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At present time, I use Calligrapher for writing, but becaused I missed a dpad, I created one with Calligrapher.
But it is a little bit too small.
I would like a bigger one, like from the standard Keyboard size with five keys: up, down, lift, right, enter in one line.
A light one should be great.
Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479464 (fingerkeyboard
modified the skin as the attached picture
AEButton -> OK key :
single press = "spswitch FingerKeyb"
double press = "spswitch Full QWERTY"
attached is the zip with the skin and sipswitch
jpl69 said:
Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479464 (fingerkeyboard
modified the skin as the attached picture
AEButton -> OK key :
single press = "spswitch FingerKeyb"
double press = "spswitch Full QWERTY"
attached is the zip with the skin and sipswitch
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which one is the ok button? also what's c and v? Can we change the arrow layout go that it's more like a dpad?
sna said:
which one is the ok button?
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also what's c and v?
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c-Copy v-Paste (use it a lot).
Thanks. Now I have to create my own skin.
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thanks to jpl69 and creators of Fingerkeyb.
This is the best solution I've found so far to the lack of d-pad for Blackstone. Thank you! Most of my programs are now touch swiping anyway, but there's a few remaining *essential* apps which simply need the d-pad.
I'm using Rozenthal's FingerKeyboard, I'm mapping jpl69's spswitch file to double/triple press for ok key in AEBplus, and I'm using thierryb's skin.
The only problem is, that it takes ages for it to change sips and load it....what we really need is a standalone exe, not a sip dll that messes with your sips like this. Then we can map the exe it to hw button and it will just appear there at the bottom of screen.
So essentially I'm still hanging out for vijay555's mentioned d-pad app.
For me it takes roughly 1 sec to swith to it (except the first time)
I use htcextfun to switch from Calligrapher when my stylus is out to my dpad when my stylus is in.
Thanks for the skin for Fingerkeyb, but just a quick question. I normally use the dpad to navigate around Opera, but the problem is the SIP won't appear unless I'm entering text. Is there a way to make the SIP appear via hardware button?
how do you configure AE Button Plus to :
single press = "spswitch FingerKeyb"
double press = "spswitch Full QWERTY"
thierryb said:
At present time, I use Calligrapher for writing, but becaused I missed a dpad, I created one with Calligrapher.
But it is a little bit too small.
I would like a bigger one, like from the standard Keyboard size with five keys: up, down, lift, right, enter in one line.
A light one should be great.
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which one is the skin?
The request was in post one.
And the solution in post six.
If you read the post six you will find the solution and the way to do it.
how can I install the skin? thanks.
What have you already done or tried?
I put the skin file in the skins folder, and nothing. Then i erase the folder and create a new one whit the skin file in it, and nothing again...
this is exactly what you have to do:
-install fingerkeyboard
-copy my skin.txt in the skin folder
-activate fingerkeyboard
what happens when you activate fingerkeyboard?
I have a similar problem i think. put skin.txt in the skins folder, but when i activate fingerkeyboard, the keyboard shrinks to the correct height for the buttons (as per the image you posted), but i just get the top line of letters (qwertyuiop.... etc) instead of buttons.
using the new fingerkeyboard2, does that make a difference? was this skin written for an old version?
colthekid said:
I have a similar problem i think. put skin.txt in the skins folder, but when i activate fingerkeyboard, the keyboard shrinks to the correct height for the buttons (as per the image you posted), but i just get the top line of letters (qwertyuiop.... etc) instead of buttons.
using the new fingerkeyboard2, does that make a difference? was this skin written for an old version?
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uninstall the old version. use the new 2.0 version. enjoy!
i am using the fkb in diamond and athena (the vga version) and on my hd. no problem at all! one of the greatest app ever posted here!
Think you misunderstood, I am using version 2.0, i've never used 1.4, so i don't have an "old" version to uninstall!! I've also tried reinstalling and resetting the phone.
same problem with both of the skins (jpl69's or thierryb's) in this thread, the keyboard size shrinks to the correct size to accomodate the buttons, but i just get either the top row of letters or the top 2 rows dependant on which skin i use!
Fingerkeyboard2 works perfectly as a normal keyboard, i just can't get the above skins to work.
Problems with getting dpad it working
Yes I am having the same problem as above. I'm only seeing a row of q w e r t y etc at the bottom at the same height as the row of navigation would be be. Everything is installed as best as I can tell.
I also am having trouble with finding a suitable button to use with AE button. I tried the phone (hard) key at the bottom left below the screen as it was the only one i thought i could do without. That didn't work. then i saw that the "ok" (green icon) button that you referred to was in the drop down list of buttons to map to link that (green). Is that what you are referring to as all the OK at the top right of the screen only closes/minimises the screen and what it did do was make my back (hard) button partially then fully close the Finger keyboard.
Can you please, please, please give more detailed instructions on what do to get it working on my touch hd. You have a such a GREAT idea but I (and maybe some others) just can't get it going without more details. Thanks in advance.
Sorry if this was mentioned before but there is a way to create a d-pad using the AE Button Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I did it using the increase and decrease volume and changed them to up and down scrolling,
Thanks
pantelis25 said:
Sorry if this was mentioned before but there is a way to create a d-pad using the AE Button Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I did it using the increase and decrease volume and changed them to up and down scrolling,
Thanks
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The reason Rhodium doesn't have a D-pad in the first place is because you are suppose to use the phone with the qwerty keyboard out most of the time.
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The reason Rhodium doesn't have a D-pad in the first place is because you are suppose to use the phone with the qwerty keyboard out most of the time.
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It doesn't have a dpad because a) they thought it didn't need one because dpads are so 2005 and b) there wasn't room for everything and reviewers are already fond of calling it a brick.
I didn't notice AEB+ using the zoom bar as a dpad, but that's the hack I'm hoping for. Maybe it can capture the zoom bar action, I'm just not sure.
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It doesn't have a dpad because a) they thought it didn't need one because dpads are so 2005 and b) there wasn't room for everything and reviewers are already fond of calling it a brick.
I didn't notice AEB+ using the zoom bar as a dpad, but that's the hack I'm hoping for. Maybe it can capture the zoom bar action, I'm just not sure.
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Just trust me on this...the reason is that the keyboard qwerty is good enough"
Think about PLEASE!!!!!
Why the hell would you buy a phone with qwerty keyboard, ctrl, arrow keys, and proper function indicators? Obviously because you rely on those.
And if you rely on those than you obviously already have a D-Pad called "Arrow Keys" and "Enter/Select Key"
Also don't you find it absolutely ****ing pointless to have a volume control keys be used as a scroll wheel when you lack a freaking "select" button?
Man what are you people thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you use up and down with volume rocker just to highlight an item and then tap on the same exact item to select it.
Why would you use a freaking volume rocker to scroll down a page when you obviously can do it better with a freaking stylus?
The same goes for the zoom bar!!! That ludicrously illogical to use zoom bar to highlight items and then having to get the stylus out to tap it. Waste of time and efficiency without a freaking "enter/select key"
Think aF***ingBout It! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why the hell would you buy a phone with qwerty keyboard, ctrl, arrow keys, and proper function indicators? Obviously because you rely on those.
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In order to type. It is entirely possible, and preferable to some to navigate without always having it open.
Now, about your caffeine intake...
fortunz said:
In order to type. It is entirely possible, and preferable to some to navigate without always having it open.
Now, about your caffeine intake...
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haha that's hilarious
DPad Desire
I just got my TP2 a few days ago, my personal desire would be a DPAD app that uses the whole keyboard, so generically pressing rowards the left of the keys is left (like Q,W,A,S,D), towards the top is up (like 4,5,6,R,T,Y) etc. etc.
Then an assignable button for select, like space bar or FN.
Anyway, it would make sense to me and be easier to use especially for games , I find the DPAD being on the bottom right a bit annoying but they've done a good job fitting it all in!
Calm the hell down! How old are you, 12? The dpad is nice when you are only holding the phone with one hand. It is nearly impossible to use it with one hand while open. If your reasons why it doesn't have a dpad were true then the last 4 generations of HTC sliders wouldn't have a dpad. It doesn't have a dpad for multiple reasons including the iPhone's lack of a dpad, how a USABLE (Touch Pro!) dpad doesn't look good, and the lack of room on the front.
Up/Down without enter is still somewhat useful if you are reading something while only holding the phone with one hand. You can always map something else to be enter, like long press on start or back. I will DEFINITELY experiment with this once AT&T releases the Touch Pro 2 since I still do use it on my TP.
If only they put a ball or sensor like tbe Samsung Epix and new Blackberries have it would have greatly increased one handed usability.
so HOW can you map different actions to the zoom slider? like scroll?!
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Calm the hell down! How old are you, 12? The dpad is nice when you are only holding the phone with one hand. It is nearly impossible to use it with one hand while open. If your reasons why it doesn't have a dpad were true then the last 4 generations of HTC sliders wouldn't have a dpad. It doesn't have a dpad for multiple reasons including the iPhone's lack of a dpad, how a USABLE (Touch Pro!) dpad doesn't look good, and the lack of room on the front.
Up/Down without enter is still somewhat useful if you are reading something while only holding the phone with one hand. You can always map something else to be enter, like long press on start or back. I will DEFINITELY experiment with this once AT&T releases the Touch Pro 2 since I still do use it on my TP.
If only they put a ball or sensor like tbe Samsung Epix and new Blackberries have it would have greatly increased one handed usability.
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He spaced the hell outta himself one time.. pissing of an employee at SE so he wouldnt give us valuable info anymore on a new phone that comes out in the end of the year
pantelis25 said:
Sorry if this was mentioned before but there is a way to create a d-pad using the AE Button Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I did it using the increase and decrease volume and changed them to up and down scrolling,
Thanks
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pantelis if you need a d-pad on a tp2.. try the acer m900.. it looks like the tp2 and has a fingerprint scanner that you can use as d-pad.. better camera with flash too.. but no tilting, ****ed up RAM, and a ****ed up KB
poetryrocksalot said:
Just trust me on this...the reason is that the keyboard qwerty is good enough"
Also don't you find it absolutely ****ing pointless to have a volume control keys be used as a scroll wheel when you lack a freaking "select" button?
Man what are you people thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you use up and down with volume rocker just to highlight an item and then tap on the same exact item to select it.
Why would you use a freaking volume rocker to scroll down a page when you obviously can do it better with a freaking stylus?
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this may be your oponion, but that's no reason for putting other people down.
personnaly i use the volume buttons as up/down. thsi works very wel if you are scrolling in your emails. if i want to clean up my mailbox i can scroll the mails and delete them with my left soft-key. ik i tap the email is opened, but i dont always want to open the mail because this is time-consuming.
So you see, for some people these functions can be very usefull.
So please have an open mind en don't think you opinion is the only one.
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xdadJeroen said:
pantelis if you need a d-pad on a tp2.. try the acer m900.. it looks like the tp2 and has a fingerprint scanner that you can use as d-pad.. better camera with flash too.. but no tilting, ****ed up RAM, and a ****ed up KB
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Ive seen the reviews. The OS is bs its generally a bs phone. Wouldnt bother with it. Although fingerprint scanner is very cool.
On topic: SCROLL WITH ZOOM BAR! Had the wheel as a scroller on my TP and i want similar on my TP2
poetryrocksalot said:
The reason Rhodium doesn't have a D-pad in the first place is because you are suppose to use the phone with the qwerty keyboard out most of the time.
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What about the Topaz? It doesn't have a QWERTY keyboard or a D-pad.
poetryrocksalot said:
Just trust me on this...the reason is that the keyboard qwerty is good enough"
Think about PLEASE!!!!!
Why the hell would you buy a phone with qwerty keyboard, ctrl, arrow keys, and proper function indicators? Obviously because you rely on those.
And if you rely on those than you obviously already have a D-Pad called "Arrow Keys" and "Enter/Select Key"
Also don't you find it absolutely ****ing pointless to have a volume control keys be used as a scroll wheel when you lack a freaking "select" button?
Man what are you people thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would you use up and down with volume rocker just to highlight an item and then tap on the same exact item to select it.
Why would you use a freaking volume rocker to scroll down a page when you obviously can do it better with a freaking stylus?
The same goes for the zoom bar!!! That ludicrously illogical to use zoom bar to highlight items and then having to get the stylus out to tap it. Waste of time and efficiency without a freaking "enter/select key"
Think aF***ingBout It! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OMG. Somebody is a grumpy-pants and got up on the wrong side of the bed.
This phone would be almost perfect if it had a scroll wheel or a D-pad. This device uses WM6.1 and this is the norm for WM6.1 (this may change with WM6.5)
I can easily envision how the use of the zoom bar or the volume buttons as a scroll wheel or d-pad replacement could work efficiently and better than the "freaking" stylus. All because you lack the vision to make it work doesn't mean that it cannot work well.
For example. The zoom bar could have five zones: up, left, select, right, & down. Just put some tape over the zoom bar with the map, and viola.
Also, what about phones like the Topaz? Where's the "freaking" arrow keys or the enter/select key?
You may be content with the phone, but others may not.
is there another keyboard that has arrows like the one on the bottom of the stock 2.2 keyboard? i like the stock keyboard in all but its not like the multitouch droid keyboard. i wish someone could put those arrows on that keyboard
Swype has a special editing keyboard, by swyping from the Swype key to the SYM key.
Alternatively, there's a keyboard called Full Keyboard in the market. It's not great for day-to-day typing, and doesn't have a horizontal mode, but it has all of the editing keys you could want (arrows, del, insert, etc.) as well as Ctrl+*letter* keys, making it great for SSH sessions in ConnectBot.
I've been using the demo of Smart Keyboard, available in the Market. You tap the number key twice and it brings up a screen with arrows, a delete key, Tab and and Enter key. Then you switch back by hitting the ABC key. The skin I'm using is the iPhone skin. It has small spaces between the keys. It works for me.
I really like SwiftKey the best. It not only guesses the words you're typing, but also the next word. Works really well, but no arrows.
I also found a useful little app that allows you to have a virtual trackball, called Virtual Trackball. It's useful for moving around when you're trying to edit text. It also allows for a virtual d-pad. It's in the Market and costs .99 Euro. I think it's worth it. The developer is very responsive and is adding more features. I used to have trouble with it going away when running a lot of apps, but the new update seems to have made it persist better. If it disappears, you just hold on the home key to bring up recent apps and turn it on again.
Hi all,
have been using this custom keypad layout for a while and now finally get around to post it...
Keyboard Allocation Modifications (touch keys unchanged):
MENU key mapped to TAB
HOME key mapped to CTRL_LEFT
SEARCH key mapped to CTRL_RIGHT
OK key (DPAD_CENTER) mapped to FORWARD_DEL (normal delete - instead of delicate (touch-)cursor-positioning, then backspace)
shift+alt+E: Euro sign (€)
shift+alt+K: < instead of (
shift+alt+L: > instead of )
shift+alt+,: ~ instead of =
shift+alt+.: ^ instead of \
shift+alt+?: | instead of / (pipe linux commands without switching to soft keyboard for that one stupid symbol!)
MIC key (+ shift/alt): mapped to [ {
www./.com key (+ shift/alt): mapped to ] }
DE layout: Z <=> Y
DE layout: [äöüß] mapped on shift+alt+[aous]
This allows proper usage of terminal, debian, tmux..
Little known fact: some useful common keyboard combinations become available when your device provides TAB & CTRL keys:
- ALT+TAB: application switcher
- CTRL + A [in text fields]: select all
- CTRL + C/X/V [in text fields]: copy/cut/paste
- CTRL + Z: unfortunately, no undo (what the fail?)
- TAB [in terminal]: shell tab completion!
- CTRL + C [in terminal]: interrupt running process
- CTRL + D [in terminal, empty command line]: exit shell
Improvement suggestions or questions, bring 'em on.
The files have to replace /system/usr/keychars/STMPE_keypad.kcm and /system/usr/keylayout/STMPE_keypad.kl respectively to be active.. Installable ZIP files in third post. :good:
nice, but you should make installable zip, like this , just change zip file.
recovery installable ZIP
ok here it comes
very great job! many thanks will test that soon
Hey Admin!!! ^^ Sorry My English Not Good
Can you Mod Volume Up = Wake Phone, Or Search = On/Off Phone?
I wana turn off Search key on the phone, too
ahem this is a great feature but I may have made an error in flashing because it'd be nice to compare the original setup! I was sold with ~ and <> etc but I kinda miss the search key believe it or not (for SMS etc it had become a habit)..
my suggestions after 20 mins.. if "Menu" key was L-Ctrl instead of tab, (flip them), you could slide your thumb from menu to A to "select all" in one motion (I even found it possible with home as L-Ctrl but not easy). Also, you could hit Alt-Tab w the same one thumbstroke!! Then, you really don't need R-Ctrl because XCV have enough space to hit with your right thumb while left thumb on Menu (now L-Ctrl). Then I can have my search key back and not lose any function
If you can share the original I can set it up this way! Oh, and also "OK" for delete is OK.. but could it be L-Ctrl + Bksp, or Shift+Bksp? OH WAIT that IS the default!! Shift+BKSP = delete!! Lucky guess
Thanks tho this is awesome!!
zWiLLX said:
I kinda miss the search key believe it or not (for SMS etc it had become a habit)..
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You are aware that there is one beneath the display on the right? & these capacitive buttons continue to work with expanded keyboard.
zWiLLX said:
my suggestions after 20 mins.. if "Menu" key was L-Ctrl instead of tab, (flip them), you could slide your thumb from menu to A to "select all" in one motion (I even found it possible with home as L-Ctrl but not easy). Also, you could hit Alt-Tab w the same one thumbstroke!!
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I might actually try swapping these.. although I already used this layout for months. But good point about CTRL+A (my tmux key) and ALT+TAB :good:
So just swap the numbers of both keys in the STMPE_keypad.kl:
Code:
key 102 CTRL_LEFT WAKE
key 139 TAB WAKE
zWiLLX said:
If you can share the original I can set it up this way! Oh, and also "OK" for delete is OK.. but could it be L-Ctrl + Bksp, or Shift+Bksp? OH WAIT that IS the default!! Shift+BKSP = delete!! Lucky guess
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well the Shift+BKSP trick doesn't work everywhere and definitely not within the terminal.
You can find the default files here:
https://github.com/buborh/android_device_samsung_i927/raw/cm-11.0/usr/keylayout/STMPE_keypad.kl
https://github.com/buborh/android_device_samsung_i927/raw/cm-11.0/usr/keychars/STMPE_keypad.kcm
did the swaps and modded the KB a bit and it's friggin fantastic!! Great tips Used the one-thumb ctrl+a today as well as the one-thumb alt-tab just by coincidence and they work great!! w 4.4.4 the phone is crazy fast(er) as well as less battery and with this mod it's friggin fantastic!! Glad I didn't commit to longer contract and went w ole cheapo glide again!! Thanks EMP!!
Got my Gemini on Saturday and just working my way around it.
Was looking at shortcuts for the Gemini Keyboard and found the documentation, however all shortcuts are a combination of a key labelled ? (magnifying glass) plus another key.
For the life of me I cannot find the key that is supposed to be the magnifying glass.
Anyone know which key this is supposed to be
Thanks in advance
larah said:
Got my Gemini on Saturday and just working my way around it.
Was looking at shortcuts for the Gemini Keyboard and found the documentation, however all shortcuts are a combination of a key labelled (magnifying glass) plus another key.
For the life of me I cannot find the key that is supposed to be the magnifying glass.
Anyone know which key this is supposed to be
Thanks in advance
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I think those docs are for generic android with a keyboard; google has been pushing putting a "search" key directly onto keyboards.
The gemini shortcuts are mostly the "Fn" key plus another, which should be labelled. e.g. on mine (UK kbd):
ESC: "back" key, or hold down for "Power"
Fn+ESC: "power"
Fn+D: Android "home" key (desktop, not to be confused with traditional editing "home" key)
Fn+A: Android "recent" key (App switcher)
Alt+Tab: App switcher (standard android binding)
Fn+C: Volume down
Fn+V: Volume up
Fn+B: Brightness down
Fn+N: Brightness up
Fn+Alt: Phone app
Fn+Del: Settings
Fn+T: Mute microphone
Fn+R: Screenshot
etc.
Hope I am not hijacking this thread, but continued question about Fn usage
How does one get all the "strange" characters from the keyboard?
By strange, I mean stuff like "{}[]`/" and similar ones.
From the keyboard looks (symbols imprinted at the bottom of the key) I assumed its a combo of Fn+symbol, but it doesn't work.
I am using US keyboard layout and set to use Gemini keyboard as input method.
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How does one get all the "strange" characters from the keyboard?
By strange, I mean stuff like "{}[]`/" and similar ones.
From the keyboard looks (symbols imprinted at the bottom of the key) I assumed its a combo of Fn+symbol, but it doesn't work.
I am using US keyboard layout and set to use Gemini keyboard as input method.
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Did you figure this out? I'm trying to find that out now too.
It is [Fn] +'/ ' to bring up the symbols keyboard and you can select them from there. {}[]℅™®©¥¢√π∆~ etc...
Function key
Veritas06 said:
Did you figure this out? I'm trying to find that out now too.
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When you use the Gemini Keyboard app to configure the Gemini US English layout there is actually one more step it seems. Once you've gone through the setup you should receive a notification to configure your keyboard. Select this and select the Gemini keyboard and you will be good to go. I ignored the notification for a while, believing it was prompting me to go through the setup process again but that was not the case.
Hope this helps.