 500.
why not just print the page ur phone is advertised on ? if its ebay the guy would have to setup an account every time he wantes to scam someone
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Pay with paypal. If the seller claims insurance fraud Paypal will get you your money back (may take time while they investigate but they will get it). Ebay is safe to buy from with all the fraud protection especially when you pay with paypal. DON"T DO IT ON CRAIGSLIST!!!
Don't wait for the Blaze, trust me, just get the SGSII or GN.
FYI, T-Mobile doesn't make money off handsets. When will people learn this. They make money off the monthly service. They are a SERVICE company, NOT a phone manufacturer. Go ahead and ask any question you want. In fact, T-Mobile prefer you have your own phone so they don't have to subsidize you!
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Pay with paypal. If the seller claims insurance fraud Paypal will get you your money back (may take time while they investigate but they will get it). Ebay is safe to buy from with all the fraud protection especially when you pay with paypal. DON"T DO IT ON CRAIGSLIST!!!
Don't wait for the Blaze, trust me, just get the SGSII or GN.
FYI, T-Mobile doesn't make money off handsets. When will people learn this. They make money off the monthly service. They are a SERVICE company, NOT a phone manufacturer. Go ahead and ask any question you want. In fact, T-Mobile prefer you have your own phone so they don't have to subsidize you!
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+1 . EBay is safe if you pay with paypal. Stay away from Craigslist!
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I bought my s2 from craigslist for $550 (white). It came brand new in a box, however headphones were missing. I have bunch of good headphones here and there so i didn't care. But the phone was in original packaging and I got within 3 days. I am happy with my purchase.
The last time i bought my galaxy 4g first series from someone advertising on craigslist, brand new phone but when i brought it home and try to use, the phone mic never worked. I called samsung and they told me to ship it to them and I received my phone back within 5 business days. They fixed it for free and even paid for overnight shipping.
I never had any issue with Samsung or Apple.
You don't wanna know my story with Dell and ATT when I ended up paying almost $2000 for a Dell Streak phone I never received.
Galaxy blaze is coming soon...wait for that
There's a leaked tmo map that shows 3 devices to b released in the next 2 months. One on the 18th 2 more in Feb.
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Galaxy blaze is coming soon...wait for that
There's a leaked tmo map that shows 3 devices to b released in the next 2 months. One on the 18th 2 more in Feb.
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I am still pretty sure the blaze will not be an upgrade, probably just a 4" phone...
Any way, doesn't matter, I went to Tmobile and bought myself a new SGS2... having trouble with my new plan though... ugh...
I just bought this white gs2 in the marketplace from another xda member. Bnib as stated, no problems & for around $450
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Ok so i'm realizing as i've been reading the threads, that many of us came from evo 3d, and photon, and nexus s. How are you guys able to get e4gt without your contracts being up? I know that some of those phones are less than a year old. and i'm pretty sure some of us will move on from e4gt to galaxy nexus when it comes out. Whats your trade secret? I can't really imagine, people cashing up $500 + every few months? even if you were to sell your old phone to off set the difference.
can you guys please tell me your secret? because i would love to get the latest phones, with minimum money spent.
I'm an avowed gadget freak and when Sprint still had the BTA (bill to account) option, I bought many phones at full price but since they disbanded that lovely feature I've had to resort to calling in and requesting an earlier upgrade (worked once and I used it for that pos EVO 3D). I also used to have 5 active lines, most of those I only activated to get a new phone lol so I paid probably 3 times as much with service, etc.
Some people have better luck than others and get an early upgrade often, I'm guessing it's a case of who you know over blind luck.
Sell the old one to put towards the new one
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It is actually REALLY easy.
It is called Sprint Total Equipment Protection
As you can see below I have had a few phones, Only the Samsung Epic1 was actually upgraded. Everything else is thanks to TEP.
Before I would get broken phones and use TEP to get like new phones and sell them to buy a new phone, but it is even easier now, they offer similar phones to yours. So, In June I bought the Evo 3D, got bored with it by december. Wanted the ET4G, that wasn't available through TEP, so I got the Photon. Got bored of that, then swapped my Photon for the ET4G.
Seriously, that $8 a month is well worth it, AND if you brick your phone, you get a new one!
I sell my girlfriend for money.
now you know.
for me, I just make sure to keep my devices in pristine condition. That way I can sell mine on craigslist and just put in the difference against the retail price of new phone. so im usually out of B/T $200-$250 for new phone
Well, I used to get the Premier subsidy every year so I could get a brand new phone every summer for $200. That's how I've gotten my last several phones. Went from a Sanyo flip phone (before Premier) to a Palm Treo 650. Kept that for 2 years, got a HTC Mogul, that crapped out and TEP replaced it with a new or refurb HTC Touch Pro. This is around when the Premier perks started. Had that for maybe a half a year and then when my contract was up I got a launch day Palm Pre. Had that for a year and got a Premier upgrade to an HTC Evo. That just broke on me a few months ago but I had talked them into keeping my last Premier upgrade on my account so I was able to sell back my broken Evo for $90 and pay like $110 out of pocket for the E4GT.
Trying to keep it in good shape (probably will have to get the USB jig to reset the flash count) so I can sell it and buy the SGS3 whenever it shows up on Sprint in the Fall or whatever.
Its very simple....craigslist lol. I sold my evo 3d for $240 and found a guy selling white epics for 350. My girlfriend did the same thing
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Ditto
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for me, I just make sure to keep my devices in pristine condition. That way I can sell mine on craigslist and just put in the difference against the retail price of new phone. so im usually out of B/T $200-$250 for new phone
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+1 so do i
Censura_Umbra said:
It is actually REALLY easy.
It is called Sprint Total Equipment Protection
As you can see below I have had a few phones, Only the Samsung Epic1 was actually upgraded. Everything else is thanks to TEP.
Before I would get broken phones and use TEP to get like new phones and sell them to buy a new phone, but it is even easier now, they offer similar phones to yours. So, In June I bought the Evo 3D, got bored with it by december. Wanted the ET4G, that wasn't available through TEP, so I got the Photon. Got bored of that, then swapped my Photon for the ET4G.
Seriously, that $8 a month is well worth it, AND if you brick your phone, you get a new one!
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Wait...so if I ever sell my soul to the Devil and jump to the iPhone, it would cost me $100? Do you have to give them the phone you have now or can you flip it? Just say you lost the phone on the airplane lol...
I get money!!!!
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Wait...so if I ever sell my soul to the Devil and jump to the iPhone, it would cost me $100? Do you have to give them the phone you have now or can you flip it? Just say you lost the phone on the airplane lol...
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They kill the ESN so it can't be reactivated on Sprint but there are lots of phones with bad ESNs still being sold on ebay and elsewhere.
One of the benefits of having a real job, I suppose.
Having a job with no debt. And the fact that I got a pristine et4g off craigslist for 275
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I personally have a friend that does work with Sprint and he can get phones brand new at "New Contract" prices... Then I just sell my phone on craigslist!
That's like when the Galaxy Nexus comes out, it will most likely be $199-$249 and I can get $300 for my E4GT when I decide to sell it!
With this method, I actually come out on top!
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Wait...so if I ever sell my soul to the Devil and jump to the iPhone, it would cost me $100? Do you have to give them the phone you have now or can you flip it? Just say you lost the phone on the airplane lol...
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That would be fraud but why are there so many bad esn phones .....impossible to prove really I am sure people do it
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"phone-feens" always find a way to get the newest ish, most of the time its flipping a old phone for a new one... with little cash difference. you be surprise how a head of normal people us xda members are in regard to the newest technology, for example I sold my g2x for $200 and got a epic touch for $260.... $60 difference. But the point is some1 though the the g2x was worth $200, while in the xda world, thats old technology... I switch phones at least 3-4 times a year... I love playing with the new ish! I think we all do! If I don't root my phone then I root my girl, but i'm rooting something, lol
Censura_Umbra said:
It is actually REALLY easy.
It is called Sprint Total Equipment Protection
As you can see below I have had a few phones, Only the Samsung Epic1 was actually upgraded. Everything else is thanks to TEP.
Before I would get broken phones and use TEP to get like new phones and sell them to buy a new phone, but it is even easier now, they offer similar phones to yours. So, In June I bought the Evo 3D, got bored with it by december. Wanted the ET4G, that wasn't available through TEP, so I got the Photon. Got bored of that, then swapped my Photon for the ET4G.
Seriously, that $8 a month is well worth it, AND if you brick your phone, you get a new one!
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You do know three claims in 12 months will get your insurance terminated, correct?
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You do know three claims in 12 months will get your insurance terminated, correct?
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Rightfully deserved too.
That is Fraud.
I make good money.
No intention to start a flame thread but an honest question. How bad is this phone? I've been trying to sell a NIB factory sealed Black version for a month now with no success. My only thought is that either I'm asking way too much, this phone is junk or the folks on craigs are idiots. I've considered listing in the market place but am more comfortable with meeting the buyer at a Sprint Store so they can verify clean ESN.
Probably the Craigslist people just want their "iphone" this phone is like best phone for me
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Don't take this the wrong way but you may need to bump your MP thread. I looked there yesterday before putting feelers out via WTB thread - had I seen your post I probably would have looked there first.
As for price, can't say anything yet until I see the post. But assuming the GS3 comes out on time I'll bet the E4GT prices will drop pretty quickly - especially with the preorder numbers they're talking about. (E4GT though is on fire with my MVNO - they've run out multiple times already since it went on sale in March)
IMO, This is probably one of the best phones out there right now. You are probably having a whole bucket load of bad luck, or no one in your area needs one at this time...
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No intention to start a flame thread but an honest question. How bad is this phone? I've been trying to sell a NIB factory sealed Black version for a month now with no success. My only thought is that either I'm asking way too much, this phone is junk or the folks on craigs are idiots. I've considered listing in the market place but am more comfortable with meeting the buyer at a Sprint Store so they can verify clean ESN.
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This is an amazing phone. What are you asking for it?
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Don't take this the wrong way but you may need to bump your MP thread. I looked there yesterday before putting feelers out via WTB thread - had I seen your post I probably would have looked there first.
As for price, can't say anything yet until I see the post. But assuming the GS3 comes out on time I'll bet the E4GT prices will drop pretty quickly - especially with the preorder numbers they're talking about. (E4GT though is on fire with my MVNO - they've run out multiple times already since it went on sale in March)
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I haven't put it on MP yet as I wanted to be able to have the buyer verify the ESN at a local store. Considering I'm listing locally at $125 below Sprint's off contract price you would think I would have received a better offer than a used iPhone 4 (not 4s).
I may have no choice but to list it on MP.
Also, please keep in mind that Amazon is still running the $.01 sale for this device so it's got tough competition in addition to the upcoming GS3 - looked through and saw a few others trying to sell at the $250-280 level and not getting much movement.
And just an update for those looking at pricing - the upgrade/new contract price dropped to $149 on the website. Makes sense but still too high IMO - who wouldn't shell out an extra $50 for the GS3?
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Also, please keep in mind that Amazon is still running the $.01 sale for this device so it's got tough competition in addition to the upcoming GS3 - looked through and saw a few others trying to sell at the $250-280 level and not getting much movement.
And just an update for those looking at pricing - the upgrade/new contract price dropped to $149 on the website. Makes sense but still too high IMO - who wouldn't shell out an extra $50 for the GS3?
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So a factory sealed, NIB, off contract won't sell for $250, that's stupid!!! So in short this phone WAS a waste of money.
Ok i will try to do this in a positive fashion. I have an evo 3d, my son an epic t4g. Both phones are excellent, (more so with touch), but when they are stuck on this less than quality network, the term pos can sometimes apply. But ymmv, it depends upon location. I would not buy either again on a 2 year contract. I use craigslist all the time, items move if priced properly. If you notice sprint items always go for less, the network kills their resale value.
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So a factory sealed, NIB, off contract won't sell for $250, that's stupid!!! So in short this phone WAS a waste of money.
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EBay bro. It'll sell
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EBay bro. It'll sell
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Highest I just saw there ending in past 24 hrs is 330. Might not be a bad idea, market the heck out of it if you go that route!
SII was the best Android phone out for months. Note that I said "was" because that's why you haven't really sold yours yet. There are new phones out that people are probably going for. But I have seen some sold recently for around $250-$300 so it is possible. Try swappa and/or ebay.
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No intention to start a flame thread but an honest question. How bad is this phone? I've been trying to sell a NIB factory sealed Black version for a month now with no success. My only thought is that either I'm asking way too much, this phone is junk or the folks on craigs are idiots. I've considered listing in the market place but am more comfortable with meeting the buyer at a Sprint Store so they can verify clean ESN.
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Put it on swappa send a pm with the link and you might sell it
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Lokifish Marz said:
No intention to start a flame thread but an honest question. How bad is this phone? I've been trying to sell a NIB factory sealed Black version for a month now with no success. My only thought is that either I'm asking way too much, this phone is junk or the folks on craigs are idiots. I've considered listing in the market place but am more comfortable with meeting the buyer at a Sprint Store so they can verify clean ESN.
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Loki, I'm no stranger to you... (orig photon owners )
If you can get past the plasticy, light, and thin feeling you'll be fine. With a non-TouchWiz ROM I'm fine. I'm running CM9 with the MotoInspired theme... look a lot like the Photon now... processor is great...
WiMaxed away from my Samsung® Galaxy™ SII Epic™ 4G Touch™ SPH-D710 running the CyanogenMod9™ Alpha 5-Pre1 with the MotoInspried Theme. (I'm a sucker for a MotoUI but like this phone better.)
Awaiting my upgrade for the Sprint® Samsung® Galaxy™ S III SPH-L710 because it's the SIII and it's on an unlimited data network.
I'm not sure why your having such a hard time selling it. My guess is marketing error or your local market? I just bought my epic touch for 285 a month or two ago
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Wouldn't a better question have been, "why isn't this phone selling", rather than, "how bad is this phone" which is implying something, despite your desire not to start a flame war, which I accept as true.
deedscreen,
I've played with the GSII and it's build doesn't bother me but I'm no longer on Sprint so it was a paperweight.
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I'm not sure why your having such a hard time selling it. My guess is marketing error or your local market? I just bought my epic touch for 285 a month or two ago
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My used OG Evo sold for a better price than any offer I have received so the market here must be full of stupid. The best offer I have received was below the contract price and below what a well used iPhone 3GS sells for.
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Wouldn't a better question have been, "why isn't this phone selling", rather than, "how bad is this phone" which is implying something, despite your desire not to start a flame war, which I accept as true.
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I guess in a way you are right but I don't think that way. Unless the people in my area are complete idiots there's now logical reason why the phone wouldn't even sell when priced $200 below the off contract price. The only other conclusion is that there is something seriously wrong with the GSII. Well it looks like the area I live in is full of idiots. I wanted to meet in a Sprint Store so that a buyer couldn't say I sold them a defective/bad ESN phone.
It's all a moot point now as I pretty much gave it away. Yesterday I traded it at a local used phone store for a case and spare battery just to get rid of it. It's kind of screwed up that a used 3GS goes for more than this phone in my area.
$250 - $340 on Swappa. Here is the link. I have bought 2 phones from sellers on Swappa, Both looked new.
http://swappa.com/devices/sprint
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Anyone ever have just... an Incredibly (no pun intended) bad time with hardware?
Here I am on my 4th device in 13 months.
It started when I allowed a best buy mobile rep talk me into the moto x2.
Phone #1 had a bum USB dock that wouldn't transfer data.
X2 numero dos had a proclivity to stutter all the time...root fixed that but then the headphone jack comes loose and all is broken.
X2 #3 same as #2 for headphone jack issues.
I fought long and hard and vzw offered me a slew of 4g devices which I chose a droid charge from.
But oops, cannot change a 3g device for a 4g device on warranty so now I get to choose from a myriad of garbage moto phones (wow a droid 3 or original x!) Or an incredible 2.
Now here I am with an incredible 2.
This came after I was offered and early upgrade over Christmas which I said no to, because I was five months invested in my current phone, why should I spend another $200 five months in??
Instead I called retentions and complained loudly and I got a pre owned incredible 2.
This phone has been an absolute dream. Even stock it is faster than than the x2s dual core CPU.
But getting this device in January I was warned that I am still in the moto x2 warranty period ending July 5th.
July 6th my phone started overheating and my screen will not light up with any images,just a dull black which I can still unlock answer etc.
Yeah. Freaking July 6th.
Now it happens just having it in my pocket.when it cools down all is good again...
As a last resort today being out of warranty anyhow I took the phone apart entirely, I took the motherboard assembly off and used compressed air to blow as much as I could behind the heat sync but this is just a broken phone I suppose because after reassembly it still isn't working.
So..long story longer, I went to a corporate store and they tell me I have two options, pay $500+ for a new device or get a second line and change to share everything for $50 more per month...
Or call 611.. which I do.
They tell me that I can pay $500+ or add a line (it'd be an extra $600/year I remind him) and he says sorry.
He can offer me an early upgrade that I'm asking for in March.
I said to him gee thanks, you are not really helping me, the website tells me exactly the same thing. Derrrrr. Dumb.
Basically, i was offered an early upgrade in December by a lackwitted tier 2 tech support agent and now because I didn't have $200 for a phone I knew would be severely updated I am being shaken down for a new handset.
I'm pretty upset to be honest, as I spend over $130/month with these guys and they just won't work with me.
So the conversation ends with me saying that since att has their own 4g where I live and that makes them an option for me, let's do math:
See, previously Verizon was the only service here that worked well. now I hear that att 4g covers here quite well...
$230 to cancel Verizon early
$200 for a brand new phone on att
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$430
Vs the $569.00 for a galaxy nexus I wanted to get for $99 early upgrade.
Actually less after I get $50-$100 for spare parts on eBay for this incredible 2...
Assinine and no way to do business at all.
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So I bought this on August 7th and have had no issues with it. I plan to use it until its dead (2 or 3 more years). I love my dinc 2.
I don't see a good reason to upgrade, even if I could. The newer phones are just faster, and have better displays, NTM the short battery life and that they break in 6 months.
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stevenjcampbell said:
Anyone ever have just... an Incredibly (no pun intended) bad time with hardware?
Here I am on my 4th device in 13 months.
It started when I allowed a best buy mobile rep talk me into the moto x2.
Phone #1 had a bum USB dock that wouldn't transfer data.
X2 numero dos had a proclivity to stutter all the time...root fixed that but then the headphone jack comes loose and all is broken.
X2 #3 same as #2 for headphone jack issues.
I fought long and hard and vzw offered me a slew of 4g devices which I chose a droid charge from.
But oops, cannot change a 3g device for a 4g device on warranty so now I get to choose from a myriad of garbage moto phones (wow a droid 3 or original x!) Or an incredible 2.
Now here I am with an incredible 2.
This came after I was offered and early upgrade over Christmas which I said no to, because I was five months invested in my current phone, why should I spend another $200 five months in??
Instead I called retentions and complained loudly and I got a pre owned incredible 2.
This phone has been an absolute dream. Even stock it is faster than than the x2s dual core CPU.
But getting this device in January I was warned that I am still in the moto x2 warranty period ending July 5th.
July 6th my phone started overheating and my screen will not light up with any images,just a dull black which I can still unlock answer etc.
Yeah. Freaking July 6th.
Now it happens just having it in my pocket.when it cools down all is good again...
As a last resort today being out of warranty anyhow I took the phone apart entirely, I took the motherboard assembly off and used compressed air to blow as much as I could behind the heat sync but this is just a broken phone I suppose because after reassembly it still isn't working.
So..long story longer, I went to a corporate store and they tell me I have two options, pay $500+ for a new device or get a second line and change to share everything for $50 more per month...
Or call 611.. which I do.
They tell me that I can pay $500+ or add a line (it'd be an extra $600/year I remind him) and he says sorry.
He can offer me an early upgrade that I'm asking for in March.
I said to him gee thanks, you are not really helping me, the website tells me exactly the same thing. Derrrrr. Dumb.
Basically, i was offered an early upgrade in December by a lackwitted tier 2 tech support agent and now because I didn't have $200 for a phone I knew would be severely updated I am being shaken down for a new handset.
I'm pretty upset to be honest, as I spend over $130/month with these guys and they just won't work with me.
So the conversation ends with me saying that since att has their own 4g where I live and that makes them an option for me, let's do math:
See, previously Verizon was the only service here that worked well. now I hear that att 4g covers here quite well...
$230 to cancel Verizon early
$200 for a brand new phone on att
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$430
Vs the $569.00 for a galaxy nexus I wanted to get for $99 early upgrade.
Actually less after I get $50-$100 for spare parts on eBay for this incredible 2...
Assinine and no way to do business at all.
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Welcome to Verizon my friend, I had to literally swear at a Verizon rep to replace my 3rd Droid X2 with the Inc2 and this was after they said they didn't have any available and I called them out because they had started a promo on their website THAT SAME DAY for inc2's. I swear they train their employees to not help customers at all.
Thanks so much for the replies guys.
honestly I love the phone...I wanted a galaxy nexus, and am offering to start my co tract over again on their new terms where it isn't unlimited.
These people should be happy that they get me on another two years of my life and now get to charge me more money for service.
You all would love how I ended the call;
(After pointing out they encouraged me to cancel vs helping me)
" Well I honestly hope that for quality reasons this call was recorded and you made notes so tomorrow when I call back they can know exactly why I'm cancelling service. Thanks for having me be a part of Verizon wireless and have a great day!"
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Was the X2 really that bad of a phone?
I had to choose from the dinc 2 or the X2. I made a great choice
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i had an almost identical experience with a past phone. this is my last vzw phone. their network is ok, but i resent having to root my phone to get rid of their garbage apps, their prices are absurd, and their customer service is a nightmare. im switching to a gsm iphone and going prepaid.
joefrog1996 said:
Was the X2 really that bad of a phone?
I had to choose from the dinc 2 or the X2. I made a great choice
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The x2 had major memory management issues for all of the 2.2 releases. It would not stream music, or play any music for that matter without skips, crackles, hiccups and pops.
The tegra 2 had NOTHING to do with it, aside from some pretty looking games (that always get ported to other devices) it would not use the second core anyhow as android 2.2 and 2.3 as far as i know do not use multi core cpus efficiently.
the hardware issues killed me. The headphone jack coming unsoldered TWICE is a poor build quality.
I've no idea if Google intends to put their name on a product that Moto makes after purchasing the mobility department but they should think twice because the ONLY phone i have read good reviews on is the Aria HD and thats one phone out of what... four years worth of handsets?
funky_snowman
i had an almost identical experience with a past phone. this is my last vzw phone. its ok, but i resent having to root my phone to get rid of their garbage apps, their prices are absurd, and their customer service is a nightmare. im switching to a gsm iphone and going prepaid.
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My problem is that I live in a largely rural area, but a town of around 20,000 that is covered by whatever Reno has.
If reno NV has LTE, we have it. If they have 3g, we have it.
But in lake tahoe you cannot build a new cellular tower due to environmental concerns, therefore you work with what you have.
Verizon has a great deal with the casinos in the area and therefore has coverage EVERYWHERE.
Like i said, i was TOLD that att and their LTE is much better than their 3g was, but i know for a fact people around here on ATT hate it.
Tmobile is a joke and works only on main drags of streets, and sprint is about as bad as Tmobile.
So as all the new networks come online they cannot build new towers here, just work with what they got. The broader spectrum of LTE seems to help the signal for ATT, and the coverage VZW has due to being the first provider gives them the best network over all.
Sucks... but yea.
Had 4 Droid x2s before my incredible2. Music always popped and phone would reboot randomly all the time. So glad I pushed Verizon until they gave me this phone. The problems it has are very little when compared to x2.
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Yea the X2 had amazing potential but in the end it failed, locked boot loader, couldn't play music for sh*t, the 2nd core wasn't utilized very well, low graphic memory, etc, etc
That sucks man. I would look more into ATT if I were you. If it seems like the people you know have just as bad of experiences with them then i would just keep calling VZW until they offer you something better. I usually use a line like "I've been dealing with this issue for x amount of time and nobody that I have spoken with has even acknowledged the problems that I have already gone through! What can you do to make me feel like I should stay with your company?" Don't waste your breath on the regular care reps, the can't do much for you. Talk to loyalty/retentions. That line got me $400 worth of free products and movie channels when dish network lost amc and has worked on many other occasions. Shift the focus to all of the problems you have had with your phones and the fact that you don't feel like a valued customer instead of focussing just on the phone you have now.
Best of luck man. I hope this helps!
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I don't think you have bad luck...I have replaced quite a few devices myself and never abuse them.
I do buy the insurance though thru vzw because I live in Vegas. It gets hot here and puts stress on the phones. I also change my synthetic oil every 5k instead of 8k because of the weather.
The good news is that if you want to stay on vzw you can buy on Craigslist to save a bit of money. Eventually when I feel there is a more solid phone I will do this (the latest phone has never been important to me)
Verizon has been terrible as of late. Another one of my family lines also has insurance and I don't even want to begin with the last issue i had with that claim.
In Vegas we have shops that can actually fix phones for you...have you considered this route?
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I've been pretty fortunate, going from a D1 (that is still working - gave it to a friend in need) to the Inc2, and (knock on wood) have had no issues.
tincbtrar said:
I don't think you have bad luck...I have replaced quite a few devices myself and never abuse them.
I do buy the insurance though thru vzw because I live in Vegas. It gets hot here and puts stress on the phones. I also change my synthetic oil every 5k instead of 8k because of the weather.
The good news is that if you want to stay on vzw you can buy on Craigslist to save a bit of money. Eventually when I feel there is a more solid phone I will do this (the latest phone has never been important to me)
Verizon has been terrible as of late. Another one of my family lines also has insurance and I don't even want to begin with the last issue i had with that claim.
In Vegas we have shops that can actually fix phones for you...have you considered this route?
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Yes and no... I can't be without the handset and have no other phone.
I remember Vegas. Cellular depot on sahara was great for fixing phones.
Yeah, I'm in lake Tahoe now. There aren't any repair shops here so sending out is what happens.
If this was an att phone popping a sim out would be easy.
Perhaps a trip to reno would find me a repair person... in the past I'd spend hours with the company arguing my point. Now I don't have time between work and family.
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if anyone is still looking
So here are the end results.
1. Verizon did offer me an early upgrade last november or december.
-- And now because they "lost too much money" they have decided to stop early upgrades for users. So basically I am screwed in this regard. I found it laughable and even told the rep how Verizon posted over a BILLION DOLLAR PROFIT recently, she seemed like she had no idea what that even meant.
2. Even retentions is not willing to work with me on this. The circumstances are not allowing for it, according to the rep I spoke to (pretty much his exact wording)
3. They are offering this:
OPTION #1 - Get a certified pre owned device for $329 (this would be a motorola razr or less money would give me a bunch of garbage options)
OPTION #2 - Add a line, and this will give me the ability to get a new phone as a new contract phone. But of course adds about $600/year to my contract
OPTION #3 - Buy a new device off the internet, beware of stolen phones, apparently verizon keeps a blacklist of stolen devices.
OPTION #4 - Spend the $500+ on a new device from VZW new retail in box.
I am so frustrated. Guess that i am screwed. They dont care.
id probably leave verizon in your situation. though, id leave anyway, so maybe that suggestion is a little bit slanted.
if you aren't going to leave, id try to find something on ebay.
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OPTION #3 - Buy a new device off the internet, beware of stolen phones, apparently verizon keeps a blacklist of stolen devices.
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Yeah anytime a phone is reported lost or stolen the esn is blacklisted. If you buy one local (like Craigslist) make the person meet you at a VZW store so you can have them check the esn before you pay for it. If you buy one online make sure the place you buy it from is reputable and has some buyer protection built in.
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cstone1991 said:
Yeah anytime a phone is reported lost or stolen the esn is blacklisted. If you buy one local (like Craigslist) make the person meet you at a VZW store so you can have them check the esn before you pay for it. If you buy one online make sure the place you buy it from is reputable and has some buyer protection built in.
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I didn't know this. I'm glad I haven't bought one off eBay yet. That's got the potential for bad day.
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SuFuS01dier said:
I didn't know this. I'm glad I haven't bought one off eBay yet. That's got the potential for bad day.
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If you do buy from eBay just make sure that you buy it from someone with a lot of good feedback and ask lots of questions.
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cstone1991 said:
If you do buy from eBay just make sure that you buy it from someone with a lot of good feedback and ask lots of questions.
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I'll definitely be wary, but I'm satisfied with my phone for now. That might change by tomorrow though as I often feel the need for change
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SuFuS01dier said:
I'll definitely be wary, but I'm satisfied with my phone for now. That might change by tomorrow though as I often feel the need for change
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Don't buy a phone that doesn't list the status of the esn. Just leaving that out is grounds for suspicion.
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http://www.squaretrade.com/best-buy-smartphone-warranty
They have better rates than bestbuy and sprint, and a lower deductible..has anyone heard of this company before? I'm like 4 days into having my note 4 and kinda thinking about insurance. bestbuy decided to impliment a protection plan identical to sprints. :/
No. But you have got me interested. Im going to call them this week and get some more info. 11 bucks a month for sprints insurance, its half the cost. One thing about insurion (or what ever their name is), i know for a fact they pay claims. Ive used them once when I dropped my droid razr maxx hd in my coffee. Had a new phone in 2 days. Not sure how reliable this one is. But Im definitely interested in knowing more. One thing that is a red flag is it has Sprints deductible at 200 bucks. Mine is 100 bucks, or at least it used to be.
Let me know what you find out. Ill do the same after I call them.
Thanks for the info. Good to know there is some competition for mobile device insurance.
AS FOR ME.....GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH
Unfortunately with the premium phones the deductible is $200 and $300 if you lose the phone. I will be looking into this tomorrow also.
I would read the reviews on Amazon, I was all for buying through square trade... Now I am rethinking it
I actually use to sell Square Trade and use them for all my electronics (except phones because I haven't broken one yet). If you read the comments you'll see that they're 5 star rated on Amazon and have an A+ rating with the BBB as well as numerous awards for customer service. They're totally worth it though I'm not familiar with their phone policies, I only TV, computer, and tablet warranties.
I do know that if you intend on keeping the phone for the full two years you can just buy the insurance instead of doing monthly installments. In the end it saves you around 50% give or take.
If you want more info call them or go in to a TigerDirect, they sell them there. You can get a device anywhere and buy the Square Trade at Tiger, just make sure to tell them you saw the online price and it was cheaper, it'll knock down the price.
Squaretrade is about the same as any warranty, customer service is ok, once you speak to a supervisor. Most lower reps don't know what they are talking about, when my note 3 screen cracked they replaced it with a new phone from amazon, but I was told that was a one time deal. Otherwise it is "gently used" or open box items. I paid 89 for two years with them, but I am also paying 13 a month with sprint and will probably stick with sprint unless Squaretrade does that again. Only recommend them if you don't want to shell out a monthly payment with sprint
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Have we found out anything else regarding squaretrade? I haven't had a chance to call them at all but I'm thinking of just going with best buys insurance, even if the deductible is crazy high. ..
I have SquareTrade on both of my tablets but fortunately I never used the policy... I would insure my phone with them but they don't cover theft or loss like Sprint does.
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Come on guys, Google is your friend! Squaretrade is either $5 a month or $99 for two years. They don't cover loss or theft and their deductible is $75. Across the board they're more affordable than everyone else. You can also get it on any device at any time, you just have to prove it's working I guess.
http://www.squaretrade.com/smartphone-warranty
I am interested in switching to square trade but other than theft coverage Sprint's tep has one other benefit. There have been times where I go to a Sprint store for an issue, like my wifi radio not working anymore or something else. They have replaced it for free. Sometimes with a new device.
It looks like with square trade it's cheaper but you get a refurbished or used device.
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I am interested in switching to square trade but other than theft coverage Sprint's tep has one other benefit. There have been times where I go to a Sprint store for an issue, like my wifi radio not working anymore or something else. They have replaced it for free. Sometimes with a new device.
It looks like with square trade it's cheaper but you get a refurbished or used device.
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Sprint TEP will replace with used/refurbished phone also. It even states that in the fine print. It even says they can replace with different device of equal value.
I've used squaretrade for years, they're a good route to take, but as with any contract, be sure to read the terms and understand what you're reading.
Patch7 said:
Sprint TEP will replace with used/refurbished phone also. It even states that in the fine print. It even says they can replace with different device of equal value.
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Yep I know. That's why I said "some times with a new device".