So, I got my DInc2 in early July.
The next week, Froyo root AND the OTA Gingerbread update were available, so I decided to root with AlphaRevX, install CWM, and play around with some ROMs, thinking I'd wait until Gingerbread OTA was rootable. I decided I liked GingerSense, and stuck with it.
Until now. I just found out that the OTA update is rootable. No problem, I think, I can just pull it down OTA, right? Nope. I got the android with exclamation point screen. Oh, duh, I tried to install it on top of GingerSense!
OK then, I'll put it back to my stock backup, then pull the OTA update.
Nope. I tried temp rooting into the stock backup, and then re-bloat-ware-ing it since I had frozen some of the crapware. NOPE!
I just want a stock Gingerbread install to rip into.
Is there a noticable difference between GingerSense and the OTA? Should I just stick with GingerSense?
TL;DR
I petition the wise overlords of XDA: I'm running an HTC Droid Incredible 2 on Verizon, rooted from stock Froyo. I have CWM installed, with a GingerSense ROM as my primary as well. I can't for the life of me figure out why the OTA update won't stick, no matter what stunts I pull.
~WRMT
Most likely because you're rooted. I think the ota doesn't work. Install RMKs debloated ROM and update your radio.
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I was under the impression that there is a stock recovery check, and no OTA will ever install over a custom recovery.
Clutch McWinner said:
I was under the impression that there is a stock recovery check, and no OTA will ever install over a custom recovery.
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Yes you are correct. The is exactly the issue that is preventing the OTA from running.
There is no difference if you install the gingersense update and also the firmware update, which updates the touch screen and radio, so just do that, if your missing the Verizon crap that's not in gingersense, download it from market and, bam, you have identical setup as ota, just with root and s off...
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i know it'll not be rooted anymore but will it break if i check for updates and update it
if you want to upgrade then yes you will loose root. it should update no matter what unless you are using a different rom or the leaked version of froyo that went out on july 31st. not to sure about the rom thing
i am using a diffrent rom
fresh evo or something
so how do i update?
well if you can update try going to settings > System Updates > Software Update
but i would definitely read around the site a little to see if it will work. It has been a while since i have flashed a custom rom before.
i know it'll not be rooted anymore but will it break if i check for updates and update it
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Why not just flash a rooted froyo rom? Unless u really wana go back to stock don't update to ota through system updates via settings. I would just flash one of the many froyo rooted roms on this site if I were you.
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Ya either that or modify the update's hboot.img to the engineering hboot..0.76...the flash the update...finally, flash Su-e-unsecured.zip
Most roms (i am pretty sure FRESH doe) block the update using the settings update. If you go to the stock rooted rom you should be able to update or if you "unroot" first you can then go to the ota update and get official 2.2.
I will say flipz just put out his fresh 3.0 froyo based rom it is working great for me with froyo while keeping root.
The last two times I have tried to install the latest update (2.2 I believe) to my EVO, it has downloaded just fine but then seems to crash when it tries to do the actual install.
What I get is a screen showing the little green android next to an oblique triangle with an exclamation point in it. Everything stops at that point.
I have previously rooted the phone (no nand though) so I could install the android wireless tether, etc. Other than that though, I have not done too much with the phone. It's been running fine, so I have no idea what may be causing the new OTA update to crash.
(I've heard there have been some problems with the update and I really do want to be able to re-root the phone after the fact, if that could be a problem..so as far as that goes I'm in no hurry.)
Still, does anyone have any idea what might cause the latest update to crash? Should I perhaps manually copy it to my SD card and try running it from there?
Thanks,
JTT
You probably have a custom recovery so you can't OTA
OP,
You trying to maintain root? Then don't flash the OTA. If you are tryign to get back to stock, then run the 2.2 RUU file. That will wipe your phone and you will get stock - and NO root.
the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
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the question is how did you root the phone?....
in the end to keep root its, apply the 1.47 ota update, install unrevoked3, unrevoked forever, install stock recovery, update to 2.2 froyo, install custom recovery, install superuser app, then BAM you are rooted on 2.2
all addressed in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752166
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Don't take the 2.2 OTA if you want to maintain root.
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never do OTA lol. i learned the hard way.. im stuck on 2.2 without root. you will lose your root if you update ota. just say no man.. just say no
android 2.2 help
so is there anyway to root 2.2 ota update i wanna root my phone!!!
Ok, so I did the root from 2.2 down to 2.1 with unrevoked, and added forever, but im still a little confused as to wether I can accept the 2.2 ota, and stay rooted, im sure I have read about it before, but I would like some real info.
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You can take the OTA and maintain root with Unrevoked forever. UF turns the security permissions off, so it does not matter what you flash you always have root access.
Although in the future I would recommend not taking anymore OTAs since they often patch these holes with each new release. It is conceivable that they could release an update to turn the security permissions back on and plug current exploits to gain root. It is always best to wait for the rooted version of an update to be released. With Froyo the rooted versions were out before the official OTA came out.
To answer your question simply, yes you can take the current OTA after Unrevoked Forever and maintain root. Furthermore, there is little risk anymore since a method to root Froyo has finally been discovered.
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Ok, well i downloaded the ota froyo, started the install, did the unpacking pic, then after that it seems to be stuck at android with a white triangle and exclamation point that is yellow, so know what, pull battery and forget that or uh what.
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Ok, well i downloaded the ota froyo, started the install, did the unpacking pic, then after that it seems to be stuck at android with a white triangle and exclamation point that is yellow, so know what, pull battery and forget that or uh what.
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probably have to do a battery pull at that point. If you are using a custom recovery, the OTA won't work. I just used the RUU to do it. Otherwise, you need to find the stock recovery image (not sure where its posted) to use the OTA. The RUU is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746705
To gain root after updating, you need to install a custom recovery. If you go to the Unrevoked Forever web page, they have some recoveries in PC36IMG.zip format. The Amon RA one didn't work for me, but ClockworkMod does flash fine. One you have the custom recovery, you need to download a rooted rom. Netarchy has a completely stock one posted around here somewhere. That's the one I used. You can also use any custom ROMs once you have the recovery. You're supposed to be able to use the fastboot method to install a custom recovery, but I didn't have success doing that (though I didn't really work with it for very long). Hope that helps.
yeah i pulled the battery, and everything went back fine, so i guess at this point just get rid of that idea, and stick to custom rom then right.
tomh1979 said:
yeah i pulled the battery, and everything went back fine, so i guess at this point just get rid of that idea, and stick to custom rom then right.
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You can, or you can download the stock rooted 2.2. Or if you want to be thorough, you can run the 2.2 RUU, then install a custom recovery image, then flash the rooted 2.2 or custom 2.2 ROM. Probably recommend the 2.2 RUU as it will update your radios for you without you having to find and flash them individually. But that's just me.
Last November I rooted my T-Mobile G2 using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965&highlight=[guide]
I also installed Clockwork Mod.
I did not install any ROM, and I'm currently running otherwise-stock Android 2.2, build 1.22.531.8. I have ROM backups from Nov. 21 and March 21.
I'd like to install the 2.3 update (I've gotten the notification, but it won't execute, obviously), and have spent the last couple of days absorbing the various un-root guides posted here and around the tubes. The best un-root method appears to depend on which method was used to root the phone.
I've downloaded the PCI10 1.19.531.1 image, the stock_root image, and the stock recovery, and looking at the best way to move forward.
Is it necessary to undo all the modifications (S-off, HBoot, Recovery) before the update will self-apply?
If so, which un-root guide would you recommend for my phone?
Also, I'm running alogcat to try to get the download link - if I get that, should I try to update using Clockwork?
Thanks in advance.
Well currently there is no sure-fire way to root the OTA 2.3 release, so if you do choose to unroot and take the OTA you won't be able to get rooted again.
If you want 2.3 and still want to be rooted, you're best off either waiting for a pre-rooted OTA build that you can just flash to and not have to mess with the actual OTA, or you can use one of the AOSP-based 2.3 ROMs in the dev section.
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Well currently there is no sure-fire way to root the OTA 2.3 release, so if you do choose to unroot and take the OTA you won't be able to get rooted again.
If you want 2.3 and still want to be rooted, you're best off either waiting for a pre-rooted OTA build that you can just flash to and not have to mess with the actual OTA, or you can use one of the AOSP-based 2.3 ROMs in the dev section.
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Thanks.
But assuming I am OK with losing root, does anyone have a recommendation for which "back to full stock" guide to use?
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Thanks.
But assuming I am OK with losing root, does anyone have a recommendation for which "back to full stock" guide to use?
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You're okay with losing root only if you're okay with losing any of the features you use that required you to root it. If you rooted in order to overclock, you won't be able to anymore; if you rooted to get rid of the bloatware, you won't be able to anymore.
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Now I'm not sure if this applies to all gingerbread otas, but you should always be able to go back again if you need to, since there's now a way to downgade and subsequently achieve root: Downgrade
OP:
I agree with martonikaj - I am doing what he suggests - just wait for someone to release a rooted version of this OTA update!
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OP:
I agree with martonikaj - I am doing what he suggests - just wait for someone to release a rooted version of this OTA update!
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Yep, there's really no reason to get ancy and waste your time unrooting just to get a manufacturer release of 2.3, when you can have completely bone stock AOSP 2.3 right now and still be rooted.
And if you want the pre-rooted OTA version, you'll be able to get that soon too.
Thanks.
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Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Have you checked Development section for the latest stock rom. Also why would you try to do an OTA after rooting. It may take away your root. Just wait it out or try a custom rom that probably has more than the stock 4.53 rom.
You rooted to get away from stock why go back when you now have options better than stock.
Rooted Stock Roms link here
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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ok but still why unroot? Just download a rooted version and if you like remove the bloatware. going back to stock you loose options and gain bloat.
Stock rooted is better than Stock non rooted....all day everyday
The issue is your custom recovery, not custom hboot. Sprint OTAs depend on the stock recovery, which in layman's terms is a "fake" recovery. It can't be used by the user but the recovery knows what to do with the OTA packages.
Look around for a PC36IMG.zip of the stock Sprint recovery.img. I saw one the other day in the Dev section.
And the latest OTA is rootable, just to clear that up.
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Oh and to answer your where does it download question...I believe in /data/tmp or /data/local/tmp, but i am not 100% sure. It believe it would be in one of the tmp folders for sure though.
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