Although I am tempted by Cyanogen, I was reading through their forum about one or two issues so am still a little unsure about it.
Can I just ask a couple of things:
1) What are the general advantages of cyanogen over stock firmware? i.e. what extra features if any and do you lose any functions?
2) How easy is it to upgrade my rooted T-Mobile wildfire to a stock unbranded version of 2.2 without losing root and keep the ability to revert back to branded stock firmware (including the bootloader) for warranty purposes if needed?
Many thanks in advance
Hey,
Some advantages are: overclocking, more work memory (i had about 90-110 memory on stock froyo, about 170-190 with CM now), all the useless slow apps running in sense are gone, general smoother feel, live wallpapers, being able to install themes to make your UI a bit nicer, ...
You can re-install the stock sense ROM afterwards if you want (although I doubt you will want to, most people like the improvement after a custom ROM ). And as far as I know, when you use the revolutionary tool ( http://revolutionary.io/ ) to S-off, you can revert that and get the original bootloader back for warranty issues. However I have not done this myself, but I recall reading it here (others, correct me if i'm wrong ) *edit* http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
Many thanks Wolfway
Cyanogen sounds great from what you say - have you had any issues with the stock browser on it? I must admit I have tried dolphin/skyfire/opera etc but tend to like the stock one the most generally?
Also, I know you have to install the Google apps separately but can you install them individually afterwards as I think I'd only use GMail, Maps and Market (are there any others? I don't use many other stock apps than those). I know you can get Maps as an apk and Gmail was on the market I think?
Or is it just easier to install the Google Apps zip file from Cyanogen?
As long as I can go back to a stock firmware and can just try it then I can see no harm in at least giving it a try...
Just one other thing about the Revolutionary, does reverting it to S-On also take off the 'Revolutionary' line in the Boot loader so there's no evidence of the S-Off having taken place?
About the restore, I cannot help you as I have not tried nor did I read topics about that, I suggest you go ask in the specific topics
You have to flash google apps (you can find the correct files on the cyanogenmod wiki's). You cannot download the apps from the market as the market is included in the google apps file to flash... when you boot after installing the google apps it asks you which to download however. Maps, chrome to phone, ... so if you do not want one it will not install.
And I actually have never used the brower on stoyo froyo or cyanogenmod 7. I use opera mini, but do not browse often on the internet, I mainly use apps for the stuff I need
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Hi guys,
This is a very nooby question, but i was wondering exactly what benefit do i get for rooting my desire. Is rooting only required to install newer roms?
Also, if i were to simply root the desire would i lose any functionality such as bluetooth not working or wifi not working or the LEDs working?
I'm thinking of following the following guides for rooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672770
But before I do that, I just wanted to know what exactly is the point of rooting. any comments would be appreciated
Some benefits are:
Flashing Custom Roms
Marked Enabler ( If you cant get payed apps in your country )
You can Customize your phone a bit more
Flaws :
You loose your warranty...
Yea thats what i was wondering too.
I guess I wont root my phone for a bit, until the 2.2 roms are more stable, because i can already search for paid apps
thanks for the response
Even more nooby question.. what is this flashing custom ROM?
yea.. im new
Flashing ROMS enables you to customise the phone. On the ROM i installed i did not put facebook, twitter, friendstream, quick office and many other apps that come with the phone as i dont use them.
The main reason why i rooted the phone was to install a ROM with A2SD+ on it.
On standard android operating system the apps are installed on the internal memory which is only around 140mb, Basically A2SD+ installs all the apps on the SD card.
I have installed around 85 apps and still have around 102mb free.
P.s. i used this rooting guide, http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/
But i did not use that way to install a2sd because i installed a2sd+ instead.
Hi,
Im totally new to phone flashing, rooting etc. Please answer few of my questions before I make something bad to my beloved Desire
I have Wavesecure installed. However it has a limitation based on Android ROM - application cannot start GPS by itself. Seems to be secure-issued thing. I do not want to discuss it - just found out that if I will root my Desire then Wavesecure is able to start GPS tracking based on my SMS.
This is very important for me as I find this feature "a must" if phone is stolen.
I do not want to change anything in my ROM, do not want to flash new roms - just need root for Wavesecure.
And here is my major question - if done with some of tutorials:
- will I be able to run smooth still my old HTC rom without any problems, data loss etc? So will it just have root feature and nothing changed?
- if HTC releases new firmware update - can I install it from HTC or I will have to skip?
- if I install HTC release - will I have to root again?
1) rooting with the Stock image is fine, and you will be able to create backups of your phone in the future (which is always helpful)
2) Yes you can install them but you loose your rootedness and as such use of wavesecure
3) as above and yes, but you dont have to stick with the HTC ROM's, the cooked ROMs on here are way more fun
Thanks!
Is there any good guide for rooting only with 0.8 bootloader? All I found is rooting+flashing and I would like to avoid flash.
Wants only to add root feature, do not change ROM and last but not least - do not loose any settings/data...
sorry but in order to root your phone you have to flash a new rom
you are currently using a htc official unrooted rom
you need to install a htc rooted rom (this is just the htc official rom (yours) with root features)
this will clear the data off your phone, however if you have enabled the default backup feature of the phone most of this will be backed up and restored, you can even download 3rd party software such as titanium backup and mybackup pro from the market
Thanks for the info.
So I think I will wait for official 2.2 ROM and then I'll flash. Should be in few days/weeks now as already got 2.1-update1 installed via HTC.
Indeed, i was running that 2 days ago and 2.2 will eventually drop, just give it a week or so after and the Cooked ROMS should be up to scratch
Hi everyone,
I've spent the last 6 hours or so with reading about all kinds of stuff, involving rooting your device, installing recovery images, installing custom ROMs (OS), etc., including how to backup your phone with Nandroid (or even easier, using the Rom Manager from the market).
I have a HTC Desire with Android 2.1-update1 (I am glad that I didn't update yet, as now I still have the old 0.80 bootloader). I'd like to try out different other Android versions (unlockr lists so many, they all look interesting). However, before, I'd like to backup my phone, that is, my Android 2.1 including the app and Android settings.
As it appears, I need to have "root" access. But why? From my understanding, everything I should need is a modified recovery image that has nandroid backup integrated. Please correct me if I am wrong, but if I use unrevoked3, won't that tool do exactly that for me, without having me to wipe my phone? I haven't used unrevoked3 yet, and unfortunately it doesn't tell you what this tool exactly does, e.g. it doesn't tell you whether it wipes your phone, and it also doesn't tell you how it is able to give you root access ... which I'm curious about, because downloading it does not involve downloading a update.zip with > 100 MB of size.
Aside from that, why do "root your phone" solutions always force me to wipe my phone? Isn't it possible to just "update" my phone OS from Desire's Android 2.1 to Desire's hacked 2.1 with root access??
Cheers!
Never mind. It's actually quite easy.
Just go to the Desire-root guide on rootmydroid co uk.
Just follow step 1. You get to back up your device without having to root it.
Will only work if the Desire is not updated to Android 2.2 (OTA update) yet.
Is it possible to unroot the stock 2.2 after doing unrEVOked 3.21?
And if I keep running a rooted stock 2.2, is it safe to install OTA?
I find myself stuck in a similar situation too. Can anyone answer his question (is it safe to install OTA updates on a rooted phone?)
No its not, but on the other hand the update is not that spectacular it's worth to unroot for it. Just be patient for a couple of days until it's integrated in the custom roms.
If you still want to unroot use a RUU, has been mention probably in half of the threads in Q&A.
Thanks a ton Mr.Ghost, you see I'm a complete n00b and I'm just starting to get my way through.
hilljd00 said:
I've just rooted by Desire, just getting my head around different roms, just wish there was a comparision list
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What is there to compare?
You choose either Sense/Non-sense..
A2SD+/Non A2SD+
The rest is just personal preference.
Try one, if you dont like it, wipe and apply another ROm.
what's the best app to save all settings before installing new ROM?
kmetek said:
what's the best app to save all settings before installing new ROM?
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Titanium Backup. A donate version is available (as well as a free version) in the market. It will backup:
Applications (+ associated data)
Home screen data (icons, locations of widgets - you will need to remove them and re-add them, wallpaper, etc.)
Misc. settings
Then you can restore the data (obviously...). It will ONLY work on rooted phones.
Hi!
I'm a norwegian girl that baught my first android phone a month ago. I loooove my Desire HD, but I hate alot of the crap that came with it. Stocks, amazon mp3, peep and so on. I don't like that they keep using my phone when I have no use for them what so ever.
I'm also a "design freak" and I'm currently working on making my own icons and backgrounds etc to use with laucherpro. I like sense, but I don't like having to deal with all the bloatware that I can't hide there. I don't like -hiding- it in launcherpro either, 'cause I know they are there - lurking in the background...
I'm not completely noob with technical stuff, but I have never rooted a phone before.
I have the 1.32 version of the system-thingy on my phone, (I read somwhere that makes it easier to root?)
Is it possible to root the phone, remove all bloatware I don't use, and have sense UI and everything as normal ? And is it hard to flash custom ROM's? I'm attracted by the thought of getting to customize my phone even more. I can sit for hours and hours, lol
Also, when the 2.3 update comes from HTC, is it a pain in the ass to get it working on my phone when it's rooted?
as you are on the 1.32 platform, you can very easily root the phone and do S-OFF and all that necessary rooting business, there are many tutorials in this developer section on how to do this. After you have root access (and a custom rom if you please) you can install a program called titanium backup, and force remove it from there, a tutorial is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829662&highlight=force+remove+titanium+backup
If you have root/a custom rom then the 2.3 update should be easy to do as you can flash an official RUU, which if a 2.3 update appears there will be plenty of tutorials for.