[Q] help for newbie - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi.
I'm new to android, and i am being forced to learn as my wife has just bought a desire hd.
Unfortunately it is simlocked to t-mobile in the uk.
In my quest to unlock it i stumbled on this thread and software http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180639&highlight=umt
Now i half understand most of the terms after researching the internet.
All i really need to do is simunlock the phone, but i amm unsure if this will allow software updates in the standard phone way?
Halfway through the thread i found that to do the simunlock function you need to downgrade then root. I am taking this to mean downgrade android version, to allow use of the vaulnerability of the old version? Is there a downside to this?
Rooting... if i gain root access through the listed method can I leave the stock ROM on there or will it be the downgraded version i used to unlock it?
Once i have downgraded and sim unlocked can I upgrade again without using a custom rom through the phones normal software?
What are the benefits of doing the radio S-Off, and ENG s--off functions and are there any drawbacks?
The wife really wants to have a standard phone that works like a standard one that can receive updates.
I know i'm probably better off just buying a imei based simunlock code, if that is the case can anyone recomend a uk service? I'd still be interested in the answers to the questions for my phone upgrade time.
Thanks.

Downgrade, temp root, run the radio, super cid, sim unlock tool and you'll be sim unlocked and can still install ota firmware.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!

But who wants stock HTC? Go the whole hog and install Virtuous Unity. The difference is staggering
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pwraggcan said:
Downgrade, temp root, run the radio, super cid, sim unlock tool and you'll be sim unlocked and can still install ota firmware.
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+1, you don't need to install a custom ROM, and if you run an orange RUU you will be able to install OTA updates without any problems. If it where your phone I recommend the custom ROM route but with your better halfs phone your probably better off sticking with stock

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Unlock Orange UK branded HTC Desire

Hi guys,
Anyone out there know a reliable place/site to get my HTC Desire unlocked??
Anyone with with personal experiences with unlocking an Orange UK branded Desire??
Pls help, I'm dying to use this phone...
You could always make a goldcard and root/unlock it yourself
DanTehManUK said:
You could always make a goldcard and root/unlock it yourself
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would I still have the Android 2.1 with HTC sense, if I root with a goldcard? Also will I be able to update it to 2.2 (whenever it is available) Over The Air??
shanofran said:
would I still have the Android 2.1 with HTC sense, if I root with a goldcard? Also will I be able to update it to 2.2 (whenever it is available) Over The Air??
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You would still have 2.1 this is how i started;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
and then i just jumped to a cooked ROM
as for over the air im not actually too sure about that might be a matter of jkust flashing to the 2.2 when it eventually drops in like 2weeks - 2months
Thanks, DanTehManUK.
That was is a very useful link, thanks for being so helpful...
Its what we do
could you help me pleez! i am on a branded htc desire 2.2 with hboot 0.93.
i need to know how to create a goldcard for it. i also need to know how to root it to add custom roms. i have searched the forums but some say i cant create a goldcard for it and such so i am confused. all help would be appreciated as i am abit ov a noob, but understand some aspects.
Thanks in advance
theres no need to use the gold card method,.... try the unrevoked method its much easier and you will be rooted in ten minutes max
Could u kindly send me a link on what to do pleez? And how come it doesnt need a goldcard? :/ can u still add custom theme/rom if u dont? Thanks
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Thanks, DanTehManUK.
That was is a very useful link, thanks for being so helpful...
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have you been able to unlock your phone by rooting it?
Rooting doesn't SIM unlock the phone, you still need to get a code for that
I unlocked my phone in five minutes by ringing the phone company the phone was locked to.
You can use the app in the general forum to sim unlock the phone - no codes, no cost.
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Use the desire sim unlock utility in the development thread. I've used it numerous times and it always works and it's free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
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Hi, a few questions?

Hi, everybody I am new to this forum thought I'd introduce myself and get answers to a few questions,which I've been searching for.
I'm from Pakistan, previously I had an iphone 2g I was into the whole jailbreaking stuff for that too.
I recently bought a slightly used htc desire. Firstly it didn't come with a 4gb memory card and it is on firmware 2.1update-1. It has no physical branding on it but in the scenes menu it has a vodafone scene and its firmware is 1.19.161.5 CL171460 release-keys which I looked up and is a vodafone firmware, what I want to know is that is this phone a manually unlocked phone or was it factory unlocked? And if I root it and then debrand it then will it get locked consequently needing an unlock code?
My hboot is 0.80 and touch panel synt101, is synt101 the amoled panel?
Yesterday I checked for an OTA update from the phone and it showed that an update is available, should I update? Will I still be able to root after the ota update?
Thank You Guys in Advance!
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Vodafone don't SIM-lock their phones any more so any SIM card can be used it in - the only issue you'd have is down to updates for the device (Vodafone UK have just released their FroYo build so you can get that over WiFi) - you WON'T however, be able to root it so only do this if you want a stock 2.2 Desire
It'll be an AMOLED unit too more than likely.
That's a relief to hear that its not going to get locked. I do want to root it(for a custom firmware), so which procedure should I follow root > debrand > custom firmware. A link to a guide would be very helpful thanks.
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saad.dawra said:
That's a relief to hear that its not going to get locked. I do want to root it(for a custom firmware), so which procedure should I follow root > debrand > custom firmware. A link to a guide would be very helpful thanks.
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Check this thread: TUT]Complete upgrading guide(root, unroot, flashing ROM & updates)
I found there all I needed to root my phone and made it ready for customizing.
A few of the rooting tutorials I have seen tell how to root either an unlocked unbranded phone or a locked branded phone. My phone has the vodafone firmware and it is unlocked, so presumably it falls into the category of unlocked branded phones? So should I follow the guides for the unbranded unlocked phones or the other?
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[Q] Can I root my Desire if locked on Vodafone?

Hi guys,
I know my question maybe dumb, but I am not as much an expert in this android business.
So, can I use Unrevoked to root my desire if it is locked on Vodafone (Romania)? Can I debrand or unlock it, via a ROM , a MOD or anything simillar? Or only in specialized centers?
Thanks for your ideas.
It is possible to root and debrand your desire using the unrevoked method and to use a custom ROM.
If it's a branded phone, you may need to use a gold card. If it's recent model, then you may need to downgrade the boot loader to an earlier version. There are some excellent guides out there (see this post for links).
A friend of mine believed that his HTC Legend was still SIM locked after all this, so I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to unlock the phone that way.
Thanks man for the quick reply. I used unrevoked with no issues on my previous Desire (which I sold to try the nokia N8) but that was not locked. Now I have a chance to get a locked one at a more reasonable price and that is why i was wondering. So practically it is ok, I just need to root so that I can have a few minor tweaks like on my previous one. No major stuff: just for instance installing the ROM manager or backup pro or A2SD+. So if this is possible I dont need the phone to be unlocked, as I actually am on Vodafone.

[Q] Root Desire HD OTA update gingerbread 2.3.3

hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
jkoljo said:
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
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To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
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Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
jkoljo said:
You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time

[Q] Can I flash any RUU with unlocked bootloader?

Hey guys,
About 7 weeks ago, my simcardreader stopped functioning. Because my device was rooted, I unrooted it, and flashed the original RUU to be able to get it repaired. 3 weeks later I got my device back, only to discover that the simcardreader was still defective. Ok, back to the repair center.
Yesterday I received it again, and was glad that the cardreader was working again. Glad...untill I saw that they flashed a wrong rom, with only five languages: English, Spanish, French, Italian and German. As I live in Belgium, where we speak Dutch, I'd prefer to have a Dutch rom, but apparantly that can only be done in the repair center. But again three weeks without my desire hd, me no likey.
Rooting is apparantly out of the question, because I'm on rom 3.12.405, which seems to be very hard to root. So I started to look at the bootloader unlock mechanism. If I unlock it, would I be able to flash any RUU, i.e the original RUU I flashed before sending it to the repair center (1.32)? Do you guys see any other options?
Thank you!
Well if you could do that, you'd be able to root, wouldn't you? I didn't quite follow the scene lately with the latest software releases, but if your SW version is very difficult to root, I'm sure some dev already tried flashing older RUU, and most likely failed...
Can you flash an older when son? NO.
3.12.405 being difficult to root? NO.
just use the advance ace hack kit. Its as automated as it gets. Just make sure you read the manual
marsdta said:
3.12.405 being difficult to root? NO.
just use the advance ace hack kit. Its as automated as it gets. Just make sure you read the manual
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In the dev-thread i read everywhere that devices shipped with that version can't be hacked with the AAHK. However, I'm in doubt whether that applies to my device. Originally it shipped with Froyo, then I had it rooted, unrooted it to get it repaired. Then I got it back with 3.12.405. Does that mean it is shipped with Gingerbread?
Both stock Froyo and Gingerbread (pre Sense 3.0) supported
This kit should work fine on HTC Inspire and HTC Desire HD Software versions below 3.06.405.1 which require the radio/kernel downgrade before a root exploit is available.
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Lol if you send it for repair 3rd time, you can get your money back before sending it away, at least that's how it works in Switzerland, not sure if it's the same policy throughout EU but you can try your luck and invest money into HTC One X or something...
Purplizer said:
In the dev-thread i read everywhere that devices shipped with that version can't be hacked with the AAHK. However, I'm in doubt whether that applies to my device. Originally it shipped with Froyo, then I had it rooted, unrooted it to get it repaired. Then I got it back with 3.12.405. Does that mean it is shipped with Gingerbread?
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That's old news. At one point it was true but attn1 was quick to remedy that by using the zergrush and taco root exploits. For those on sense 3.0 it is a little different as it has to downgrade you back to 2.50.405 then you rerun the kit and gain soff and root
marsdta said:
That's old news. At one point it was true but attn1 was quick to remedy that by using the zergrush and taco root exploits. For those on sense 3.0 it is a little different as it has to downgrade you back to 2.50.405 then you rerun the kit and gain soff and root
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Thank you for your answers. I'll try it tomorrow.
I think the hack kit just bricked my phone. Can't even get in bootloader anymore Read the manual five times through before I started.
I was on 3.12.405. During the downgrade process, my bootloader froze, waited for hours, but battery died. New battery, phone doesn't boot
Update:
without sd-card, I can get into bootloader and use navigation. With sd-card, bootloader just freezes. Can't get into recovery, because it freezes at the red exclamation mark.
I suppose you have a PD98IMG on your SD card?
Check if any PD98IMG is in sd card as said above, and delete it.
If it doesn't reboot, you can run the 3.12.405.1 RUU from Hboot. Later you can try the hack kit again.
By the way are you S-ON or S-OFF? and what is your Hboot now?
Try getting a goldcard made.
1. Put ur SD-C in another rooted phone to get ur cards ID.
2. Create the gold card on pc
3 insert it in phone and reflash ur rom in it.
this worked for me after i updated to 3.x and tried to root with AAHK.

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