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I am a noob to these forums and this seemed the best place to ask considering it is a Q&A forum. Considering the G2 is a stock android device how hard would it be to make a stock gingerbread ROM for it? Are any devs out there working on it? Is teamdouche working on CM v7 based on 2.3? I have been looking around for any inclination of this but have seen none whilst other devices get gingerbread ported over/compiled for them. Just want to know the status (or hopefully an ETA) on a Gingerbread ROM for the G2. If I posted this in the wrong place or this has been posted before my apologies.
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I don't know if it's out yet, mang... but I'm sure that once it is, it'll be a hot commodity. The modding community is absolutely amazing and I think they seriously need to be hired by some of the mobile companies out there. Their work is fantastic.
well nobody can make a rom or anything until the source code is released...and that hasnt happend yet. as soon as the nexus s comes out (which is this week) then the source code will be extracted from gingerbread and itll be able to be used. right now we just had a SDK file, and that really isnt used for anything but looks. mainly used for themes and such.
Then why does the EVO have a full working ROM for gingerbread? I believe the DESIRE and the HD2 also have it going.
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There isn't a working gingerbread ROM for the EVO, it's just FroYo with some parts ripped from 2.3. Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days along with the Nexus S, after which the AOSP will be ported to existing devices - but it'll still be a few days, if not weeks until something stable comes out.
I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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My apologies for my ignorance. I thought they were actual 2.3 builds considering the XDA posted list says "devices running gingerbread". So absolutly nothing can happen with gingerbread until a device with gingerbread (nexus S) comes out?
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Is that an actual statement from teamdouche/cyanogen or just from studying release behavior in the past? When you say release you mean T-mo pushes it as an OTA correct, I know someone on here will "release" 2.3 long before T-mo stamps it for approval.
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Not a problem, you were just asking
All we have running Gingerbread right now is the android emulator, from which we can pull apk's and libs, but most of them need tweaking to get them to work on FroYo. Plus I don't know if the market works on Gingerbread.
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So at the moment there is no actual gingerbread (save for the reveiw models floating around phonedog,mobileburn,etc are unboxing) out just froyo with the modified characteristics of gingerbread? Pardon the question if it seems silly, most of the comment went over my head.
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I'll bet we have a ported ROM before New Years, usually a huge release like this gets all the attention of the devs. Especially since with perm-root, s-off and several stable 2.2 ROMs, the devs don't have all that much to work on atm.
Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Team Villain were working on one, but it became clear that there was going to be no way to make Audio work until AOSP is out so its on hold until then.
and without audio a phone is useless, no ringing, no sound in calls, no music etc etc
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Definatley looking forward to it when Villain gets their hands on the source code. I bet T-mo's is going to be ladened with the same bloatware that their 2.2 install on the G2 had.
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Well atleast we have the themes for now, that will hold me over for a couple weeks but not to impressed by the nexus s enough to shell out $520 I might just buy vibrant when functional gingerbread port is out allot cheaper and almost same phone well close anyway.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Anyone know roughly how long it takes google to drop the source in aosp after the sdk is released?
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Cyanogen will not port it to the G2until 2.3 is released for the G2.
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Highly doubt that's true. I came from a CDMA Hero running CM6 RC1 (Froyo) and as most of us know, the lower end devices (such as the Hero), never got an official 2.2, yet there was a fully functional, highly stable CM6 out for it.
Which ran magnificently BTW.
Ah yeah, those seem to be more like proof of concept. Once a retail version of handsets start coming out with Gingerbread, as well as the source code, I imagine we'll start seeing custom ROMs based off it.
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Honestly I would wait if your shelling out any money for anything samsung just placed a MASSIVE order for tegra 2's today which hints at dualcore phones sometime in q1 or Q2 next year hopefully. Wait for the qualcomm dualcore and nvidia dualcore wars to begin.
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Thats all i needed to hear...samsung should'nt getanybody money with their softaware build qaulity and support
Gingerbread doesn't seem to be very promising though, what's with all this hype around it?? The update seems pretty piss poor to be honest. Nothing much.
Does anyone think or know if htc will roll out an update for the G2 to get android 2.4. As we already know it we will be getting android 2.3 gingerbread sooner than we think
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-and-htc-tease-g2-gingerbread/
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Barely getting 2.3 and you are asking about 2.4? Have they even announced 2.4...
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Barely getting 2.3 and you are asking about 2.4? Have they even announced 2.4...
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Barely, 2.3 is here and we will get it, and I think about the future so I ask if we will get 2.4
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Barely, 2.3 is here and we will get it, and I think about the future so I ask if we will get 2.4
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Yes if our hardware can run icecream, if not no.
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Yes if our hardware can run icecream, if not no.
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Yea maybe it will be for high end 3D devices only to enhance 3D experience, and G2 is not 3D, like evo 3D, G2x, and the 3D devices to come
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Yea maybe it will be for high end 3D devices only to enhance 3D experience, and G2 is not 3D, like evo 3D, G2x, and the 3D devices to come
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Ehh, I expect the nexus s will be able to handle it, but it will most likely be geared towards dual core devices. We'll get it, if not htc than from Cyanogen.
But I wouldn't worry about this for a nice long while.
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Barely getting 2.3 and you are asking about 2.4? Have they even announced 2.4...
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Google announced 2.4 at Google I/O 2011 the other day, but didn't say that 2.4 was Ice Cream. I think 2.4 is just an updated Gingerbread, sort of like 2.0 to 2.1 was still Eclair, and 3.0 to 3.1 is still Honeycomb. I have a feeling Ice Cream will be something more like 3.2 or higher, since it's supposed to be the fusion of Honeycomb and Gingerbread and cover all devices.
That being said, I'm hopeful that Google will cover us with the update, since HTC is one of their 18 partners that promises to give quick OS updates within 18 months of the device releasing, of which the end of this year still would cover us.
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Does anyone think or know if htc will roll out an update for the G2 to get android 2.4. As we already know it we will be getting android 2.3 gingerbread sooner than we think
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-and-htc-tease-g2-gingerbread/
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Most refs on the 'net state the next version's number to be 3.4. They certainly won't be naming is 2.4 since 2.4<3.0. You simply don't go backwards in versioning.
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Google announced 2.4 at Google I/O 2011 the other day, but didn't say that 2.4 was Ice Cream. I think 2.4 is just an updated Gingerbread, sort of like 2.0 to 2.1 was still Eclair, and 3.0 to 3.1 is still Honeycomb. I have a feeling Ice Cream will be something more like 3.2 or higher, since it's supposed to be the fusion of Honeycomb and Gingerbread and cover all devices.
That being said, I'm hopeful that Google will cover us with the update, since HTC is one of their 18 partners that promises to give quick OS updates within 18 months of the device releasing, of which the end of this year still would cover us.
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Yeah, Google will announce the updates. What about the carriers and manufacturers who like to skin their Android builds with buggy-at-best themes like Sense and Blur?
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Yeah, Google will announce the updates. What about the carriers and manufacturers who like to skin their Android builds with buggy-at-best themes like Sense and Blur?
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To elaborate a little more on what Gawantu said, at io, Google said they partnered with the manufacturers and carriers, including HTC and Motorola, to bring out updates for up to 18 months after a device is released. But how quickly hasn't been said.
Honestly though, if it took the CM team just 4 months to bring CM7 stable to 20 something devices including a couple tablets, with different hardware, while doing it in their spare time all the while having to reverse engineer and hack their way through it. It shouldn't take any longer for the professional developers at say, HTC, to bring an update to a few that are similarly spec'd and have all the resources to do so even while making a new version of Sense.
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Most refs on the 'net state the next version's number to be 3.4. They certainly won't be naming is 2.4 since 2.4<3.0. You simply don't go backwards in versioning.
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As far as i can read they will be releasing ice cream sandwich as android 4.0
Seeing as this version of android is being developed for both smartphones and tablets.
Here check this out. Everybody is labeling it Android 4.0
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-everything-you-need-to-know-954464
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As far as i can read they will be releasing ice cream sandwich as android 4.0
Seeing as this version of android is being developed for both smartphones and tablets.
Here check this out. Everybody is labeling it Android 4.0
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-everything-you-need-to-know-954464
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The post you're quoting is from several months ago.
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The post you're quoting is from several months ago.
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But, yes Ice Cream Sandwich is v. 4.0
martonikaj said:
The post you're quoting is from several months ago.
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I know the post is from a few months ago
But still information is correct just do a search on android ice cream sandwhich and you will see that they are labeling it 4.0
So now that we have that super important technicality out of the way, any speculation as to whether or not we'll see ICS as an OTA update? I'm hesitant to assume that we will. I think CM8 is our best hope. Or CMwhatever.
CM9, lol
but HTC is really debating on relasing or not because of something to do with sense and they want to figure out which direction today... best bet is going to have to wait for CM9 like all of us are doing so impatiently haha
I wrote a letter to HTC months ago asking the future upgrade
they didnt give me clear answer
Seems to me that DZ will not get further upgrade
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So now that we have that super important technicality out of the way, any speculation as to whether or not we'll see ICS as an OTA update? I'm hesitant to assume that we will. I think CM8 is our best hope. Or CMwhatever.[/QUOT
From my understanding HTC will only be releasing ICS for 1ghz+ and duel core devices. But seeing as our DZ is capable of 2ghz+ someone should be able to get it working
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nickeedoo said:
So now that we have that super important technicality out of the way, any speculation as to whether or not we'll see ICS as an OTA update? I'm hesitant to assume that we will. I think CM8 is our best hope. Or CMwhatever.[/QUOT
From my understanding HTC will only be releasing ICS for 1ghz+ and duel core devices. But seeing as our DZ is capable of 2ghz+ someone should be able to get it working
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Hey as soon as google releases the ics source code
Cyanogenmod is going to start making cyanogenmod 9
Stewie just said that!
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HTC hasn't stated any restrictions for the upgrade, but they are a business. The G2 wasn't a huge hit (not sure about the Desire Z), and we have already seen a major upgrade for our device. Do the math guys.
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would it be possible for Inc to have an update of Ice Cream Sandwich?
if not, porting it would be possible right?
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would it be possible for Inc to have an update of Ice Cream Sandwich?
if not, porting it would be possible right?
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It's possible, and someday it might happen on CM, but I'd be concerned how slow it would crawl along. God forbid HTC add an equally modern version of Sense to it!
ICS won't have steep hardware requirements for the vanilla version. We "should" get a version from Cyanogen. However, we can pretty much rule out an update from HTC. This phone started at 2.1, saw 2.2, and is now getting 2.3.4. I think HTC will expect users of the Incredible to upgrade their phone for the next update.
I'd like to see if the Nexus One gets it. Since it has similar hardware to the Incredible.
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I'd like to see if the Nexus One gets it. Since it has similar hardware to the Incredible.
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Agreed if the Nexus One gets its possible that the Incredible can run it as well. However I'm fairly sure you won't see an official release.
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Agreed if the Nexus One gets its possible that the Incredible can run it as well. However I'm fairly sure you won't see an official release.
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The Incredible can run it. Google isn't about to stop supporting low end phones as they release, and the first-gen Snapdragon will still be above these. Vanilla Android will run fine.
You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans
desire is NOT getting ICS update !
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desire is NOT getting ICS update !
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Well, no surprise there, since they had huge troubles updating it to 2.3
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You can read the full statement from HTC below.
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans
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Huh?
It will be great if Desire receives ICS but I doubt because of marketing reasons. The guys from HTC want to sell their new phones to old customers as well as new ones so the old Desire won't get an ICS update, as it didn't get an Gingerbread one (with new Sense).
Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
If HTC nurture the customers that have had a good experience with the desire (I'm one of them) perhaps they won't be lured off to samsung, motorolla, lg, huwai, nokia etc come end of contract.
I reckon if they could do it with sense they would.
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Yeah, but I think there's a bit of good will at stake too. Many people are on contract with months left and aren't willing to shell fora new device just yet.
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Then you either spit moar dough when you buy it to get shorter contract, or you take a two year, and then don't whine every second about it. I won't even mention shelling two year contract in early 2011. and similar silly moves.
I think some of you are forgetting the Gingerbread update saga.
After several announcements and retractions from HTC only an unsupported developer build was released.
ICS will only ever be a custom build from the dev community.
Fingers crossed for CM9, hardware permitting
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Desire isn't a recent device anymore
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Desire was never a recent device in the first place.
If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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If HTC could release ICS loaded with their sense experience, while leaving room in the rom for carrier apps they would. Perhaps it's naive of me, but there you have it.
Problem isn't the age, or the cpu, or even wanting to force you into a newer phone. It's the limited memory with which to drive a relatively high pixel count on the screen and a version of software that probably wasn't even dreamt of when the desire was getting her specs.
The development community will possibly be able to shoehorn ICS on, without sense, but htc is saying they don't have time to bother with that level of customisation for an older device. If it were simple they'd do it.
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So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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So theoretically you are saying that phones such as Desire HD will get it as it is able to fit Sense and ICS in? Highly improbable.
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Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD
If im going to buy a new phone im getting Samsung anyway
Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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Actually, the desire HD should run ics and sense really well, cuz sensation XL is just a overclocked desire HD
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Yes it probably will. The problem remains on whether HTC will bother to update it. After all, its 15 months old.
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Desire will not get ICS update...
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Samsung do the same for galacxy S so....
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And Sony-Ericsson, and Motorola, and LG,...
Htc needs to learn something from the xda developers they look so inmature even android 2.3 was a big problem
HTC's making money out of selling phones. The End.
Not from supporting new shinny flagship os's for "Mezozoic" phones.
Look at Apple, they support almost all new os's for deprecated phones but with small feature set and performance penalty.
Is that what you want?
When Android Jelly Bean will appear ,Galaxy Gio will receive an update?
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Not an official one, we don't even have ICS
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yes, definitely
i want to ask for an official update to Android Jelly Bean, because I read that many phones will receive updates
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Who really knows? But we don't know requirements, so we can't predict it
the rumoured jellybean wasnt even release yet, hell the name jellybean itself its just still a rumour.
i think u might mistaken it with current ice cream sandwitch.
and no, before u ask, theres no official ics for gio, and probably wont be available either.
but in case u really did mean to ask about the still-just-rumour next android, i can just facepalmed.
i saw a video with this version of android and i saw s galaxy y with a image of jelly bean
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=WFuR1BFVLjs&v=WFuR1BFVLjs&gl=US
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Just a lwp mate jelly bean is still not public
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now i know to talk about android ics. I saw the requirements for ics and gio should have an official update
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now i know to talk about android ics. I saw the requirements for ics and gio should have an official update
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Galaxy s plus doesnt even get it, and HTC tab flyer doesnt even get it, requirement for HTC is 500 mb ram,
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Had a chat with support of Samsung.Looks like Samsung just don't give a froyo about anyone who uses Gio,Young or something like that.We won't be getting this update from the official source,I suppose.
p.s. i think some devs will definitely bring this to us.XDA shall save the day once again
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Had a chat with support of Samsung.Looks like Samsung just don't give a froyo about anyone who uses Gio,Young or something like that.We won't be getting this update from the official source,I suppose.
p.s. i think some devs will definitely bring this to us.XDA shall save the day once again
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sure sure, let's get our hands on ICS first, as even the name of 'jelly bean' isn't official, however there was something with those on a GOOGLE announcement, and it is said to divide the tablets and phones again..
someone says that J requirement is less then I ?
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someone says that J requirement is less then I ?
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I just want to know for us non-devs:
What the hay does that mean?
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I just want to know for us non-devs:
What the hay does that mean?
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I think he meant to say that jelly bean requires less than ICS.
Dont knowif this is true. Why would they?
And samsung is not going to update a low end device wich is a year old
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The name Jelly Bean is official and google will unveil it in late June or early July...
devices with Jelly Bean will start to roll out by the end of the year..and yes..
we still do not have a proper ICS build jelly bean is too long a shot...
I've got some news:
Google tries to fix their fault - Android fragmentation. As you know, Google gave tablets Android 3.0, which smartphones didn't get. It was big mistake. Now Google fixes it by giving new Android with HUGE requirements. So, nope, probably we won't get this version...
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I've got some news:
Google tries to fix their fault - Android fragmentation. As you know, Google gave tablets Android 3.0, which smartphones didn't get. It was big mistake. Now Google fixes it by giving new Android with HUGE requirements. So, nope, probably we won't get this version...
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Bad news
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I've got some news:
Google tries to fix their fault - Android fragmentation. As you know, Google gave tablets Android 3.0, which smartphones didn't get. It was big mistake. Now Google fixes it by giving new Android with HUGE requirements. So, nope, probably we won't get this version...
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HUGE requirements will continue the fragmentation.
Devices like the desire hd or similar, wich gets ics, but will be stuck on 4.0.
About 30% will be stuck on GB because of the grow of android this year, but will be smaller, as most new devices launch with ics.
And so on.
Updating should be like IOS, when an ipad 1 or iphone 3gs is still upgradeable to ios 5.1.1, wich has been released 2 weeks ago.
These are limited in the app store, but who cares?
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That's the difference between a monopolized environment and a liberal one. Monopoly is easier to control, predict and dictate. But don't be as naive as to think apple doesn't turn obsolete old equipment with their OS upgrades. The timeline is just much more dilated than those of the less controled environments.