[Q] S-OFF Help - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I’ve recently rooted my desire (gsm) using unrevoked (Linux) and i thought it would also give me S-OFF but apparently I where wrong. I've already searched around looking for a way to get S-OFF and in all the TUT’s, Guides etc. it says that you should have an unrooted stock HTC 2.2 ROM or at least an official HTC ROM and that’s the problem…
I’m using Cyanogen Mod 7.1 and I had a backup of my stock 2.2 Sense ROM but I lost it.. or. well... i deleted it accidentally.
Now the question is; Can I still get S-OFF and how? Do I flash a HTC ROM and then do it, should I use AlphaRev, Revolutionary or do it manually (if that works on Ubuntu)
All help appreciated

It should work fine with CM7 aslong as you didnt flashed any a2sd/d2ext scripts.
If i remember correctly, i was doing my first S-OFF with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703&highlight=leedroid

k3lcior said:
It should work fine with CM7 aslong as you didnt flashed any a2sd/d2ext scripts.
If i remember correctly, i was doing my first S-OFF with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703&highlight=leedroid
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does that mean you have to flash stock ROM?
i once had this problem too, it causes my phone to stuck at the boot screen (Joker with S-OFF card), and then i flashed a ROM built without A2SD. Voila, it worked!

xuminarc said:
does that mean you have to flash stock ROM?
i once had this problem too, it causes my phone to stuck at the boot screen (Joker with S-OFF card), and then i flashed a ROM built without A2SD. Voila, it worked!
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Not necessarily stock ROM, but ROM without a2sd/d2ext scripts.

k3lcior said:
It should work fine with CM7 aslong as you didnt flashed any a2sd/d2ext scripts.
If i remember correctly, i was doing my first S-OFF with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703&highlight=leedroid
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I don’t know. I downloaded CM7 using rom manager flashed that, Gapps and superuser 3.0 beta 4
But just to be on the safe side I’ll flash Leedroid 2.2 but then what? Do I use Revolutonary or AlphaRev??
edit: a2sd/d2ext scripts it that when you have partitioned the sdcard? cause ive done that but thats easy to fix

No point in using alpharev it's just longer. Use revolutionary.

Hey!
www.[B]revolutionary[/B].io
This is awesome and easy method for rooting
and to achieve S-OFF

Ashutosh1313 said:
www.[B]revolutionary[/B].io
This is awesome and easy method for rooting
and to achieve S-OFF
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This is not a "pressable" url. Please edit it.

Ashutosh1313 said:
www.[B]revolutionary[/B].io
This is awesome and easy method for rooting
and to achieve S-OFF
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linked URL www.revolutionary.io

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[Q] HTC Desire Rooting Problems,

Hi,
Firstly my stock rom is:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_H3G_UK_2.25.771.1_Radio_32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14_release_149217_signed.exe
locked to 3 in the UK
I tried to Root my phone yesterday using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
After completing step 3 rooting phone using unrevoked everything seemed fine but when i tried step 4: S-Off Procedure With Alpharev
it tells me my device is undetectable or doesnt exist. And in the recovery menu of the phone it tells me that misc and cache could not be found or mounted.
I tried to reflash the stock RUU but when i click next it tells me the battery is below 30% (its 100%) and wont let me flash. I did enable install from unkown sources and enabled USB Debugging.
Does anyone know what my next step is cause my goal is to unroot my phone and install a rom like Redux.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
If you need any additional info just ask.
Thanks,
I had trouble at that stage too, it just took my PC a few attempts to connect.
It might be worth just giving it a few more goes.
I also found it useful to install AmonRas recovery as a custom recovery with the unrevoked tool, and to also not install the recovery in alpharev.
Have you tried wiping the battery userdata in recovery before running the RUU?
Thank you so much, AmonRas recovery showed no dam errors like clockwork did, im about to attempt to s-off it now, il update this in a while about how it goes.
Hopefully it should be smooth sailing from here.
Thanks!
I found that alpharev refused to recognise my device while I remained on stock sense rom after rooting. Only when I flashed custom rom if choice (oxygen at the time) did it work.
You have to avoid roms using data2sd etc though, instructions at http://www.alpharev.com
stringer7 said:
I found that alpharev refused to recognise my device while I remained on stock sense rom after rooting. Only when I flashed custom rom if choice (oxygen at the time) did it work.
You have to avoid roms using data2sd etc though, instructions at http://www.alpharev.com
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You need a .nl not .com on that link
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welshbloke70 said:
You need a .nl not .com on that link
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You are right! Sleep deprivation gets the better of me once more...
stringer7 said:
You are right! Sleep deprivation gets the better of me once more...
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Confused the heck out of me, I thought alpharev were getting sponsored advertising or something.
So OP are things working? Which ROM did you decide on?

[Q] Flashed GB official ruu. Can not root. Help...

Hi Fellow xda.
I have flashed the official Gingerbread ota update ruu to my desire.
After that i realized that i couldnt root or go back to Oxygen rom, now that the hboot version is 1.02
Before i had hboot version 0.93 i think.
I have tried the downgrade to 2.1
and root again with unrevoked.
None of these 2 methods work.
Is there any other way to go back to rooted and custom recovery to oxygen rom or hboot 0.93?.
With oxygen and launcherpro my desire feels faster than stock sense
Anyone else have this problem?
There is currently no method of downgrading the hboot or rooting the official GB RUU.
I guess all you can do is wait until somebody figures a way to root and install custom recovery
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Ops good job I never installed this. I read others having this problem also.
Same situation, precipitaded mself, now can't root and all my backups are Titanium backups, have nandroid backups but can't use them....
damn...
isn't it possible to downgrade hboot?
I am also facing this problem. Is there any solution available now?
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Device:
HTC Desire: Android 2.3.3 official Gingerbread rom.
No solution - check Alpharev/Unrevoked updates - if there will be a solution, it will probably be in the developement section.
Someone said that they used a Froyo RUU to downgrade then they just rooted. But it didn't work for other people but I think its with a shot. Otherwise you'll have to wait.
Swyped...
Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.
I don't think they rooted it as such, but more of "ported" it. I don't know a thing about rom development but go and ask him.
aaa said:
Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.
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The difference is that when u run the ruu, it will overwrite ur hboot, ur recovery, ur rom, ecc, everything...So u lost root, because the ruu restore everything as stock.
In particular after run the ruu, the new hboot installed doesn't allow to root again and doesn't allow to change hboot at the moment.
Instead, when u flash the rooted rom based on official gb (u already have root and u don't lost it, simply), the zip contain only the rom part and with inside the super user apk (that allow root permission), so flashing it u will continue to have ur recovery, ur hboot, ur root permissions.
Instead when running the ruu, so u lost root, there is no way to install again a custom recovery and there is no way to push the super user apk into the rom (unrevoked / alpharev doesn't work)..At the moment.
From devs side, create a rooted rom is easy, as they extract from the ruu only the rom and make it rooted pushing in the zip that they are going to create the super user apk and some other tweaks to the kernel as well...All this can be done with the dsixda kitchen
I hope everything is clear now
shankly1985 said:
Ops good job I never installed this. I readothers having this problem also.
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That you did. There are plenty of threads with that information available.
is there a way to root now?
we should wait?
Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.
Thank goodness...I was tempted to flash the original RUU...but my stomach told me not to do it...I would have been in the same situation if had flashed it too...
I hope there will be an easy solution in the near future for you guys
@andQlimax: Thanks for the information so...so, I hit the thanks button
Popenda said:
Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.
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and what should we do now?
except waiting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.
Meaple said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.
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i can't access recovery
I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
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ste1164 said:
I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
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Have the same problem as others here. Tried both apk and adb with GingerBreak. No luck
...but I'm trying to play around a bit and got a noob idea to use ARUWizard to flash custom rom. I've extracted RUU 2.29 and RUU 2.3.3 and replaced 2.3.3 rom.zip with the one from 2.29. It didn't work of course as newer version has been discovered but I was wondering if it's possible just to root the standard rom.zip and put it back. Is there any chance that it works?
Have anyone rooted htc desire with Gingerbread RUU update ?
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HTC Desire (S-ON, HBOOT - 1.02, SLCD)

Revolutionary questions

I recently came across revolutionary, it is said to s-off the devic
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Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I ran it
worked fine for me
sebastianlow said:
Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I am currently using MIUI - D2EXT and successfully S-OFF'ed my desire this morning!
it crashed on me when i said 'y' to download the recovery - wanted to see if it would pull down anything newer than 2.5.0.7
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
Par4 said:
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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well yea I did anyway - but I wanted to know what version it pulled down
So, this is an "easy" way to S-OFF my Desire? (Yes, I'm a noob and afraid of bricking my phone since I, you know, need it to do phone stuff )
My device is rooted, running a custom recovery and MIUI, but it isn't S-OFF'd yet.
I've read that Android Flasher needs S-OFF so the bootscreen etc can be modified, but can I use Android Flasher to flash a custom recovery with an S-ON device?
Unrevoked wouldn't flash the 4EXTRecovery img I just want to make sure I can use Android Flasher instead without going through the S-OFF procedure before.
Thanks, haven't got round to S-off yet as the previous methods seemed somewhat daunting.
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Par4 said:
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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Agree with above quote.
Easy to use, once s-off just use any recovery. I used 4Ext 2.1.3. Just put the Pblahblahblah.img on your sd card and install through fastboot.
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Best is to flash the recovery before s-off with revolutionary so you can skip that part.
as for some the recovery doesn't work in revolutionary
done in a couple of seconds.
and you don't need to use vmware or a bootable cd or usb.
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
Zombie Dude said:
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
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hboot too new
Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Thanks. I did some searching before and found that out. Well guess I'll still be waiting till they find a way to either downgrade or unlock the newer hboot.
aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Sure: http://www.mediafire.com/file/m16ypyymn5x1spn/PB99IMG.zip
Contains no radio or recovery. Does contain HBOOT, but Revolutionary doesn't get overwritten by it.
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
Name of this thread is EPIC!
Rusty! said:
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Salty Wagyu said:
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
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I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?
to get S-ON...because he is still S-off

[Q] vision pvt ship s-off?

does this mean my phone is ROOTED? ITS A G2
sebas81 said:
does this mean my phone is ROOTED? ITS A G2
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S-OFF = rooted
S-ON = not rooted
tun4f1sh said:
S-OFF = rooted
S-ON = not rooted
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and my hboot is 0.82.0008? what does that mean?
S-OFF tells you that the security is switched off on your phone, so that you will be able to flash unsigned ROMs (e.g. custom ROMs).
It does not mean that you are rooted, often people get the terminology wrong here.
If you have S-OFF then you may be able to root (i.e. get root/superuser permissions) on your current ROM, or flash a different ROM (either a pre-rooted custom ROM) or a different ROM where you can use an exploit to get root.
See the Wiki for a lot more details.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
steviewevie said:
S-OFF tells you that the security is switched off on your phone, so that you will be able to flash unsigned ROMs (e.g. custom ROMs).
It does not mean that you are rooted, often people get the terminology wrong here.
If you have S-OFF then you may be able to root (i.e. get root/superuser permissions) on your current ROM, or flash a different ROM (either a pre-rooted custom ROM) or a different ROM where you can use an exploit to get root.
See the Wiki for a lot more details.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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i just cleared all my data from recovery and cant flash custom roms :'( does that mean i have to flash pc10img.zip?
steviewevie said:
S-OFF tells you that the security is switched off on your phone, so that you will be able to flash unsigned ROMs (e.g. custom ROMs).
It does not mean that you are rooted, often people get the terminology wrong here.
If you have S-OFF then you may be able to root (i.e. get root/superuser permissions) on your current ROM, or flash a different ROM (either a pre-rooted custom ROM) or a different ROM where you can use an exploit to get root.
See the Wiki for a lot more details.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Thanks for clarifying, guilty as charged
Been so long since I've run a stock ROM that I forgot what it's like not to have superuser/root, lol.
sebas81 said:
i just cleared all my data from recovery and cant flash custom roms :'( does that mean i have to flash pc10img.zip?
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What problem are you having exactly, and what are you trying to flash ? We need more details in order to try and help you
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tun4f1sh said:
Thanks for clarifying, guilty as charged
Been so long since I've run a stock ROM that I forgot what it's like not to have superuser/root, lol.
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No worries man
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
sebas81 said:
and my hboot is 0.82.0008? what does that mean?
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To answer this bit, that's a stock hboot version, not the eng hboot (development/engineering hboot). So if you have S-OFF with that hboot then that's a good thing, you must have true radio S-OFF, and not the old "fake" S-OFF that was more risky. So you should be in good shape.
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S-Off / Partition Ext SD Etc

Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve
would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?
Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.
Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.
That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink
Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?
It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
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Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help

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