S-off, and rooted now thanks to Revolutionary. Will finally be able to move over my Titanium Backup and everything else from the D1 I upgraded from. My question is this, is there a list of asolutely needed .APK files for the phone to operate properly? I know I can remove City ID, Twitter, Facebook, Footsteps, Kindle, VZ Navigator, VZ Tones. What else can go? I would like to get it to the bare bones but lose no functionality, especially of things I use often such as Navigation (managed to kill it on the D1 and had to restore the .APK to get it working again). I will be using Root Explorer to do this so I could rename everything for testing of the apps. Just want to do it right the first time so I can get back to REALLY enjoying the phone. Thanks for all the help.
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I rooted via unrevoked. I'd like to remove almost all of the native apps that can with my EVO. Footprints, peeps, etc...
I plan on rooting via Toast and Flashing DC3.0 next week but want to remove native apps to see if it helps with conserving the battery and increasing speed.
Are there any native apps I shouldn't remove? Ive read conflicking reports about removing GTalk.
Thanks in advanced.
It will say it deletes them, but it doesn't actually. They'll be there on reboot. If you do full root aka nand unlock, it may be able to delete them, but I haven't tried it out myself.
Best of luck with the root. It's a good decision in my opinion.
You're going to need to use toast's root+nand unlock. I can uninstall system apps with titanium backup just fine.
so if i just uninstall an app with titanium and refresh the apps go away...but do they really? i rebooted and didnt see them anymore but read that they are still there. well i would like to get rid of about half the apps that are on the kings r3 blakk rom and i think titanium is the only way to do it. should i delete in astro?
Once you uninstall them in Titanium Backup, they are gone for good. You'll notice TB shows the internal memory you freed up by deleting them.
CHUCK NORRIS MODE
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i would only freeze them with titanium, the free memory isnt really that much and your phone completely ignores them after you freeze them, so they never run in your system, and you can always put them back to work for what ever reason if you ever need too
Okay so I've done a lot of looking first. I started by using Titanium and I uninstalled my amazonmp3 and my 3g mobile hotspot garbage but I decided to do this before making a nandroid backup.
I got ROM Manager and made a back up before I did anything else but I'm still lacking these two default apps. I downloaded some stock incredible distro's and managed to find the amazonmp3.apk but I still can't find a mobile hotspot one. Does anyone know where I can find the apk? or can someone upload it for me.
Also, I'd rather not completely delete the apk's, I'd like everything to be reversible, if possible. Any recommendations on the best, easiest, and cheapest way to do this?
Droid Incredible running stock Froyo, rooted, I believe S-OFF. I used unrEVOked 3.21.
you can fing it on the skyrider rom i think.
I personally do a backup with Titanium, Mybackup pro, and nandroid before modifying anything I'm uncertain of. As for safely removing bloat, their are two ways. One is to move the files from the original directory (/system/app) to another, I personally go to the SD card which is easier to backup to my computer. The other option is to just rename the original files (leaving them in the original directory) by changing the file extension (ie change from .apk to .apk.bak). The files can be restore by moving them back to the /system/app directory or removing the modification to the file extension, respectively.
Here's a zip with the amazonmp3 apk as well as the apk and odex wifirouter files. I pulled this from the OTA 2.2 update zip.
http://www.mediafire.com/?271atc0dsksrlnc
Thanks for the upload. Yeah, I guess the wifi one's were in the Stock Froyo that I downloaded I coulda sworn it was named something else though so I overlooked it. I managed to get the Android SDK working so I can modify my root through the ADB Shell. Seemed a lot more complicated that it really is earlier. Got everything back to normal basically. Going to make a couple of back ups using ROM Manager now. Thanks for all of the help.
Since you use titanium you can just "freeze" the apps. It's just like renaming them but easier.
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So I'm not entirely sure where to start with this one. I'm running myn's roms... was on RLS3 and went to update to RLS4 the other day. Did a nandroid backup via clockwork/ROM manager. The install of the new ROM took forever (over 30 minutes) and when it finished, for whatever reason clockwork didn't restart automatically like it usually does. When I did reboot the unit, it hung forever (I actually left it plugged in and booting while I took an hour nap)... so I finally rebooted it into recovery and restored my backup.
When the backup loaded I reset the phone, and the image was very broken. Actually to be fair, the image seemed fine... except for whatever system android uses to keep track of installed apps was corrupted. Most of my apps were missing, including core google ones. The marketplace, all of my file browsing apps (astro and root explorer) and even things like live wallpapers and maps were missing.
Next, I tried several things, including doing a fresh wipe and install of a working ROM (tried both myn 2 and 3) and then tried restoring my backup again... no matter what the backup took me to this point (and yes I understand why that is... I was just hoping that the restore wasn't actually restoring some file that the ROM would put back... as unlikely as that was).
So at this point I'm over losing all my stuff to reinstall ... but I really want to keep my text messages and call history. I can't get anything installed to back them up though... since the market is missing, as well as anything like astro, etc. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for extracting the SMS/MMS and call history stuff out of the backup I have... or getting them backed up somehow when I'm loaded into my botched recovery. I still have full internet, call and SMS access... so if there were some web-based backup I could even run that (although I don't think there is). I'm at a bit of a loss... I'd really like to get the data I want backed up before I start new. At the moment I'm still using the phone as I can still get core functionality.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know. Thanks!
install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps
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install AMON recovery to do your NAND's, install SMS backup and that will save your texts, and titanium backup any apps you want saved with data. thats how i do it, oh and install app brain as well to keep track of your installed apps
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It sucked when romanger and clock work broke for me. Never again.
Clock doesn't wipe correctly. Search it.
Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.
If you flash the rom overtop of itself you want lose anything, so try that
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Thanks... appreciate the reply... although still hoping someone can point me in the right direction to get what I currently have backed up considering the half-broken state my phone is currently in... either getting it out of the backup file somehow or somehow getting stuff installed on my phone without a market or a file manager.
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So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!
Go to clockwork and down at the bottom click install alternate recovery, viola
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So oddly enough that didn't work in of itself... but it did start me in the right direction. Most of my apps were still missing, but for whatever reason reflashing the rom made Astro re-appear in my app drawer. From there I browsed to the system/app folder and was able to install MyBackup Pro over itself somehow. I ran that to backup all my user data and wiped clean. My texts and other data are restoring right now on the fresh image.
So clockwork is definitely the culprit? What's a good alternative? I got used to using that for so long, I'm not even sure what else is out there anymore.
Thanks for your help G'man!
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So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
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Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
If this were just my tablet with the one user, I wouldn't worry about it. I'd just use Titanium to back up all my stuff, then upgrade, then put everything back. But with the second user (I share my N7 with my wife), everything on her side is separate.
I've been sitting on the 4.4.3 update for weeks now (months?) but I'd like to just get it over and done with, without losing anything. We both have media files on our side and she has a bunch of games.
Also, is there any redeeming facts about multi-user? I'm tempted to just nuke and pave, then set up multi-user in Titanium Backup. That keeps all the apps and games in one \data\ folder, and separate app data's that can be hot swapped with the tap of a widget. Not all apps have to be multi-user either, but I'd love to let my wife set it up her way, and then enable multi-user on the stuff I want to use, bury the widget somewhere, switch to me when I want to use it, then put it back when I'm done. That way she should never know I've used it, like she enjoys now on her side. I'm fine with letting her pick the wallpaper. Really DGAF about that.
Just take the OTA, it won't wipe anything.
Honestly not sure about other question.
Oops... Shoulda mentioned that I'm rooted and running custom recovery. Last time it tried to OTA, it just failed. Is there a way to find and apply the OTA in TWRP? Or can I find a complete system image of 4.4.4 and just dirty flash that over?
You would have to Backup everything but here's a rooted 4.4.4 ROM with busybox installed: http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=94
sent from my nex7 flo