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Contacts / Edit before dialing a phone number

Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter

I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.

My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter

Try if this works
http://www.handango.com/Platform ... sp?productId=152403

Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)

here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong

Dumbest shortcut ever, how to disable?

I'm not sure if it's only me, or everyone.
I have a Rogers s621 running on the brightpoint rom. If you start typing a contacts name from the homescreen and it starts with a letter that's within the keypad (w,e,r,s,d,f,x,c,v); and the 2nd letter is a(#).
The shortcut asks you if you want to dial that entry number from your contacts.
FOR EXAMPLE
You want to call your friend Darryl. From the homescreen you punch in D(5), A(#). Your phone will then ask you if you want to call the 5th entry in your phonebook and you have to say NO before you can continue typing darryl's name.
Maybe it's only me I don't know.

PorX said:
I'm not sure if it's only me, or everyone.
I have a Rogers s621 running on the brightpoint rom. If you start typing a contacts name from the homescreen and it starts with a letter that's within the keypad (w,e,r,s,d,f,x,c,v); and the 2nd letter is a(#).
The shortcut asks you if you want to dial that entry number from your contacts.
FOR EXAMPLE
You want to call your friend Darryl. From the homescreen you punch in D(5), A(#). Your phone will then ask you if you want to call the 5th entry in your phonebook and you have to say NO before you can continue typing darryl's name.
Maybe it's only me I don't know.
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My stock with a few apps loaded Rogers 6 rom does not have that behavior.

strange, i guess it's either a bug or one of the many 3rd party apps that's controlling it.

the HTC ROM doesn't have this shortcut.
It's so dumb.

I have the new HTC rom and it does this. It's very annoying.

solution !
when this happens, it means that you have field number 5 of your sim card filled with darel's phone number.
so by field number on the sim car you can dial :
"1#" for the first number
"2#" for the second number
"3#" for the third
"49#" for the 49th number......
....
what you have to do is to copy the sim directory to the phone then you erase the sim contact list.
the you'll be able to dial darel number easyly.
Last solution : learn the begining of darel phone number, start hiting the number, you'll find the name.
sorry for my english.
Oumar

oumarous said:
when this happens, it means that you have field number 5 of your sim card filled with darel's phone number.
so by field number on the sim car you can dial :
"1#" for the first number
"2#" for the second number
"3#" for the third
"49#" for the 49th number......
....
what you have to do is to copy the sim directory to the phone then you erase the sim contact list.
the you'll be able to dial darel number easyly.
Last solution : learn the begining of darel phone number, start hiting the number, you'll find the name.
sorry for my english.
Oumar
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I never thought of that. Guess I'm gonna erase the sim. Thanks again.

You could also try not erasing the sim, but copying contacts to the phone, then disabling the sim phonebook in settings>phone>call options. This way the sim is still backed up with all your numbers if the problem is resolved without erasing.

bigteribletexas said:
You could also try not erasing the sim, but copying contacts to the phone, then disabling the sim phonebook in settings>phone>call options. This way the sim is still backed up with all your numbers if the problem is resolved without erasing.
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Tried that before i posted this thread, didn't work.
Deleted the sim contacts and everything's good now.
The weirdest thing is that this shortcut isn't even documented anywhere in the original htc manuals.

All incoming calls are unknown

Hi, after upgrading my Rhodium to http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=629&news_id=219 all incoming calls are unknown, even the ones the have Called ID disabled. I have checked many of my contacts and they all say they do not have it blocked.
Bit lost here. Any ideas?

Had the same problem on my TP2.
After some randomly trying, i figured out how to solve it, it's pretty easy (at least for me...)
I just had to change all my phonenumbers starting with a 0 to +49 (Germany in my case, so you have to change it to your country then...)
For example:
0151xxxxxxxxxx
to
+49151xxxxxxxxxx
That does the trick, and there should be no more unknown callers
Hopefully helped you out

I had a similar problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548420
My TP2 would recognise my contacts if I wanted to send a sms / make a call but nothing incoming.
The solution I found that worked for me was to go to each contact - edit - do nothing - done.
After that it now works fine, although going through over 300 contacts like that almost sent me insane
I'd try on one first before going to all that effort

I once had the problem with contacts being saved wrongly. I used to have all contacts as:
+31..... (europe - the netherlands ... phone number)
but I had to change that into:
0031....
For some reason the + wasn't recognized well.

Oh my god...1000 contacts or so, all +31 :-( Stupid HTC
Thanks guys ...

Before you start editing hundreds of numbers:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/...s/thread/747a9ca3-e27b-4b43-bef1-c1cf532ad692
I had to change to 6 numbers for the really short numbers.
Most of my numbers are informat +countrycode_operatorcode_phonenumber (without the underscorse, of course).

problem wid htc wildfire
all incoming calls on my htc wildfire are being shown as "unknown". even the saved contacts. i'm a mess...even tried restarting the phone but nothing works. please help(m from india)

Receiving sms after a missed call

so on my previous phones, when i was out of area service(no signal) and someone called during that, i received(after gain signal) a message with lost call and their phone number.
it is possible on wildfire?
thanks in advance

I dunno about doing that phone-wise, but my carrier has the option for me to receive those

gogusteliade said:
so on my previous phones, when i was out of area service(no signal) and someone called during that, i received(after gain signal) a message with lost call and their phone number.
it is possible on wildfire?
thanks in advance
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I'm pretty sure that this is a service of your carrier, so you should be able to use it on any phone.

i had the same carrier on my previous phones, so i think it's wildfire here
if i remember correctly, on nokia 5800 was a setting in sms menu, but on wildfire i can't find it.

Check whether you are still subscribed to it. They send it as a normal SMS, so I am sure it should work on any phone. It's a paid service here (Obviously, it was free before) and you have to separately subscribe to it.

thanks, but I'm very sure that i haven't unsubscribed to this or any service since i got my wildfire or before that.

Call your service provider and badger them. (lol) Alternatively, if you are sure this is a Wildfire thing, use your own SIM card on another phone and check there whether it works.

That feature is called "MISSED CALL ALERTS" and in no way it is related to wildfire. And i don't see a point which says that it won't work on wildfire. It is just like receiving text message (lol).
It is entirely a service provider thing. Ask your service provider for MISSED CALL ALERTS (MCA).
And sometimes there will be network related issues so that MCA will be activated automatically without charging (happened to me once). And sometimes they will be automatically activated by deducting balance from our mobile and we being unaware of that. This was the worst thing i face with service providers, they activate the things automatically deducting balance (like caller tunes).
And can u tell the option present in nokia 5800 setting. IM ALMOST SURE THAT THIS OPTION IS NOT PRESENT IN MESSAGING APP. BUT, IF IM CORRECT U MUST HAVE SEEN IT IN "SIM TOOLKIT" APP WHICH IS A NETWORK RELATED THING AGAIN.
Check the "Sim Toolkit" (or some other name i don't know what ur carrier names it) app on wildfire and verify whether u see it there.

[Q] Problem with people / contacts

Hi! My mom just bought a HTC Wildire S and she is very happy with it but she is having one problem with it. All her contacts are saved on her google account and linked to facebook. But when some contact calls the phone always shows Unknown.
I think the problem is that all her contacts are saved with "+354" in front of the phonenumber but when the contact calls it doesnt display the "+354" part, just the phone number. I have an Desire and my contacts are set up in the same way and work perfectly. Any ideas how I can fix this?

Its a common error. I have it on my wildfire s too. Think the problem started from android 2.3 but it happens in certain countries only. This is what HTC support told me.. The solution is either add a number twice for the same contact. Once with the country code and other one without.
You may also get a software called prefixer from the market. it will add the country code to incoming calls and the contact name will show after proper configuration.