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I need to know the best kernel i'm currently on netarchy's 4.18 i and I have seen kingkilcks but I flash his #8 cfs but it made my phone lag alot and #7 seem to run battery down, but I can't be positive cuz I didn't run it for more than an hour...basically I wanna know wut's the best kernel for battery life? or opinions at least
Running snaps 7.5 or. 6 don't recall ATM but the battery life is crazy
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Kings #9 is pretty close to the new stock kernel ...
I'm having the best luck with Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 beta on my 002 EVO. I don't even have to use SetCPU to underclock for more battery that's how nice the kernel is.
I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!
squiggie said:
I agree with cMeka
I am running Baked Snack 1.7 ROM with Kings BFS#9 kernel and the battery life is awesome.
P.S. Battery life got even better on Kings #9 after uninstalling SetCPU. SetCPU interferes with H/AVS and defeats the purpose.
Good Luck!
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okay i will but then how would I over clock the fone, or should i just not set up profiles?
Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?
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Can someone explain the difference between kernels and roms? Also do you have to wipe in order to flash new kernels the same way you would a new rom?
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Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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mkeena0305 said:
Kernels basically control the hardware. Roms not so much hardware as software(trying to be real simple for ya). Wipe cache and davlik.
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thnx that makes sense
I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.
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I've got a noob question...... Can you flash just a kernel and just use a stock rom?
I'm rooted and just using clockworkmod, at the moment.
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If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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martyzidek said:
If your rooted then yeah you can. Make sure its for sense roms first. There are sense and asop (senseless roms like cm6)
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I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?
hockeyfreak said:
I have the Sprint Lovers ROM from Universal Auto Root. My battery life SUCKS! I'm trying to find out if the Kings #9 is the one for me. Any thoughts?
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no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.
Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.
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Personally, any sense rom can drain battery, but the best i have seen is Baked Battery Kernel. Awesome battery life and it is very fast.
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wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.
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wow talk about out of date... what rom do you use it on if you still do? just curious.
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Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done
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Warm z two point two. It is getting old i suppose but its getting the job done
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oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.
I am getting good results with ziggy (calkulin rom) and suggesting to try it.
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oh not ota 3.70 based. that's probably why it works. any kernel not 15 based usually gets terrible results on 3.70 ota so i guess you found a loophole there . i did hear very good things about that kernel so glad to know it can still be applied to good work.
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Most of the time i do use Cyanogenmod instead because, everybody knows, it has a wayyyyyy better battery life. Sense needs an app freezer, like titanium backup pro, so that they dont just start up again.
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no, it isnt. none of the king kernels are. they are waaaay out of date, and it turns out, kingklick just stole most of the code from other devs. either use netarchy's newest, or ziggy's newest. thats mostly all you have for sense.
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I'm not opposed to using a different rom, I just haven't gotten in to that area yet. Where's a good place to read about "sense" and different types of roms and reasons for using particular ones? Appearance I guess is the main reason? I'm just about ready to dive of this cliff. Thanks!
Just a quick question...I'm running 3.70....and I'm currently using kernel 15.
Which kernel gives the best battery life?
Thanks.
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Just a quick question...I'm running 3.70....and I'm currently using kernel 15.
Which kernel gives the best battery life?
Thanks.
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It depends on your phone you have to try done out try some of nets.or ziggy
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Just a quick question...I'm running 3.70....and I'm currently using kernel 15.
Which kernel gives the best battery life?
Thanks.
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like nuggy said, it depends. it seems like everytime i update my rom i need a new kernel to go with it.
i personally recommend netarchy's. i used his 4.1.9.1 kernel with great results for a long time, but recently upgraded to his 4.2.1.
you can check evobenchers for a general rundown on what kernels are running at, but once again, every phone handles things differently and your results may vary.
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like nuggy said, it depends. it seems like everytime i update my rom i need a new kernel to go with it.
i personally recommend netarchy's. i used his 4.1.9.1 kernel with great results for a long time, but recently upgraded to his 4.2.1.
you can check evobenchers for a general rundown on what kernels are running at, but once again, every phone handles things differently and your results may vary.
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+1 4.1.9 was the best then I got a hwd 004 :-( I gave up my camera got 4.2.1 then 4.3 came out
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Thanks for the help...I'll check it out.
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I have an HTC Evo 4G rooted running Myn's rls 5 .
What's the best kernel to get the most out of my battery ?
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ima straight flash addict. ive flashed 95% of evo roms and kernels out there, unmatched battery life is SBC kernel #15. it honestly lasts me all day and im a heavy user but apperently it can lead to your phone blowing up ive never had that problem tho so ill keep taking the risk
Others are right. Try a few and see what works best. Try Netarchy's HAVS kernels with SBC for full battery and smartass or conservative governor (SetCPU from the market to set it easily).
SBC got a little harder to find recently, but it's out there, just not on the main netarchy page. Give the devs a little time and they'll work out the right legalese to appease the fear mongers...
I have myn rls5 as well and I use netarchy's 4.3.1 no SBC with cfs and havs (the newest beta) and have been doing okay with it. I typically have about 15%-25% at the end of an average day. It also improves the speed of myn rls5, which I like.
I gave up SBC for all my nandroid backed-up roms when everyone stopped supporting it, but I do still have SBC #15 v7 if you would like it (PM me and I'll upload it to you).
Keep in mind that a few people have claimed that it destroyed their battery, but I didn't overclock and all the data I've read on my phone tells me that everything was fine. So obviously, no one is responsible for your phone blowing up but you, lol.
I used SBC #15 v7 for about 2 and a half weeks and it was the best battery life I had. I ended every day at about 30% battery life and I'm a moderate user. When I flash to mikfroyo, I keep that kernel as the performance of the rom plus the battery life is a combo from awesomeville.
So I decided to root my evo a couple of days ago but I didnt flash any roms so Im still using the stock sense ui. Are there any good battery kernels to use with stock sense ui because Im having a hard time finding any? What do you guys suggest?
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So I decided to root my evo a couple of days ago but I didnt flash any roms so Im still using the stock sense ui. Are there any good battery kernels to use with stock sense ui because Im having a hard time finding any? What do you guys suggest?
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If I were running a sense ROM I would flash Netarchy's kernels...
netarchy or ziggy's are your main choice listed on XDA. else where on the web you can find Baked kernel and kings kernel.
i would just start with Netarchy and see how it goes.
Thanks alot guys. Ill try them out...
I'm kind of slow with this. Which file would I download if I wanted to use a kernal out of this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
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I'm kind of slow with this. Which file would I download if I wanted to use a kernal out of this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
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First make sure u read up on SBC so you are aware of any 'possible ' issues. That said I use SBC, and I would use the netarchy 4.2.2 less aggressive HAVS
i dont really suggest using a SBC kernel personally. if you decide yuo want to it depends the more aggresive the undervolt the better the battery. this can impact performance and not all phones like an aggressive undervolt kernel and can reboot more often.
I would jsut find the netarchy kernel thread itself and lookf or the latest and try the aggressive undervolt kernel. if you have performance issues (random reboots) then flash the less aggressive one.
I'm not really digging an SBC Kernal as well. You of any good kernels that aren't SBC?
SBC-HTC15
Best yet
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I'm not really digging an SBC Kernal as well. You of any good kernels that aren't SBC?
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Just look for netarchys thread... they don't have SBC
Really surprised no one sent you to MYN's warm 2.2 rom thread....great rom....lots of great kernal options....lots of mods...it truly is the king of roms for your evo...give it a try you won't be disappointed...let me know if you have any questions. Mike
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Hey guys, I'm just wondering which kernel gets better battery life in CM7. I wanna try SavagedZen but I'm hesitant about the SBC. I know there are non-SBC versions though. How do those stack up?
Also, I'm using the new Destroyer ROM by Magnus, is his stock kernel any good?
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Well i think his kernel is the stock CM kernel, I personally use the Tiamat kernel and get nice battery life.
Thanks I've heard a lot of good things about SavagesZen, so I may try that. I'm still not sure if they were referring to the SBC version or not.
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I use savagedzen cfs sbc. I love it. My phone does not agree with bfs kernels.
I get good performance and battery life
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Thanks I've heard a lot of good things about SavagesZen, so I may try that. I'm still not sure if they were referring to the SBC version or not.
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Most likely the sbc version cuz that's all they talk about now. Though when I used the kernel I had great battery life on the non-sbc with cfs and bfs versions.
What are bfs and cfs and what's the difference between the two?
I would try the SBC kernel but I'm using a third-party insurance plan, not sprint's thing, so I'm afraid to ruin the phone using SBC kernels.
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Update: OK, so I'm using savagedzen non-SBC CFS and so far my battery life seems great. does battery life vary greatly from one ROM to another if they're using the same kernel?
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well atm i am running an evo 4g with cm7 and i just switched my kernel to savaged zen and it's running great. my phone was rebooting on its own w/ the regular cm7 kernel i think its b/c i was using setcpu and people are saying it messes up cm7.
i was also wondering if anyone knew if i can use setcpu with cm7 and savaged as the kernel or if it's possible to make profiles on the cpu settings on cm7 i saw some1 post somewhere that you can but they never explained how.
Congrats on joining the kernel-flashing world, hope it treats you well.
I run CM7, and have found that SavagedZen tends to be faster than Tiamats... it just depends on your personal opinion, experiment as much as you want (just don't flash a Sense kernel on an AOSP ROM )
If you're using SavagedZen-1.0.1 CFS HAVS noSBC (the most recent SavagedZen kernel) then you don't need to use SetCPU, the HAVS (hybrid adaptive voltage scaling) and SetCPU would work against each other. HAVS works to tone down your CPU as needed and such.
To change your governor (the thing that manages your CPU), go to Settings - CyanogenMod settings - Performance - CPU settings.
Oh, and CFS stands for "Completely Fair Scheduler". It means that it doesn't let one program use up the a huge chunk of the CPU. It is good for an overall system and is supposed to have better battery life. BFS stands for "Brain F*** Scheduler. It gives the priority to foreground tasks. Think about gaming and whatever demanding programs you may use.
I use both, but the most commonly downloaded one is CFS (at least for SavagedZen)
Here's a link to explain kernels, this guy does a great job of explaining: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
twiz0r said:
I use savagedzen cfs sbc. I love it. My phone does not agree with bfs kernels.
I get good performance and battery life
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SavagedZen, hands down. No competition. My phone hates BFS kernels too....
so right now im running the savage zen bfs kernel. if i want to switch to the cfs kernel do i have to do a full wipe or just a cache and dalvik?
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so right now im running the savage zen bfs kernel. if i want to switch to the cfs kernel do i have to do a full wipe or just a cache and dalvik?
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I would recommend the Tiamat kernel personally.
Also, just make a backup, and just wipe the cache and dalvik, then flash.
teh roxxorz said:
I would recommend the Tiamat kernel personally.
Also, just make a backup, and just wipe the cache and dalvik, then flash.
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thanx for the info.
ill give the bfs and the tiamat kernel a shot. i feel like im turning into a flash whore. lol
gilbydakid said:
thanx for the info.
ill give the bfs and the tiamat kernel a shot. i feel like im turning into a flash whore. lol
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Lol naw, you're just experimenting. Trying not to get bored right now cuz I don't have my evo >>.
I've mainly used Tiamat. Running the current version right now...3.3.3 no SBC. It seems responsive and I'm getting pretty good battery life. I will have to try SavagedZen sooner or later to see how it stacks up.
BFS kernels theoretically are supposed to give you better battery life, I used the cfs sbc savage zen and it was pretty good for speed; the bfs sbc savage zen gave me the better battery life. The only thing I can say I definitely noticed about bfs/cfs is that scrolling on bfs seems to be VERY choppy compared to cfs. No matter what profile you use on bfs the scrolling was still super choppy. So to confirm this I got back on cfs and scrolling overall was smooth as butter in cfs. Just to put this out there, I recently switched to the tiamat kernel and I'm seeing about a 15% battery increase (sounds like a little but that's a big deal) lol.
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So I did as suggested...
Backup
Clear cache/data
Flash Savage
But I was under the assumption that it'd only change the kernel, not the rom? So when it booted it was a stock/default flash. I restored to my backedup rom. Did I just negate the kernel flash?
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So I did as suggested...
Backup
Clear cache/data
Flash Savage
But I was under the assumption that it'd only change the kernel, not the rom? So when it booted it was a stock/default flash. I restored to my backedup rom. Did I just negate the kernel flash?
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Lol yes you did.
twiz0r said:
I use savagedzen cfs sbc. I love it. My phone does not agree with bfs kernels.
I get good performance and battery life
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How did you get Swype to work?
LeonDuhaney said:
How did you get Swype to work?
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Swype works fine if you have beta access from the actual site. Most of the APK files of swype flying around have expired because they released another beta version not too long ago. I believe 2.29 is the latest. I could be wrong about the number.
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I flashed CM 7 a while back and love it, but as always I feel as though I'm not getting the best battery life. With moderate use I'm lucky not to have to plug it in halfway through the day.
Any good kernel recommendations for good battery life? I'm testing SavagedZen's kernel and using it's governor currently. I find it to have excellent life while the phones asleep, but it's a battery hog when I'm using the phone.
GoDm0dE has done wonders for my battery life! Your mileage may vary as all EVO's seem to be slightly different.
Im having a great exp with SZ 2.1.0. Try using the BFS version of the latest savagezen; As to me it seems the savagezen governor works best with their rom versus cm7(if that's what ur using). I personally run conservative or ondemand with a max of 1113 and 245 min. You could also try the new toast godmode kernel! Here's some general info I think you might find helpful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
I've tried a million different kernals and personally I think CM7 just still has some battery issues to work out.
What has become a frustration of mine is that I continually get different results with the same items. In other words. Some days I'll be using the same kernal and ROM release and even the same programs and my battery will disolve right before my eyes while sudden then I'll get great battery life for a day or two.
Personaly I think it has something to do with 3g and wifi issues, because I seem to have random issues with those as well . . . but I don't know enough about all this to back that up with anything more than anecdotal observation.
CM7 + Timat Kernel = EPIC WIN.
If you flash, only use version 3.3.7 or 3.3.8 as 4.0.0 is breaking some cameras.
Toastcfh's GoDm0dE Kernel gets my vote, and that's coming from Tiamat 3.3.8 with the -100mv script from Viperboy. The Godmode kernel is by FAR much smoother and has gotten me better battery life. Toastcfh works on Cyanogenmod so you know it'll run well with CM7
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CM7 + Timat Kernel = EPIC WIN.
If you flash, only use version 3.3.7 or 3.3.8 as 4.0.0 is breaking some cameras.
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I'm getting the best battery life from this combo, using 3.3.8
I just started using CM7 last week and also love it.
Image give God mode a shot n see how that works out....if not ill go back to tiamat until they fix the issue's wit the 4.0
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Im having a great exp with SZ 2.1.0. Try using the BFS version of the latest savagezen; As to me it seems the savagezen governor works best with their rom versus cm7(if that's what ur using). I personally run conservative or ondemand with a max of 1113 and 245 min. You could also try the new toast godmode kernel! Here's some general info I think you might find helpful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
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Cool link bro
cm7 -gOdMoDe-245/1113
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Tiamat 3.3.7sbc w viperboy...what kind of battery do you have?
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Not sure if this helps anyone, but running godmode at 245/1113 vs tiamat at 245/1267, performance governor on both, I benchmark much better on godmode. I know there's a lot more to consider than that but with a lower clock it surprised me how well godmode did. IIRC I got 1333 on quadrant.
Can anyone point me in the direction where I can find the original CM7 kernel to have on hand to switch back to should I so desire? I want to play with some other kernels, but I always like to have the original sitting by just in case, ya know? Currently running CM nightlys with 2.6.37.6-cyanogenmod-01504-gdc28eac [email protected] #1
Any input would be welcomed (ok, any constructive input hah)
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Can anyone point me in the direction where I can find the original CM7 kernel to have on hand to switch back to should I so desire? I want to play with some other kernels, but I always like to have the original sitting by just in case, ya know? Currently running CM nightlys with 2.6.37.6-cyanogenmod-01504-gdc28eac [email protected] #1
Any input would be welcomed (ok, any constructive input hah)
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Kernel manager app
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Tiamat has a nice kernel with the sbc added to it. I get around 16-20hrs on moderate use with it.
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I tried kernel manager, but whenever I try to DL a kernel it pauses then drops me back at the kernel selection screen. All I really want is the current CM / CM nightly kernel(s) so that I can try Tiamat or some of the others but still have a fail safe to drop back to without flashing a whole ROM...sighs
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I tried kernel manager, but whenever I try to DL a kernel it pauses then drops me back at the kernel selection screen. All I really want is the current CM / CM nightly kernel(s) so that I can try Tiamat or some of the others but still have a fail safe to drop back to without flashing a whole ROM...sighs
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Then go to tiamat website
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Then go to tiamat website
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Yeah, I have the tiamat kernel...what I cannot seem to find anywhere, XDA, CM forums, way too much google digging, is the CM kernel to fall back to if I do not like the results I get with tiamat.
To sum it up...
What I have:
Tiamat, Savage, godmode, and every other custom kernel...but CM
What I am seeking:
CM kernel in flashable form, and if kernel manager is the magical answer, can someone PM me and you can email it to me since the manager fails to work for me?
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Yeah, I have the tiamat kernel...what I cannot seem to find anywhere, XDA, CM forums, way too much google digging, is the CM kernel to fall back to if I do not like the results I get with tiamat.
To sum it up...
What I have:
Tiamat, Savage, godmode, and every other custom kernel...but CM
What I am seeking:
CM kernel in flashable form, and if kernel manager is the magical answer, can someone PM me and you can email it to me since the manager fails to work for me?
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Just reflash the rom.
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