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Is a ROM for life?

I am at the stage where I need to choose a ROM for my new Diamond. I'm wondering, is a ROM for life? i.e. if you install a ROM and then TomTom etc, is it a real problem if you want to update your ROM in the future, because you would lose all the programs and settings?
Thanks,
Jon

They are definitely NOT for life.
Personally I update ROM every time my ROM provider (Thanks Panosha) updates.
Cheers!

Perhaps it should I make you a statue.

Jon12345 said:
is it a real problem if you want to update your ROM in the future, because you would lose all the programs and settings?
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Yes, that's the only downside to updating your ROM frequently. But don't worry, once you've installed the same set of apps over 10+ times you'll be installing and configuring your apps with your eyes closed, sometimes twice in one day

To reinstall the apps, does it take long? Does Active Sync auto detect that they should be on the device or someting?

Jon12345 said:
To reinstall the apps, does it take long? Does Active Sync auto detect that they should be on the device or someting?
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I install all my apps via cab files now. If it isn't available in cab form it's not worth installing.
But from what I remember if the app was installed via Activesync then once the phone is connected you can select to add the program again. All AS does is copy the cab file to the phone, install and then delete it. So if you can get hold of the cab you can copy them over yourself and keep copies on your device.
You will still have to configure all the settings for each app again.

Jon12345 said:
To reinstall the apps, does it take long? Does Active Sync auto detect that they should be on the device or someting?
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Connect to PC via disk drive(faster speeds) and just dump a zip file packed with all your favorite apps, wallpapers, music, vidsss etc....
I call it landing site.
Then you just unzip and start installing.
And as my fellow Diamond Users have stated,
Mujja said:
Yes, that's the only downside to updating your ROM frequently. But don't worry, once you've installed the same set of apps over 10+ times you'll be installing and configuring your apps with your eyes closed, sometimes twice in one day
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Mujja said:
I install all my apps via cab files now. If it isn't available in cab form it's not worth installing.
But from what I remember if the app was installed via Activesync then once the phone is connected you can select to add the program again. All AS does is copy the cab file to the phone, install and then delete it. So if you can get hold of the cab you can copy them over yourself and keep copies on your device.
You will still have to configure all the settings for each app again.
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Only use cab.
Luck!

MSN Messenger for my artemis?

Is there a way to get MSN Messenger onto my phone for free or is it a purchase only? I found an old version of Messenger for pocket pc 2002 ( it was via a thread at this board ) which after installation on my phone showed the MSN icon but didn't do anything. There was some update file which I needed as well to make it work but microsoft had deleted it. I'm just looking for messenger the same as it is on my pc, with standard smileys, etc, not one of those messenger clones. Thanks.

How's this? http://www.badongo.com/file/2528811

JamminJaguar said:
How's this? http://www.badongo.com/file/2528811
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Thanks man. Unfortunately, after it goes through the process of trying to install the .CAB file on my phone, it says installation unsuccessful. Not sure why tbh. On their error screen, they say it could be insufficient memory, device may not support it, or that my carrier (T-Mobile) may not allow it. As it installs, it doesn't give me an option to install to either the device or my storage card. Any suggestions?

Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334621

JamminJaguar said:
Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334621
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Excellent, I got it working! I tried out duttythroy's 1.80mb cab file and it worked. Well actually, it said successful install but there was nothing to find of the program anywhere on my device except in remove programs. So I decided to look in my device/windows folder, and all the WLM files were in there. I clicked on the WLMMessenger.exe and it went through the set up process, merging contacts and signing me in. Thank you JamminJaguar and duttythroy.

No problem, now buy my Nike.

JamminJaguar said:
No problem, now buy my Nike.
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Heh
Actually, I ended up installing this, uninstalling it and reinstalling it, because I did something wrong with the setup. On the first install, messenger, windows live services and and search bar all showed up on my phones desktop which was great. This time, it's not showing at all for some reason. Maybe because on the second install I decided to untick the search bar and services? So I've copied the WLMMessenger.exe from the windows folder and pasted it into my device/program files folder and that works.

ANd agoin
im not and idiot or a noob, im tyring to post legitimate feedback on an android rom i am currently using but i need 10 posts so here is one more, thanks for this stupid rule! 8
I have been using Droid ROMS, MODS and kernels since the G1.

Noob frendly MANGO update

decided to make a tut on how to update to mango for the first timers out there that have no clue on how to do it! YOURE WELCOME!
this is a straight forward step by step tut
i take no responsibilities if u brick and take no credit for it
all credit do to all that make this happened
also do research before you do anything, i always do it before any upgrade or mod to any device being cellphone or any kind of electronics THE SEARCH BUTTON IS JUST LIKE GOOGLE IT WILL BE YOURE BEST FRIEND, and after a lot of searching then post youre questions so the comunity can help!
the back up is created at
C:\Users\YOURE USER NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
and it will be a folder with a large sequence of alfa numeric name
i advice to copy this to other location because when you upgrade or downgrade the zune software it delets this file
also in this tread is more indeepth on wp7 backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103011
if you cant see appdata folder try this:
1) Open Windows Explorer (Start\All Programs\ Accessories)
2) In Windows Explorer go to Computer\"driveletter"\users\"username"
3) With "username" highlighted, click "Organize" (top left of Windows Explorer window) and then select "Folder and Search Options"
4) Check the "Show All Folders" box in the General tab
5) Go to the "View" tab
6) Click the "Show hidden files, folders, and drives" radio button
if you already updated or downgraded zune software sorry but you will have to reflash youre wp7 with a stock or unbranded rom and start over, i did cause i wanted to have mango unlocked to load sideapps
to restore last state you have to download windows 7 backup tool 1.6 or 1.5,
1.5 was the only one that worked for me
to do the backup just open app click restore and make sure youre backup file is in
C:\Users\YOURE USER NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update directory
you must have zune software prior version 4.8 for this to work with provision.exe so it will do a full backup, if you use zune 4.8 it wont do a full backup. YOU BEEN WARNED
1.download and unpack the files www.mediafire.com/?5zclb0ou8zdll
2.install file WPSupportTool-x86.msi for 32 bit or WPSupportTool-amd64.msi for 64 bit
3.run Provision.exe, it will make backup of youre phone and it will run all files to prepare youre phone for mango update
4.when it finishes close provision app and run StartZuneLocal.exe to install zune 4.8, after it finishes connect phone and follow instructions and all done welcome to MANGO!
if theres an error please post it so i can edit the post for future members
saludos a todos desde puerto rico!

Awesome! Giving this a try (fingers crossed).
Is there a difference between part 1 and part 2? I'm going with 1 first to see if there is any difference.

Success! Worked just as you said...good work!

good to know that all went good

Worked perfectly, everything so far seems to be working. Only thing I've found not to work is to do with my marketplace Orange selects. Have to search for my free apps this month. Also the HTC apps in marketplace throws up the same error. But good work made the process so much easier.

does this work for any windows phone?
I have a Dell Venue Pro

maxima00se said:
Awesome! Giving this a try (fingers crossed).
Is there a difference between part 1 and part 2? I'm going with 1 first to see if there is any difference.
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Im pretty sure you have to download both and then unzip one of them because the files are split into two zip folders

Worked perfectly on my HTC Mozart, and you do need to unzip both files, which should be done automatically if using WinZip.

Worked for me on a Samsung Focus.

I reistalled zune 4.7, I was at 4.8. Now it is not seeing my phone. any ideas

i've read that zune 4.7 doesn't work with mango, it has to be 4.8.
On-topic:
i've updated to mango with these files and its working like a charm, it feels my trophy is somehow more complete, it works faster, smoother, and it's all the little things that are so cool.
For example the people tile, with nodo it just displayed 9 pictures at the most in the tile, so they were all small pictures, now with mango it sometimes chooses random pics and makes them bigger so the pictures has the size of 4 small pictures.
the way the letters slide away in the people app and in the apps menu.
the icons in text messages, the somewhat different color of send and received messages.
these are the cosmetic changes i've noticed so far, but they are all pretty neat

Neat indeed!
Ie9 let's you see recent history (don't think it was there before Mango)
My phone now let me see Facebook events while on the locked screen (don't think it was there before either)

Is there still no way to upgrade to mango with windows xp?

I had to drop back down to 4.7 for the provision to backup and install the files it needed. I followed the directions from there and it work like a charm. Do they all say not for resale when you boot up?? I also wanted to know if its to buggy can I drop back to the nodo. Now I have to play with the custom ringtones.Thanks for making it so easy.

hey guys, I run the provision file and it worked fine but after it backed up my files it gave me the error code 80181103 and it says "The update folder can't be renamed"
I'm using samsung focus 7.0.7390.0

the only problem im having on my HD7 is that is dropping calls like flies and the problem is the proximity sensor just like the iphone 4 when it came out, have to research and see if anyone esle is having this problem, but everiting else is great!
after eating this sweet mango i dont want nodo anymore
also loving the virtual voicemail

Hey thank you for your guide!
I Want to update my unlocked optimus 7. Dies this method prevent my phone from relocking? And if i Want to get back to Bodo i only habe to restore with my Bodo Backup right?
Best regards
Desmo

So i can try this for on my Omnia 7?

Is there a way to unlock it now after I did the mango update. I would like to put ringtones but I can't seem to install touchexplorer.I really like the mango so far.Is there a way I can get it unlocked with tmobile??

Going to give this a bash over the weekend
stephboyle127 said:
Worked perfectly, everything so far seems to be working. Only thing I've found not to work is to do with my marketplace Orange selects. Have to search for my free apps this month. Also the HTC apps in marketplace throws up the same error. But good work made the process so much easier.
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Quick question, did you get your marketplace problems sorted?
Cheers

How to disable HTC Sync Manager Autoplay on Jellybean

Hey guys I'm sure many of you noticed that ever since we updated our One X to Jellybean Sense, USB Mass Storage has been changed to MTP format. That issue has been taken cared off here. There was also an Autoplay Menu, showing to install HTC Sync Manager or Open to View Files (which showed a bunch of drivers and stuff...) especially when you uninstall HTC Sync Manager from your PC . Now there's a way to remove that as well.
1. Use Root Explorer and head on over to System/App
2. Mount as r/w from r/o if you haven't
3. Delete HtcSyncManager.apk
4. Reboot and Enjoy
If you have any problems mounting your system afterward, try rebooting your phone and PC. If not, simply reflash your ROM and it should take care of it .
Will update this thread if I find any more issues and workarounds.

RohinZaraki said:
Hey guys I'm sure many of you noticed that ever since we updated our One X to Jellybean Sense, USB Mass Storage has been changed to MTP format. That issue has been taken cared off here. There was also an Autoplay Menu, showing to install HTC Sync Manager or Open to View Files (which showed a bunch of drivers and stuff...) especially when you uninstall HTC Sync Manager from your PC . Now there's a way to remove that as well.
1. Use Root Explorer and head on over to System/App
2. Mount as r/w from r/o if you haven't
3. Delete HtcSyncManager.apk
4. Reboot and Enjoy
If you have any problems mounting your system afterward, try rebooting your phone and PC. If not, simply reflash your ROM and it should take care of it .
Will update this thread if I find any more issues and workarounds.
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Thanks this was really getting on my nerves
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Thanks,
Will i be able to run the HtcSyncManager at a later point ?

tripleR123 said:
Thanks,
Will i be able to run the HtcSyncManager at a later point ?
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I think simply reflashing or restoring the file should "unfix" it

tripleR123 said:
Thanks,
Will i be able to run the HtcSyncManager at a later point ?
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You can also simply "Disable" HTCSyncManager from Settings>Apps>All. This was you can easily re-enable when you need it!

omar302 said:
You can also simply "Disable" HTCSyncManager from Settings>Apps>All. This was you can easily re-enable when you need it!
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Just updated my cid_032 to JB and saw this HTCSyncManager autorun as cdfs at My Computer and start to find way to remove it. Found this thread and because i'm not rooted tryed this soluton , but it didn't work , there is no "HTCSyncManager" app in Settings>Apps>All... there is only HTC Sync app which is very different... maybe it's time to root this iron
p.s: just thinking wheather if I install HTC sync manager on my pc ( i installed just drivers , don't like much soft if it's not needed ) this autorun will disappear from itself ( some kind of checking and stopping automaticaly ) ??? 10x in advance...

SnOOpeRa said:
Just updated my cid_032 to JB and saw this HTCSyncManager autorun as cdfs at My Computer and start to find way to remove it. Found this thread and because i'm not rooted tryed this soluton , but it didn't work , there is no "HTCSyncManager" app in Settings>Apps>All... there is only HTC Sync app which is very different... maybe it's time to root this iron
p.s: just thinking wheather if I install HTC sync manager on my pc ( i installed just drivers , don't like much soft if it's not needed ) this autorun will disappear from itself ( some kind of checking and stopping automaticaly ) ??? 10x in advance...
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Yes, I think it will this is annoying when you get tired of HTCSyncManager and you uninstall it and this autorun keeps pestering you to re-install it . Why haven't you rooted it tho .

Still not able to mount it on my macbook after these steps. Are you sure it makes it mount as a block device again?

I fixed that problem just by removing the drive letter from the corresponding drive. Haven't seen the annoying popup since.

Thanks, removed the system app.

Or go to Settings-->Apps-->all-->HTC Sync then stop and deactivate the app.
And if you later want to reenable it just do the same but with activate and start.
greez

I removed HTCSyncManager.apk, and it helped initially, but the sucker was still popping up in Windows, only now a couple of minutes later after I plugged in the phone. I traced this down to Windows service HTCMonitorService, which I had to stop and disable to completely prevent Sync Manager from popping up. Apparently the purpose of that service is to periodically check for presence of the phone at USB port and start sync in case auto-start didn't do it. That's one more step that you need to do if you want to keep HTC Sync Manager software in Windows (for drivers for example), but prevent it from loading up every time on USB connection.
By the way, none of this is specific to HTC One X. I have One now and before that, One X+. They all suffered from the same problem, so this thread likely applies to most latest HTC phones running Android.

This is now called 'PC Synchronization', not HTCSyncManager.

[Q] Unable to connect to PC properly after rooting

Hello,
I have had my HTC One M8 for a while now but I wasn't really happy with the soundquality while playing through my headphones, so I looked for ways to improve it. I found a few methods and finally decided to give it a try. These methods require a root so yesterday I have rooted my phone for the first time. Unfortunately I am experiencing some problems now.
The rooting process went without too much trouble. I used hasoon2000's toolkit and have TWRP version 2.7.0.2 installed as recovery and used it to install the provided SuperSU, which didn't work at first. On the forums I found a newer version and installed that one, updated it and got it to work.
Now this is where I think I messed up: I read somewhere that when rooted, you are able to delete pre-installed apps from the phone. I downloaded SD maid and deleted Kid Mode, Zoe and 7digital. When I deleted Kid Mode I got an error saying it has crashed. I tapped away the error but from this point I couldn't go back to my homescreen anymore because my launcher kept crashing (com.htc.launcher crashed). I rebooted the phone and the launcher worked again, but the phone still seemed to be buggy.
After this I tried to install the snapdragon audio+ (this was my first choice for an equalizer). I downloaded the apk and moved it to the system folder using ES file manager. I installed but when I tried to use it (through settings in google play music app) my phone would crash. I uninstalled it and tried again, but when I tried to move the apk to the system map like before, my phone would crash everytime. I then found out the file I used doesn't work for lollipop so I figured that's what caused the crashes.
My next move was to try and install viper4android. I downloaded it from the Play Store and opened it. It told me it needed an installation of BusyBox so I downloaded that too. But when I opened the BusyBox app and clicked install my phone would crash again. After some searching I found that the HTC One M8 requires BusyBox to be flashed manually so I downloaded the file but when I tried to load it onto my phone I noticed this wasn't possible anymore.
Now when I connect my phone to my PC the PC recognizes it, but when I open the map in Windows Explorer it only shows three maps; .showme, _nero_sync and Ringtones. I know there should be more as they were there before. It also shows my phone's capacity as a total of 10GB (shouldn't this be 16GB?). Also when I try to connect it with Sync Manager it gives me an error everytime I reconnect the phone; Device unavailable. Please reconnect your device [4].
I have tried to reset the phone through settings, wipe with TWRP and fix permissions with TWRP. I also tried reinstalling Sync Manager and the drivers on my PC. What I'm thinking now is I maybe have done something wrong in the ES file explorer that would make the folders unaccessible.
My phone is running stock android 5.0.1 and my PC Windows 7 64-bit.
I hope someone can help me, Thanks.
P.S: Sorry for the long post, I figured I'd give as much info as possible.

@Steef076 First update recovery to the latest one (2.8.6.0)
Second if you go and delete vital or integrated parts of the stock rom you will get a lot of bugs. Third, viper4android requires to write system and you can't write system with the stock kernel, you need an unsecured kernel or unsecure it yourself.
10GB is right since 6 is eaten by android. At this point I would just revert to a backup or install any custom rom around here. Most are close to stock and with no bloatware and come with root. You can even clean them further using a tool called ROM Cleaner. It will most likely solve all your problems

Did the deleted system apps reappear after reboot, or do they remain "uninstalled"? If the system is write protected like TempestZ states, any deleted system apps should reappear after a reboot.
Revert your nandroid to restore the system apps. And you didn't make a nandroid, you really should before making any system modifications for the very reason that it allows you to revert if you run into problems.
Another good practice, is if you don't know what effect deleting a system app will have (such as "safe to delete" lists that can sometimes be found on XDA) you should first freeze the app with Titanium Backup. If freezing doesn't cause any issues, then go ahead and delete. If you do have issues, just unfreeze the app.
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Now when I connect my phone to my PC the PC recognizes it, but when I open the map in Windows Explorer it only shows three maps; .showme, _nero_sync and Ringtones. I know there should be more as they were there before. It also shows my phone's capacity as a total of 10GB (shouldn't this be 16GB?). Also when I try to connect it with Sync Manager it gives me an error everytime I reconnect the phone; Device unavailable. Please reconnect your device [4].
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No, Windows will never show 16 GB. It only shows "internal storage" partition, or the user accessible portion of the storage. A good chunk is reserved for the OS.
Does what is shown in Windows differ from what is shown in ES if you browse to internal storage?

Thanks for the replies. @TempestZ @redpoint73
First of all I managed to update twrp to 2.8.6.0 using adb/fastboot.
To answer your question @redpoint73 the system apps I had deleted indeed reappeared after reboot. Also I didn't make a nandroid before I deleted the files, as I did not even know this was possible. Now I have made a nandroid of my stock ROM that is working decently, except for the TV app keeps crashing (I'm not opening it) and the connection to the PC is not working properly (not sure if this is ROM based?). I have noticed when the phone is in recovery I CAN see the folders through windows explorer. HTC sync manager still doesn't find it though. I am working on finding a proper stock ROM or maybe flash a custom one to see if that will fix it.
I understand now that the OS is taking up the storage space. The space windows is showing is the same as ES file manager so I guess this is fine.

HTC Sync is a hot mess. It often causes more troubles than it solves.
One thing you can try (to see if it fixes the USB connectivity) is uninstall HTC Sync and all HTC drivers. Than connect the phone. Don't let it install HTC Sync. Go to Windows Device Manager, find the device. Then pick the option to manually select the drivers, and pick the generic "Android MTP device" (or something to that effect) drivers.
This doesn't work for everyone. But it worked for me to be able to "see" the internal storage of my M8 on my home PC (Win 7). Annoyingly, it seems to vary from one PC to another. My work laptop (also Win 7) works fine with HTC Sync.

Steef076 said:
So if I understand correctly, 'version-main' is the same as 'firmware' and 'software number' (found in settings)? If so, my current firmware seems to be 4.19.114.2.
Now, what you're saying is I should do an OTA but this isn't possible because I have a custom recovery right?
Also, when I want to flash stock rom and stock recovery or do a nand don't I need the files that fit my cidnum? How would your file work for me?
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If yours already on 4.19.114.2 then no need to do OTA as that the latest.
and my backup will bring back your device back to stock as you first bought it when restore with a full wipe.
Try to solve your problem first, only when you really need the backup then only I will upload ... let me know

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If yours already on 4.19.114.2 then no need to do OTA as that the latest.
and my backup will bring back your device back to stock as you first bought it when restore with a full wipe.
Try to solve your problem first, only when you really need the backup then only I will upload ... let me know
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Hello, sorry for the late reply.
I have decided to give a custom ROM a try. I now have ARHD 41.0 installed and it seems this took care of my problems. All the maps are showing in windows explorer and HTC sync manager is connecting properly with my phone again. Also no more crashing apps. Your backup would still be of much use for me as I am not sure I want to stick with a custom ROM and therefore would like to have a stock ROM backup.
Thanks in advance.