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I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?
Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
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As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.
Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM
Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.
So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......
I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?
Anyone....really......come on....
MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.
Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF
Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.
The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.
Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.
Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
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Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.
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I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
Hi,
I partitioned sd-card with several ways but my htc desire does not see the ext2/ext3 partitions.
the configuration is that
ClockWork recovery 2.5.0.7
CyanogenMod-7 for Desire GSM V7.0.0-RC1
16 GB Class 4 Toshiba micro sdcard
latest try to partition sd card is now : 13,91 fat32 primary
1024 ext2 primary - tried also ext3
My Htc desire shows me as : sd card Total space : 13,91 GB
internal storage Total space : 148 MB
the ways that I used:
-Gparted-Live - success to partitioning
-Pmagic 5.10 - success to partitioning
-sdsplit with android terminal : - unsuccessful to partitioning
the file exist but when I try : - &su
- #/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 14350M
it says me : the file not found
-MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition - success to partitioning
-I tried also flashing ClockWork recovery to amon-ra 2.0 with unveroked 3.2 for partitioning sd card but it says me "error: failed to get root. ıs your firmware too new?" - unsuccessful
What should I do?
Please help?
Your internal memory does not charge when using a ext partition/a2sd. So how do you know it's not working.
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I have AppsToSd tool installed and it always says me "it looks like your SD card isn't partitioned correctly..."
I do not know an other way if it's working...
That tool does not use the same a2sd solution, it uses the stock froyo one. You wouldn't need that tool if you were running a rom with a2sd / a2sd+
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ok,
What should I do so?
and how can I understand it's working?
grab an app called quick system info from the market and in the basic info tab it lists a2sd storage and internal storage.
You'll know its working when you install something and the internal storage doesn't drop by the size of the app you installed.
Also if you use Rom manager from the market (after you're rooted) that can create the next partition for you. Just back up your card first since it wipes it.
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Hth!
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this may sound stupid, but it happened to me.. When you create your partitions, are you making the EXT 2/3 first? it MUST be the first partition, wether it is listed as primary or not. I had sooo many fustrations till i figured out you must make the ext2/3 first, then the fat32 or whatever else.
Besides that.. WHY do you need a2sd? if you are using the CM7-RC1.. I'd recommend you use the CM7 HBOOT as well. that gives you a 300mb data which is tons of room.. just a suggestion.
Thank you nismoau,
I see the a2sd storage and it shows me the partition size but I installed some application from sd card and still drop the internal storage size.
what should be wrong?
mikeandjaimie thank you too
I need it because I want to install more applications. So How can I install CM7 HBOOT?
thanks...
lucky3664 said:
mikeandjaimie thank you too
I need it because I want to install more applications. So How can I install CM7 HBOOT?
thanks...
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You have to go S-Off (with AlphaRev.nl 1.8) and there you can select to use the Cm7 HBOOT.
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mikeandjaimie said:
this may sound stupid, but it happened to me.. When you create your partitions, are you making the EXT 2/3 first? it MUST be the first partition, wether it is listed as primary or not. I had sooo many fustrations till i figured out you must make the ext2/3 first, then the fat32 or whatever else.
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On the contrary, fat needs to be first.
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Fat it is the first ext3 second partition
I see the a2sd storage and it shows me the partition size but I installed some application from sd card and still drop the internal storage size.
what should be wrong?
thanks...
So I s-offed a few days ago, and changed to cyanogen hboot for extra space, issue is I'm low on space again :S got the same apps install as before I changed hboot.
Got at most 25 apps installed.
Have noticed that on a fresh install 40mb is still being used of data anyways.
I am despite for space suggestions?
Trying to avoid EXT partition on my sd card
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Have a look at rootsu's new rom, it comes with instructions to use custom mtd that will give you 370mb of data.
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rootsu has a custom rom? didn't know: i'm gone check it!
thanks
ducky1979 said:
Have a look at rootsu's new rom, it comes with instructions to use custom mtd that will give you 370mb of data.
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Did you try moving apps to SD from Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications? You could also use Install Manager (there is a Lite free version and a payed one in the market) to batch move apps.
Even with Oxygen r2 HBOOT I also ran out of space. I think you are meant to manually move some apps to SD from the Applications screen, primarily the ones you don't use so much or for when loading speed isn't important.
I moved a few games to SD (some games automatically went on SD, probably because they were over 30mb?), as well as Adobe Flash and Google Maps.
Note: I don't have an ext partition anymore, Android is moving those apps to FAT32.
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
Root.
10char
ricksvill said:
Any one know if I can get my HTC Desire to use the SD card as its app memory?
I don't mean app 2 SD, i mean a way of getting the handset to see the SD card and think its the internal app memory?
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1. root it (alpharev/unrevoked)
2. s-off (revolutionary)
3. NAND backup the current ROM from recovery mode
4. flash custom HBoot based on your requirement (refer to table in alpharev.nl)
[by this you get more internal memory increased, maximum you can get
332Mb for data]
5. install custom ROM of your choice which uses different scripts to move apps
to sd (s2e, a2sd, data2ext, etc....)
6. NABD backup the newly installed custom ROM
7. partition SD card for Fat32 and EXT3 (1gb) using gparted
8. reflash it the custom rom or restore from the back
you can refer to rooting guide which is available in the xda forum, below url may also help you regarding custom roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
TVTV said:
What our sarcastic friend Terepin is trying to say is that you can't really use the SD card as an extension of your phone's internal memory without using an A2SD ROM.
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Not to be too pedantic but data2sd too. Still needs root
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Data2sd, needs root. Now I got 1gb internal storage
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Thank you all...
ricksvill said:
Thank you all...
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Root your phone mate, and then use a RoM with data2SD If you want to stay with HTC sense then I recommend Droidzones RoMs.
This one is Sense 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143456
And this one is Sense 1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
Note you will need a SD card class 4 and above, Read up about Gparted after you have Rooted your phone this will let you partition your Sd card Giving you upto 2GB internal Memory.
If your bored of HTC Sense, I recommend MIUI RoM its superb
Good luck
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
Terepin said:
Just a note: you don't need Gparted for ext partition. You can either format your entire card with CWM, or you can use free partition manager EASUS Partition Master Home to create ext3 partition and then convert it with alignement script from coolexe. It certainly saves time.
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Only down side to using recovery its max size is 512MB. EASUS dont like because its windows app, I find it best to use Gparted because its Linux witch android its self is based on.
ricksvill said:
HUummm... why is it always so hard for me?
I tried to root with un Revoked which I have used in the past but that failed because I have 2.3.3 installed.
I then went back to my Froyo RUU but that failed because of the H Boot.
Finally I rooted with http://revolutionary.io and now need to sort myself out with a ROM.
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Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
I repartitioned my sdcard using 4ExtRecovery. 1gb ext4, and128k swap. Brilliant themable recovery.
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shankly1985 said:
Just give some Roms ago mate, you dont like you can always jump to another one. if its more space you want look for RoMs with data2sd or data2ext.
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Hi everybody,
got the same problem as the person who started this thread with the memory issues. Done everything except install a custom rom, which I am about to do.
(note: currently 0n 2.3.3)
Currently have CM 7.1 downloaded on computer and going to install....BUT every instruction i see requires me to have rom manager/ clockworkmod recovery. HOWEVER, I can't install these because ''this app can't be installed in your country''. unfortunately used to this.
So does anyone by chance have any links to instructions or have instructions of how I can install this without downloading any apps, hopefully an idiot proof version.(Not worried about saving a recovery etc....phone is basically blank.)
Also would CM 7.1 be a good start?? Is there any easier rom to install that still has the apps2sd feature which is the primary point of doing all this( maybe miui).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Regards,
rkdeane
Everything you need is in the Desire Developement forum - STICKY!
You don't apps, just root (S-OFF is a good choice too) and custom recovery (like CWM, AmonRa).
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Hi,
I am running CM7 on my Desire and i can't exactly figure out why i only have about 17MB of free internal space.
When i go to App2SD is says that i have 17MB of free space of the 147MB total. I then decided to add the sizes of all the apps on my phone (the ones on movable, and the ones on phone only) and it summed to about 50MB. Even if i add some space for cache (which is clean because i checked) i am nowhere near the supposedly used 130MB.
What is occupying all this space? Anyone with any idea or same problem?
P.S: I know there are several threads with this issue ("low internal space") but in all of them the users seem to have indeed low space and are looking for a way to clear some. I can't figure out where my space went (lol) thus this thread.
Regards,
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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From your description, you are probably using Stock Hboot with
/system = 250MB
/cache = 40MB
/data = 147MB
With this kind of partition you are limited to 147MB for your apps. Take into consideration that Android's Dalvik cache is stored on the data partition, you are really going to ran out of space fast.
You need to at least change your partition table to CM7r2 found on alpharev.nl to optimize the space usage of your phone's internal memory.
/system = 145MB
/cache = 5MB
/data = 287MB
Or you could do it the easy way.. Download an app called s2e from Android market. Its for CM7 rom, it moves the apps to you're sd ext for you.
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Will this also work on Leedroid 3.0.8.2?
I'm not sure, you'd have to ask the Dev via market.
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Just did a bit more reading about it. Think its just for cyanogenmod7
Yeah i'm pretty sure it is but its probably worth asking the question.
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I am having the same issue only with my internal memory and my sd card. I know for sure I updated the radio too. So i'm clueless as well. I would use the app suggested to you because I am running cyanogen 7.1 stable but I only have 312mb of free space on it also from 2gb.
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Will this also work on Leedroid 3.0.8.2?
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Pretty sure that leedroid has either a2sd+ or data++ pre built into the rom so you wouldn't need to use s2e. Only need it for CyanogenMod because it doesn't support it as standard.
I had exactly the same problem with the low internal space on my HTC Desire. I downloaded an app called App2SD enabler. I installed this app and now it lets me move pretty much every app which couldnt be moved before to SD. You cant move like systems app and data from the apps but you can move the app. Eg for example Tango, which is a video calling app is 17mb. I moved it to the SD and its now only 1mb on my phone . But this only works if your phone is rooted. It worked fine for me, however some people do have problems with it so be wary. Link is below..
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.leinardi.setinstalllocation&hl=en
If you guys look at my post, you'll see that i already use App2SD to move my apps.
The problem is that if i add all the apps on my phone it gives me 50MB. And it says i only have 16 free of the 147 total.
The question is: where the hell is the rest of the space?
Have you flashed a few different ROMs? I did, and kept getting less and less free space as a result of each reflash leaving behind residual crud that normal wiping between flashes didn't remove. See here for my question, the proposed solution, and the outcome. (I've now got about 30Mb, and would have over 48MB if it weren't for Swype, Jorte, and a few other things that don't work as well from the SD card).
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Or you could do it the easy way.. Download an app called s2e from Android market. Its for CM7 rom, it moves the apps to you're sd ext for you.
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This is interesting. I'm assuming it'll move all existing installed apps?
I've CM 7.0.3 and I've also installed the DarkTremor A2SD script, but it seemed to have left all my existing apps intact.
Yeah i'm pretty sure it moves existing apps, I ran it with a bunch already installed and my storage went up I think. There is also a way to import from darktremor. Instructions are on the app page on market, there is also a link to more detailed info.
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s37h said:
If you guys look at my post, you'll see that i already use App2SD to move my apps.
The problem is that if i add all the apps on my phone it gives me 50MB. And it says i only have 16 free of the 147 total.
The question is: where the hell is the rest of the space?
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Data, settings, configurations...
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I just went back to my first recovery and then flashed back to cyanogen 7.1 and everything has been great since. Oh and cyanogen has a setting in cyanogen settings that enables app to SD. You don't have to download anything.
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jclare85 said:
Oh and cyanogen has a setting in cyanogen settings that enables app to SD. You don't have to download anything.
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That's stock a2sd and you will run out of space far quicker than if you use darktremor or s2e
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